View Full Version : Callaway kit on CL
E21FZRNU 12-31-2007, 01:04 AM Shoulda named it "Callaway chunks on CL" Mybad.
Thought somebody here might wanna check this out.
not affiliated
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/pts/523929898.html
Layne 12-31-2007, 02:40 AM Where's the turbo and the intake manifold?
DrewDude320i 12-31-2007, 02:47 AM it's missing the turbo and the intake manifold. JEEZE LAYNE USE YOUR EYES!!!!ONE1!
I didn't know the calloway came with an (small) inter cooler??
Layne 12-31-2007, 02:53 AM I realize it's missing. What isn't missing is the part of the price that covers those components, and the misleading word 'kit' from the title.
MFever 12-31-2007, 02:59 AM i was wondering as well as to where the turbo was.
DrewDude320i 12-31-2007, 03:10 AM I realize it's missing. What isn't missing is the part of the price that covers those components, and the misleading word 'kit' from the title.
yes i know, i was just messing with you. i emailed the guy asking how you can turbo a car without the turbo itself, to see what he says.
uberpanzer 12-31-2007, 06:41 AM Hmm...and from the crappy pic it is hard to make out if that manifold actually has ayplace to MOUNT a turbo. Looks to me like some gizmo added onto a fuel dizzy block, an intercooler of some sort grabbed from a wrecking yard, and a manifold of unknown origin and use, bundled together to get someone $700 and being called a turbo kit.
"THIS KIT WILL ALLOW YOU TO A TURBOCHARGE YOUR CIS M10 POWERED CAR AND HAVE NO WORRIES ABOUT RUNNING LEAN WHEN ON BOOST. A SIMPLE AND PROPER SOLUTION TO HAVING TO GO EFI, JUST REPLACE YOUR FUEL DISTRIBUTOR, ATTACH THE FUEL CONTROLLER AND DIAL TO PROPER ENRICHMENT."
Is this dude insane? Modified for an extra injector? So it is now feeding fuel to 6 injectors instead of 5? (remember the cold start injector)
Layne 12-31-2007, 12:23 PM He's talking about the Callaway micro-fueler. The stuff he does have appears to be legit.
uberpanzer 12-31-2007, 02:53 PM I thought the micro-fueler was mechanically acutated when you went full throttle, not boost actuated.
jays323i 12-31-2007, 08:48 PM Thats a Saab 900 turbo intercooler. Not that it matters though.
320 bimmer 12-31-2007, 09:01 PM theres a callaway manifold and t4 turbo on ebay. i have no idea if its the same seller though.
Layne 12-31-2007, 09:38 PM Thats a Saab 900 turbo intercooler. Not that it matters though.
I think thats what callaway used, at least it was very similar.
FREAKEDBYEFREAK 01-16-2008, 02:02 AM What's wrong with offering "chunks" , some don't have anything to get started and these are good parts. The extra injector controller is a SDS unit and the fuel distributor is a six cylinder unit with only four lines tapped, more fuel delivery. The hardest part about turboing these cars is getting the turbo manifold and getting enough fuel, stock intakes can be used and turbos should be matched, what if I have a stroked engine with a cam. It seems that I've come across a whole gang of turbo charging gurus , just wish you didn't have your heads up your asses.
E21FZRNU 01-16-2008, 03:06 AM Why the negative waves FREAKEDBYEFREAK? Dude called it a "Kit" in his original CL ad. It wasn't a "kit", it was chunks. I think most just had a problem with the title. Is that you 320ibimmere21? Did you get a new name?:D
BoostedE21 01-16-2008, 01:22 PM What's wrong with offering "chunks" , some don't have anything to get started and these are good parts. The extra injector controller is a SDS unit and the fuel distributor is a six cylinder unit with only four lines tapped, more fuel delivery. The hardest part about turboing these cars is getting the turbo manifold and getting enough fuel, stock intakes can be used and turbos should be matched, what if I have a stroked engine with a cam. It seems that I've come across a whole gang of turbo charging gurus , just wish you didn't have your heads up your asses.
Your kidding right?
Let me start off like like this: IF there is no turbo for this "kit" its useless otherwise unless someone already has tha kit to get a newer part in or to place a broken item, why you ask, cause the turbo manifold can only work with the Rayjet turbo cause its not your standard T3 flange and it will be a PITA to cut the other on off and place a T3 flange there.
Also, please explain to me by what you mean when you say "The extra injector controller is a SDS unit". From this you are saying (as i take it) you have a SDS system (full EFI) and have one injector hooked up to it to spray at a certin time?
Again, with out a full fit, this is useless. We dont have our heads up our asses as you put it, but rather are being real.
JTFormula 01-16-2008, 02:49 PM Ad expired!
uberpanzer 01-16-2008, 04:23 PM What's wrong with offering "chunks" , some don't have anything to get started and these are good parts. The extra injector controller is a SDS unit and the fuel distributor is a six cylinder unit with only four lines tapped, more fuel delivery. The hardest part about turboing these cars is getting the turbo manifold and getting enough fuel, stock intakes can be used and turbos should be matched, what if I have a stroked engine with a cam. It seems that I've come across a whole gang of turbo charging gurus , just wish you didn't have your heads up your asses.
There's nothing wrong with offering chunks, but the ad said "kit" and thus was misleading. A few of us on here have gotten lucky and sourced full kits, either Callaway or Century. Others have pieced their turbo systems together from hard research and basic understandings of FI and CIS.
A stroked engine with a cam is not what you want to run a turbo on. A built motor with a turbo cam would be though. The cam profiles for a stroker would be totally wrong, as would the compression ration on said stroker. CJ is running into that issue with his Reseda Green car, as the motor was built as a high compression NA motor years ago. He has a turbo kit waiting to go on a M10....once he gets one that can run boost. 10.0:1 CR with the thinner walls on his 2.1L motor just don't work well with boost.
So how do we have our heads up our asses if we are calling foul on this "kit" that is missing some very key components and doesn't EXPLAIN how you solve those fuel issues, just mentions that this is a problem with FI M10's and gives some vague intructions on enrichment? And besides, we called foul on here, not on Craig's List. Only members here saw it.
BoostedE21 01-16-2008, 05:58 PM ^ what he said.
I forgot to ad that, the FULL callaway kit was just bolted to the car with very minor, if any, adjustments to the fuel system, same thing went for the BAE kits, so you dont need to do much to the fuel system since they run low boost, something like 5-7 psi.
NOW, if you mod the "kit" to go past 10 psi, then yes, you have to have heavy modification to the full system to make it run right.
FREAKEDBYEFREAK 01-17-2008, 01:32 AM Let me preference my reaction by saying that I regularly search for good information but hardly ever come to this site because inevitably I come across a string of hogwash and speculation. Too many guys here are too quick to bad mouth and call foul without reasonable consideration.
I posted the CR ad and the pieces are excellent parts and I don't scrounge wrecking yards just to make a buck. In fact this happened before , posted a perfectly good KKK charger, wastegate and manifold on CR and finally Ebayed it, a bidder contacted me and directed me here saying that guys were thrashing it and he wanted to know what the deal was. Same thing, flapping lips with unsubstantiated BS. It sold for around $750 with positive feedback. I consider it a slight to my reputation to read this stuff. I've bought and sold turbo stuff, partial kits, kits, pieces, whatever for a couple of years and none were absolutely complete. It's almost impossible to find one complete. Either no black box or no tubing missing or something and never any instructions. So after taking the time to do the installation and then blow my bottom end, I learned that I should approach this major mod with much thought and consideration. The thing about the post is these parts are extras but at least I make them available as a Kit to some to get started. Totally legit and proper.
There is a "little" legitimacy to the complains about calling it a "kit" but Wiki says that a Kit is item sold partially assembled and it could be considered partially complete, look at Megasqurit boxes, you still need wiring, plugs and sensors. If a someone just wants to turbo his/her stock CIS injected car then you are right, a more complete "cookie cutter" setup is what they would want but, the word "turbocharging", in the minds of most, means ungodly power and that is always going to have it's challenges. Those who have done some research and testing will always want to make some upgrades to those old tuner systems. 5-7 lbs, Ha, you can't tell me that any of you don't want to make S14's look silly and at haft the cost.
I can't post a pic of the fuel dizzy but do some research as I did but here's a link to SDS. It's no broken full management controller, you need to get a clue.
Let me preference my reaction by saying that I regularly search for good information but hardly ever come to this site because inevitably I come across a string of hogwash and speculation. Too many guys here are too quick to bad mouth and call foul without reasonable consideration.
I posted the CR ad and the pieces are excellent parts and I don't scrounge wrecking yards just to make a buck. In fact this happened before , posted a perfectly good KKK charger, wastegate and manifold on CR and finally Ebayed it, a bidder contacted me and directed me here saying that guys were thrashing it and he wanted to know what the deal was. Same thing, flapping lips with unsubstantiated BS. It sold for around $750 with positive feedback. I consider it a slight to my reputation to read this stuff. I've bought and sold turbo stuff, partial kits, kits, pieces, whatever for a couple of years and none were absolutely complete. It's almost impossible to find one complete. Either no black box or no tubing missing or something and never any instructions. So after taking the time to do the installation and then blow my bottom end, I learned that I should approach this major mod with much thought and consideration. The thing about the post is these parts are extras but at least I make them available as a Kit to some to get started. Totally legit and proper.
There is a "little" legitimacy to the complains about calling it a "kit" but Wiki says that a Kit is item sold partially assembled and it could be considered partially complete, look at Megasqurit boxes, you still need wiring, plugs and sensors. If a someone just wants to turbo his/her stock CIS injected car then you are right, a more complete "cookie cutter" setup is what they would want but, the word "turbocharging", in the minds of most, means ungodly power and that is always going to have it's challenges. Those who have done some research and testing will always want to make some upgrades to those old tuner systems. 5-7 lbs, Ha, you can't tell me that any of you don't want to make S14's look silly and at haft the cost.
I can't post a pic of the fuel dizzy or add a link, but go to SDS, sdsefi.com/eic. It's no broken full management controller, you need to get a clue.
E21FZRNU 01-17-2008, 01:53 AM Yo Jim, no offense meant.
FREAKEDBYEFREAK 01-17-2008, 02:35 AM Yeah, but MY first reaction is to offer SOMETHING rather than bash, like you did. These board are meant to be a small group of like minded folk sharing stuff, ie Craigslist. It ashame to say but Ebaying has become a lot more serious place to pass on things you spend time gathering and collecting.
E21FZRNU 01-17-2008, 03:43 AM Yeah I didn't bash anybody, I put the title up as "kit" like the ad said, then got corrected 'cause there was no turbo or down pipe. So I called it "chunks". Excuse me, my bad again. I am sure they are really good parts.
BoostedE21 01-17-2008, 01:11 PM Can you post the pics that were in ad again?
I personally dont care what its called, saying we have our "heads up our asses" was stupid to say. Who cares if we say its not a kit, its true that "kit" means its items to get you started, but the kit is missing 2 key items.
You said mega-squirt still require you to get additional things, but the most important parts are there.
Anyways, who cares, we werent talking shit on you.
jrcook320 01-17-2008, 02:15 PM A stroked engine with a cam is not what you want to run a turbo on. A built motor with a turbo cam would be though. The cam profiles for a stroker would be totally wrong, as would the compression ration on said stroker. CJ is running into that issue with his Reseda Green car, as the motor was built as a high compression NA motor years ago. He has a turbo kit waiting to go on a M10....once he gets one that can run boost. 10.0:1 CR with the thinner walls on his 2.1L motor just don't work well with boost.
So how do we have our heads up our asses if we are calling foul on this "kit" that is missing some very key components and doesn't EXPLAIN how you solve those fuel issues, just mentions that this is a problem with FI M10's and gives some vague intructions on enrichment? And besides, we called foul on here, not on Craig's List. Only members here saw it.
that fact that a motor is a stroker has nothing to do with the cam profile of the motor, and vice versa, so to say that the cam profiles for a stroker would be wrong for a turbo is not true. That fact that CJ's motor being a high CR na motor not being good for a turbo is true. I assure you at 2.1L his cylinder walls aren't too thing to run 20 lbs of boost, let alone the ~10 that he'll get out of his BAE kit.
CJ needs to get off his butt, buy some nice 8.5:1 JE's and a turbo grind cam and slap that kit on there.
Also, people calling foul on this thing being called a kit is retarded. The seller didn't try to pull the wool over anyone's eyes, he sold components of a kit that could be the missing parts to someone's system out there. It's also not his responsibility to explain how to use it or to solve your fueling issues. That is up to you as a buyer to figure out if a 25 year old hotrod part will work for your application. Just because he has teh parts and wants to sell them to someone that could use them doesn't require him to be at expert.
blitzed310 01-17-2008, 02:25 PM that fact that a motor is a stroker has nothing to do with the cam profile of the motor, and vice versa, so to say that the cam profiles for a stroker would be wrong for a turbo is not true. That fact that CJ's motor being a high CR na motor not being good for a turbo is true. I assure you at 2.1L his cylinder walls aren't too thing to run 20 lbs of boost, let alone the ~10 that he'll get out of his BAE kit.
CJ needs to get off his butt, buy some nice 8.5:1 JE's and a turbo grind cam and slap that kit on there.
Its not that man I assure you. Its the fact that I know that kit wont satisfy me enough. I would rather just build another motor from scratch with EFI and a new turbo other than a RayJay. New pistons, a cam, some other odds and ends and I'm already above the 1k mark. Not to mention the kit tubing is designed for the 1.8L engine, and not the 2.0L.
I have made it my goal to not dick around on funds and save diligently for a house. I have cut down allot on hobby money for the time. Just thinking about this makes me anxious.
sil0kin 01-17-2008, 02:40 PM you guys keep dealing with mega squirt i see...want to make some real power, go real standalone,....i have 1 for sale :-p hahha its a DTA unit, p80 Pro, good for 4-6- and 8 cylinder motors!! very good unit! made 930hp in a vr gti!!
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