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Rickysbmw320i 12-31-2007, 04:25 AM I was driving around in the 323i and got myself thinking about what people hate/love about there cars. Specifically the people who put so much into them. you know who you are.
You MUST say 3 things for hate and love, i guess i will start...
LOVE:
Most solid car ive ever driven
out performs most cars on the road
very dependable ( knock on wood)
HATE:
The color ( its growing on me)
The bits of rust
The fact i have to smog it every two years:devillook
Love:
Little pocket rocket lol
how light it is
how easy they are to work on
Hate:
Rust
Body roll
avaiblility of aftermarket parts.
Big John 12-31-2007, 04:41 AM LOVE:
It reminds me of driving a Go-Kart
Body Rolls like buggery but somehow traction remains intact?!
Best built car I know of that my family has ever had
Hate:
I can only beat the "Sports car drivers" down the mountain road, not up it
It scares the hell outta me in fresh rain. One second we're driving, the next the tails out at 50°
Scarcity of parts for 4cyl E21's in Australia.
:) The E21 Movement is on...
autox320 12-31-2007, 04:53 AM haha yes reminds me of driving a large go-kart
how sick it sounds when built for a 4cyl with dynomax bullets
the stares after a fast autox run
-the little things are getting too old, electrical wire harness, ignition key switch etc
-blank looks from other bmw owners trying to figure out what car it is
-driving it in the rain is scary lol
320 bimmer 12-31-2007, 06:15 AM love:
stupid fun in the rain
best looking car at my school
chicks dig it :D
hate:
lots of minor problems
always has something wrong with it
the seat doesn't do back far enough
DrewDude320i 12-31-2007, 06:26 AM Love:
- That this car is hotter than my girlfriend (who is pretty damn attractive, if i do say so myself)
- Small + Light = Traffic Weave!
- I-4 fuel economy, without the Civic trash sound
Hate:
- K-Jet
- Expensive Parts
- Little things (or big things) always break
Rickysbmw320i 12-31-2007, 06:30 AM Love:
- That this car is hotter than my girlfriend (who is pretty damn attractive, if i do say so myself)
- Small + Light = Traffic Weave!
- I-4 fuel economy, without the Civic trash sound
Hate:
- K-Jet
- Expensive Parts
- Little things (or big things) always break
:rofl
:needpics
:shifty
uberpanzer 12-31-2007, 06:55 AM Love:
1. How raw the car is. It's just the road, the car and me. No ABS, no Power Steering, nothing to get in between me and the road feel.
2. The classic BMW styling, which has so much more character than the later 3 Series cars (e36 and e46 are just so blah).
3. The fact that with what little I had put into the car (and all that I had removed) I was running circles around newer BMW's at the local CCA autoX events that had thousands of dollars in mods into them AFTER purchase price. ....and I was still leaning like a mo-fo.
Hate:
1. The lack of weight in the front (well, the rear too I guess) has actually lifted the car, since I'm still on stock suspension. And that doesn't help the leaning issues. (Coil-overs will fix this. :D )
2. The trunk lock only like ONE of the keys I have for the car, not the other. WTF!?!?
3. Every time I take it to the autoX, something else breaks. ...or maybe that's MY fault, not the car's....NAH!!!!
Red Ribbon Army 12-31-2007, 12:26 PM Love
Road Feel
Low Weight
Sharky look
Hate
How awfully slow it is
Stock Seats :shifty
My stereo system in it
adamalexander 12-31-2007, 01:37 PM Love:
road feel
that I can roll down the passenger window w/barely leaning over in the driver's seat
overall mechanical simplicity
Hate:
struggling up steep hills on the highway
rear drums (I always seem to walk away with at least one bloody knuckle when working on drums)
rust
Layne 12-31-2007, 02:35 PM Love:
Simplicity
Size
Fun
Hate:
Cheesy interior fittings
The body is a little too flexible
Owning an M635 makes it feel like a rubber band powered toy
Hey Drew, is this the crazy chick that was screaming and scratching you to death a few weeks ago?
gabmwdrvr 12-31-2007, 02:44 PM Love:
Color
Styling
How it drives/handles (simple and light weight)
Hate:
Stock seats
Lack of power
All those worn parts I'm slowly replacing (though I love working on it)
tlapham 12-31-2007, 02:44 PM love:
starts every time
the big grin i get every time I round a corner
playing in the rain
Hate:
the dents
uncomfortable to sleep in
How crazy things end up happening to it
uberpanzer 12-31-2007, 02:52 PM ....I don't know what this lack of power thing is you all keep talking about. :stickoutt
busemans 12-31-2007, 03:16 PM love
no unneeded crap in the car
4 cylinder engine
rarity of car
hate
weird tranny whining sound
stupid blower motor bushings
warm up regulators
djminkin 12-31-2007, 04:15 PM Love
It was my first car
styling
overall driving experience
Hate
horrible resale value and collectibility factor outside of a hardcore fan base
no a/c
hard to get them dialed in perfectly like newer cars
DrewDude320i 12-31-2007, 04:43 PM Hey Drew, is this the crazy chick that was screaming and scratching you to death a few weeks ago?
No. Hell no. She's long gone. The girl i'm dating right now, however, is an ass, i'll probably break up with her soon.
Euro320iRacer 12-31-2007, 05:11 PM Love:
Fun to drive
Easy to fix
Good gas mileage
Hate:
Hard to find aftermarket parts
Rust!!!
Kinda small inside for tall people
E21FZRNU 12-31-2007, 05:12 PM The perfect balance between economy and sports car feel.
Any part I need is sitting at the pick and pull right now if I need it, dirt cheap to own and fix
Excellent performance potential.
If I wreck it, I can pick up another for a grand.
I hardly ever see anybody else driving them, which proves I'm smarter than most people.;):D
I don't hate anything, these cars rule.
fullswing 12-31-2007, 05:48 PM love:
easy to work on
road feel
cheap to replace stock parts with used ones
hate:
not enough driving time to date... 5 hours over 2 years sucks
... hmm, that's about it...
sonomaGTLN2 12-31-2007, 06:33 PM love:
-oldschool styling
-german exchange students telling me to restore it and not to autocross it
-handling after the GC/Bilstein setup.
hate:
-tendency to stall after turning left
-5th gear being gone
-cracks in the dash!
TheBestCow 12-31-2007, 07:36 PM Love:
-styling -- so classic
-"rare" -- you don't see a lot of solid examples down my way
-size -- as someone mentioned, they are nimble, light, and you can open the passenger window without leaning too hard
Hate:
-10,000 mile suspension components
-rust
-?
electrostar 12-31-2007, 09:28 PM LOVE:
Great handling
Easy to work on
Great looks
HATE:
Freakin Hazard switch!
Something else always breaks when you fix something
4 cyl engine (Soon to be replaced by 2.3 six... )
BoomerDJ 12-31-2007, 10:53 PM love:
style
ease to work on and learn
freakin most fun car i have ever driven
hate:
electrical
my gas millage(needs to be properly tuned)
finding after market parts
Anton3 12-31-2007, 11:34 PM Love
Still enjoy the road feel - driven for 25+ years now.
Rare - Don't see too many e21's around - new BMW drivers stop to ask about the car
Body - Box "old school" classic lines.
Hate
Resale value, upgrade parts are worth more than the car as a whole
Power of the line
Smog Test every 2 years.
Al Canuck 01-01-2008, 01:37 AM I'll do 2 of these, because I've owned a couple 320i's, and now have a 323i. Completely different cars, IMO.
320i
Love;
-Tossability in corners
-Cheap and easy to fix(then again, so is my E32)
-More refined than my 2002's, but still very vintage feel
Hate;
-Ugliass bumpers
-Way underpowered
-Ugliass US license plate holder on the back
When I had my 320i's, I always yearned for more power, and nice bumpers. Basically, I wanted a 323i:)
323i
Love;
-Solves all the things I hated about my 320i
-Beautiful, shiny new Zinnoberrot paint
-Sexy dual exhaust
-4 wheel discs
-Right hand drive is rather cool to have in North America
-Sexy BBS wheels
-Dog leg 5 speed
-Oh wait, that was more than 3!
Hate;
-I've never driven my 323
-Its still not finished, after 2.5 years in construction
-I don't have the time to complete it
Al
AlaskaBimmer 01-01-2008, 04:14 AM I'll leave out the 320i since mine is rusted to hell....
323i Baur
Love:
1. It's an eye catcher, and being the only one in the state everyone knows the car...
2. lots of power, more torque and easy to fix as long as I have friends that are willing to help me keep it running...
3. Fun to hear at an auto-x "damn you showed up this week", I'll never get tired of WRX guys grumbling that a 27 year old BMW showed up to beat them.
Hate:
hmm...
1. my intierior is falling apart
2. my LSD is Fried
3. no power steering makes for a workout in auto-x
4. replacement Baur specific parts are pricey if you can find them...
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