http://www.motorauthority.com/news/c...%80%99-debuts/ (http://www.motorauthority.com/news/c...%80%99-debuts/)

Faster than the regular cup car, slower than the RSR, built to run in the FIA GT3 championship.

Linky no worky. :(

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/coupes/porsche-911-gt3-cup-%e2%80%98s%e2%80%99-debuts/

That should work.
-Ted

Even more menacing than the last one ... only 263 needed for homologation?

Anyone have about $400K to loan me?

Correct me if I am wrong,, but was "is" the RSR "race ready" version about the same price?

What are the price comparisons for the GT3 lineup? Cup/S/RSR?

expensive/expensiver/expensivest

expensive/expensiver/expensivest
:lol:lol:lol:lol

expensive/expensiver/expensivest

Can they interest you in a spares package? :stickoutt

RSR is 425/450 I'm pretty sure. Far and away cheaper than the 635 for a Ferrari...

expensive/expensiver/expensivest


:lolhaha, we all knew that!

RSR is 425/450 I'm pretty sure. Far and away cheaper than the 635 for a Ferrari...
you would know much more than I, but in a recent Excellence the price for an RSR was quoted as $339k, plus options and destination. I'm sure your figures are much more accurate though.
no matter the price, that car is hot.
Jake

Don't know about performance, but it is far more attractive than the RSR.

OT: Why does Porsche make the RSR wider, yet run same size rubber as the Cup, BMW did the same with the E46 GTR? Wouldn't you rather have the narrow body for the obvious aero advantages...:ponder, or is it marketing so they can justify the markup?

OT: Why does Porsche make the RSR wider, yet run same size rubber as the Cup
the RSR and Cup do not have the same size tires. the Cup runs 9" and 11" whereas the RSR runs 11" and 13".
Jake

OT: Why does Porsche make the RSR wider, yet run same size rubber as the Cup, BMW did the same with the E46 GTR?

1) I'm pretty sure it DOES run wider tires.

2) There are advantages to a wider track regardless of tire width.

3) The BMW GTR ran the same size tires as compared to what narrow bodied M3?

1) I'm pretty sure it DOES run wider tires.

2) There are advantages to a wider track regardless of tire width.

3) The BMW GTR ran the same size tires as compared to what narrow bodied M3?

I was mistaken about the Porsche application.
I know track has its benefit, but is it worth the extra drag?
Any standard body E46 M3, Club, GA.....

I know track has its benefit, but is it worth the extra drag?
Any standard body E46 M3, Club, GA.....

Good question...that depends on the application. You get to run different size restrictors depending on whether you run wide fenders or not in ALMS as far as I recall. Many have suggested that Porsche should go back to the skinnier body and larger restrictor setup to gain speed while losing cornering.

As for the E46's...I don't know of any running 280 and 285 width slicks under totally stock fenders at any sort of decent ride height. The Grand-Am M3's had flares even if they weren't as obvious as the ALMS cars. There is also a limit to how low you can go with a car using the stock type flare. In ALMS, very modified suspensions allow the cars to run really low and really wide, which requires wide fenders. Additional aero rules also allow those wide fenders to be vented which isn't something allowed in Grand-Am, etc. Again, track is VERY helpful on these front strut suspensions.

Gotcha. I was just surprised to find that the GTR's ran the same size tire as for example Holder is running, but now it makes sense. I guess its all about compromise.

Good question...that depends on the application. You get to run different size restrictors depending on whether you run wide fenders or not in ALMS as far as I recall. Many have suggested that Porsche should go back to the skinnier body and larger restrictor setup to gain speed while losing cornering.

As for the E46's...I don't know of any running 280 and 285 width slicks under totally stock fenders at any sort of decent ride height. The Grand-Am M3's had flares even if they weren't as obvious as the ALMS cars. There is also a limit to how low you can go with a car using the stock type flare. In ALMS, very modified suspensions allow the cars to run really low and really wide, which requires wide fenders. Additional aero rules also allow those wide fenders to be vented which isn't something allowed in Grand-Am, etc. Again, track is VERY helpful on these front strut suspensions.

I was mistaken about the Porsche application.
I know track has its benefit, but is it worth the extra drag?
Any standard body E46 M3, Club, GA.....

Wider track reduces the lateral load transfer, it's effects are similar to lowering your CG (when cornering). The fastest Porsches (in class) that I race with have a wider turbo bodies with wider track and the same sized tires they did when they were narrow bodies. The reason lies within the rules we run, no points are added for going to a widebody or increasing track and you can't change the suspension pick-up points. Going to wider wheels is 1 point per 0.5", so it isn't worth it to go with wider tires but the increase in track improves cornering and is a free mod. Experience at the tracks and speeds we run has shown that the advantages of a wider track outweigh the disadvantages of the increased aero drag. If we ran at Lemans or Daytona it may be a different story..

All that said, I believe the CupS is running wider tires than the standard GT3 Cup though probably not as wide as the RSR.

This is all part of Porsche's plan to confuse the hell out of people with their nearly identical looking cars and naming conventions...

Gotcha. I was just surprised to find that the GTR's ran the same size tire as for example Holder is running, but now it makes sense. I guess its all about compromise.

Good point...I'm not sure exactly what size tire Holder runs.

The wide bodies also suck the hot air out from the brakes its kinda like a wing standing up vertically.