New E30 / E21/ 2002 ultra-lightweight race wheel coming soon from UUC!

http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/images/UUC_logo_h.gif

We are now taking pre-orders on a special lightweight 15x7 5-spoke race wheel, exclusively built by a leading force in the wheel manufacturing community. This is a popular "tuner style" wheel that looks great and clears many big brake kits.

http://store.nexternal.com/uuc/images/E30_5.gif

This is the perfect track or street wheel for fitting wide rubber under your car. At just over 13lbs., you'll have a hard time finding a better performance wheel for the money! 25mm offset, flow-formed for superior strength, and fully tested for impact and crack resistance. Available in anthracite or bronze color. BMW roundel center caps are also available.

Ideal for SpecE30 and other race classes, also stylish enough for street use.

PRE-ORDER NOW for only $105 PER WHEEL! (shipping additional) AVAILABLE LATE MARCH OR EARLY APRIL, 2008.

ADDITIONAL PRE-ORDER SPECIAL OFFER: Buy 4 or more wheels, get the UUC stainless steel brake line kit for only $63 (normally $119). You must add the brake lines to your order! Special offer only available until wheels start shipping.

ORDER NOW: http://www.nexternal.com/uuc/Product590

Applications: E30 ('82-'92) 325, 318 (all models except iX), E21 3-series, and 2002

Bolt pattern: 4x100

Size: 15x7

Offset: 25

Weight: approximately 13.25lbs.

Color: bronze or anthracite

New E30 / E21/ 2002 ultra-lightweight race wheel coming soon from UUC!

http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/images/UUC_logo_h.gif

We are now taking pre-orders on a special lightweight 15x7 5-spoke race wheel, exclusively built by a leading force in the wheel manufacturing community. This is a popular "tuner style" wheel that looks great and clears many big brake kits.

http://store.nexternal.com/uuc/images/E30_5.gif

This is the perfect track or street wheel for fitting wide rubber under your car. At just over 13lbs., you'll have a hard time finding a better performance wheel for the money! 25mm offset, flow-formed for superior strength, and fully tested for impact and crack resistance. Available in anthracite or bronze color. BMW roundel center caps are also available.

Ideal for SpecE30 and other race classes, also stylish enough for street use.

PRE-ORDER NOW for only $99 PER WHEEL! (shipping additional) AVAILABLE LATE MARCH OR EARLY APRIL, 2008.

ADDITIONAL PRE-ORDER SPECIAL OFFER: Buy 4 or more wheels, get the UUC stainless steel brake line kit for only $69 (normally $119). You must add the brake lines to your order! Special offer only available until wheels start shipping.

ORDER NOW: http://www.nexternal.com/uuc/Product590

Applications: E30 ('82-'92) 325, 318 (all models except iX), E21 3-series, and 2002

Bolt pattern: 4x100

Size: 15x7

Offset: 25

Weight: approximately 13.25lbs.

Color: bronze or anthracite

Any chance of getting this wheel made in 15X8, 5X120?

Any chance of getting this wheel made in 15X8, 5X120?

:buttrock

--or--

Any chance of getting this wheel made in 15X8, 5X120 for $99?

:D

Any chance of getting this wheel made in 15X8, 5X120?

Statistically, there's a chance of anything. :D

- Rob

Unless the manf. of that wheel only offers a 15x7 I think a 15x8 would sell better after reading a lot of posts on the E30 specific boards.

Unless the manf. of that wheel only offers a 15x7 I think a 15x8 would sell better after reading a lot of posts on the E30 specific boards.

I think 7" is a better decision. For running really wide tires, 8" presents more of a problem in that the wheel itself will hit the strut housing if you have to move the offset in far enough for the tire to clear the fender lip. 7" does not limit you from running any width that would fit the E30, and gives that extra clearance for the strut.

- Rob

also 15x8" isn't spec E30 legal. I always like to buy wheels/parts that there is a market for.

We speced the 15x7 on these (DForce) for the Spec E30 crowd, which we already work a lot with. Same on the 25et - fits without a fender roll even with a 225 tire. Unless I am off base and these are a different wheel than the ones we put up for sale last night? Either way, that is the fitment.

Nice, I like the bronze!!

Nice, I like the bronze!!

Cool, huh? I was originally thinking of going all Darth Vader on a project E30 325is we're working on, all black with black wheels... but I think the bronze will be a really awesome alternative.

are these rota's?

are these rota's?
they look like d-force ltw5's

Looks a whole lot like these, minus the offset being different.

http://www.5zigenusa.com/english/products/wheel/5zigen/fn01rc.html

Are they going to be concaved in like the bottom silver wheel, or flat spoked like the top bronze wheel?

Are they going to be concaved in like the bottom silver wheel, or flat spoked like the top bronze wheel?

Same exact wheel, just the shadows make it look different

We speced the 15x7 on these (DForce) for the Spec E30 crowd, which we already work a lot with. Same on the 25et - fits without a fender roll even with a 225 tire. Unless I am off base and these are a different wheel than the ones we put up for sale last night? Either way, that is the fitment.

Ironic, I spec'd the first e36/e46 17" and 18" x9 wheels and then you did the e30! Get with the times man!

they look like d-force ltw5's

:urtheman and right!

Ironic, I spec'd the first e36/e46 17" and 18" x9 wheels and then you did the e30! Get with the times man!

No, it was the internet. I spec'd the internet. Invented the whole thing. Nobody every connected two computers or drove a car on track until I did it.

:lol

are these rota's?

I am not aware of any affiliation between the manufacturer of these wheels and Rota.

they look like d-force ltw5's
Looks a whole lot like these, minus the offset being different.
http://www.5zigenusa.com/english/products/wheel/5zigen/fn01rc.html

Hence "tuner style". You know how it is in the wheel business... there are maybe 10 good designs, 10,000 bad designs, and the popular wheels are all variations of those good 10.

- Rob

I am not aware of any affiliation between the manufacturer of these wheels and Rota.




Hence "tuner style". You know how it is in the wheel business... there are maybe 10 good designs, 10,000 bad designs, and the popular wheels are all variations of those good 10.

- Rob

so are they d-force wheels?

No, it was the internet. I spec'd the internet. Invented the whole thing. Nobody every connected two computers or drove a car on track until I did it.

:lol

:help so when my porn doesn't load...it's your fault

so are they d-force wheels?

Yes, they're D-Force wheels which have a very similar look to 5zigen fn01r wheels.

so are they d-force wheels?

Of course... says so right on our website:

http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/images/DFE30tn.jpg (http://www.nexternal.com/uuc/Product590)
http://www.nexternal.com/uuc/Product590

UUC is a D-Force distributor, we move a lot of the E36/E46 wheels for them.

However, the bronze race color is exclusive to UUC.

- Rob

:help so when my porn doesn't load...it's your fault

Hey, if you're wearing out your DSL on cold and lonely nights, don't blame me!

Hey, if you're wearing out your DSL on cold and lonely nights, don't blame me!

DSL? foodstampin! we rock out with FIOS!

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The gay porn business is happy to have you DAN!!!:redspot

edit: I'm staying out of this one.

The gay porn business is happy to have you DAN!!!:redspot

It is your purchases that keep the videos coming!

I thought it was Tim starring in them that kept them selling? You's gots a perrty mouth...:bj

Hmm that bronze would look good on my Oxford Green 73 2002ti, might have to sell the bottle caps!

Same exact wheel, just the shadows make it look different

So they are concave, or is that one the shadows making it look concave?

I thought it was Tim starring in them that kept them selling? You's gots a perrty mouth...:bj

NAH, Tim sold the van...

So they are concave, or is that one the shadows making it look concave?

Looks more like the silver wheel.

I thought it was Tim starring in them that kept them selling? You's gots a perrty mouth...:bj

You guys want a private room? Must be an hourly rate place by the bridge or the river. :lol

- Rob

dang, that's cheap. I know where I'm getting my wheels when it comes time.
Jake

Very nice. I know what I'm getting when I get my car.

Cool, huh? I was originally thinking of going all Darth Vader on a project E30 325is we're working on, all black with black wheels... but I think the bronze will be a really awesome alternative.

Haha, I already beat you to it, Rob! I believe I'm the first one to have an ALL BLACK E30 325is!
:lol

also 15x8" isn't spec E30 legal. I always like to buy wheels/parts that there is a market for.

It's not spec E30 legal, but a 15x8 is legal for an E30 in MANY other classes. The first thing I thought when I saw these was that it's too bad they don't have a 15x8. They still look to be awesome wheels though.

I like the style but I would prefer an 8in wide wheel, and even 16 inch for a little less tire sidewall and more room for larger brakes.

I know you guys were having problems with your own brake kit fitting behind 15x7 team dynamics wheels does your brake kit fit behind these wheels?

Since the commonly given reason for Kosei not making the 15" x 8" wheel anymore is that "the mould wore out",,, that says to me,,, the were selling some 15" x 8"s.

If were selling enough 15" x 8" wheels that the damn mould wore out,,, seems to me,,, I'd make a new mould because its a pretty popular wheel.

I have somewhat stocked up on Kosei 15" x 8" wheels (6 sets now),,, but I really believe there is a market for 15" x 8" wheels (since now NO ONE,,, makes one) and about 100 companies make 15' x 7"s
I see a hole in the market...

Cheers
jimmy

UUC likely doesn't know, because Bimmerworld spec'd the wheel and then UUC just posted an ad for them when they saw that Bimmerworld was taking preorders ...

I like the style but I would prefer an 8in wide wheel, and even 16 inch for a little less tire sidewall and more room for larger brakes.

I know you guys were having problems with your own brake kit fitting behind 15x7 team dynamics wheels does your brake kit fit behind these wheels?

Haha, I already beat you to it, Rob! I believe I'm the first one to have an ALL BLACK E30 325is!
:lol

Nice chrome window trim - HA! Shadowline trim coming for mine! :D

I know you guys were having problems with your own brake kit fitting behind 15x7 team dynamics wheels does your brake kit fit behind these wheels?

I think I may have resolved the problem; apparently the point of contact with the revised TD wheels was at the top corner of the caliper. Wilwood has an alternate Dynalite with a rounded corner (the ones we've been using have a square corner profile) that should be nicely compatible. Details to be posted as available.


UUC likely doesn't know, because Bimmerworld spec'd the wheel and then UUC just posted an ad for them when they saw that Bimmerworld was taking preorders ...

Nice attempt to stir the pot for no productive reason. UUC is one of the largest D-Force distributors, and these wheels are a D-Force product. All D-Force dealers should be offering them. I think most people, when thinking it through, would find it hilarious that someone else is claiming to have invented the wheel! :lol "Now I don't care who y'are, that's funny right there!"

- Rob

Nice attempt to stir the pot for no productive reason. UUC is one of the largest D-Force distributors, and these wheels are a D-Force product. All D-Force dealers should be offering them. I think most people, when thinking it through, would find it hilarious that someone else is claiming to have invented the wheel! :lol "Now I don't care who y'are, that's funny right there!"

- Rob

Not sure if that was stirring the pot or just giving the truth Rob. We never claimed to have invented the wheel. What we did do is commission these wheels to be made because we wanted to be able to offer our Spec E30 racers a less expensive wheel that is stronger than the current cheap ones. We agreed to purchase a very large number, and for doing this, we offered the wheels for sale at a reduced price as an introductory offer to help us cover a $25,000 investment that I made so this product would happen.

What you did was immediately post (within 12 hours) that you were selling the same wheel before you even contacted the manufacturer, not realizing maybe that we have an exclusive period of one month in which no other company can get these wheels. For some reason you even invented the wheel weight which I have not decided on yet - laughable. And not only did you try to jump on our wagon, you also tried to undersell us to make us look bad in the process.

Now, every other distributor of D-Force wheels has the decency and integrity to not market the wheels and let us recoup our investment that we are making to bring these wheels to market. To date, you don't seem to have the same.

If I am wrong and you just didn't know the deal even after you talked to the manufacturer, I would be happy to remove my post or this whole thread that is unfairly stealing our preorders that are necessary for us to bring projects like this to market.

Since you are such a big fan of quotes - try this one on. "The thing about business ethics is..." Why do I think this is not the first time I have offered this one to you?

Not sure if that was stirring the pot or just
giving the truth Rob.

Truth?

You asked for it.

We never claimed to have invented the wheel.

No, but you and your boy "robweenerpi" posting on the SpecE30 board (yes, I saw that today) make it seem like the idea of doing another size wheel is a total revelation to a wheel manufacturer. By the way - you might want to have him heavily edit the fictions and mistruths in that post.

The funny thing is, at least two weeks ago, we were sitting around the UUC offices saying "Would D-Force do an E30 fitment? We've got these couple of E30 project/track cars we're building." Not an original thought. I'm sure D-Force was not "surprised" at the idea.

What we did do is commission these wheels to be made because we wanted to be able to offer our Spec E30 racers a less expensive wheel that is stronger than the current cheap ones. We agreed to purchase a very large number, and for doing this, we offered the wheels for sale at a reduced price as an introductory offer to help us cover a $25,000 investment that I made so this product would happen.

It's a D-Force product, no matter how many you buy. Should've had "Bimmerworld wheels" built if you wanted a real exclusive.

UUC is a D-Force distributor.

We become aware of a new D-Force product, we offer it for sale at the standard margin. But hey, if our price comes out cheaper than yours, maybe we just do margin calculations differently.


What you did was immediately post (within 12 hours) that you were
selling the same wheel before you even contacted the manufacturer, not
realizing maybe that we have an exclusive period of one month in which
no other company can get these wheels.

Truth: we did contact D-Force, we did discuss costing, we did discuss availability date, and we did commission a custom color. Odd that my standing order with D-Force had no discussion about exclusivity on anybody's part - it's their wheel, not yours.

For some reason you even invented the wheel weight which I have
not decided on yet - laughable.

Those are figures from the manufacturer. "You" are deciding on the weight? Please, James... you're no wheel engineer. The manufacturer decides the balance between design and minimized weight, you don't just pick a number out of the air - it's not "Let's Make a Deal" here.


And not only did you try to jump on our wagon, you also tried to
undersell us to make us look bad in the process.

Again, standard margin. Maybe you're overcharging for a simple 15" wheel? If you'll notice, your foot-stamping caused us to discuss a MAP (minimum advertised price) for the wheel, which we've switched to
(increased) in all of our posts. The advertising will adhere to the manufacturer's wishes.


Now let's talk "truth" about you "jumping on the bandwagon".

1/4/2008: UUC announces new Alcon big brake kit product.
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=905660

Just a couple of days later with no other discussion of BBKs on the Track forum: James Clay posts "Since brakes have come up recently I am going to introduce the one we have been working on."

Nice new Performance Friction product... which does not exist yet, has not been announced by the actual manufacturer, and is clearly an effort to draw attention away from the excitement about our Alcons.

I got e-mails and phone calls about that little game you are playing.


Now, every other distributor of D-Force wheels has the decency
and integrity to not market the wheels and let us recoup our investment
that we are making to bring these wheels to market. To date, you don't
seem to have the same.


If they have not caught up in the last couple of days, so be it. Nobody is "not advertising" due to any "respect" for you. They all will be, in short order.

Even UUC did not get the "EmPower" wheel design on the website for four days, a mistake we'll not make again.


If I am wrong and you just didn't know the deal even after you
talked to the manufacturer, I would be happy to remove my post or this
whole thread that is unfairly stealing our preorders that are necessary
for us to bring projects like this to market.

The smart thing would have been to ask. My number is public. You really thought it was a good idea to stew on this for three days and it never entered your mind to ask before making such an inflammatory post?

Out of respect only for Tom at D-Force, we have increased our advertised price to the MAP. And you want your 30-day "jump start" to recoup your "huge mould costs"? Again, out of respect for Tom and to get you off of his phone every 10 minutes, we'll make things easier for him and acknowledge that.

So yes, not only should you retract your post, a big man would apologize for acting much smaller than he is.


Since you are such a big fan of quotes - try this one on. "The
thing about business ethics is..." Why do I think this is not the
first time I have offered this one to you?

You are questioning my ethics? Please - ask anybody you like (assuming not your buddies who have literally stolen from me in the past). If my word isn't worth it's weight in gold, then I'll quit the business. You won't find a single customer, dealer, or other business contact that say anything worse than "they used to be backordered on parts from time to time."

You stole that quote when one of your competitors said it about one of the manufacturers you still represent. Now you're also a reseller for copied quotes?

UUC is and always has been primarily a manufacturer and distributor of only our own products and those that we co-develop with specialty manufacturers. You will find very little "off the shelf" in the UUC catalog, it's the big-name race teams, tuners, and performance component distributors that buy from us.

So you want to make such a big stink about a $100 wheel? That's your priority.

Those are figures from the manufacturer. "You" are deciding on the weight? Please, James... you're no wheel engineer. The manufacturer decides the balance between design and minimized weight, you don't just pick a number out of the air - it's not "Let's Make a Deal" here.

when spec'ing out a wheel for a particular market (like spec e30), width and diameter arent the only considerations...spec e30 wheels have a minimum weight...the person spec'ing them can say they need to weigh at least x pounds and the manufacturer can make sure it does...so the manufacturer doesnt always decide the weight of the wheels they make...

d-force may be able to make the wheel lighter but what's the point if it won't be legal for it's intended market?

it doesnt take a "wheel engineer" to spec out a wheel...do "you" know for a fact that James did not spec out the wheel, including the weight (as you are implying)?

when spec'ing out a wheel for a particular market (like spec e30), width and diameter arent the only considerations...spec e30 wheels have a minimum weight...the person spec'ing can them say they need to weigh at least x pounds and the manufacturer can make sure it does...so the manufacturer doesnt always decide the weight of the wheels they make...

d-force may be able to make the wheel lighter but what's the point if it won't be legal for it's intended market?

it doesnt take a "wheel engineer" to spec out a wheel...do "you" know for a fact that James did not spec out the wheel, including the weight (as you are implying)?

I appreciate what you are saying, but yes, actually, I do know from having discussed it with D-Force. The manufacturing design goal with D-Force was to lighten that particular 15" design below how it was previously offered in other fitments.

- Rob

those bronze ones are nice, id be all over these if they were 16 or 17"

so are the spokes concave or flat?

i think it was asked like 3 times and i dont think its been answered.

so are the spokes concave or flat?

Each individual spoke is flat in the main length of it, but overall they make a slightly concave shape as they come in at the center.

This is the 17" 5-lug version, but should give you an idea:

http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/alcon/gallery/SNB10144.JPG

- Rob