OK sooooo I've been wanting projectors for the Z ever since I had my 1.9 five years ago. I stepped up to the 06 M Roady and loved the lights; now I am back with a 99 Coupe and wow... never have I taken for granted how much help it is to see the road ahead of me!

So, here I am, with one of the first rollout kits from Bavtoys for the Z3.

Sorry if some of these are kinda mehhh.

These are projectors as they come in the box, already wired up for PNP.

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Here are the first pics of the light output... Yes I have to aim them still, not 100% sure how that works as I have been too busy just getting them ON the car, but here is a good showing of what we are working with.

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Aiming not complete, but the output and cutoff are actually pretty nice... also no nasty dead spots as far as I can tell!

Here are pics of the actual lights themselves...I think they look fantastic!

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And finally, I have never seen my garage so clearly unless the sun was out!

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Overall, I am simply amazed with the quality of this product. The headlight housing is simply amazing, it practically looks OEM. The projectors are pretty good, they definately step up the lighting on these cars significantly, and the angel eyes are simply gorgeous as well.

The fact that these units are plug and play is great as well. I am by no means an electrical guru, and I got this done on my own. Granted it took me a while because I was wire managing a lot in the engine bay and finding a good spot for the ballasts, but in the end I am extremely happy with everything.

The hardest part was tapping into the parking lights so the angel eyes turn on with them, besides that, everything is just finding cables that match!!!


I would definately recommend these lights to anyone looking for an upgrade to the light output on their Z3. The prolumen 50w kit works perfectly with these projectors and I would not go a different route.

If anyone wants anymore information or specific pics feel free to ask.... tommorrow night will be all about lining up the lights and adjusting them to where they should be.

looks good.. I am glad they finally got around to getting projectors down for the Z3

Total cost of lights with CCFL AEs, Prolumen HIDs and P-n-P?

Habbie, if you're reading this. Please chime in.

Well being a "tester" it was a little different, but I did pay for these lights, don't get that wrong.

Habbie can chime in with the retail cost, I am not certain what that is exactly.

Still have to find the bug with the blinker.... but I am sure it's something simple.

so what's with the non flat "plane on the projected light pattern?
it seems like it's flat then hits a 30 degree upward angle

also do you have any pic's of the "screws/adjusters" for the lights
they are adjustable right?

thx
bill

I would definitely want stealth bulbs (light up in amber) in the corner lights.

I think I am going to switch out the corners later today... and I still havent really looked at them in daylight to see how adjust...

it was quite dark when I was doing the install, and my flashlight died :(

Yikes. The angel eyes are hideous.

Light output looks reasonably good, though.

Daylight pics please.

the angel eyes do NOT look blue like that.... I will take better pics when I am home from work...

trust me, in person its much different... I will take photos later once I figure out my stupid fast blinker issue

looks wonderful!!!! now its allabout pricing compared to the $300 ebay projectorz

Total cost of lights with CCFL AEs, Prolumen HIDs and P-n-P?

Habbie, if you're reading this. Please chime in.

long time..:)
the prices are as follows:
the basic projector with the predator chromium $399
at this point only 2 hid kit are available with these, the digital 35w and the digital high output 50w, we chose these 2 kits for the relativly low heat they generate relative to their output.
the 35 w version with a lifetime warranty will add $235 to the price.
the 50w kit with a one year warranty will add $255.

as for the specifics on the headlights:
they come with LED angel eyes, we completely remove the rings and replace them with our own predator chromium.

we have a limited amount of these in stock for now, if you'd like to order please contact via pm or email.

so what's with the non flat "plane on the projected light pattern?
it seems like it's flat then hits a 30 degree upward angle

also do you have any pic's of the "screws/adjusters" for the lights
they are adjustable right?

thx
bill

anyone have info on this?

So the angel eyes are the only modification? Can we see a pic of just the headlight assembly (not in the dark) showing the modifications that were done?

anyone have info on this?

its called ECE cutoff or euro uptick.
its meant to illuminate street signs without blinding others.

So the angel eyes are the only modification? Can we see a pic of just the headlight assembly (not in the dark) showing the modifications that were done?

the only modifications are the angel eyes and hids, the angel eyes modification is pretty extensive since the "stock" ones are LED and have to be totally discarded and replaced with new units, it involves openning the headlights and reworking a few things to be able to turn the angel eyes right side up while keeping everything nice and neat.

the next step is to prep the headlights for the hids, aside from drilling the back covers the bulb housing has to be modifed to accept the hid bulbs.

at this point this is all the info we will share on the subject for obvious reasons, Ken will be posting daytime pictures at some point here shortly.

you need amber bulbs in the corners, otherwise it looks to ricey with the clear/blue...

its called ECE cutoff or euro uptick.
its meant to illuminate street signs without blinding others.

Thank you!

you need amber bulbs in the corners, otherwise it looks to ricey with the clear/blue...

Agreed. Otherwise, I think it looks decent so far. Im glad to hear the prices that showed up on the site are not for real..and am another anxiously waiting for daytimes.

That is actually what I am doing when I go home, since I found out the reason why my blinker is crazy is that I messed up the one bulb, so I have to switch it out anyway. Hopefully amber doesn't look dumb, although it is actually illegal in my state to have anything other than amber there. So for that reason I will prob throw the ambers in anyway.

On that note, anyone know where I can get the invisible ambers? The ones that are silver or clear when they are off...

As for daytime pics, I will try to take some shots when I get home tonight at 5. I know that isnt true 100% daylight. But its also not absolute darkness, but soon (by Monday) I will take pics in full sunlight so you guys can see how good the angel eyes actually do look!

possibly the same i dont know....those are just the angel eyes though and no headlights...

you have to install those too, mine are already in the lights, and there is no way i will ever bake my own lights open

and you if guys are really all "ebay this ebay that" "is the same thing" then buy the ebay product and lets compare them and see....

either way, I am happy with what I have.... let this thread remain about the install and the lights, not another bash on the vendor and you trying to find excuses about their product


People ask for angel eyes and projectors for the Z3 forever.... the show up, and everyone still complains!

Honestly, what the hell else do you want, is anyone ever satisfied?

and you if guys are really all "ebay this ebay that" "is the same thing" then buy the ebay product and lets compare them and see....



Dude, stop being such a fanboy. The lights are identical, the vendor admitted that. They take the same lights that are on eBay, and replace the angel eyes.

If you don't like the angel eyes of the Lumen lights, Bavtoys offers a set with upgraded angel eyes pre-installed for an increased cost. The quality and output of the rest of the light is identical.

When you take the daytime pics, please take some shots of the whole car so we can see how well the lights fit in with the front of the car.

Thanks.

this thread is about the z projectors we sell, no one else's, do not post links to other sites or vendors, this discussion is for our product ONLY.
if you feel the urge to post links or advertise for another vendor or site start your own thread at the vendor forum.
THIS WILL NOT BE TURNED INTO A PISSING/CHEERLEADING THREAD.
thank you for your cooperation.

On that note, anyone know where I can get the invisible ambers? The ones that are silver or clear when they are off...

Those are called stealth bulbs. See my post above. They usually cost around $30 per bulb if you go to several online vendors. But you can get 'em cheap on ebay. They're 1157 bulbs (double-filament for park light and signal light). I got all the stealth bulbs for all my cars from several ebay vendors. To match the rears, get the 1156 (single filament for signal lights).

Edit: habbie, I think you should add a choice of amber or stealth bulbs as an additional option in your package.

long time..:)
the prices are as follows:
the basic projector with the predator chromium $399
at this point only 2 hid kit are available with these, the digital 35w and the digital high output 50w, we chose these 2 kits for the relativly low heat they generate relative to their output.
the 35 w version with a lifetime warranty will add $235 to the price.
the 50w kit with a one year warranty will add $255.

as for the specifics on the headlights:
they come with LED angel eyes, we completely remove the rings and replace them with our own predator chromium.

we have a limited amount of these in stock for now, if you'd like to order please contact via pm or email.

Now you've got me more interested in yours. I've had LED AEs and they suck.

Can we see a pic of the stock Lumen angel eyes you removed, as the manufacter claims they are CCFL not LED.

Can we see a pic of the stock Lumen angel eyes you removed, as the manufacter claims they are CCFL not LED.

good idea, will do shortly.

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc112/BavToys/ledvsccfl2.jpg

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc112/BavToys/ledvsccfl3.jpg

LED on the left, one pic with flash on one without.

you have given out the prices with the HIDs you supply. what bulb type is it in case we already have our own HIDs we would rather use

this thread is about the z projectors we sell, no one else's, do not post links to other sites or vendors, this discussion is for our product ONLY.
if you feel the urge to post links or advertise for another vendor or site start your own thread at the vendor forum.
THIS WILL NOT BE TURNED INTO A PISSING/CHEERLEADING THREAD.
thank you for your cooperation.
Oh thats why MY thread was locked, it's ok though my FXs light up BOTH sides of the interstate, of course w/out blinding ppl, I'm happy, it's all about preference I suppose.

you have given out the prices with the HIDs you supply. what bulb type is it in case we already have our own HIDs we would rather use

they use h1 bulbs.

they use h1 bulbs.

both low and highs?

What is the color temperature on your 50w HID set? 4200K? 6000K? Or?

PS: Oops. I didn't read the thread title. Do you have them is a lower color temp than 6000K?
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both low and highs?

both.

i WILL have daytime pics up tommorrow.... camera was in the car today when i was at work so i could take pics when i got out, guess the crazy cold killed off the battery or something

i will take them tommorrow afternoon, i promise!

habbie, like my E36 Depos, I'm sure the AEs can be wired directly to the ignition so it is activated even during daytime?

just do them into your parking lights.... its really not much of a difference

makes me miss my z3... =[

nice coupe btw. lights look hooootttt too

habbie, like my E36 Depos, I'm sure the AEs can be wired directly to the ignition so it is activated even during daytime?

yup or like Ken said the corners will work too.

Okay, so what are the offerings again?

Sounds like

Basic projector with the predator chromium $399
Basic projector with the predator chromium & Digital 35w output $399 + $235 = $634
Basic projector with the predator chromium & Digital 50w output $399 + $255 = $654

Okay, so what are the offerings again?

Sounds like

Basic projector with the predator chromium $399
Basic projector with the predator chromium & Digital 35w output $399 + $235 = $634
Basic projector with the predator chromium & Digital 50w output $399 + $255 = $654

thats it, i only have a few sets left with the hids until my next shipment comes in.

How much is shipping to 41011? And I don't see a Z3 section on your website?

How much is shipping to 41011? And I don't see a Z3 section on your website?

click on the links bellow for shipped price, i have discounted these $15 for the last few sets i still have in stock.

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Just placed an order :) I can't believe I did that, I just spent $550 on getting my Viper 791XV installed today, and I blew $600 at Casino Windsor this weekend while I was at the Detroit Auto Show... Everyone wave goodbye to my paycheck :) Nobody let me buy any more mods for a month or two.

long time..:)
the prices are as follows:
the basic projector with the predator chromium $399
at this point only 2 hid kit are available with these, the digital 35w and the digital high output 50w, we chose these 2 kits for the relativly low heat they generate relative to their output.
the 35 w version with a lifetime warranty will add $235 to the price.
the 50w kit with a one year warranty will add $255.

habbie- Just out of curiosity why is the warranty higher for the 50w kit, and only good for a year; does the 50w burn out faster or something?
Also, with a warranty only good for a year and costing over half of the price of the light assembly is it a given that they will be faulty within or after a year?

Other than my hesitation for the costly warranty, they do look very good! Do you think you will eventually be offering an amber instead of clear/white?

habbie- Just out of curiosity why is the warranty higher for the 50w kit, and only good for a year; does the 50w burn out faster or something?
Also, with a warranty only good for a year and costing over half of the price of the light assembly is it a given that they will be faulty within or after a year?

Other than my hesitation for the costly warranty, they do look very good! Do you think you will eventually be offering an amber instead of clear/white?
there's a lifetime option available if you wish to purchase it, however the 50w kits have proven to be bulletproof so far with a (maybe) a single failure in the last 4 months.
its really up to you if you want the extra coverage or not, for the sake of keeping the price low i only posted the one year kit, if you want the lifetime kit i'll be glad to post that too.

as far as the amber vs. clear, as you know we dont make the headlight so we are limited to what the factory makes. amber bulbs?

Didn't even notice the different warranties. Depending on price for the 50W lifetime I may be interested in upgrading (if that's ok). I'd just send you another payment for the difference.

If you don't like the angel eyes of the Lumen lights, Bavtoys offers a set with upgraded angel eyes pre-installed for an increased cost.

Do you realize who you said that to? Did you read the whole thread? He does have the Bavtoys modified set. He is their "tester" on these. He started this thread. Geez Louise.

The quality and output of the rest of the light is identical.

He's not saying Bavtoys breathed on the lights and magically made the ebay lights appear to have higher quality. He's saying, in person, the same lights looked to be of high quality unlike the impression most of us had from just looking at pictures online.

The lights are identical, the vendor admitted that. They take the same lights that are on eBay, and replace the angel eyes.

Identical? You just pointed out yourself why they are not identical.

Dude, stop being such a fanboy.

So what if he is a fanboy. It's his perogative. Not a damn thing you can do about it.

Wow...someone with some common sense for once! Simply amazing


Well the way I see it, my lights just paid for themselves tonight!!!! I was going through the local reservation area on the way home from my buddy's house and there were deer frolicking about... one def ran across the street at about the same time I would have passed by, had I not had 2 helicopter spotlights on the front of my car and been able to stop in time!!!

If I had the normal stupid halogens in still, I can almost guarantee I would not have seen that thing run across the street and would be one of the most unhappy people in the world right now! But instead, I am quite happy because ~600 bucks just saved me like 6000 :eyecrazy


and by the way, as far as I am aware, supporting a product you PAY for, when you are not affiliated with the seller in anyway except for the simple fact that you enjoy their product is not being a fanboy...
I guess everyone is a tckline "fanboy" because their coilovers are better than what initially came with the car huh??

I noticed from every post of yours that has any significant hint towards this product that you have an attitude isue either towards either the vendor, myself, or the product in general. How bout we just keep this a simple thread about my installation and my positive results, which people actually appreciate, and amazingly, are also buying the same product due to them seeing what the item really looks like. If you honestly have an issue, keep it to pm's there is no necessary reason for your childish comments to come foward here. Or just dont post, ok thanks!!! :D opinions are cool, but I think you stepped over that boundary a while ago

Wow...someone with some common sense for once! Simply amazing


Well the way I see it, my lights just paid for themselves tonight!!!! I was going through the local "reservation" and there are deer frolicking about... one def ran across the street at about the same time I would have passed by, had I not had 2 helicopter spotlights on the front of my car and been able to stop in time!!!

If I had the normal stupid halogens in still, I can almost guarantee I would not have seen that thing run across the street and would be one of the most unhappy people in the world right now! But instead, I am quite happy because ~600 bucks just saved me like 6000 :eyecrazy

Ken,
write me a damn check...:cashwalle
:devillook

I really like these lights but I guess i'll wait for the next shipment (or more disposable cash)

you will be carrying these for at least 8 months right?

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Damn, after seeing the condition of my headlights on my Coupe last night (only visible with the lights on as a bunch of hairline cracks all over the lens), I am really very close in clicking one of the above.

I would assume the Lamin-X for OEM lights would fit these and the DRLs would work as well. I may have to remove the DRLs if the Predators are to be kept on all the time.

Very tempting, habbie. I'll try to make a decision by tomorrow.

Damn, after seeing the condition of my headlights on my Coupe last night (only visible with the lights on as a bunch of hairline cracks all over the lens), I am really very close in clicking one of the above.

I would assume the Lamin-X for OEM lights would fit these and the DRLs would work as well. I may have to remove the DRLs if the Predators are to be kept on all the time.

Very tempting, habbie. I'll try to make a decision by tomorrow.

lamin-x should work. def. ditch the drl's.:)

Didn't think about the DRLs... Will there be a problem to use the DRLs, or will it just look better with just the AEs? I'm not sure I still have the original headlight module.

Didn't think about the DRLs... Will there be a problem to use the DRLs, or will it just look better with just the AEs? I'm not sure I still have the original headlight module.

DRL's kill the AE's, that yellow light just doesn't look right.

kill the ae's as in their lifespan because it is being used??? thought these things are good for a couple thousand hours...

as for lamin-x, I definately need to get something to cover these things up, did you get the covers in yet??? if not i think i might just grab a set from elsewhere because I really dont want to see these get nicked or cracked because i didnt put a protective cover on them

I noticed from every post of yours that has any significant hint towards this product that you have an attitude isue either towards either the vendor, myself, or the product in general.

Eh... who are you talking to?

not you man .... lotustt guy has had some animosity embedded into every response he has made to any statement i have ever had about these lights

kill the ae's as in their lifespan because it is being used??? thought these things are good for a couple thousand hours...

as for lamin-x, I definately need to get something to cover these things up, did you get the covers in yet??? if not i think i might just grab a set from elsewhere because I really dont want to see these get nicked or cracked because i didnt put a protective cover on them
kill the AE's looks wise, that yellow light they emit just doesn't mix well with the angel eyes.

Eh... who are you talking to?

im sure it was not directed at you

Just placed an order :) I can't believe I did that, I just spent $550 on getting my Viper 791XV installed today, and I blew $600 at Casino Windsor this weekend while I was at the Detroit Auto Show... Everyone wave goodbye to my paycheck :) Nobody let me buy any more mods for a month or two.

1.) The alarm was a good investment

2.) I have been to Casino Windsor several times and I can sympathize with you. It's always fun to gamble especially if you win a little. I usually stop over during the Auto show myself.

3.) :wave enyrgee's :cashwalle lol

4.) Save up til Spring, you will find something to buy by then.

You will not be disappointed with your lights!!! :thumbup:
~Phil

habbie, can you include lamin-x as part of the package? i meant, as an addition to the package.

1. Do you have HID's with a lower color temp available that will work with this headlight set?

2. I am confused by your comment below. Do you mean replace the DRL headlight relay with the stock US one so the angel eyes (AE's?) will work properly? I assume your Predator angel eyes have a very long life, so there is no problem hooking them to a "run when on" circuit, right?

kill the AE's looks wise, that yellow light they emit just doesn't mix well with the angel eyes.

habbie, can you include lamin-x as part of the package? i meant, as an addition to the package.

sure, i dont stock them so i'll have to drop ship them from lamin x directly.

1. Do you have HID's with a lower color temp available that will work with this headlight set?

2. I am confused by your comment below. Do you mean replace the DRL headlight relay with the stock US one so the angel eyes (AE's?) will work properly? I assume your Predator angel eyes have a very long life, so there is no problem hooking them to a "run when on" circuit, right?

1. i have 4300k hid all the way to 8k, so yes i have lower temp.
2. i dont mean replace, i dont like the looks of drl and angel eyes, you may, the drl have no effect on the angel eyes what so ever except for looks, some like them some dont.
the angel eyes are fine "run when on" they have been for years on all e46's with very little issues.

2. i dont mean replace, i dont like the looks of drl and angel eyes, you may, the drl have no effect on the angel eyes what so ever except for looks, some like them some dont.
Ahhh. Now I know why I was confused. I was thinking AE's and HID's. I'm no longer confused.

You're referring to AE's and halogen's on DRL's. Agreed -- that looks odd with the cooler AE's and the high beam halogens running in DRL mode, which looks very yellow.

1. i have 4300k hid all the way to 8k, so yes i have lower temp.
Is there a lumen difference between the 4300K hid and the 6000K hid?

PS: As long as I'm asking, what's the lumen output of your H1 halogens, too?
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Ahhh. Now I know why I was confused. I was thinking AE's and HID's. I'm no longer confused.

You're referring to AE's and halogen's on DRL's. Agreed -- that looks odd with the cooler AE's and the high beam halogens running in DRL mode, which looks very yellow.


Is there a lumen difference between the 4300K hid and the 6000K hid?

PS: As long as I'm asking, what's the lumen output of your H1 halogens, too?
.

there's a differnce in output but the 6k is more pleasing to they eye, theres a ~15% difference in output but most of us will swear that the 6k is brighter even though we know its false...
the h1 halogen output can vary from 900 lumens to 1300 lumens.
its the intensity that makes a big difference, hids not only put out more light they are much more intense.

i took day pics.... ill throw them up tonight, I dont have my card reader on me.

Thanks for the call earlier.

Just wanted to let people know that the company that I ordered from gave me some false information about about the lights.

Just to clarify one more time. Lumen does not produce these lights, they are simply a reseller/exporter. I was misinformed by them on several "facts" that I was given. Most of the lights do NOT come with CCFL angel eyes, the bulbs are NOT H7 they are H1.

After talking to Habbie for a while about what he does to "modify" the stock ones it is quite a tear up that includes baking them open.

I am sorry for the noise when you called it was 1/2 way through a Hocky game in Slovakia, they are very very loud here.

I will be the 1st to say I got pissed and jumped the gun, ordering these from Hong Kong directly from Lumen. Now that I have had time to chill, and think things over, I realize while extremely early Umnitza was most likely just telling us because they were excited to offer a new product. I thank Habbie for the call and letting me know the skinny.

With that said my lights are still not to the States from Hong Kong....... bummer......

On the other hand BAVtoys gets my endorsement, just by the fact that you personally called me, and took the time to talk through the process of what you do to modify these. That makes me really comfortable with the fact that you are simply trying to offer the best possible product!! It also make me feel like you actually are a car nut just like the rest of us.

Thank you.

sure, i dont stock them so i'll have to drop ship them from lamin x directly.

Please advise cost of LaminX for these lights. Can you also let me know the cost of a yellow pair for E36 fogs since you'll be drop shipping them for me anyway. Are you going to include the LaminX in the package with the Z3 projectors? Or will they be shipped separately?

I have a friend who's dad owns a vinyl shop. Does anyone know if clear vinyl is the same thing as laminx? Even if I had to replace it once a year that'd be ok (free). Will it do anything at all?

Just order a set. Thanks Habbie!

For those considering Lamin-X. You can put the 40mil protectors, but in order to get them to fit smoothly, you'll need a heat gun to stretch the protector. It can be done though. I have them on my stock lights right now.

Please advise cost of LaminX for these lights. Can you also let me know the cost of a yellow pair for E36 fogs since you'll be drop shipping them for me anyway. Are you going to include the LaminX in the package with the Z3 projectors? Or will they be shipped separately?

the lamin-x will add $24 to the total, i can ship them via usps to you directly.
i dont carry the french fogs but i do have the yellow lamin-x for the the fogs.

here are the daytime pics i promised...

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/610/90764004do4.jpg
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/5599/89406125sl7.jpg
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/3559/15829614sv5.jpg
http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/6627/35042914sl9.jpg
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/7281/57906741zr9.jpg
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/763/99132213mv1.jpg

thanks for the pics. I think I realized that these just don't do it for me. I wish the rings filled out the housings better.

Looks great.

IMHO... They look really good, as long as you leave the halos off. They just don't look right for some reason.

And of course you purchased some 3M film to protect them so they don't go all cloudy on you, right? Its only $15 on ebay, I suggest you do that immediately.

The rings don't bother me - it looks like an updated version of our stock headlights. I'm not a fan of the turn signal, though. It's too recessed and dark - makes it look like one big black headlight cover. Any chance there will be a different version with a stock-ish looking turn signal ever made?

Just replace the turn signal with one of those cool 5 watt LEDs.

http://www.superbrightleds.com/specs/115x-xLX3.htm (http://www.superbrightleds.com/specs/115x-xLX3.htm)

I think the metal heat sink on the LED would look cool.

I am goign to buy some lamin-x or something of the sort this week to throw on the lights so they dont get all beat up... i want the clear, not the yellow... ouri can you get me some of this stuff??? or tell me where to get it asap so these things stay nice and fresh???


I may try some hdr stuff today, as many of you know I love doing hdr, and am pretty good at it.

Think it would be interesting to see how these things look, as far as reflections and such...

I am goign to buy some lamin-x or something of the sort this week to throw on the lights so they dont get all beat up... i want the clear, not the yellow... ouri can you get me some of this stuff??? or tell me where to get it asap so these things stay nice and fresh???


I may try some hdr stuff today, as many of you know I love doing hdr, and am pretty good at it.

Think it would be interesting to see how these things look, as far as reflections and such...

Ken,
email me your addy and i'll send you some.:)

Just replace the turn signal with one of those cool 5 watt LEDs.

http://www.superbrightleds.com/specs/115x-xLX3.htm (http://www.superbrightleds.com/specs/115x-xLX3.htm)

I think the metal heat sink on the LED would look cool.

http://www.superbrightleds.com/products/car/1156-xLX3_mm.jpg

That looks cool. I want!

That looks cool. I want!

I am not 100% sure but I think you'd need to wire in some sort of resistor if you're going to use the LED as blinker. Without one it'd blink double time and possibly cause your relay to fail prematurely.

I am not 100% sure but I think you'd need to wire in some sort of resistor if you're going to use the LED as blinker. Without one it'd blink double time and possibly cause your relay to fail prematurely.

+1
the resistor will more then likely be a must.

i think they look great. just with ambers and some lamin x your set.
btw, DO NOT get ebay lamin X. its a nock off and a piece of crap tape like plastic. the real Lamin X is damn good though

Thanks for posting the daytime pics...

ambers in... i LIKE them, taking pics in about an hour

lamin x is coming my way via habbie...

Do you have any pics with the low beam running in daylight?

Any pictures of the chrome version of this headlight vs the black version?

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day pics?

day pics?

Read. Pictures were posted in this thread.

more pics will be up in a few, just resizing and such right now...

here are some shots from tonight.... mostly hdr, some are just random exposures to see what the angel eyes look like...

http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/8623/img4779gx5.jpg
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/580/img4780aw2.jpg
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/8248/img4781xk3.jpg
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/9551/img47798081ms4.jpg
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/2457/img4785jo6.jpg
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/9743/img4786an8.jpg
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/9017/img4787vh0.jpg
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/508/img478756sy4.jpg
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/6467/img479123tx9.jpg
http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/9944/img480201qi4.jpg
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/6038/img48091011el3.jpg
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/908/img481978dc9.jpg
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/6848/img482201jm4.jpg



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Looks good.

Holy shit, that cutoff is SO much better than my Depos! I'm amazed.

It looks wayyy better with the ambers, nice to see.

yea the second I put them in I was much more pleased with them, with the ambers in, at night it kinda looks like the corner lenses are actually there, which we obviously all know they arent...

So what does it look like with ambers in during the day, without any lights on? Can you still see some amber, or are they stealth bulbs?

Daytime pics.... as per some people's request...

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/6561/img4898gd8.jpg
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/1452/img4899vg4.jpg
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/1075/img4900dc0.jpg
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/864/img4902uu6.jpg
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/3856/img4903zy8.jpg
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/8358/img4904nl7.jpg
http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/2270/img4906yw9.jpg
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/7892/img4907ow4.jpg
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/1840/img4908gg7.jpg

any other specific pics people are looking for? I will be glad to take them...

^no but since i will be buying these soon...

the small things that went wrong how did you fix them specifically?

1. wires being too short
2. wiring up AE to turn on when car turns on

anything else?

I wired the AE's to the parking lights...just tap into the positive and ground wires


and only cable that is short is the driver side parking light, black wire... I basically just took a soldering gun, grabbed a piece of wire I had, cut the wire on the light, and soldered in a piece to make it like 2 inches longer.... im sure you could just wrap them and duct tape it, although that is NOT the best practice.... but if necessary that is the worst case scenario

everything else is VERY easy, its just getting them perfectly level, and to fit EXACTLY even on each side... but I am anal with this stuff, so maybe it wont bother you as much if its off by a mm or 2

I wired the AE's to the parking lights...just tap into the positive and ground wires


and only cable that is short is the driver side parking light, black wire... I basically just took a soldering gun, grabbed a piece of wire I had, cut the wire on the light, and soldered in a piece to make it like 2 inches longer.... im sure you could just wrap them and duct tape it, although that is NOT the best practice.... but if necessary that is the worst case scenario

everything else is VERY easy, its just getting them perfectly level, and to fit EXACTLY even on each side... but I am anal with this stuff, so maybe it wont bother you as much if its off by a mm or 2

duct tape is not good, duck tape is metal and will short everything out, use electrical tape never duck tape.
we have fixed the corner light wire issue too by making it a bit longer.

AHHHH I meant electrical tape!!! my fault.......

AHHHH I meant electrical tape!!! my fault.......
:)

^do you still have sets for the discounted price?

^do you still have sets for the discounted price?

i do, 3 sets left.

Habbie... did you get my emails? Im still waiting for a response.

A few more questions:

Where did you get those amber bulbs specifically? When my headlights come in I want to be able to have bulbs ready.

How do these headlights align? screw type?

You stated you are having some small issues getting the unit itself to align to the car, did you get it right now and how did you do it?

Thanks, I can't wait to get mine in.

Any comparisons between stock lighting, 35W HID, and 50W HID?


I'm trying to decide between the two HID options and it would be nice to see the difference.

Thanks.

..

bulbs were pulled from my stock lights....

align via screwdriver spinny thing, i dont know what to call it

as for alignment, they are pefectly even on the car, and the beam is perfectly even on the wall...

I am VERY happy still with the lights

I wanna see a pic in the day time with no lights on now that the ambers are in. They are lookin pretty good with ambers on I must say.

if it stops raining, and i get time tommorrow, i will take a few

Take a look at my DIY cutoff thread

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=514509

that loooks sick man

hmmmm interesting....

dont really feel like taking these apart though

hmmmm interesting....

dont really feel like taking these apart though
It's really easy, and you can actually manipulate the cut off how you would like it. I myself prefer it to be straight while aimed up just high enough to hit the bottom of the road signs.

I wanna see a pic in the day time with no lights on now that the ambers are in. They are lookin pretty good with ambers on I must say.
Same here...

Overall I think they look great. Once they are on the car they don't look riced out at all. I have to admit the headlights by themselves look a little ricey, but once mounted they look awesome.

I'm still unsure whether I can spend that much on lights right now, but I do need a left headlight so if anyone who is doing this mod wants to sell their OEM lights PM me and let me know what you would like to get for one of them or both of them.

If I can find a cheap used headlight for now I may do that and then down the road save up for these lights. They definitely sound like they're worth the money. I was considering purchasing 2 new OEM headlights for the same price then saw this thread and realized that was definitely a dumb idea.

Still wish that lady hadn't back into my M 2 days after I got it!

Well, my lights are PERFECTLY even the way I want them aligned with my hood and bumper, i definately dont plan on taking them off to do a cutoff line at this moment in time...

but it may be attempted later

well ok, original issue resolved quickly!

Thanks Habbie.

Btw, I know I have to wire these into the parking lights (the AE's), but I'm guessing if I wanted them on when the car turns on I have to wire them from the battery with a switch or tap into an accessory wire somewhere?

Received my headlights, but there are no instructions that came with it.

This is my first time connecting lights of this nature. Can anyone (Habbie) help out with directions/instructions on how to connect everything up?

^Well the HIDs can't be messed up, male to female and vice versa. the high beams would normally hook in what you remove from the old set.

there is an extra plug with on each headlights (2 per side) thats the angel eyes(i'm pretty sure). this is the most tricky part (which isn't really). you need to splice these wires into the parking light wires.

edit: if you look at the OP's pictures, you will notice an extra box that came with it. I was told by habbie these are now inside the headlight units themselves and aren't exposed.

f you look at the OP's pictures, you will notice an extra box that came with it. I was told by habbie these are now inside the headlight units themselves and aren't exposed.

Nope, I've got the same exact stuff.

So, it looks like I've got two things to mount. The silver box for the HID and the black box for the LEDs.

Silver Box - No mounting screws. Am I suppose to go to Home Depot and find appropriate screws? Any suggested mounted points or I'm free to choose wherever I like?

Black Box - Does this thing get mounted or just simply get taped to the body somewhere. Adhesive double sided tape, duct tape, electrical tape?

The black box for the LEDs has tiny black/red wirings. I'm assuming I need to cut into the parking light wire and splice these small wires into the parking light wire, correct?

Yes, these are noob type questions because this is the first set of HIDs I've ever had to deal with. I usually fairly good with tools, but when there are no instructions whatsoever included with an item, I learned it's better to ask, than ask again instead of guessing and finding out you f_cked up somewhere.

I don't doubt the product based on everyone's reviews, but I think even some basic generic instructions on a single sheet of paper for first timers would have been very helpful.

I used double sided tape and mounted both under the lights on the metal bumper support beam... the fit, cant see them, its cold there, and yea, thats about it!


for reference, look for the umnitza page, maybe even on the site, there is an install pdf, maybe ouri should steal this and kinda use it himself / print it and sent it along

overall its not hard, they only plug up one way, toughest part is tapping in and wiring the angel eyes into the parking lights,

I am sure the man himself will jump in here sometime and give his .02

Nope, I've got the same exact stuff.

So, it looks like I've got two things to mount. The silver box for the HID and the black box for the LEDs.

Silver Box - No mounting screws. Am I suppose to go to Home Depot and find appropriate screws? Any suggested mounted points or I'm free to choose wherever I like?

Black Box - Does this thing get mounted or just simply get taped to the body somewhere. Adhesive double sided tape, duct tape, electrical tape?

The black box for the LEDs has tiny black/red wirings. I'm assuming I need to cut into the parking light wire and splice these small wires into the parking light wire, correct?

Yes, these are noob type questions because this is the first set of HIDs I've ever had to deal with. I usually fairly good with tools, but when there are no instructions whatsoever included with an item, I learned it's better to ask, than ask again instead of guessing and finding out you f_cked up somewhere.

I don't doubt the product based on everyone's reviews, but I think even some basic generic instructions on a single sheet of paper for first timers would have been very helpful.

have you tried the INSTALL GUIDES link in my sig??

ORRRR use that... :)


and i took a crapload of pics about an hour ago... prob gonna spend a lot of time on these, but they will be up soon

Hey MZ how would you rate the light output? Is it pretty much a night and day difference or it is just so so? I was reading somewhere on here that someone felt it was an improvement, but not as good as some of the other xenon's they have had in the past?

Nope, I've got the same exact stuff.

Black Box - Does this thing get mounted or just simply get taped to the body somewhere. Adhesive double sided tape, duct tape, electrical tape?


ok i asked him this last night and he said it was inside the headlights...

I just have some connectors coming out. I just assumed the black box was put inside whenever they did everything else.

I don't see any indication of where these black boxes are going to be. it was late last night whenever I opened them up. where were the black boxes?

have you tried the INSTALL GUIDES link in my sig??

No. I was not aware that the install guides were located in your signature.

Now I know, so I will go there. Thank you for telling me.

In the future, it might be a good idea to ship a small note to let others like me know as well where one might find installation guides.

Now I'm off to read these installation guides! :)

I think they are better than my mz4 lighting.... and DEFINATELY better than the stock mz3 lighting

I am happy!!

I have no ever had an aftermarket set of xenon's / hid's so I cannot really compare them to anything other than my m roadster, which I think they outshine...

I don't see any indication of where these black boxes are going to be. it was late last night whenever I opened them up. where were the black boxes?

This is the black box I was referring to. It's the bottom one in the picture below. (I don't know why there is a sharpie blackout on all the text...)

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/641/img4728co7.jpg

^yeah ok i don't see those anywhere. I think i'm missing those for real now.

edit: Another issue is I think Lamin-x shipped the wrong protective film. They sent me foglight covers and not the actual headlight covers. I guess either the part # got written down wrong.

Ok, sent two pm's and one email to the website. Eagerly awaiting updates.

Is it four splices for the AEs (one for each of the four lamps), or two splices (one for each side, drivers and passengers)?

..

^4 that go into the two connectors in the ballast which then hook into your parking lights (or where ever)

^4 that go into the two connectors in the ballast which then hook into your parking lights (or where ever)


Possible at all to have four separate connections post-ballast?

..

so how is the fit on these? perfect, very close to oem, or sloppy?

mine fit just as well as my stock lights....took me a while since i am anal, but once i was done playing with them and making them even they have no more gap than my stock lights did

Any 35W vs 50W photos?

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QUICK update of night pics of light output if anyone is interested...

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/3421/img5137wt3.jpg
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/2754/img5142aw0.jpg
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/7783/img5148re9.jpg
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/6979/img5151bl4.jpg

Diz-am
~Phil

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Order Completed! Can't wait to get it... :)

after talking on the phone, I ordered a set this afernoon. I was impressed with Bavtoys, can't wait to get em!

So I just installed mine and the HID's are working, but not the AE's (well it is direct sunlight, could be the culprit)

I received a different set of ballasts so they were not plug and play (for the AEs). I hardwired them. I kept consistant with the positive/negative. I double checked everything too so I don't understand why they don't appear to be working.

I'll test it again later on in the day.

some tips/thoughts:

You still have to extend the driver's corner harness (unless mine wasn't one of the modified ones)

its a tight fit with all the ballast

So I just installed mine and the HID's are working, but not the AE's (well it is direct sunlight, could be the culprit)

I received a different set of ballasts so they were not plug and play (for the AEs). I hardwired them. I kept consistant with the positive/negative. I double checked everything too so I don't understand why they don't appear to be working.

I'll test it again later on in the day.

some tips/thoughts:

You still have to extend the driver's corner harness (unless mine wasn't one of the modified ones)

its a tight fit with all the ballast
Peter, i sent you another set of ballast today you should get on monday, swap them in and it should clear all your problems.

^ok, wow thanks for helping :)

I just thought I wired it wrong.

so from the headlights to the AE ballast, there are two wires for each AE. one has a clear tubing on it and the other does not. I just treat the one with the clear tubing as + and the other as -. So on the ballast are two white wires which are the same. I just chose the the left one (when the harness was on) and attached that to the +.

Then from the ballast there are two wires (one red which is + and then the other brown -). I attached the red to the parking light harness (before the harness) which is blue + and then brown to brown.

This correct?

btw mz4speed4me, I have the fast blinking light on the drivers side. I think it could be wiring or just the bulb.

Thanks Habbie

id bet its your wiring.... check the ground wire first, and the ground wire connection into the corner light housing, it can come loose when you stretch it, like i think mine did and i am having a bitch of a time getting it back in

Can I ask something?
Where is the link for the Bavtoys Z3 headlights site, because I can't find it in www.bavtoys.com (http://www.bavtoys.com)
I am interested on getting a pair of headlights for my future Z3.
Thank You.

Can I ask something?
Where is the link for the Bavtoys Z3 headlights site, because I can't find it in www.bavtoys.com (http://www.bavtoys.com)
I am interested on getting a pair of headlights for my future Z3.
Thank You.
I think it's just the Paypal links in post #143....

Quick question...What is this connection coming out the bottom of the headlight supposed to be connected to? I have connected the highbeams, lowbeams, angel eyes, and the turn signal already...

Thanks.

EDIT: Never Mind, Problem Solved! Thanks Habbie!

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/7925/cimg3951uj3.th.jpg (http://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cimg3951uj3.jpg)


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Hi, Can someone please tell me what wire is POWER on the AE ballasts.... Grey or Brown ?

Thanks in advance, install almost done.

hey i havent sent that pic regarding the bulb.... been a tad busy and now the car isnt in my hands for a week :)

Are these still in stock??

should i go with 35 or 50??

my 50's havent given any issues, and they are definately brighter than 35's, however 35's can come with the lifetime warranty where the 50's will not

i am willing to just go and replace the bulbs when the go, most people will not want to spend that extra money, even though i feel these 50 watt will still last for a long time :)

Habbie, sent 2 PMs. Please respond.

How long is it taking you people to get the stoneguards?

I got the kit early last week, but the guards have yet to arrive...

How long is it taking you people to get the stoneguards?

I got the kit early last week, but the guards have yet to arrive...

habbie had stated that the stoneguards are to be shipped directly from lamin-x. and based on my experience, lamin-x takes a long time to ship.

Does the stoneguard look the same as the regular 3M clearbra? I have clearbra on my hood and bumpers and want to ensure that the stuff they send for the headlamps is the same color and will not yellow out. :D

habbie had stated that the stoneguards are to be shipped directly from lamin-x. and based on my experience, lamin-x takes a long time to ship.

My plan was to apply the stoneguards before doing the install as to keep as much crap (finger prints, smudges, dirt) off of the plastic shroud as possible.

Should I wait to get the lamin-x?

Does the stoneguard look the same as the regular 3M clearbra? I have clearbra on my hood and bumpers and want to ensure that the stuff they send for the headlamps is the same color and will not yellow out. :D

It's a clear plastic sheet for the headlights that has the same function as bras and that is to protect the headlights from stone chips.

However, I've read it is also good to protect the headlights from yellowing as the lamin-x is the one that gets yellow. And if it does, just peel it off and apply a new one and lights should look new again. This I gotta see over time.

My plan was to apply the stoneguards before doing the install as to keep as much crap (finger prints, smudges, dirt) off of the plastic shroud as possible.

Should I wait to get the lamin-x?

It is really up to you if you want to wait or not. I don't see any issues, though, in applying the stoneguards after the lights has been installed on the car.

Quick question...What is this connection coming out the bottom of the headlight supposed to be connected to? I have connected the highbeams, lowbeams, angel eyes, and the turn signal already...

Thanks.

EDIT: Never Mind, Problem Solved! Thanks Habbie!

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Can you post the solution because now I don't know what those wires are for now?

Also, I've got the same short wire issue on the driver side for the signal light!

Im looking at the wiring for this kit, as Im going to try and do the install today.

is there a reason why the ballast box has the wiring diagram sloppily blacked out with a marker? seems pretty ghetto in a kit that was $700.

second, where can i tap into for the +/- leads ?

Habbie, PM sent. Awaiting response.

Got it today, habbie! :redspot

Everything is very well sorted out and I'd have to say these look better in person than the pics and quality seems to be pretty good. Looking forward to the install.

Got it today, habbie! :redspot

Everything is very well sorted out and I'd have to say these look better in person than the pics and quality seems to be pretty good. Looking forward to the install.

that took a while...
so usps delivered on Sunday??

that took a while...
so usps delivered on Sunday??

Took a while? No it didn't. The delivery time was pretty decent considering my geographical location. :)

I got it on Monday. I'm a day ahead of you.

output si very bright. but i feel bad for those people in the right lane ><. make sure you allign them so the flat lines on the left are level. and aprox 2" drop from the ride hieght of ur car at 20'

-B

How are you guys adjusting the beams? I have the lights aligned pretty much even with the bumper and hood but I can't figure out how to use the wheels to adjust the beam.

TIA.

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that took a while...
so usps delivered on Sunday??

Are you answering PMs?

Can I ask something?
Where is the link for the Bavtoys Z3 headlights site, because I can't find it in www.bavtoys.com (http://www.bavtoys.com)
I am interested on getting a pair of headlights for my future Z3.
Thank You.

they aren't on the site, the special is only available here on the forum for now.

added 2 links with stoneguards, these will be drop shipped fron laminx directly to you.

click here to place your order:
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