First large euro GTG of 2008 in Denver.
Read all; new location for January!
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3613154

- ERik:buttrock

I should have the M coupe by then, and if i dont have to work i will be there.

Ross

I will definately try to be there. Being on a Saturday should make it no problem. The only real issue will be the wife ;)...... she doesn't like being left at home with the kid, and she doesn't like going to events either, so she always gives me the guilt trip.

I will definately try to be there. Being on a Saturday should make it no problem. The only real issue will be the wife ;)...... she doesn't like being left at home with the kid, and she doesn't like going to events either, so she always gives me the guilt trip.


God damn, when and if i ever get married, my wife will have to be cool with going to car meets. Bring the kid! When i was a kid i loved going to watch my dad race and go with him to car meets and such.

I will be there...

I will definately try to be there. Being on a Saturday should make it no problem. The only real issue will be the wife ;)...... she doesn't like being left at home with the kid, and she doesn't like going to events either, so she always gives me the guilt trip.

huh??:nono(the woman) fuck marriage but count me in if im not called in to work
:lol

we'll be there, we missed the dinner last friday, so we'll be there for sure!

Since it is 6 to a lane on bowling. Are you guys:
honda954racer03
MARKSS
Rosspbig
TheVic
Robengrat



Going to be there for bowling? If you wanna do the bimmerforums people on 1 lane that be cool I think. Need 1 more person if you guys are staying for bowling.

Unless I have to work I am in for sure. One of my buddys will probably come with too. Or maybe ill find a new girl who wants to come along haha. who knows.

Since it is 6 to a lane on bowling. Are you guys:
honda954racer03
MARKSS
Rosspbig
TheVic
Robengrat



Going to be there for bowling? If you wanna do the bimmerforums people on 1 lane that be cool I think. Need 1 more person if you guys are staying for bowling.

I might stay for bowling.... depends on if I bring my daughter or not. She's not really old enough to bowl. But I decided it is time to get her interested in cars like daddy.
BTW she's 2 1/2.

I might stay for bowling.... depends on if I bring my daughter or not. She's not really old enough to bowl. But I decided it is time to get her interested in cars like daddy.
BTW she's 2 1/2.

Very nice... http://m3forum.net/m3forum/images/smilies/thumbsup2.gif

Hopefully the weather will be good so I can throw my summer wheels/tires back on. The winters don't compliment the ///M at all, and they're loud and rough.(feels like I'm driving a 4x4).

Hopefully the weather will be good so I can throw my summer wheels/tires back on. The winters don't compliment the ///M at all, and they're loud and rough.(feels like I'm driving a 4x4).

Haha yeah...I am putting mine back on sunday for the Photoshoot :buttrock

For some reason, steelies and a 6" sidwall doesn't look too good :shrug:

at least the six inch sidewall closes up some of that wheel gap on that monster truck.

at least the six inch sidewall closes up some of that wheel gap on that monster truck.

Not really...The other ones are same diameter overall. But my other tires are like 5CM wider so they fill the space better than these skinny fucks.

I know, I just wanted to pick on you because I couldnt make it to the shoot and I am jealous.

I know, I just wanted to pick on you because I couldnt make it to the shoot and I am jealous.

Swirley...The shoot is today

Since it is 6 to a lane on bowling. Are you guys:
honda954racer03
MARKSS
Rosspbig
TheVic
Robengrat



Going to be there for bowling? If you wanna do the bimmerforums people on 1 lane that be cool I think. Need 1 more person if you guys are staying for bowling.

missed the shoot:( but Im definitely gunna try for the 26th, Im on call 24/7 so I never really know

I had to work a 24 hour shift today and am currently still at work. I wanted to come up, but unfortunately I had no choice in the matter.

Put me down as a possible attendee...

Ill have to wait for more up to date weather reports before driving 3.5+ hours...

Put me down as a possible attendee...

Ill have to wait for more up to date weather reports before driving 3.5+ hours...


Chris
88 325ix


BS!!

BS!!

I know I can make it down just fine...;)
It is the "Others" that I worry about...:mad

Bump for a reminder!

- Erik

Not gonna be able to hit this one up. I'll be at the Feb. one when its on a Sunday.

I had to work a 24 hour shift today and am currently still at work. I wanted to come up, but unfortunately I had no choice in the matter.

Damn, Kevlar must be pissed at you! You've been in TO for like 3 days!

Ok i got my 2007 M coupe today! I am so happy! Anyways it does not look like i will have to work so Ill be there:buttrock:alright

Post pics immediately.

Markss, we should roll up together.. I am going to try and make this one since I missed december. I will also try to rustle up some other people to go with us as well.

Markss, we should roll up together.. I am going to try and make this one since I missed december. I will also try to rustle up some other people to go with us as well.


Dooooo Eeeeeeeeeet!!!!:buttrock

Gratuitous new interior pic

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z279/pswirley/christmas07025.jpg

Post pics immediately.

I will the next nice day we have in boulder, with dry roads:(

Gratuitous new interior pic

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z279/pswirley/christmas07025.jpg


The florescent green was way better!


iKid iKid

The florescent green was way better!


iKid iKid


SHHH what fluorescent green, I dont know what you are talking about.

Markss, we should roll up together.. I am going to try and make this one since I missed december. I will also try to rustle up some other people to go with us as well.

Sounds like a plan....

I thought I wasn't going to make it, but looks like a change of plan and I will be there.

Ill be there.

I think I can actually make this one! As long as the weather is good and I can find a new right rear tire. I was out taking pics today and got a nail in the side wall!

Not sure I can make it. My last speeding ticket is cramping my style a bit.

Not sure I can make it. My last speeding ticket is cramping my style a bit.

Don't let the man keep you down.

Don't let the man keep you down.

That's right.............

STICK IT TO THE MAN :pullover:finger22

oh man, i'm glad i got on here to check, i completly thought it was this sunday! i was wwwwwaaayyyy wrong..... anywho, see you guys next saturday! :) are we going to cruise after bowling?

Don't let the man keep you down.

The man in this case is the community service I need to serve. Not much way around it - I'll be done at like 3:30 in the afternoon, probably too late to get in on any fun.

It's only a couple weekends. Meh.

The man in this case is the community service I need to serve. Not much way around it - I'll be done at like 3:30 in the afternoon, probably too late to get in on any fun.

It's only a couple weekends. Meh.

COMMUNITY SERVICE!!??

My God, how fast were you going?:eek:

Fast. haha.

More than doubling the limit... and it was a highway.

I narrowly escaped the man tonight. Spinning some donuts in a parking lot (snow is getting deep!), see Mr. Law coming in one way so I made my escape out the other entrance before he hit his lights :D.

So who is coming for sure? Add me as for sure attending.

The event organizer hasn't been online in over a week, so the official count of RSVPs is off a bit I'm sure. As of a week ago it was ~37 for sure including those in this thread, but I doubt that's accurate anymore. Looks like a strong showing (especially with this weather) for the first one of the year!

I think there is a group coming from Cheyenne. What's the itinerary? Food, drink, hanging out?

Since we are meeting at a bowling alley, bowling has been made an option. Since its around lunch time, I'm sure some will split off for that as well. There are a few places to dine around that area, and I believe the bowling alley is next door to Rock Bottom Brewery.

Anyone from the Ft. Collins area and Cheyenne area want to roll down in force? We could meet up by Co's BMW or something and cruise down?

I'm debating on putting my summer tires and wheels on for this....

I think I'll actually be able to make this one... nice! Count me in unless I post otherwise.

Oh, random question, but do the Denver/Aurora guys know of anywhere that sells 93 octane? I've been searching and have come up empty, pun intended :(

Someone told me that they don't sell it up here because at this altitude 91 Octane ~ 93 Octane. I don't know how true that is, but I was just searching around the other day. There is quite a few places that sell 100+

Ok i got my 2007 M coupe today! I am so happy! Anyways it does not look like i will have to work so Ill be there:buttrock:alright

Pics man, pics. What color is your M Coupe?

Unless the roads are covered in snow, I'll be there.

Yeah, at our altitude 91 octane = 93 octane a mile lower. That's why our gas stations sell 91/89/87 and the lowlands get 93/91/89.

You can get higher octane gas around here though (expect to pay $$$). Check out this website for details:

High-Octane Pumps in Colorado (http://www.cosportbikeclub.org/local/highoctane.html)

HTH,
Tom

Yeah, at our altitude 91 octane = 93 octane a mile lower. That's why our gas stations sell 91/89/87 and the lowlands get 93/91/89.

You can get higher octane gas around here though (expect to pay $$$). Check out this website for details:

High-Octane Pumps in Colorado (http://www.cosportbikeclub.org/local/highoctane.html)

HTH,
Tom

Thanks Tom. Have you had any experience with software tuned for 93 at sea level being run on 91 octane at altitude? I want to make sure I can safely run 91 without the timing retarding, otherwise the gains I'd get would be negated and I'd be better off with tuning for 91... anything helps.

I was going to come up for this but I have too much going on this weekend trying to clear out of the military. I am running out of time and have a feeling I should be saving some money with the slipping economy/job market. It sounds fun and I hope you all have a great time.

The man in this case is the community service I need to serve. Not much way around it - I'll be done at like 3:30 in the afternoon, probably too late to get in on any fun.

It's only a couple weekends. Meh.

I was going to say I could give you a ride but damn you in lock down tell 3:30 that sucks. I Know what you are going through man I was in the exact same situation a couple years ago.

Pics man, pics. What color is your M Coupe?

Unless the roads are covered in snow, I'll be there.


My M coupe is black:redspot I have not had a chance to take pictures of it yet due to weather and crazy work schedule. I will see you all on the meet on saturday, It looks like it is going to be a nice day:buttrock

Thanks Tom. Have you had any experience with software tuned for 93 at sea level being run on 91 octane at altitude? I want to make sure I can safely run 91 without the timing retarding, otherwise the gains I'd get would be negated and I'd be better off with tuning for 91... anything helps.

Cool subject, David...

First some nerd science!: The octane rating of fuel tells you it's anti-detonation or auto-ignition (antiknock) resistance characteristics. Higher octane fuel burns slower and is less volatile (less likely to auto-ignite) than lower octane fuel. Regular gasoline is commonly cited to auto-ignite at 495 deg F, which intuitively seems rather high given that paper auto-ignites at 451 deg F - thus the famous book title... Anywayz, if the air pressure decreases or the oxygen concentration decreases (we have both occurring due to our altitude, though the oxygen concentration is the more important factor once we compress the air in our combustion chambers), the temperature the gasoline will auto-ignite at goes higher. Because of this direct relationship with pressure and oxygen content, the octane rating can also be viewed as indicating the pressure the fuel will auto-ignite at. Viewed this way, higher octane fuel can withstand a higher pressure (compression ratio) before it will auto-ignite. Higher combustion pressure provides higher performance (more power), thus why higher octane fuels are needed in these applications. :confused

It's my understanding is that 91 octane at our altitude (lower oxygen content) is factored to give a similar auto-ignition temperature (and knock-resistance) as 93 octane at sea level (higher oxygen concentration). Viewed from the pressure standpoint, at our altitude, 91 octane can stand the same combustion pressure without detonating as 93 octane can at sea level (again, due to the lower oxygen content in given volume of air). Stated yet another way, the combustion speed/flame front would travel at the same rates with 91 octane and our air as with 93 octane and sea level air.

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Our engine ignitions are timed to have a max advance (at operating revs) just shy of where the engine will knock, or auto-ignite the fuel, without/before a sparkplug fires. On my 02, for example, with it's simple mechanical advance ignition, running 93 octane at sea-level (N'awlins) my max advance was set to 34deg. Here in Denver, running 91 octane, it still turns out my max advance is 34deg. I'd knock in N'awlins with 91.

Modern engine management systems/software, which use MAF sensors, knock sensors and such to ensure optimal air-fuel ratios and ignition timing should be able to auto-adjust to the altitude and octane of our fuel here. If, in setting an aftermarket system up, it has specs for 93 octane fuel at sea-level, I believe you can correlate that to 91 octane here. (93 here would be like 95 octane at sea level). If you plan to always run 93, 100, or even 110 octane in your engine here, I guess you could set the engine management software adjustments/spec for that, likely increasing your ignition advance timing, and try to extract more power - but you'd detonate/knock/ping (and less than optimal performance) if you ever tried to or had to run 'normal' 91 high-test gas with that set-up.

HTH. Pardon the long-winded reply. (I'm an engineer :help :drink3).

Tom

Lol, David, you need some help man? You might need a night off from studying to understand all of that. :stickoutt J/K

Cool stuff Visionaut.

Tom, that is exactly the info I was looking for! Thanks again, I appreciate the long-winded reply. Replies like that let me know when people actually know what they're talking about, especially since I had a general idea of how it all worked already. You're an engineer? Even better :).

Pics man, pics. What color is your M Coupe?

Unless the roads are covered in snow, I'll be there.


So...Did you pick up the slicks :evil2

so Im confused whats going on, is it a barbeque a bowling or a euro import show?

so Im confused whats going on, is it a barbeque a bowling or a euro import show?


It's a meet and greet from like 11:45-12:30 then I guess whoever wants to go get lunch does that and whoever wants to go bowling goes bowling. Maybe there will be a drive IDK.

So...Did you pick up the slicks :evil2

No it was a gracious offer, but those would have been a death sentence in the cold with my Michelins up front.

I think I'm going to pick that pair of General Exclaims from the guy you referred me to. The Pilot Sports he had are a little too small. I might be trading my wheels for a pair of BBS RKs :devillook in which case I'll have to find some matching Pilot Sports. I should probably figure this out before Saturday though!!

No it was a gracious offer, but those would have been a death sentence in the cold with my Michelins up front.

I think I'm going to pick that pair of General Exclaims from the guy you referred me to. The Pilot Sports he had are a little too small. I might be trading my wheels for a pair of BBS RKs :devillook in which case I'll have to find some matching Pilot Sports. I should probably figure this out before Saturday though!!

Yeah man, I really hope to see you there.

Cheyenne guys....is anyone going? Mike, Dave?

Anyone else putting their summer wheels back on for this?!

Tyler...where are you?!!!

Should be there for a little bit. Probably stay around long enough to eat, but then I will have to roll bounce after that.

See you guys there tomorrow.

is there gonna be anybody there at 5pm sharp by chance? lol

Be there at noonish, can stay till about 3pm.

See everyone there, even with my new power steering leak :mad.

gay once again i cant make it duty calls, i need a better job

Hey all, sorry I missed out, I got caught up with other obligations... post pics of the event once you have them! I've gotta see the new z4m

I should have some pictures of my new M up today.....

Here are some pictures......

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2144/2219548415_b50bf95b0e_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2224/2220341860_a6c82ae547_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2176/2219859632_451e9bb6a1_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2207/2219559223_f53a68596a_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2310/2219548551_48382b5d0d_o.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a231/Rosspbig/IMG_7980copynew.jpg

Not from the Meet but whatever.

Nice looking M man. Those things are really growing on me!

Nice meeting you guys today...

Glad you guys had fun, I was doing this instead.

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z279/pswirley/newwheels002.jpg

pretty good turn out today guys. it was good talking to all of you. sorry we split kinda early, that sun was great, but that wind was getting chilly. looking forward to the next one, hopefully it's a little warmer!

Glad you guys had fun, I was doing this instead.

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z279/pswirley/newwheels002.jpg

Hmmm.... I thought you were busy clearing???? :confused

(thought that was kinda fishy since you can't do jack with the Army stuff on Saturday)

the wheels are nice though

Great meeting all you guys today, although I think I got there too late to meet the contingent that was bowling. I should have some pics up tomorrow.

Im not clearing today, but I do have to start saving my money. Someone paid me 50 dollars to put those wheels on in a CL deal gone horribly good for me. I sold my 17" Enkeis for 350 and bought those 18" Style 67 reps for 300. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Then I went inside and finished sorting, washing, cleaning, painting, and fixing all of my equipment for CIF turn in on Monday. I wasnt lying Mark, I just got sidetracked by a great deal.

Im not clearing today, but I do have to start saving my money. Someone paid me 50 dollars to put those wheels on in a CL deal gone horribly good for me. I sold my 17" Enkeis for 350 and bought those 18" Style 67 reps for 300. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Then I went inside and finished sorting, washing, cleaning, painting, and fixing all of my equipment for CIF turn in on Monday. I wasnt lying Mark, I just got sidetracked by a great deal.

It's all good....

It just would have been nice to see someone there that I actually knew.

Sorry I wasn't too social today, nice to see a bunch of bimmers showed up though. Hopefully next time there isn't a line at the car wash and I'll show up with a clean car :).

It's all good....

It just would have been nice to see someone there that I actually knew.

I contributed to that... sorry man, I intended to come but something came up :(.

Wish I could have shown up gents...not feeling too social either. Especially with lack of Cheyenne crew to roll down with and winter wheels on. I'll be hitting this up more as it gets warmer though!!

Here's pics from the event:

http://www.union1609.com/showthread.php?t=814&page=2

It was great meeting everyone, I'll try to make it out for the next one.

Nice pics Ross. This is my favorite:

Here are some pictures.....
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a231/Rosspbig/IMG_7980copynew.jpg


You need to take one like this:

http://inlinethumb60.webshots.com/35259/2378962190048716486S600x600Q85.jpg


Black Saphire Metallic if done in HDR on a cloudy day will give it the perfect cover to blend the engine and hood.

My pics from the GTG were horrible - commically bad. I thought I could compensate for the bleached mid-day light and poor background through HDR and clone stamping, but I was wrong. Example:

http://inlinethumb49.webshots.com/24560/2100283890048716486S600x600Q85.jpg

Once you get your Coupe broken in and the weather gets a little nicer we'll have to go rally up in the Moutains.

Cheers

It was great meeting everyone, I'll try to make it out for the next one.

Nice pics Ross. This is my favorite:



You need to take one like this:

http://inlinethumb60.webshots.com/35259/2378962190048716486S600x600Q85.jpg


Black Saphire Metallic if done in HDR on a cloudy day will give it the perfect cover to blend the engine and hood.

My pics from the GTG were horrible - commically bad. I thought I could compensate for the bleached mid-day light and poor background through HDR and clone stamping, but I was wrong. Example:

http://inlinethumb49.webshots.com/24560/2100283890048716486S600x600Q85.jpg

Once you get your Coupe broken in and the weather gets a little nicer we'll have to go rally up in the Moutains.

Cheers

Hell yeah I cant wait! only 450 more miles to go on the break in:redspot:buttrock

I wasn't feeling too social either. Too much fun the night before. However, it was nice seeing all the cars!