View Full Version : M3 Evo For Grabs!!


nonamer
02-10-2008, 09:50 AM
Hi everyone!

Here's the deal - I found a 1998 M3 Evo SMG convertible on a junk yard, and fortunately I was the first one to open it's bonnet. It's beautiful - everything is still there and intact!

I must say, the car was damaged hard in to driver's side rear and a tiny bit into front, and has been sitting there on the roof of some old SUV for about three months now. So the interior is ALL gone. There are still a few electronic boxes (ABS and stuff I think) in place where the glovebox was, and quite a lot of wiring is just randomly laying everywhere. So it's mainly the Mechanical Front parts that I can remove (ECU is missing.....). Suspension - gone, except maybe for the cross bar.

OK, so I figured first things first - CAMs! I will hopefully have them tomorrow morning already.

What should I get next??? Mind you, the car is on top of another car and that's the way it WILL stay. What would you take??? I don't want to waste my money, so what's good for my 1995 E36 328is??? Most smaller things I can just pocket - FREE! Things I don't really need I can sell on eBay or here (with discount ofcourse).

So comeon, help me out! What do I take???

Cheers!

Casual Days
02-10-2008, 10:28 AM
The SMG and send it to me! :stickoutt

MarkR540
02-10-2008, 10:33 AM
ill take the engine

GG///M3
02-10-2008, 10:44 AM
the motor, and wireharness.

entropy
02-10-2008, 10:53 AM
what steering wheel does it have?

JamesM3M5
02-10-2008, 12:28 PM
OK, so I figured first things first - CAMs! I will hopefully have them tomorrow morning already.
Are you going to sell the cams? Or do you think they will fit your 328i?

nonamer
02-10-2008, 12:31 PM
OK guys, look:

I cannot have the hole engine, well at least not the part where the engine number is.

The WHOLE interior is gone and that includes the steering wheel.

Obviously I wouldn't post the SMG gearbox over to US cause that would be ridiculously expensive. But don't think I'll fit it to my car cause it looks like its not worth the hassle and money... Read my "to SMG or not to SMG" post.

nonamer
02-10-2008, 12:36 PM
Are you going to sell the cams? Or do you think they will fit your 328i?

Well, I'm hoping to fit them, if I can. Why? You want them?

patmcd
02-10-2008, 01:10 PM
Isn't the 98 evo dual vanos and your car single? Seems like it'd be rather hard to fit the cams in your car.

M///BMW
02-10-2008, 01:28 PM
How much is the complete car?

G///ME
02-10-2008, 02:55 PM
i don't see why you can't have the engine...

nonamer
02-10-2008, 03:18 PM
Here, if the car is scrapped the chassis/shell numbers and engine numbers CAN NOT be reused. This is the law. And if any numbers are found to be tempered with - you're in big shit. That's why I can NEITHER have the whole car NOR the entire engine. Ok, hopefully that's understood.

SO, what do I take??

chandlerseattle
02-10-2008, 03:47 PM
Here, if the car is scrapped the chassis/shell numbers and engine numbers CAN NOT be reused. This is the law. And if any numbers are found to be tempered with - you're in big shit. That's why I can NEITHER have the whole car NOR the entire engine. Ok, hopefully that's understood.

SO, what do I take??

That is a retarded law. What bloke came up with that shit?

DusM3
02-10-2008, 04:25 PM
I have smg system parts if anyone is interested.All going too.

nonamer
02-10-2008, 04:35 PM
That is a retarded law. What bloke came up with that shit?

Anti car crime measure, or something. Anyway - back to the topic, please.

saltshaker185
02-10-2008, 04:51 PM
how much for the intake manfold/itb's? anyone know if they will bolt up to a us spec m3?

Kaiv
02-10-2008, 05:00 PM
So you have a S50B32 sitting in front of you that you can't put in your car ? FTL
What to take then ? Uh... brakes ?

nonamer
02-10-2008, 05:10 PM
isnt it S52B32?
i cant have the whole thing but i'll try to get as many internals as i can.

i'll probably get the air intake and the throttle bodies. if i won't figure out how to fit them to my 328 i'll put them up for sale. is this mod possible on my car? worth it??

cheers

patmcd
02-10-2008, 05:42 PM
The evo motor parts generally don't fit with the regular production motors. So basically you just left with body and suspension parts if anything good is left.

You really should pull the motor and sell it to someone outside the UK.

G///ME
02-10-2008, 05:56 PM
isnt it S52B32?
i cant have the whole thing but i'll try to get as many internals as i can.

i'll probably get the air intake and the throttle bodies. if i won't figure out how to fit them to my 328 i'll put them up for sale. is this mod possible on my car? worth it??

cheers

no such thing as an S52B32...it's called the S50B32. sorry for the misunderstanding of the laws in your country. here in the states, it is not illegal to use a salvaged motor. perhaps you can wiggle around the law, export the motor and make some extra money...but there may or may not be a market for RHD motors here.

this place in the States sells euro motors...

http://store.bimmerworld.com/shared/StoreFront/default.asp?CS=bimmerworl&StoreType=BtoC&Count1=324535548&Count2=241675972&CategoryID=67&Target=products.asp

could be worth a shot.

and as far as the stuff you want to pull now...throttle bodies won't work if you have a M52B28 engine, which is what i suspect you have...the m3 evo is a S50B32 engine. the air intake might work.

JamesM3M5
02-10-2008, 08:35 PM
no such thing as an S52B32...it's called the S50B32.
Yes there is, it's in the US E36 M3 from 1996-1999 and E36/7 and E36/8 M Roadster and M Coupe up to 2000.

Nonamer, nice to know your name. Let me put it to you straight: YOUR CAR CANNOT USE ANYTHING FROM THE ENGINE OR TRANSMISSION FROM AN EVO E36 M3. You could install the transmission and convert your car to a 6-speed, but it is a lot of money and time. You will never get SMG to work in your car, since it's meant to run with an Evo E36 M3 engine, wiring harness, and engine computer, not to mention the instrument cluster, shifter mechanism, pump, plumbing, gobs of wiring, and other bits of interior trim.

The engine in your car is an M52B28. There is nothing on the S50B32 engine you can use on your car unless you wanted the oil sump and dual-pickup oil pump, or headers, or the intake air filter housing. That's it. And even if you got those parts, there would be work/extra parts involved to make it work. Cams don't fit, the head doesn't fit, the throttles don't fit, etc. Get what we're telling you?

G///ME
02-10-2008, 09:34 PM
whoops brain fart right there...i confused what this guy said with something someone else said a while ago pertaining to the motors of the E36 m3's.

Def
02-10-2008, 11:34 PM
So you can't pull the engine and sell it to someone in another country? I think you could make quite a bit doing that... but maybe not to someone in the US given how the US dollar is in the crapper and then some.

Dymecaker305
02-10-2008, 11:46 PM
i say pull on oceans eleven n steal the motor

IT WILL BE WORTH IT

nonamer
02-11-2008, 05:14 AM
WTF??
How about this then http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=910709 ???
S52 (M3 EVO) cams seems to be one of the most common mod for a 328!!

Dymecaker305
02-11-2008, 05:22 AM
WTF??
How about this then http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=910709 ???
S52 (M3 EVO) cams seems to be one of the most common mod for a 328!!

so it wouldn't be a mod for a us spec M3 ?

nonamer
02-11-2008, 05:29 AM
so it wouldn't be a mod for a us spec M3 ?

Well, I'm in England, UK so - no. Its euro S52 cams into euro M52 engine. Is there any difference?

joenationwide
02-11-2008, 02:25 PM
What about the doors? Are they aluminum? Id take those. Its not hellrot is it? :D

G///ME
02-11-2008, 04:45 PM
The engine in your car is an M52B28. There is nothing on the S50B32 engine you can use on your car unless you wanted the oil sump and dual-pickup oil pump, or headers, or the intake air filter housing. That's it. And even if you got those parts, there would be work/extra parts involved to make it work. Cams don't fit, the head doesn't fit, the throttles don't fit, etc. Get what we're telling you?

::facepalm:: for noname

S52B32 is the US engine...the M3 Evo engine, which is what you are talking about is the S50B32. Your engine in your 328i is a M52B28. The cams you want to pull are from a S50 motor, not a S52 motor. do you get it now? those cams will not work in your car.

fyi, the guy i quoted knows what he is talking about in terms of the swappability of the internals of the engine.

DusM3
02-11-2008, 04:51 PM
Has the engine got the vanos? ,if it has and it's available,PM me.

nonamer
02-11-2008, 05:07 PM
OK, so the cams are out. Together with the pulleys, brackets that hold thme in place and the vanos thingy (i think..., its the bit right in front of the engine where the cams go in, right?). I decided not to put that into my car. I just can't be bothered with all the work that's involved.

I'm in ENGLAND, UK and I thought that these would be S52 cams from the S52 engine, but I guess they are S50. Car's vin number - WBSBK92090EX66566.

I also have the coils. And hopefully by next weekend I'll have the head and gasket, the whole engine cover (I've got the cover bit that says M POWER already), and maybe the wiring harness. Its all going on sale. Anything else I manage to get will also be for sale.

I'll probably just but everything on eBay but I can consider your offers if you have any.

Cheerio!

nonamer
02-11-2008, 05:09 PM
What about the doors? Are they aluminum? Id take those. Its not hellrot is it? :D

What's hellrot (transmission...?)? and how do I know if that what this car has?

WytLytnyn
02-11-2008, 05:12 PM
Yes there is, it's in the US E36 M3 from 1996-1999 and E36/7 and E36/8 M Roadster and M Coupe up to 2000.

Nonamer, nice to know your name. Let me put it to you straight: YOUR CAR CANNOT USE ANYTHING FROM THE ENGINE OR TRANSMISSION FROM AN EVO E36 M3. You could install the transmission and convert your car to a 6-speed, but it is a lot of money and time. You will never get SMG to work in your car, since it's meant to run with an Evo E36 M3 engine, wiring harness, and engine computer, not to mention the instrument cluster, shifter mechanism, pump, plumbing, gobs of wiring, and other bits of interior trim.

The engine in your car is an M52B28. There is nothing on the S50B32 engine you can use on your car unless you wanted the oil sump and dual-pickup oil pump, or headers, or the intake air filter housing. That's it. And even if you got those parts, there would be work/extra parts involved to make it work. Cams don't fit, the head doesn't fit, the throttles don't fit, etc. Get what we're telling you? So what are you trying to say? That's there's a "chance" that it might work?:confused

j/k

nonamer
02-11-2008, 06:01 PM
What about the doors? Are they aluminum? Id take those. Its not hellrot is it? :D

The doors may be aluminum... I don't know. How do I find out? One of the doors is complete with the glass and in good condition. Another one is a bit battered but not major, so I suppose is ok.

So how do I find out for sure if it's aluminum?

TheOraclesM3
02-11-2008, 08:28 PM
are the brakes still there?? I'd be interested in them..and the strut bars if it has any....

MIMI1
02-11-2008, 08:31 PM
sell it here

nonamer
02-12-2008, 03:29 AM
are the brakes still there?? I'd be interested in them..and the strut bars if it has any....

i'll check on the brakes, but the suspension is all gone.

nonamer
02-12-2008, 09:58 AM
how do I find out for sure if the doors are aluminum?

rmndublin
02-12-2008, 10:31 AM
they are riveted together as opposed to welded if aluminium

nonamer
02-13-2008, 04:38 PM
So does anyone want the whole drivetrain??? I've got another M3 Evo for breaking!! WHOLE CAR (except the front bumper). Big sale - make me some offers!! Need money quick!

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SALE SALE SALE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FingerTight
02-13-2008, 04:54 PM
:needpics

nonamer
02-13-2008, 05:24 PM
:needpics

Keep in mind - I'm in England.
Here's a bit of this car's info:

1998 BMW M3
3.2 Petrol
Manual Gearbox
72.500 miles on the clock
Red Colour
Keys present

Damage light lowdown front into the front suspension & driver's side front wing. Car starts.

http://www.imageno.com/thumbs/20080212/z5r80kkxgekd.jpg (http://www.imageno.com/z5r80kkxgekdpic.html)

http://www.imageno.com/thumbs/20080212/g4re9qw2tnpv.jpg (http://www.imageno.com/g4re9qw2tnpvpic.html)

http://www.imageno.com/thumbs/20080212/2vhomwxkj3w5.jpg (http://www.imageno.com/2vhomwxkj3w5pic.html)

http://www.imageno.com/thumbs/20080212/hsb0t9kfbclo.jpg (http://www.imageno.com/hsb0t9kfbclopic.html)

http://www.imageno.com/thumbs/20080212/cjnizraq602t.jpg (http://www.imageno.com/cjnizraq602tpic.html)

Thank you!!

themadrussian
02-13-2008, 06:31 PM
Sent a PM.

nonamer
02-14-2008, 03:29 AM
bump

nonamer
02-14-2008, 11:22 AM
I can't believe no one wants the drivetrain.... Seriously?!......

gobuffs
02-14-2008, 11:30 AM
I can't believe no one wants the drivetrain.... Seriously?!......

Your lack of knowledge does not inspire confidence that we would get what we would agree to buy from you. If somebody were to buy the drivetrain from you, do you know ALL the parts that you would need to remove from the car?

Oh...and prices you want to get also help a sale.

Dinan S3
02-14-2008, 11:32 AM
touch the door with a magnet....aluminum is not magnetic......hellrot is a BMW color...its a shade of red

nonamer
02-14-2008, 01:05 PM
Your lack of knowledge does not inspire confidence that we would get what we would agree to buy from you. If somebody were to buy the drivetrain from you, do you know ALL the parts that you would need to remove from the car?

Oh...and prices you want to get also help a sale.

my lack of knowledge? :D well pardon me for never owning an m3... i don't think there's anything wrong with me asking questions - i'm not a mechanic. and because i'm not a mechanic obviously i will not be removing the parts myself. in my mate's garage proper technically-minded people will do that for me. all i do is shipping and make my money on the difference.

as for the prices - if you can't afford it you don't have to buy it. but if you can make me a reasonable offer - go ahead, i will consider, we're not at the dentist's office here...

cherioo

gobuffs
02-14-2008, 01:16 PM
as for the prices - if you can't afford it you don't have to buy it. but if you can make me a reasonable offer - go ahead, i will consider, we're not at the dentist's office here...

I have imported 3 3.2 motors from the UK, affording it is not in the issue. Not listing a price is against forum rules anyway.

nonamer
02-14-2008, 06:02 PM
I have imported 3 3.2 motors from the UK, affording it is not in the issue. Not listing a price is against forum rules anyway.

ok, no problem. i've had two offers so far of $7000 for the drivetrain alone, but they are not able to get the money until a few weeks from now. so thhe first one to pay will be the first one to have it.

acmitch
02-15-2008, 02:23 PM
Do you still have the heater control unit and if so is it the same as mine in the 328i coupe dual control ect. If so how much would you want for this and where are you as i am in tyne and wear and could collect if you are not to far away.

Cheers andy.