Looks cool... and weird at the same time. :confused

http://www.motorsport-total.com//bilder/2008/080122/z1201007414.jpg

http://www.f1today.nl/fotos/btvujof41.jpg

http://www.f1today.nl/fotos/im46fva04.jpg

http://www.f1today.nl/fotos/3poh9mgo14.jpg

Hi-res pic:
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/2821/p90040659bko5.jpg

They copied Lambo :shifty.

Fugly

Fugly

Function over everything else except the rulebook.

Looks way better than the vertical wings

if it is quick what do they care however it does look like a uterus

That is hideous. :confused

if it is quick what do they care however it does look like a uterus

Hold on..... are you spying for the other german automaker (ie: your employer) :shifty:devillook:shifty

I wonder what BMW would give me..

It's ugly, but hey...if it helps the car perform better I'm all for it.

Just when you thought they couldn't possibly get any uglier

Oh please thats kinda cool looking, I am sure with the $$$ in F1 if it doesnt make the car go faster around the track its not going to be on the car!

I am sure with the $$$ in F1 if it doesnt make the car go faster around the track its not going to be on the car!

Well, like, duh.

Yeah uh thanks for that!:D

I am responding to the people that think it looks ugly, WHO CARES!

Oh please thats kinda cool looking, I am sure with the $$$ in F1 if it doesnt make the car go faster around the track its not going to be on the car!

isnt that the point... going faster...

Yeah uh thanks for that!:D

I am responding to the people that think it looks ugly, WHO CARES!

Put me on the list of people who care. :wave Didn't Arrows have a wing on the front of the nose banned a few years ago? (OK I'm getting older it might have been more than a few.) If I recall it was mostly banned for being fugly. Surely this would have the same problem.

Reminds me of one those yeeeehaaawww texas trucks.

Reminds me of one those yeeeehaaawww texas trucks.

:D
Now that you put it that way I like it better, but where is the gun rack?

Function over everything else except the rulebook.


That's what the guy who designed this car said:
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p227/SRL_photo/untitled.jpg

So BMW is running those wheel covers as well.....

Ugly race car and will still be chasing Ferrari and Mclaren on the track.....:shifty

why are people still interested in this sport if the more expensive car wins and the driver pretty much doesn't have to do much except let technology take over.. thats what 'they're' saying.. lol

why are people still interested in this sport if the more expensive car wins and the driver pretty much doesn't have to do much except let technology take over.. thats what 'they're' saying.. lol
Wrong.

Put me on the list of people who care. :wave Didn't Arrows have a wing on the front of the nose banned a few years ago? (OK I'm getting older it might have been more than a few.) If I recall it was mostly banned for being fugly. Surely this would have the same problem.

Thanks Dmundy, It should, and it does, but most of the newbies' here would not know what an Arrows is anyway :stickoutt :D

why are people still interested in this sport if the more expensive car wins and the driver pretty much doesn't have to do much except let technology take over.. thats what 'they're' saying.. lol

I'm with you on too much of the races being determined by the engineers (could Alonso ever win at Super aguri?), but that doesn't mean they don't have to do much.

They do a lot more than in any other form of motorsport, IMO. It's just that they are limited in competitiveness by their machinery.

An Ex-F1 driver was telling me a few weeks ago how it's more like a job than anything; you show and drive THEIR car. The driver has very little input when it comes to setting up the car. He can ask to play with the shocks/springs a little but that's about it..

I'm with you on too much of the races being determined by the engineers (could Alonso ever win at Super aguri?), but that doesn't mean they don't have to do much.

They do a lot more than in any other form of motorsport, IMO. It's just that they are limited in competitiveness by their machinery.

Nobody could win in the Super Aguri of the moment, not now, not ever. Always has been like that in F1.

You COULD make a case for some of Nuvolari's races or for maybe Ickx in a F2 car at the ring...but those were very special circumstances:)

Unless everyone in front crashes or brakes down of course.

An Ex-F1 driver was telling me a few weeks ago how it's more like a job than anything; you show and drive THEIR car. The driver has very little input when it comes to setting up the car. He can ask to play with the shocks/springs a little but that's about it..

That's pretty badass you met an Ex-F1 driver, what his name? Also, what series do you currently race in?

yeah i was talking to Captain Kirk the other day and he said basically the same thing. He wanted to give technical input but the "know it alls" at Star Fleet wouldn't hear it.

The car looks fugly but if it wins i will change my mind.

An Ex-F1 driver was telling me a few weeks ago how it's more like a job than anything; you show and drive THEIR car. The driver has very little input when it comes to setting up the car. He can ask to play with the shocks/springs a little but that's about it..

You don't want to start this again.... believe me ;)

Ex-F1, I'm guessing Andretti?

Still ugly.

Oh well .... this means another 30 pages I guess ...

putting one on my E30 to aid the downforce

Oh well .... this means another 30 pages I guess ...


Sorry, my bad, I should have been able to resist....here, I'll go change it...

You don't want to start this again.... believe me ;)

Ex-F1, I'm guessing Andretti?

Start what?

Not Mi. Andretti, but I could ask his dad! :stickoutt

That's pretty badass you met an Ex-F1 driver, what his name? Also, what series do you currently race in?

Scott Speed, he's a friend of mine.

Right now i've just been getting back in the shifterkarts to prep for some open wheel testing later this year

Start what?



http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=825488

;)

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=825488

;)

Oh DUDE! 26 pages of nonsense?? Yea right i'm reading all of that :lol3

I stopped 2 pages in after seeing Tom Milner's name dragged through the mud by armchair racers - ridiculous. Sure some people criticize Scott but he's VERY good and I know this first hand.

Fact remains 95% of the material in this forum is garbage posted by people who wish they had a clue.

...Sure some people criticize Scott but he's VERY good and I know this first hand.


I guess that just goes to show you: "good" is relative :)

Dont mind AC. He gets apoplectic at the mention of Scott Speed and just can't help himself.

Dont mind AC.

Who??


;)

Dont mind AC. He gets apoplectic at the mention of Scott Speed and just can't help himself.

:lol
sounds like you fellas are ready for a little C&M (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWh-cDnS0k8)

I like the way the F1.08 looks.

Function over form though, so I don't care what it looks like if it performs well.

That's what the guy who designed this car said:
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p227/SRL_photo/untitled.jpg

how about the Tyrrell P34...this car was actually successful.
http://images.businessweek.com/ss/06/06/six_wheel/image/2754_06.jpg

Hey man, as long as it worked out for them...:rofl

how about the Tyrrell P34...this car was actually successful.
http://images.businessweek.com/ss/06/06/six_wheel/image/2754_06.jpg

Imagine the issues they must have had with tires on the P34? but I guess it was a different time...

love that car.

not looking great at the moment for the latest BMW, there is still time though



Heidfeld unsure about BMW's form

By Jonathan NobleWednesday, January 23rd 2008, 13:12 GMT

BMW Sauber are not where they should be with their new F1.08 and need to work hard to overcome the balance problems that have affected early testing.
That is the verdict of Nick Heidfeld who, despite feeling confident that the team can get things sorted before the Australian Grand Prix, admits that their new car has not yet delivered what he had hoped.

"Last year (at this stage) things seemed better to me," said Heidfeld during testing at Valencia in Spain. "Last year the balance was there quicker and we were more where we expected to be.

"But I cannot yet say this car is worse, because I think we know what areas we have to work on. We are quite confident that by Melbourne we will be able to be where we scheduled ourselves to be."

When asked by autosport.com to describe what the car's handling felt like, he said: "On the balance side we are not yet where we would like to be.

"We already saw that last week. We had some improvements here, and we know where we have to work. We have to get new parts on a daily basis and I think we will improve the car quite quickly to where we should be.

"There are some parts still in the wind tunnel which are not on the car yet. But even without those, we expected to have a car that had a nicer balance.

"We've made some set up changes and the aero adjustment is getting better, but it is still not where it should be."
BMW Sauber have set their sights on a maiden Formula One victory this year after finishing second in the constructors' championship last year.

I guess that just goes to show you: "good" is relative :)

Yeah the bottom half of the F1 grid really is full of terrible drivers. :rolleyes


Fact remains 95% of the material in this forum is garbage posted by people who wish they had a clue.

While I might be in the 95%, I'm pretty sure that the BMW as pictured is still ugly.
:stickoutt

While I might be in the 95%, I'm pretty sure that the BMW as pictured is still ugly.
:stickoutt

Nah, you're in the 5% of those in the know and the 100% of those of us who would jump in it if they had the chance no matter how ugly it is :D

Let's hope the appearance of those friggin' horns in not an indication of a design team in desparate search of a solution to some Honda 2007-like issue on some level.

Sure some people criticize Scott but he's VERY good and I know this first hand.

Sure he is, but at what? AC has a point (for once) :stickoutt


Fact remains 95% of the material in this forum is garbage posted by people who wish they had a clue.

Oh I'm sure they have more of a 'clue' that you credit them with. I'm sure everyone with some say here has put some track time in somewhere, albeit not at a professional level. Unless, just being Vitolos' next of kin or having friends like Scott automatically makes you the 'best' informed :rolleyes

When it comes to F1, sure, we're all armchair racers, but guess who defines the sport? :shifty

Whatever you say, Speed was a punkass in F1 irrespective of what good you've seen in him elsewhere. And that car is just plain fcuking ugly!

Let's hope the appearance of those friggin' horns in not an indication of a design team in desparate search of a solution to some Honda 2007-like issue on some level.

From the sounds of it BMW is having some issues, ugly or not : BMW F1.08 Issues (http://www.planetf1.com/story/0,18954,3213_3074516,00.html)

Reminds me of one those yeeeehaaawww texas trucks.

From what I have been hearing, BMW-Sauber is growing angry with Heidfeld. His lack of team-player mentality and general bashing of the new car in the media hasn't helped his relations within BMW-Sauber. They already have another driver lined-up to take his place, while contract loop holes are being studied. BMW's new driver is reputed to be Boss Hogg.

:stickoutt

Christopher

Actually that piece looks quite functional....it's just missing 2 rubber bands and a pouch:D

Don

http://homepage.mac.com/kconcialdi/.Public/BMW%20boss%20Hogg2.jpg

:redspot

http://homepage.mac.com/kconcialdi/.Public/BMW%20boss%20Hogg2.jpg

:redspot

NOW I like it. But where is the gun rack?

NOW I like it. But where is the gun rack?

:rofl ... too funny!!

From what I have been hearing, BMW-Sauber is growing angry with Heidfeld. His lack of team-player mentality and general bashing of the new car in the media hasn't helped his relations within BMW-Sauber. They already have another driver lined-up to take his place, while contract loop holes are being studied. BMW's new driver is reputed to be Boss Hogg.

:stickoutt

Christopher

They should have gotten Alonso :embarrasm

They should have gotten Alonso :embarrasm

Tell me about it. It wasn't due to an inability to afford him. There's always next year.

Christopher

Tell me about it. It wasn't due to an inability to afford him. There's always next year.

Christopher

Um, I could be wrong but I think you missed a small bit of sarcasm.

I still like it! I do hope they get everything settled soon though, I am a BMW racing fan and really do like Heidfeld and would not want to see them split as I see him as a longtime driver in BMW white and blue.

Um, I could be wrong but I think you missed a small bit of sarcasm.

Where? I guess I did miss it. :embarrasm

Christopher