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98ATLe36
02-07-2008, 11:17 PM
So when should i expect Autocross registration to open up? Im ready this year and excited to get started!

I just registered on MotorsportReg, and I had Matt look over my car the other day to make sure I take care of any problems beforehand. Hopefully im all ready now after a trip to Geordie for some new tires and an allignment.

I want to start with just the Autocross and maybe hopefully do one of the RA driving events later in the year...

BruceH
02-07-2008, 11:56 PM
So when should i expect Autocross registration to open up? Im ready this year and excited to get started!

I just registered on MotorsportReg, and I had Matt look over my car the other day to make sure I take care of any problems beforehand. Hopefully im all ready now after a trip to Geordie for some new tires and an allignment.

I want to start with just the Autocross and maybe hopefully do one of the RA driving events later in the year...

AX registration will open later this month. When it does don't hesitate as the events are going to sell out. An email will be sent to all registered Peachtree/MSR members in advance of the registration opening.

98ATLe36
02-08-2008, 12:02 AM
AX registration will open later this month. When it does don't hesitate as the events are going to sell out. An email will be sent to all registered Peachtree/MSR members in advance of the registration opening.

Will it open for all events at one time? Same for the HPDEs?

BruceH
02-08-2008, 12:11 AM
Will it open for all events at one time? Same for the HPDEs?

We are looking at opening all of the AX at the same time. Not sure yet.

98ATLe36
02-08-2008, 05:35 PM
We are looking at opening all of the AX at the same time. Not sure yet.

Ok Thanks! hey whats the most common, or best way to tie a battery down in an E36, any suggestions anyone?

PrinceE30
02-08-2008, 05:38 PM
Metal brackets or giant zip ties :)

http://asia.vtec.net/article/2003Accord2/battery.jpg

http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/images/andyh/tiny_zoom.JPG

It's pretty easy if you aren't afraid of drills.

98ATLe36
02-08-2008, 05:47 PM
Metal brackets or giant zip ties :)

http://asia.vtec.net/article/2003Accord2/battery.jpg

http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/images/andyh/tiny_zoom.JPG

It's pretty easy if you aren't afraid of drills.

Thanks! I was under the impression giant zip ties were looked down open:confused I noticed some metal brackets in Autozone today that looked like they could work, i just didnt know if anyone else had a better suggestion...

Nemesis519
02-08-2008, 05:53 PM
AX registration will open later this month. When it does don't hesitate as the events are going to sell out. An email will be sent to all registered Peachtree/MSR members in advance of the registration opening.

Where do I go to become a member?

BruceH
02-08-2008, 06:09 PM
Where do I go to become a member?
Go here for MSR http://tinyurl.com/2kq8wj

Go here for the BMW CCA http://tinyurl.com/2kq8wj

BruceH
02-08-2008, 06:09 PM
Thanks! I was under the impression giant zip ties were looked down open:confused I noticed some metal brackets in Autozone today that looked like they could work, i just didnt know if anyone else had a better suggestion...

Zip ties will snap. Most tech inspectors will not pass them.

em09
02-08-2008, 06:36 PM
Ok Thanks! hey whats the most common, or best way to tie a battery down in an E36, any suggestions anyone?

mine is wired in. no drill required.

Matt
02-08-2008, 09:05 PM
Here's one vote for NOT opening registration for all the events at once... I just don't plan my schedule out that far ahead... :dunno

kendogg
02-08-2008, 09:23 PM
Here's one vote for NOT opening registration for all the events at once... I just don't plan my schedule out that far ahead... :dunno

Ya, it could work ok for me though if refunds will be issued if we miss an event.

Matt
02-08-2008, 09:29 PM
Who benefits from that though? Wheres the upside?

M3Bill
02-08-2008, 09:52 PM
Who benefits from that though? Wheres the upside?

Convenience for those who like to plan ahead and get locked in.

atlarchitect
02-08-2008, 10:48 PM
Convenience for those who like to plan ahead and get locked in.

Exactly. I plan to do all 6 events, so it would be nice to register for them all at once. Sounds like a great idea to me.

Doctor Wha
02-08-2008, 11:10 PM
Just looking at it from the standpoint of any given event (not just AX), something this sort of registration would do is primarily benefit the people who are more seriously interested in the events. That is, they're more likely to register, then make a point of planning their schedules around the events, as opposed to the reverse.

Matt's point is correct, however, in that people who either don't (or can't) make plans that far in advance will be more likely to find themselves left out by the time the events draw closer. This group of people is more likely to encompass the more casual attendee, who may not be inclined, for whatever reason, to attend every single event.

Now then, something one has to ask about that setup is this: How conducive is such a system to bringing more people into the activities for which they have to register? If the goal is to weed out the less serious members, that'll probably work. The hard-core folks will fill up the slots, and that'll be that.

The flip-side of that coin, however, is the question of how support for those activities can be increased with a de facto limit on how many, and possibly even who can attend? Of course, if the slots fill up, the club doesn't really need to worry about who's in them. A full list is a full list, after all.

It seems to come down to a choice between convenience for the regulars, versus leaving openings for new folks, and whether or not "growing the club" (or at least, this part of it) is still a goal.


Edit for Disclaimer: As I have no stake in the matter, this is not an endorsement of one side of the issue or the other. It's only an exploration of the possible results of either method.


.02

DW

techno550
02-09-2008, 12:22 AM
Ok Thanks! hey whats the most common, or best way to tie a battery down in an E36, any suggestions anyone?
the stock tie down points work well. :)

if you have a different battery, the threaded holes are M6 iirc. make a bracket to tie into that and you'll be good to go.

if its a stock battery, use the stock tie down bits. If you've lost them, the dealer should have them for a couple bucks.

BruceH
02-09-2008, 07:53 AM
Here's one vote for NOT opening registration for all the events at once... I just don't plan my schedule out that far ahead... :dunno
Noted and your input is appreciated.

Ya, it could work ok for me though if refunds will be issued if we miss an event.
Refunds always available as long as the cancellation is within the terms of purchase.

Who benefits from that though? Wheres the upside?

The regulars benefit.

Convenience for those who like to plan ahead and get locked in.

Like I said....

Exactly. I plan to do all 6 events, so it would be nice to register for them all at once. Sounds like a great idea to me.

Noted and your input is appreciated.

Just looking at it from the standpoint of any given event (not just AX), something this sort of registration would do is primarily benefit the people who are more seriously interested in the events. That is, they're more likely to register, then make a point of planning their schedules around the events, as opposed to the reverse.

Matt's point is correct, however, in that people who either don't (or can't) make plans that far in advance will be more likely to find themselves left out by the time the events draw closer. This group of people is more likely to encompass the more casual attendee, who may not be inclined, for whatever reason, to attend every single event.

Now then, something one has to ask about that setup is this: How conducive is such a system to bringing more people into the activities for which they have to register? If the goal is to weed out the less serious members, that'll probably work. The hard-core folks will fill up the slots, and that'll be that.

The flip-side of that coin, however, is the question of how support for those activities can be increased with a de facto limit on how many, and possibly even who can attend? Of course, if the slots fill up, the club doesn't really need to worry about who's in them. A full list is a full list, after all.

It seems to come down to a choice between convenience for the regulars, versus leaving openings for new folks, and whether or not "growing the club" (or at least, this part of it) is still a goal.

DW

I need to get Wha to ghostwrite for me as he nailed the issue. We will have capacity issues this year. We struggled with capacity last year. Some folks will not get to run. I doubt that the series will sell out in advance. If events hit their inventory limit decisions will be made about who gets in. I guarantee that members will receive precedence. If we do open registration for all events in advance non-members may not be allowed to register in advance.

I don't believe that we turned away any BMW driving member last year. We will do our best this year to accommodate everyone.

One last comment; noise enforcement will be draconian, no second chances. If you think you might be loud you probably are.

peete
02-09-2008, 07:56 AM
Here's one vote for NOT opening registration for all the events at once... I just don't plan my schedule out that far ahead... :dunno

+1 for me

+1 for my daughter

Doctor Wha
02-09-2008, 07:59 AM
I need to get Wha to ghostwrite for me as he nailed the issue.
Heh! Thanks much! :smiliecap

98ATLe36
02-09-2008, 11:42 AM
the stock tie down points work well. :)

if you have a different battery, the threaded holes are M6 iirc. make a bracket to tie into that and you'll be good to go.

if its a stock battery, use the stock tie down bits. If you've lost them, the dealer should have them for a couple bucks.

Ahh, thanks Mike, I'll look into that!

M3Bill
02-09-2008, 09:18 PM
One last comment; noise enforcement will be draconian, no second chances. If you think you might be loud you probably are.

Guess that eliminates the e30 with its new race exhaust...

:(

Doctor Wha
02-09-2008, 09:24 PM
Guess that eliminates the e30 with its new race exhaust...
Just keep the current M3 as a DE car. :alright

BruceH
02-09-2008, 09:25 PM
Guess that eliminates the e30 with its new race exhaust...

:(

Run the M3

Doctor Wha
02-09-2008, 09:34 PM
Run the M3
Too slow, Bruce! :D

BruceH
02-09-2008, 09:42 PM
Too slow, Bruce! :D

You beat me to the "submit" button.

Doctor Wha
02-09-2008, 09:49 PM
You beat me. :(
:D

Boozie D. Clown
02-09-2008, 10:58 PM
You beat me to the "submit" button.

I believe the safe word was "chocolate", yes it was "chocolate".

BruceH
02-10-2008, 09:22 AM
I believe the safe word was "chocolate", yes it was "chocolate".

Interesting that you are familiar with the concept of a "safe word".

PrinceE30
02-10-2008, 11:50 AM
I like the idea of a registration per event prior to the event but after previous events. I honestly don't see there being any hassle or to doing that. MotorsportReg takes 2 minutes to register for an event. But in the end, either way I am planning on hitting up the registration ASAP.

BruceH
02-10-2008, 12:44 PM
I like the idea of a registration per event prior to the event but after previous events. I honestly don't see there being any hassle or to doing that. MotorsportReg takes 2 minutes to register for an event. But in the end, either way I am planning on hitting up the registration ASAP.

It allows the regulars to guarantee their slot for the season. As previously discussed in this thread we are anticipitating a capacity issue. BTW Bill can fix the spelling.

kevbh
02-10-2008, 01:15 PM
For what it's worth, I cast my vote for the 'Season Pass" option.

BruceH
02-10-2008, 04:36 PM
For what it's worth, I cast my vote for the 'Season Pass" option.


Noted and nice replacement vehicle.

Boozie D. Clown
02-10-2008, 08:57 PM
Interesting that you are familiar with the concept of a "safe word".

:devillook

One vote for Bill paying for everyone's entry fee.

Doctor Wha
02-10-2008, 10:07 PM
One vote for Bill paying for everyone's entry fee.
:lol

PrinceE30
02-10-2008, 10:09 PM
It allows the regulars to guarantee their slot for the season. As previously discussed in this thread we are anticipitating a capacity issue. BTW Bill can fix the spelling.

After reconsideration, I vote for the season's pass. I take back the previous post (and all spelling issues).

BruceH
02-10-2008, 10:19 PM
After reconsideration, I vote for the season's pass. I take back the previous post (and all spelling issues).

It was my spelling, not yours.

M3Bill
02-11-2008, 09:36 AM
Run the M3

I really didn't enjoy autocrossing it the one time I did...

BruceH
02-11-2008, 09:40 AM
I really didn't enjoy autocrossing it the one time I did...

Too bad.

kaamacat
02-11-2008, 12:31 PM
I really didn't enjoy autocrossing it the one time I did...

Bill......I'd like to try it and offer up a second opinion. :redspot

M3Bill
02-11-2008, 01:14 PM
Bill......I'd like to try it and offer up a second opinion. :redspot

:rofl:

BAR M3
02-11-2008, 01:29 PM
Dang Kevin! You jumped yourself straight to E class! Didn't mean to scare you away from D! JK :)

kevbh
02-11-2008, 04:53 PM
Dang Kevin! You jumped yourself straight to E class! Didn't mean to scare you away from D! JK :)

This will take my humiliation to a new level when you're still faster than me. :stickoutt

Looking at the list of participants that were running in E class last year I think it's going to be tough!

BAR M3
02-11-2008, 05:16 PM
Yep, I think E should be fairly tough too. I think it usually has the most people of all the classes.

98ATLe36
02-11-2008, 08:11 PM
Im in G, im gonna be sooooo slow:embarrasm:embarrasm:embarrasm

Boozie D. Clown
02-11-2008, 08:21 PM
I stay in F again. I was amazed that a LTW flywheel didn't add any points.

BruceH
02-11-2008, 08:42 PM
I stay in F again. I was amazed that a LTW flywheel didn't add any points.

Ahh Boozie you naive man. The classification committee has yet to meet. We will need to review the LTW flywheel upgrade.

M3Bill
02-11-2008, 08:50 PM
Ahh Boozie you naive man. The classification committee has yet to meet. We will need to review the LTW flywheel upgrade.

:lol :lol :lol

Boozie D. Clown
02-11-2008, 10:18 PM
:help

atlarchitect
02-11-2008, 11:37 PM
This will take my humiliation to a new level when you're still faster than me.

Looking at the list of participants that were running in E class last year I think it's going to be tough!

With the PSS9 springs / shocks I think you'll be in F class....so it's time to do some mods and get yourself into G class before April!

DessicatorGC
02-12-2008, 10:03 AM
I'm with Matt on this one,
I understand how a season pass is good for the officers, but what about the college students et al who can't swing the cost of 6 AX's all at one time?

isn't AX the grassroots racing made for the poor man looking for his fix? :nono




oh well just my $0.02 carry on with your plans ;)

BruceH
02-12-2008, 11:37 AM
I'm with Matt on this one,
I understand how a season pass is good for the officers, but what about the college students et al who can't swing the cost of 6 AX's all at one time?

isn't AX the grassroots racing made for the poor man looking for his fix? :nono

oh well just my $0.02 carry on with your plans ;)

You just pushed a button my friend.

"Good for the Officers"????? You mean the guys who work to make these events happen? The ones who give up their Saturday afternoons to setup Sunday events? The "Officers" who spent a lot of time evaluating replacement AX sites.

It doesn't benefit the "Officers" in any way. You don't have to buy a season's pass to play. Buy one event at a time. All we were trying to do was to offer a method for the regulars to secure a slot in a highly attended series.

Take a hike.

MGRMLN
02-12-2008, 11:52 AM
G class unlimited FTMFW!

M3Bill
02-12-2008, 12:00 PM
It doesn't benefit the "Officers" in any way. You don't have to buy a season's pass to play. Buy one event at a time. All we were trying to do was to offer a method for the regulars to secure a slot in a highly attended series.



Exactly. This does not provide an advantage to anyone...especially not the officers.

Doctor Wha
02-12-2008, 12:00 PM
With all due respect, Bruce, I don't think he meant that in a derogatory way. The word "regulars" could just as easily be dropped in there, and mean the same thing. Granted, I'm not an officer, so I might not feel as piqued about it as the guys who do the heavy lifting, but he's really only making the same point that's been raised before: The people more involved with the season - be they organizers or regulars - will get a boost out of this system, versus those with more limited flexibility in their scheduling. If such a system is enacted, one has to expect some reaction from those on the short end of it.

But in any event, just looking at the post, I don't think he meant it personally. Objectively, it could just be an unfortunate word choice.

.02

kevbh
02-12-2008, 12:02 PM
With the PSS9 springs / shocks I think you'll be in F class....so it's time to do some mods and get yourself into G class before April!

Oh crap, you're right. When I used the classification system, I selected shocks, but didn't notice the button for springs. It does appear that I'm "F'd" in more ways than one. :eek:

Note to self, don't piss off Bruce. :devillook

kevbh
02-12-2008, 12:15 PM
With respect to college students not being able to schedule that far in advance due to time constraints - I call BS. I know it feels like you have a lot going on, but unless you also have a career and a family (not talking about your parents and siblings), you have all the time in the world. You just don't realize it. I can understand the money issue better, but again, it's all about priorities. Beer and concerts vs. autox, make your choice. Budgeting isn't just about saving money, it's about allocating what you have to do what you're most interested in.

Or simply sign up for each event as they occur.

And remember - never criticize a volunteer.

(steps off soap box)

Group hug?;)

Doctor Wha
02-12-2008, 12:19 PM
Well, out-of-state college students have a bit more of a hurdle. ;)

Oh, and one other note to Dessicator - Bruce has mentioned (earlier in this thread, actually) that priority will be given to members, and every effort will be made to accomodate those who want to get in. From my own experience, Bruce has been very willing to work with folks who have unconventional circumstances, so I would have every confidence that he would extend the same to you.

.03

BruceH
02-12-2008, 12:20 PM
With all due respect, Bruce, I don't think he meant that in a derogatory way. The word "regulars" could just as easily be dropped in there, and mean the same thing. Granted, I'm not an officer, so I might not feel as piqued about it as the guys who do the heavy lifting, but he's really only making the same point that's been raised before: The people more involved with the season - be they organizers or regulars - will get a boost out of this system, versus those with more limited flexibility in their scheduling. If such a system is enacted, one has to expect some reaction from those on the short end of it.

But in any event, just looking at the post, I don't think he meant it personally. Objectively, it could just be an unfortunate word choice.

.02

I really don't understand why this is being discussed. Buy any quantity of AX events that you want. No one gets a "boost". No one gets a discount. No one is forced to buy a package. Buy them one at a time 3 weeks in advance of each event like last year. Buy them all at once. Your choice.

One last time, there is no "boost".

The OP comments really aren't worth addressing further.

Doctor Wha
02-12-2008, 12:27 PM
I really don't understand why this is being discussed. Buy any quantity of AX events that you want. No one gets a "boost".
Again, with all due respect and diplomatic dance routines, foreknowledge and early availability of slots do present inherent advantages. Slight ones, for those who see them as such, but they are there. You actually agreed with this point earlier (http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12051798&postcount=17) in the thread (http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12053991&postcount=19). It would be difficult to say those points are any less valid now.

Please understand: No one's slagging off on you. It's simply what we both noted early on, that this is one of the results of a change in the system. :dunno



Somebody get that hug going. Preferably, a really good-looking woman. :alright

;)

BruceH
02-12-2008, 12:41 PM
Again, with all due respect and diplomatic dance routines, foreknowledge and early availability of slots do present inherent advantages. Slight ones, for those who see them as such, but they are there. You actually agreed with this point earlier (http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12051798&postcount=17) in the thread (http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12053991&postcount=19). It would be difficult to say those points are any less valid now.

Please understand: No one's slagging off on you. It's simply what we both noted early on, that this is one of the results of a change in the system. :dunno

Somebody get that hug going. Preferably, a really good-looking woman. :alright

;)

Yes an advantage/boost is given to those who wish to buy the series as one package. I would be shocked if 10% of our regulars do so. I will concede this hair spilt point.

There is no financial incentive to buy the series over buying individual events. We were merely trying to respond to two issues, a few members preferred registering all at once and the issue of being oversold.

As I said, buy one, buy them all. Wait and watch the registration list.

kendogg
02-12-2008, 02:12 PM
Yes an advantage/boost is given to those who wish to buy the series as one package. I would be shocked if 10% of our regulars do so. I will concede this hair spilt point.

There is no financial incentive to buy the series over buying individual events. We were merely trying to respond to two issues, a few members preferred registering all at once and the issue of being oversold.

As I said, buy one, buy them all. Wait and watch the registration list.

So wait, are you stating that it'll be OPTIONAL to pay for the autox's in both fashions - both pre-pay for the whole season, or before each event?? This wasn't made clear before, and I think it is where some of the confusion is coming from.

BruceH
02-12-2008, 02:14 PM
Yup. We would never want to force a season purchase. We only wanted to offer the option to those who wished to do so.

kendogg
02-12-2008, 02:17 PM
Yup. We would never want to force a season purchase. We only wanted to offer the option to those who wished to do so.


Ahhh. See, thats why everybody was up in arms ;). There won't be a problem for anybody then!!!

I was under the same impression as I believe Matt, Matt, etc. were - it was buy them all at once, or nothing.

M3Bill
02-12-2008, 02:19 PM
Ahhh. See, thats why everybody was up in arms ;). There won't be a problem for anybody then!!!

I was under the same impression as I believe Matt, Matt, etc. were - it was buy them all at once, or nothing.

Of course, if there is a huge run on season passes, it is arguably possible that there would be no spaces available afterwards...

BimmerDawg
02-12-2008, 02:30 PM
Just rechecked the points classification to see if the recent modifications to TGB resulted in a higher class and, much to my suprise, I remained in "F." Reason being, I removed the crank pulley and cold air intake, but added R-comps, resulting in 74 points, one shy of the "G" classification! So, no need to go against Florian or Minsoo! :redspot

Doctor Wha
02-12-2008, 02:42 PM
Of course, if there is a huge run on season passes, it is arguably possible that there would be no spaces available afterwards...
Right. I wasn't under the impression it'd be "all or nothing," just looking at the possibility that it could end up that way simply due to the early availability. Unintended consequences, and all that.



And now... Teh Peace B00bz: :boobies


:D

tabasco
02-12-2008, 03:17 PM
Of course, if there is a huge run on season passes, it is arguably possible that there would be no spaces available afterwards...

This adds to the excitement of the sign-up process.


Think of your auto-x registration as a legal form of gambling. You could sign up once and secure your spot in all events. But if something comes up in June that prevents you from being able to attend the Auto-x's in later months...you would be out the $$$. You could sign up one at a time and have a smaller up front $$$ obligation...but you may risk not having a spot. This trade-off could happen just before each event.


What would Bill do?

What would Bruce do?

What would Matt do?

What would Jason do?

None of their answers should matter. However, to make a truly informed decision about what YOU should do, it would help to have a better understanding of the character of these individuals.

Are they the kind of people who take financial risk...or are they more willing to risk missing out on the auto-x experience?

All in all...it should make for a very exciting season!!!


Personally, I am just thankful we have a place to auto-x!!!


Jason

BruceH
02-12-2008, 03:30 PM
This adds to the excitement of the sign-up process.


Think of your auto-x registration as a legal form of gambling. You could sign up once and secure your spot in all events. But if something comes up in June that prevents you from being able to attend the Auto-x's in later months...you would be out the $$$. You could sign up one at a time and have a smaller up front $$$ obligation...but you may risk not having a spot. This trade-off could happen just before each event.


What would Bill do?

What would Bruce do?

What would Matt do?

What would Jason do?

None of their answers should matter. However, to make a truly informed decision about what YOU should do, it would help to have a better understanding of the character of these individuals.

Are they the kind of people who take financial risk...or are they more willing to risk missing out on the auto-x experience?

All in all...it should make for a very exciting season!!!


Personally, I am just thankful we have a place to auto-x!!!


Jason

No risk involved in buying all 6 upfront. You can cancel within terms.

PrinceE30
02-12-2008, 03:43 PM
Just rechecked the points classification to see if the recent modifications to TGB resulted in a higher class and, much to my suprise, I remained in "F." Reason being, I removed the crank pulley and cold air intake, but added R-comps, resulting in 74 points, one shy of the "G" classification! So, no need to go against Florian or Minsoo! :redspot

Throwdown in F!!1!11! :evil2

DessicatorGC
02-12-2008, 03:52 PM
Im sorry Bruce et al ;);)

believe me i know the hardships of running an even similar to this, thus the reason i stepped down from as actively running events in Clemson :help

dont worry I'll be at all the events the racing gods let me make it to ;)


i agree Wha, wheres the good looking woman when we need her :devillook

BimmerDawg
02-12-2008, 04:15 PM
Throwdown in F!!1!11! :evil2

Buh-ring it, Princey. :ak

BimmerDawg
02-12-2008, 04:15 PM
Actually, I suck at teh autocrozz. I can't even make my way without getting lost. :rofl

PrinceE30
02-12-2008, 04:22 PM
Buh-ring it, Princey. :ak

Georgie and The Green Bean need a GPS (sounds like a book) :para:

Whoever has the slower time of the day owes the other a :drink1: afterwards.

:devillook

M3Bill
02-12-2008, 04:23 PM
Actually, I suck at teh autocrozz. I can't even make my way without getting lost. :rofl

Exactly. You should pick another topic to talk smack about...like hairstyles. Oh wait....maybe not...

BimmerDawg
02-12-2008, 04:26 PM
Exactly. You should pick another topic to talk smack about...like hairstyles. Oh wait....maybe not...

Okay, here goes:

Bill, have you ever been out in public in anything other than dry-cleaned khakis?

M3Bill
02-12-2008, 04:28 PM
Okay, here goes:

Bill, have you ever been out in public in anything other than dry-cleaned khakis?

Yup. I am actually wearing a suit today...and most days. And I wore dress pants to the holiday party. So there.

More importantly, have you ever been out in public in anything other than jeans?

BimmerDawg
02-12-2008, 04:30 PM
Yup. I am actually wearing a suit today...and most days. And I wore dress pants to the holiday party. So there.

More importantly, have you ever been out in public in anything other than jeans?

Actually, other than the AJC car show, no. My wife says I look too good in jeans.

Now, what does Lea think about your dress? :devillook

Doctor Wha
02-12-2008, 04:35 PM
Now, what does Lea think about your dress?
Dude, that's such BS... :rolleyes













You know none of Lea's dresses will fit Bill. :nono







:rofl

kendogg
02-12-2008, 04:35 PM
Bill's been to autox's in sweatpants, shorts, etc.

Just FYI

:wavey

Doctor Wha
02-12-2008, 04:37 PM
Bill's been to autox's in sweatpants, shorts, etc.

Just FYI
And... you noticed. :coywink






:confused








:shifty

chelley
02-12-2008, 04:45 PM
Bill's been to autox's in sweatpants, shorts, etc.

Just FYI

:wavey

Kenny <3's Bill
:luvlove

kendogg
02-12-2008, 04:46 PM
And... you noticed. :coywink






:confused








:shifty

Kenny <3's Bill
:luvlove

:sigh

Doctor Wha
02-12-2008, 04:47 PM
:rofl

M3Bill
02-12-2008, 04:50 PM
:rofl

BimmerDawg
02-12-2008, 04:51 PM
:rofl :rofl

Matt
02-12-2008, 07:35 PM
:rofl :rofl :rofl

I withdraw my objection. I will autox as much as possible regardless of when it opens for each event. :wave

BruceH
02-12-2008, 07:48 PM
:rofl :rofl :rofl

I withdraw my objection. I will autox as much as possible regardless of when it opens for each event. :wave

U started this mess by over thinking the scenario.

Matt
02-12-2008, 07:50 PM
Sorry. :( :dunno

BruceH
02-12-2008, 07:58 PM
Sorry. :( :dunno

Forgiven.

tabasco
02-12-2008, 08:25 PM
Don't you hate pants?

Matt
02-12-2008, 11:37 PM
I hope he tells us to burn our pants.

BimmerDawg
02-13-2008, 02:19 PM
I'm not wearing any pants. <3

tabasco
02-13-2008, 02:27 PM
I'm not wearing any pants. <3


:nono


Doesn't that scare the customers?

Doctor Wha
02-13-2008, 02:29 PM
No, it makes them giggle. :D

keeptheuroalive
02-13-2008, 02:40 PM
If I have the money I will try making it to a few over the summer. Where do I figure out which class I would fall in?

tabasco
02-13-2008, 02:45 PM
If I have the money I will try making it to a few over the summer. Where do I figure out which class I would fall in?


http://www.peachtreebmwcca.org/ptAX_index.asp

Go to the Autocross Entry Classification System link in there!

keeptheuroalive
02-13-2008, 02:56 PM
http://www.peachtreebmwcca.org/ptAX_index.asp

Go to the Autocross Entry Classification System link in there!
So how over my head am I going to be if I'm in F class and only done 1 autocross?

BruceH
02-13-2008, 03:51 PM
So how over my head am I going to be if I'm in F class and only done 1 autocross?

Go to have fun. You won't be competitive in any class until you have a few events under your belt. Ask for an instructor to do a ride-along or two.

Nemesis519
02-13-2008, 04:07 PM
Well I just signed up for BMW CCA and Motorsports Reg... You now have my permission to open registration :devillook

Shawn D
02-13-2008, 04:21 PM
Yay -- I see the classification is the same, so I get to go up against Mini Cooper Ss, E36s, E46s, and E90s again. :az

BruceH
02-13-2008, 05:19 PM
Yay -- I see the classification is the same, so I get to go up against Mini Cooper Ss, E36s, E46s, and E90s again. :az

Classification hasn't been dealt with for this year. Not many changes are going to happen tho. Why don't you raise the issue with a Board Member.... wait a minute.... you are a Board Member!

98ATLe36
02-13-2008, 06:56 PM
So how over my head am I going to be if I'm in F class and only done 1 autocross?

You'll do better then me in G with NO experience, i think i might take Mike up on that offer of helping me out that he made like a year ago....

Any advice from you regular guys?

Matt
02-13-2008, 07:00 PM
Don't worry about your class or how you'll do or whatever. The less seriously you take it, the more fun you have. I don't mean just come goof around, but if how much fun you have depends on the time you get... :dunno

98ATLe36
02-13-2008, 07:20 PM
Don't worry about your class or how you'll do or whatever. The less seriously you take it, the more fun you have. I don't mean just come goof around, but if how much fun you have depends on the time you get... :dunno

Oh i know, im not worried about my time at all, more worried about just sucking really bad! Should I bring a pad and paper to draw out the course to help learn it? I promise ill be the guy sitting in the middle dead still completely lost:eyecrazy

I also dont want to let my car down:lol;)

Matt
02-13-2008, 07:28 PM
We can help you learn the course. A few walkthroughs with some experienced autoxers (not me) and you'll have no trouble staying on line.

Seriously, we are not hard on n00bs. Hell, my mom may come autox with us sometime this season. :help

Doctor Wha
02-13-2008, 07:31 PM
Hell, my mom may come autox with us sometime this season.
:naughty








:rofl

Jean-Claude
02-13-2008, 07:39 PM
Anyone willing to let me co-drive their car? Lunch would be on da heezy.

BimmerDawg
02-13-2008, 07:55 PM
Oh i know, im not worried about my time at all, more worried about just sucking really bad! Should I bring a pad and paper to draw out the course to help learn it? I promise ill be the guy sitting in the middle dead still completely lost:eyecrazy

I also dont want to let my car down:lol;)

Dude, I DNF'd the first two times out.

chelley
02-13-2008, 08:39 PM
Oh i know, im not worried about my time at all, more worried about just sucking really bad!

Everyone makes mistakes out there and has some bad runs. I don't think I had one clean run last season...I may have looped the car 20 or so times. But I'll blame that on the stupid E30 suspension....or the gutted E36 that was tail happy....or the weather.

Maybe I should stick to driving my car this year... :help

Nemesis519
02-13-2008, 09:15 PM
Everyone makes mistakes out there and has some bad runs. I don't think I had one clean run last season...I may have looped the car 20 or so times. But I'll blame that on the stupid E30 suspension....or the gutted E36 that was tail happy....or the weather.

Maybe I should stick to driving my car this year... :help

7 years ago I had a 2001 WS6 Transam that had 436 rwhp, I was on a straight away and the back end wanted to be infront :embarrasm The back end started to lose traction and step out to the side a little, I stayed in the throttle trying to hold it, but ended up going in circles :alright

It was hard to live that run down :D

kendogg
02-14-2008, 01:34 AM
Anyone willing to let me co-drive their car? Lunch would be on da heezy.

Mine's open to pretty much anybody :)

Everyone makes mistakes out there and has some bad runs. I don't think I had one clean run last season...I may have looped the car 20 or so times. But I'll blame that on the stupid E30 suspension....or the gutted E36 that was tail happy....or the weather.

Maybe I should stick to driving my car this year... :help

Ya, ya - of course it was my suspension :shifty


BTW - is there going to be a car control clinic, or a test n tune this year??

PrinceE30
02-14-2008, 01:53 AM
Mine's open to pretty much anybody :)



Ya, ya - of course it was my suspension :shifty


BTW - is there going to be a car control clinic, or a test n tune this year??

I can vouch for that suspension being setup perfectly. Really balanced. What sized tires do you have on that car?

peete
02-14-2008, 05:58 AM
Yay -- I see the classification is the same, so I get to go up against Mini Cooper Ss, E36s, E46s, and E90s again. :az

Race the eta. That's an autoX sleeper.

BruceH
02-14-2008, 08:17 AM
Race the eta. That's an autoX sleeper.

Truer words have never been written......

kendogg
02-14-2008, 08:29 AM
I can vouch for that suspension being setup perfectly. Really balanced. What sized tires do you have on that car?

Just about stock size - 195/60/14 Hankook Ventus RS-2. 60% aspect ratio instead of the stock 65%, iirc (I don't think any good tires were made in a 195/65/14).


I'll be looking for these comments when I sell the car later this summer, btw :P

Shawn D
02-14-2008, 10:20 AM
Oh i know, im not worried about my time at all, more worried about just sucking really bad! Should I bring a pad and paper to draw out the course to help learn it? I promise ill be the guy sitting in the middle dead still completely lost:eyecrazy
Get there early enough to walk the course, then walk the course again, then walk the course again. Then, if you DNF due to getting lost PLEASE ASK WHERE AND WHY YOU DNFed! At one event last year, some dude in a silver E46 M3 DNFed at the exact same place on every single run and apparently didn't bother to ask anyone why he kept getting a DNF. The year before that, another guy kept DNFing because he kept blowing by a slalom and didn't bother to ask why he kept getting a DNF because he thought he was doing everything right. Those are just two examples, but it happens with regularity.

weazer6511
02-14-2008, 10:34 AM
Get there early enough to walk the course, then walk the course again, then walk the course again. Then, if you DNF due to getting lost PLEASE ASK WHERE AND WHY YOU DNFed! At one event last year, some dude in a silver E46 M3 DNFed at the exact same place on every single run and apparently didn't bother to ask anyone why he kept getting a DNF. The year before that, another guy kept DNFing because he kept blowing by a slalom and didn't bother to ask why he kept getting a DNF because he thought he was doing everything right. Those are just two examples, but it happens with regularity.

I remember that silver M3 flying towards to starting area and another car was about to pull out, pretty scary stuff.:help Please learn the course

e9nine
02-14-2008, 10:34 AM
Dude, I DNF'd the first two times out.
....and then got really faster in the other 4 runs consecutively. :buttrock

For the n00bs. Do the novice walk with Jim. Please DO NOT be ashamed to ask any questions. When you do go for a ride along (Which I would encourage before your first run) make sure to to always be looking ahead and paying attention. Repeat the same when you get in your car.

Take full advantage of your first two runs to be comfortable with the layout.

I have no problem giving rides during my 1st 2 or 3 runs. I think most of the regulars here have ridden with me at some point or I have ridden in their cars to help with navigating the layout.

A lot of many others do the same as well, all you have to do is ask. :)

You will easily spot me with an ear to ear grin throughout the day rocking the baddest tan in the BMWCCA camp :cool

BruceH
02-14-2008, 10:52 AM
I have no problem giving rides during my 1st 2 or 3 runs. I think most of the regulars here have ridden with me at some point or I have ridden in their cars to help with navigating the layout.

A lot of many others do the same as well, all you have to do is ask. :)
l

Most are happy to give a ride on the first or second run. After that it might become an imposition. Don't be offended if you get turned down.

peete
02-14-2008, 11:22 AM
....and then got really faster in the other 4 runs consecutively. :buttrock

For the n00bs. Do the novice walk with Jim. Please DO NOT be ashamed to ask any questions. When you do go for a ride along (Which I would encourage before your first run) make sure to to always be looking ahead and paying attention. Repeat the same when you get in your car.

Take full advantage of your first two runs to be comfortable with the layout.

I have no problem giving rides during my 1st 2 or 3 runs. I think most of the regulars here have ridden with me at some point or I have ridden in their cars to help with navigating the layout.

A lot of many others do the same as well, all you have to do is ask. :)

You will easily spot me with an ear to ear grin throughout the day rocking the baddest tan in the BMWCCA camp :cool

I followed these exact instructions and it works. Do the novice course walk at every event. Jim's monologue is priceless. If you follow the lines he describes, not only will you not get lost but you will get your times down quicker.
And definitely track down the well tanned gentleman in the E30 for a ride and ask him to ride with. Eric offers very good advice. Thanks bro, I'll be hitting you up again this year.

98ATLe36
02-14-2008, 07:25 PM
Anyone willing to let me co-drive their car? Lunch would be on da heezy.

Ive got a second car, if you dare:devillook Shes a big girl though:D

PrinceE30
02-14-2008, 07:55 PM
Ive got a second car, if you dare:devillook Shes a big girl though:D

I've always wanted to auto-cross a 7er with a few friends aboard. I vote for a fun run driven by me in the 7er :buttrock

98ATLe36
02-14-2008, 08:24 PM
I've always wanted to auto-cross a 7er with a few friends aboard. I vote for a fun run driven by me in the 7er :buttrock

I can only imagine.... door handles being ripped off, shoe marks all over the seats....

sounds like fun:buttrock

kevbh
02-14-2008, 08:37 PM
Please note that when Jim gives the tour and keeps saying "What you have here is really a short straight-away", that it's only true if you are driving a Caterham. For the rest of us, it's actually a slalom! :D

Boozie D. Clown
02-14-2008, 08:51 PM
You'll do better then me in G with NO experience, i think i might take Mike up on that offer of helping me out that he made like a year ago....

Any advice from you regular guys?

I didn't do bad my first time out at the end of last year! I was in F. It doesn't matter what class you're in. You're going to have a f'ing blast. I can't wait. I'll be in some super secret class no one has ever thought of before, but I know I'll have fun anyway...:redspot

THANKS AGAIN TO EVERYONE THAT PUTS THEIR OWN TIME AND ENERGY INTO MAKING THE BMWCCA AX'S HAPPEN!! I love you guys as much as two men can love two guys without it getting weird in a weird kinda wierd way....not that there's anything weird about that.

Boozie D. Clown
02-14-2008, 09:04 PM
I didn't do bad my first time out at the end of last year! I was in F. It doesn't matter what class you're in. You're going to have a f'ing blast. I can't wait. I'll be in some super secret class no one has ever thought of before, but I know I'll have fun anyway...:redspot

THANKS AGAIN TO EVERYONE THAT PUTS THEIR OWN TIME AND ENERGY INTO MAKING THE BMWCCA AX'S HAPPEN!! I love you guys as much as two men can love two guys without it getting weird in a weird kinda wierd way....not that there's anything weird about that.

(This is more for the people that are interested but a little hesitant in signing up) Let me just add, it doesn't matter what class you're in. It is all about making you a better driver and learning about your in a safe environment. There are drivers in B, C, D and E that are going to kick my arse in F (assuming I am still in F after mods). I couldn't care less. No one will have as much fun as YOU.

peete
02-14-2008, 11:27 PM
Please note that when Jim gives the tour and keeps saying "What you have here is really a short straight-away", that it's only true if you are driving a Caterham. For the rest of us, it's actually a slalom! :D

:rofl:

Jean-Claude
02-15-2008, 12:18 AM
Let some guys with experience ride with you. They will guide you in the right direction.

tabasco
02-15-2008, 07:22 AM
I'll be in some super secret class no one has ever thought of before, but I know I'll have fun anyway...:redspot

Rumor has it that you will be in Double Secret P Class.


(This is more for the people that are interested but a little hesitant in signing up) Let me just add, it doesn't matter what class you're in. It is all about making you a better driver and learning about your in a safe environment. There are drivers in B, C, D and E that are going to kick my arse in F (assuming I am still in F after mods). I couldn't care less. No one will have as much fun as YOU.

very true!

Jean-Claude
02-15-2008, 10:11 AM
Does anyone have the ability to change my contact email address to my account? I've moved and my email address is different(bellsouf cut off my old one:rolleyes)

William Corcoran
william_corcoran@bellsouth.net

BruceH
02-15-2008, 10:53 AM
Does anyone have the ability to change my contact email address to my account? I've moved and my email address is different(bellsouf cut off my old one:rolleyes)

William Corcoran
william_corcoran@bellsouth.net

The MSR account? You can do that iin your profile. If it is the Peachtree email go to the club website and click "Get the news" and enter your new address.

98ATLe36
02-15-2008, 05:22 PM
Let some guys with experience ride with you. They will guide you in the right direction.

Theres a good chance my car will be a one seater:confused

techno550
02-15-2008, 06:56 PM
Theres a good chance my car will be a one seater:confused

you'll go faster with a passenger giving good instruction than you will with the reduced weight. :)

98ATLe36
02-15-2008, 07:21 PM
you'll go faster with a passenger giving good instruction than you will with the reduced weight. :)

I wish it was about weight.... its more about money:embarrasm my old passenger seat has been gone for almost a year