View Full Version : Ryan James E36 M3 C-MOD BUILD
///M-COZMIC 01-22-2008, 12:07 AM Here is a run down on the build. Most or some of you has seen some part of this cars progress though I have not been on the board in some time, thought I would update.
Ground up build.
Chassis 1995 M3
Chassis fully removed of all sealer and under coating
Chassis full fresh paint electric green (inside - outside - underside, etc,.)
McMahan cage (fully gusseted - front and rear towers capped - shock tower & subframe ties in)
Custom side exit exhaust (floor boxed & bead rolled)
Euro 3.2
VAC filter housing
Custom Oil filter
Kromer Kraft headers
Full custom Burns Stainless exhaust
JB Racing Double disk clutch & flywheel package
Moton 3 - way shocks
TCK Camber Plates
Speedway torsion w/ dog leg arm(s) sway bar w/ custom mount
Brembo big brakes
SSR 18x9 Comps
Many set of Pirelli Slicks & Hoosier Race tires
Full Mono-ball suspension (control arms - tie rods - trailing arms - rear arms, etc,.)
Drop control arms & tie rods
Full solid aluminum subframe mounts front & rear
Tilton overhung triple master pedal assembly
Custom steering shaft - support and linkage
Woodward Quick release hub
Momo MOD 31 Steering wheel
Steering -seating postition & pedals brought way back
Recaro SPG Racer Seat
Euro manual rack
Custom diff w/ Factory 3.91 Motorsport gear set
Custom build BIG Fluidyne radiator
Stack Data system
Moroso 6 Rocker switch panel
BLUE SEA SYSTEMS 12 row fuse block
Full Lexan
Full MASHAW panels
I'm sure I left out some goodies, will update with a few shots
Ryan James
Iverson jr 01-22-2008, 12:14 AM you don't mess around
clopez95m3 01-22-2008, 12:37 AM Here is a run down on the build. Most or some of you has seen some part of this cars progress though I have not been on the board in some time, thought I would update.
Dude, pics!!!
-Carlos.
155///MPH 01-22-2008, 08:57 PM I was just wondering the other day what happened to this car. I remember the green paint looking amazing, can't wait to see the updates.
onasled 01-22-2008, 09:18 PM Yea, I think I remember seeing a pic you posted over a year ago? Car was lookin sweet then, if it's the one I'm thinking of.
///M-COZMIC 01-23-2008, 12:50 AM Pic set 1
Ryan James
///M-COZMIC 01-23-2008, 12:53 AM pic set 2
ryan james
///M-COZMIC 01-23-2008, 12:56 AM pic set 3
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///M-COZMIC 01-23-2008, 12:59 AM pic set 4
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Steve J. 01-23-2008, 01:00 AM Ah, so still some ways to go, but coming along very nicely.
Did you make a mount for the right side net?
jmitro 01-23-2008, 01:08 AM nice. are those steel doors or composite?
155///MPH 01-23-2008, 01:11 AM Looks great, although I do spy some cobwebs...
Can't you just run the RSN off of the dash bar?
Thanks for the pics...that is one hell of a project!
The Man 01-23-2008, 07:49 AM how much does it cost for that kind of paint job?
onasled 01-23-2008, 09:49 AM Lets talk about this, ....
I was just thinking about this in the shower this AM... Haaaaaa.... (hey, ... I wet sanded my wing in the shower last week... ;) )
Hi stress areas. Coments on this setup??? Just how are they made? Still tappered to fit where the ball joints were?
http://forums.***************************************?att achmentid=222644&stc=1&d=1201064191
Hmmmm, .... dosen't let me copy and paste pic here. It's the pic of the front controle arm and tie rod
osborni 01-23-2008, 10:20 AM I'd love so see pics of the swaybar setup.
B.Watts 01-23-2008, 10:32 AM nice. are those steel doors or composite?
MA Shaw Composite based on the little "bridge" across the window slot.
B.Watts 01-23-2008, 10:47 AM Hi stress areas. Coments on this setup??? Just how are they made? Still tappered to fit where the ball joints were?
Those appear to be RRT parts. Before going to tubular front control arms, we ran the same setup using E46 control arms. In a perfect world, you'd use a custom front subframe and a custom upright, with double shear mounts all around in order to move roll centers and adjust out bump steer (similar to what BMW did in the E30 DTM cars). In a world of budget or rules constraints, this setup proves to work quite well. This exact setup has been proven on our car, the RRT E46, and Revis' E46 World Challenge car. Very similar setups have been proven on most every E46 World Challenge car ever to run, as well as PTG's E46 M3's that ran in Grand-Am a few years ago. While it's not optimal, the forces were calculated out and adequate sphericals and hardware were chosen for a suitable safety factor. If it didn't fail on the Sebring bumps (with big slicks on our car) and the Daytona banks on PTG's M3's, it's likely not going to fail anywhere.
And to somewhat answer your question, the holes on the uprights are drilled out and the spacer has a smaller diameter upper portion that presses into the upright. The hardware passes straight through. We still run the same spacers on our tubular control arms.
osborni 01-23-2008, 12:34 PM ^^ I was wondering if a custom stud was machined from 8xxx stock or if the upright was modified to fit standard graded hardware.
fritzintn 01-23-2008, 05:20 PM Sick build.
Care to explain the odd radiator neck?
Stealthauto 01-23-2008, 05:38 PM funny ........ check out this thread posted over at "rides and stylin" today
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=919598
B.Watts 01-23-2008, 05:40 PM Did those Motons come from us?
vinnymac 01-23-2008, 06:14 PM Sick build.
Care to explain the odd radiator neck?
I've seen that radiator on a few S54 and Euro motored cars. I think that core has an integrated oil cooler built in as well. You can see some AN fittings on the lower passenger side.
M3 Muscle 01-23-2008, 07:15 PM Those appear to be RRT parts. Before going to tubular front control arms, we ran the same setup using E46 control arms. In a perfect world, you'd use a custom front subframe and a custom upright, with double shear mounts all around in order to move roll centers and adjust out bump steer (similar to what BMW did in the E30 DTM cars). In a world of budget or rules constraints, this setup proves to work quite well. This exact setup has been proven on our car, the RRT E46, and Revis' E46 World Challenge car. Very similar setups have been proven on most every E46 World Challenge car ever to run, as well as PTG's E46 M3's that ran in Grand-Am a few years ago. While it's not optimal, the forces were calculated out and adequate sphericals and hardware were chosen for a suitable safety factor. If it didn't fail on the Sebring bumps (with big slicks on our car) and the Daytona banks on PTG's M3's, it's likely not going to fail anywhere.
And to somewhat answer your question, the holes on the uprights are drilled out and the spacer has a smaller diameter upper portion that presses into the upright. The hardware passes straight through. We still run the same spacers on our tubular control arms.
Are these still available from RRT?
ALong 01-24-2008, 03:45 PM I want the same front control arm set up and swaybar, can you tell me who did it for you?
B.Watts 01-24-2008, 04:15 PM Are these still available from RRT?
I'm sure they can put together anything you need.
M3 Muscle 01-24-2008, 10:15 PM I'm sure they can put together anything you need.
I called them about 6 weeks ago and asked about my options. They said that they didn't offer much that would help me because most of their stuff is one-off now and they would need my car. Maybe I wasn't clear enough in what I wanted.
///M-COZMIC 01-24-2008, 11:13 PM The front suspension set up was from RRT, not sure what is avaiable now as I had this put together some time ago.
As for the sway bar you would be susprised how affordable it is. The bar itself is quite standard, though you have to figure out which rate would best suite your application - wall thickness - length - diameter, etc, - all based off your set up. The arms are basic as well- again determine your length and angle.
The sway bar mount can be a bit tricky. I opted to have a rigid mount welded to the frame rails.
Here is a link to get you in the right direction...
http://www.1speedway.com/Swaybars.htm
ryan james
///M-COZMIC 01-24-2008, 11:20 PM pic of the sway bar, the arms are not hooked up. the location of my mount was determined by a few factors. (notice where the factory mount still attached) If I were to make a mount in the factory location (a) the bar the would have to set under the sump pan (b) the arms would have been vertical to the attachment point, which was ill advised by speedway. I had decided to push the mount forward and have the arms come in perpendicular to the control arms and also leave clearance for a possible dry sump pump.
ryan james
M3 Muscle 01-24-2008, 11:59 PM Where did you get the front strut tower reinforcements that are welded on the top of the strut towers? The ones in the pic below.
///M-COZMIC 01-25-2008, 12:44 AM I bought factory shock tower / wheel well assy(s) and cut the towers off and formed them over the existing towers.
ryanjames
CP Louie 01-25-2008, 08:37 AM Very nice build. Well though out in many areas.
Chris
M3 Muscle 01-25-2008, 11:42 AM I bought factory shock tower / wheel well assy(s) and cut the towers off and formed them over the existing towers.
ryanjames
How hard is that to strech the metal, and how did you do it? Heat? English wheel?
osborni 01-25-2008, 12:00 PM The front suspension set up was from RRT, not sure what is avaiable now as I had this put together some time ago.
As for the sway bar you would be susprised how affordable it is. The bar itself is quite standard, though you have to figure out which rate would best suite your application - wall thickness - length - diameter, etc, - all based off your set up. The arms are basic as well- again determine your length and angle.
The sway bar mount can be a bit tricky. I opted to have a rigid mount welded to the frame rails.
Here is a link to get you in the right direction...
http://www.1speedway.com/Swaybars.htm
ryan jamesThanks for the info - I figured you had to do something to avoid the sump with a straight swaybar. Schroeder is another company that makes the same sort of products.
///M-COZMIC 01-26-2008, 12:48 AM new race car.
ryanjames
saem3 01-26-2008, 01:43 PM new race car.
ryanjames
Nice, me likey!
ALong 03-08-2008, 12:08 PM Bump for a cool car, any new updates?
Cirrus1 03-15-2008, 12:34 PM Pic set 1
Ryan James
I noticed this is does not appear to be the stock brake and clutch pedal assembly. Who makes this assembly?
PEI330Ci 03-15-2008, 10:10 PM I noticed this is does not appear to be the stock brake and clutch pedal assembly. Who makes this assembly?
Tilton overhung triple master pedal assembly
Ryan James
It's a 600 series pedal set with steel pedals.
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