PenguinScotty
02-08-2008, 10:18 AM
Please don't flame me right away, because i know that this subject has been talked about many many times in the US-spec forum, however, i was wondering what people have to say that already have the Euro brake-rotors, but feel that they're not enough.
So, my problem is that, after about 25-30 minutes of hard driving (mountain roads, lots of braking, up and downhill etc.) my brakes start to fade really fast and quite bad.
When i bought the car, the rotors seemed fine, although they do seem pretty old, and the car has been standing for a few months. Quite a fair amount of rust buildup on the inside. The pads seem very new, lots of life left in them from just peering through the wheels. The brakefluid, i think, has been replaced at the last service, which was, erm, 20k kilometers ago or so. That being the major cause, and quite a simple problem to fix, i'll go check it out, but i'm confident that it isn't the fluid.
Now, i'm not really tracking my car hard, just the occasional mountain run and maybe, a trackday or so. Mostly street driving, so a BBK is not really necessary as of right now (Also, i'd rather do suspension first anyway).
A friend has Zimmermann crossdrilled rotors on his 95 3.0 and loves them. I forgot which pads he had, but they are street-track pads. Now, i'm not sure how Zimmermann makes their rotors, but i don't think they cast the holes while making them, so i presume that they are drilled afterwards. That's something i'm not very fond of, primarily because of the structural integrity. So i've been thinking about slotted rotors.
As far as i can tell, Power Slot are the only ones making just slotted rotors, whereas Brembo makes blanks or crossdrilles + slotted and AP makes slotted versions for their BBKs.
There is always the way of just going OEM, ofcourse. I can't really say how the standard rotors perform, because, like i said, mine are quite old by now and are starting to get grooved. Is it even worth going slotted for my needs?
Another problem i seem to have, which most likely can be related to my worn rotors/bad pads etc., is that while autobahn cruising in the rain, i step on my brakes after not using them for, somewhere around 10-15 minutes. It feels as if the brakepads are 'hydroplaning' on the pads (Sorry, no idea how else to explain it). They just don't bite, only after maybe a second or so do they get 'grip' and slow the car. Now, that's not necessarily a fun thing when you have to slow down rapidly. I"m not sure if it's the rotors again, pads or the brakes just get coated with water that can't run off properly.
Ok, i'll stop now. Too much talking already.
Thanks for looking, and have fun out there :D
So, my problem is that, after about 25-30 minutes of hard driving (mountain roads, lots of braking, up and downhill etc.) my brakes start to fade really fast and quite bad.
When i bought the car, the rotors seemed fine, although they do seem pretty old, and the car has been standing for a few months. Quite a fair amount of rust buildup on the inside. The pads seem very new, lots of life left in them from just peering through the wheels. The brakefluid, i think, has been replaced at the last service, which was, erm, 20k kilometers ago or so. That being the major cause, and quite a simple problem to fix, i'll go check it out, but i'm confident that it isn't the fluid.
Now, i'm not really tracking my car hard, just the occasional mountain run and maybe, a trackday or so. Mostly street driving, so a BBK is not really necessary as of right now (Also, i'd rather do suspension first anyway).
A friend has Zimmermann crossdrilled rotors on his 95 3.0 and loves them. I forgot which pads he had, but they are street-track pads. Now, i'm not sure how Zimmermann makes their rotors, but i don't think they cast the holes while making them, so i presume that they are drilled afterwards. That's something i'm not very fond of, primarily because of the structural integrity. So i've been thinking about slotted rotors.
As far as i can tell, Power Slot are the only ones making just slotted rotors, whereas Brembo makes blanks or crossdrilles + slotted and AP makes slotted versions for their BBKs.
There is always the way of just going OEM, ofcourse. I can't really say how the standard rotors perform, because, like i said, mine are quite old by now and are starting to get grooved. Is it even worth going slotted for my needs?
Another problem i seem to have, which most likely can be related to my worn rotors/bad pads etc., is that while autobahn cruising in the rain, i step on my brakes after not using them for, somewhere around 10-15 minutes. It feels as if the brakepads are 'hydroplaning' on the pads (Sorry, no idea how else to explain it). They just don't bite, only after maybe a second or so do they get 'grip' and slow the car. Now, that's not necessarily a fun thing when you have to slow down rapidly. I"m not sure if it's the rotors again, pads or the brakes just get coated with water that can't run off properly.
Ok, i'll stop now. Too much talking already.
Thanks for looking, and have fun out there :D