at work one of my supervisors owns a 06 G35 6spd and i have asked to race him a few times. he's always has talkeds shit and we were never able to line up... Until this morning, he started testing me, so i asked if he wanted to run them this morning. well to my astonishment he was.

rirst we passed by making sure no one what on the road, and turned around. we started rolling in first (about 3k on my tac) i honk it 3 times then take off, slightly pulling about a 1/4 car at the end of first, continuing to pull in second to about a little over a car. and third gear pulled about another car and fourth smeemed to be almost even with me pulling slightly. we ended up cutting it off at 130 on the speedo

we pulled over and talked for a bit, he kept telling me i must be lying about how fast my car is. o yeah and i scaled the CL to his judgement too, he said i had him by at-lest 2.5 cars.

i was pretty pumped and disappointed at the same time. M52 ftw

o and i can get pics of the cars together to. and i have no reason to lie so do not come on here and flame. it was a legit race with 3 honks.

also sorry for run ons and spelling and punctuation

also sorry for run ons and spelling and punctuation

:nono

Was his an auto? the G should have been faster, but that just makes the win that much better

:nono

Was his an auto? the G should have been faster, but that just makes the win that much better

no it was a 6spd 2 door. also it did not have the brembo brakes

Whats your mods?

it did not have the brembo brakes

Yeah, those brembos shave about a second off the 0 - 60 time.:stickoutt

Whats your mods?

M50, intake, shark injector, FDM

Yeah, those brembos shave about a second off the 0 - 60 time.:stickoutt
the only reason i posted that was because i know the 350Z with the brembos means it has the track package. witch is 15hp i believe.

Ruh Roh,... where's my jiffy pop?

Man, I always wanted to race a G35 and it never get lucky. I just want to spank one because most of the onwners are sooooo cocky.

glad to see my old car kicking arse

Oh no.. here it comes. You can't post anything about beating G35/350Z's on this board. All rational thought goes out the window. I beat a 350Z once, but I didn't have video and a verbal commitment that the driver was actually racing, so any results were null and void.

Good kill though, I believe it. The only 350 I ever raced was not as fast as I thought.. I was able to pull a length (maybe more) in my e34. Must have been a defective Z :rolleyes


OP: any dyno numbers on your car?

lol

Oh no.. here it comes. You can't post anything about beating G35/350Z's on this board. All rational thought goes out the window. I beat a 350Z once, but I didn't have video and a verbal commitment that the driver was actually racing, so any results were null and void.

Good kill though, I believe it. The only 350 I ever raced was not as fast as I thought.. I was able to pull a length (maybe more) in my e34. Must have been a defective Z

Oh no.. here it comes. You can't post anything about beating G35/350Z's on this board. All rational thought goes out the window. I beat a 350Z once, but I didn't have video and a verbal commitment that the driver was actually racing, so any results were null and void.


Dude, u realize 328 is not the same as 540/6 right?

Good kill man ;)

no it was a 6spd 2 door. also it did not have the brembo brakes
hmm, i thought the gold brembos signified 6spd on the g35s? no brembos, no manual. i could be wrong though.

good kill, though i'm sure you know the results are not normal, or to be expected. your co-worker probably is a bad driver to be quite frank.

Oh no.. here it comes. You can't post anything about beating G35/350Z's on this board. All rational thought goes out the window. I beat a 350Z once, but I didn't have video and a verbal commitment that the driver was actually racing, so any results were null and void.

Good kill though, I believe it. The only 350 I ever raced was not as fast as I thought.. I was able to pull a length (maybe more) in my e34. Must have been a defective Z :rolleyes


OP: any dyno numbers on your car?

nope hopefully soon tho.

Dude, u realize 328 is not the same as 540/6 right?

the popular notion around here is that 540's cannot beat 350z's unless they're supercharged 540's.

When a story of a modd'd 328 beating a VQ35 car comes up it's immediately known that the VQ35 driver wasn't trying. Where's the BS flag.?

Don't you know those G35's can run 12's.



:shifty

the popular notion around here is that 540's cannot beat 350z's...


Or can they? I mean it's prolly neck n neck to some point, up top 540 might have a slight advantage

Man, I always wanted to race a G35 and it never get lucky. I just want to spank one because most of the onwners are sooooo cocky.
Totally unlike 335 owners :rolleyes

Totally unlike 335 owners :rolleyes

335s do wonders with their 300hp (tho I think they are underrated)

335s do wonders with their 300hp (tho I think they are underrated)

They are underrated.. they dyno stock @ 280rwhp and equal or more torque...

good kill!

Or can they? I mean it's prolly neck n neck to some point, up top 540 might have a slight advantage

ya no doubt. many 540 guys have experienced some sort of run-in with a G35, 350z, or 3.5 Max or Altima and beat them.

I've personally beat 3.5VQ Max's. One was an earlier 6spd model which were very light...barely weigh more than a 350z at 3300 - 3400lbs. And it was modd'd too (what mod's I dunno). It was a short race b/c I didn't want to lose my license but I had no problem taking him. Good driver too.

small displacement V8 > big displacement V6. :evil2

flame suit on. :evil2

Man, I always wanted to race a G35 and it never get lucky. I just want to spank one because most of the onwners are sooooo cocky.

LOL!!! And 335i drivers aren't cocky? :stickoutt

hmm, i thought the gold brembos signified 6spd on the g35s? no brembos, no manual. i could be wrong though.

good kill, though i'm sure you know the results are not normal, or to be expected. your co-worker probably is a bad driver to be quite frank.

Just FYI only the 03-04 6MT's came with the brembos.

LOL!!! And 335i drivers aren't cocky?

Yes they are. lol

I know that you probably don't have any reason to lie about this, but you do realize that his car has close to 100 hp on you right?

OK wait a minute.....i posted that i beat an auto G35 in my e46 330xi and not ONE person belived it but you all dont say hardly anything about a 328is beating a 6spd G35.....

come on, pulling in every gear..... the 6MT G35s should have run a lot better than that

OK wait a minute.....i posted that i beat a auto G35 in my e46 330xi and not ONE person belived it but you all dont say hardly anything about a 328is beating a 6spd G35.....
Good Point

Idn, but 328's are pretty slow...story sounds pretty fabricated too, but honestly, who cares anymore? There's so much BS on these forums, why bother trying to dispute everything? Until recently, I just posted some stupid emoticon and said good kill b/c I know that in real life a lot of these kills wouldn't happen.

OK wait a minute.....i posted that i beat an auto G35 in my e46 330xi and not ONE person belived it but you all dont say hardly anything about a 328is beating a 6spd G35.....

come on, pulling in every gear..... the 6MT G35s should have run a lot better than that


I couldnt agree more

Hey anything can happen on the streets. more then likely a really bad driver in the G with traction control on was racing. oh and i beat SC 540's. i dont keep up with them (flame suit not on)

Hammad

could be driver error on the G35's end, an auto tranny can pretty much rule that out.

Judging by his mods and assuming he's a competent driver, if the driver of the G35 didn't know how to drive, then maybe I could see the results.

It's a stretch, be prepared to get an onslaught of BS.

Don't get too cocky though and don't expect the same results from a competent driver of a Z or G.

Its always fun seeing another thread about how people can't believe a e36 gave it to a g35.:stickoutt

I think he gave it to the driver. I would like to see some vid of him running an autotragic G35.

Its always fun seeing another thread about how people can't believe a e36 gave it to a g35.:stickoutt

considering e36s range from 140 hp to 240 hp, I don't really see your point. When you have 100 extra HP on your opponent, it makes up for a hell of a lot of driver error...

It sounds like to me that the guy in the g35 doesn't know how to drive, or has an air leak or something wrong with his car.

It sounds like to me that the guy in the g35 doesn't know how to drive, or has an air leak or something wrong with his car.

i agree somethin is not right.... I could be wrong but i think my 330 would pull on your 328, and i didnt do as much damage to an auto G35 as your claiming to have done to a G35 6MT

not saying the story is fake, just sayin there is somethin wrong with the car and/or driver

M50, intake, shark injector, FDM

The 328's mods above would add at least 10-15whp (gotta love the m50 intake manifold mod). That should be close to at least 200whp. Also the wt of a 328 is around 3100lbs. A g35 has what 280hp and is about 3,500lbs?

ANYTHING can happen on the streets. However, I dont know what some of you guys are smoking when you call a 328 "slow". Maybe bone bone bone stock with a few passengers and luggage. A few mods to a 328 and its quick, or at least quick imo.

My friend and I (both very competent drivers) had a short run together, my 328 vs his lightly modded 03 6MT and we were dead even. Due to my gearing, I have no doubt he would pull my up top (my cars done at 130 :rofl) but from a dig there was no clear winner.

You guys keep posting "100+hp more" With the mods he posted, hes looking AT LEAST 210hp with the M50 alone, plus maybe 10hp more from the rest id say, and the G has 280. 60 horses, okay, from a car thats 3400-3500 lbs, a good 300+ more than a 328. There is no ass raping that should be going on.

Plus the OP didnt state if he has gearing. Let me tell you it makes all the difference, once that crapp 2.93 open is ditched, you have a decently quick car with a few mods, stock e36 m3 material no problem.

G35's are pretty quick cars out of the box, but nothing a modded e36 cant compete with

The 328's mods above would add at least 10-15whp (gotta love the m50 intake manifold mod). That should be close to at least 200whp. Also the wt of a 328 is around 3100lbs. A g35 has what 280hp and is about 3,500lbs?

^ at least one sensible person that agrees with my logic :) any more out there?

All I know is the M52 is a very good engine and I made more then enough power in my old one to not only walk E36 M3s but G35s even easier and beat a few 350zs that had light mods :dunno

^ at least one sensible person that agrees with my logic :) any more out there?

People are sleeping on those 328's buddy. It goes to show must people dont much about other cars besides the 1's they drive. :alright Great kill on the G35.

People are sleeping on those 328's buddy. It goes to show must people dont much about other cars besides the 1's they drive. :alright Great kill on the G35.

Of course they do, its common with everybody. I almost feel like posting up a video of an UPHILL canyon run with my old 318 vs my buddy when he got his e36 m3 and isnt as good of a driver. Lookign at the stats, i should have been raped, but i kept up just fine. In fact, he crashed his M3 trying to get away from me in a goddam 318 :rofl

there is SO much dependency on the driver, and i feel this is the BIGGEST case with a manual tranny VQ powered car. There is an enormous gap for error in those cars.

Of course they do, its common with everybody. I almost feel like posting up a video of an UPHILL canyon run with my old 318 vs my buddy when he got his e36 m3 and isnt as good of a driver. Lookign at the stats, i should have been raped, but i kept up just fine. In fact, he crashed his M3 trying to get away from me in a goddam 318 :rofl

there is SO much dependency on the driver, and i feel this is the BIGGEST case with a manual tranny VQ powered car. There is an enormous gap for error in those cars.

That sucks for your friend, but i think alot of people just look at 1 thing HP and never look at the mods/wt difference. I raced e46 m3 in my old camm'd e36 m3 upto 140mph. I had him by about 2 cars, but he was carrying 2 other people in his car (i was alone). People over look way to many things.

Just FYI only the 03-04 6MT's came with the brembos.

ah ok, thanks for clearing that up for me. i always looked for the gold brembos to see if it was a manual or not, guess i can't do that anymore.

Man, I always wanted to race a G35 and it never get lucky. I just want to spank one because most of the onwners are sooooo cocky.
i know a guy with a G35, lives close to me . you wont have a chance, b/c he's TT, and dynos 440 whp. Hey, when you decide you wanna run let me know, we can organize a small meet with couple of Z/G's and BMW's, and have fun.

i know a guy with a G35, lives close to me . you wont have a chance, b/c he's TT, and dynos 440 whp. Hey, when you decide you wanna run let me know, we can organize a small meet with couple of Z/G's and BMW's, and have fun.

He wont get walked either ;), if be beaten at all. And he, I mind, has only a chip. Not a costly and an-OK reliable conversion from NA to a FI :evil2

believe me the G has a great tune, and it is reliable. at 150mph he takes off like i am i reverse. the G is fast.

i think he will get walked, due to good driver and 80whp/ approx. 60 wtq

could be driver error on the G35's end, an auto tranny can pretty much rule that out.

Judging by his mods and assuming he's a competent driver, if the driver of the G35 didn't know how to drive, then maybe I could see the results.

It's a stretch, be prepared to get an onslaught of BS.

Don't get too cocky though and don't expect the same results from a competent driver of a Z or G.
good point. by the way we need to meet up, all of us, all of the people on the forums who have been talking smack for other cars. i mean lately there has not been anything but the clash between Z/G and BMW. in my opinion, when it comes to race there are so many thing that can skew the result. so ok, good kill, now it is time to give some driving lessons. YOUR BOSS NEEDS THEM. not saying that your car is slower, a G in the hands of a good driver could have done way better.

id think youd need some serious "mods" to make over 200whp with a 328, or even 200whp. , there was like 190 stock? thats at the flywheel when there testing the motor out of a car at the factory? that means 160 or so is getting to the wheels

o and g35s are what 260? auto or not, and autos shift faster, not as effcient as a manual gear box but they shift almost instantly

owning a 328 id like to belive this story but its hard

He wont get walked either , if be beaten at all. And he, I mind, has only a chip. Not a costly and an-OK reliable conversion from NA to a FI
yes, i agree, but on the other hand 335 costs alot alot alot more than a G35, right?

How much G35 + boost? and how much 335i + Juice mods?

LOL!!! And 335i drivers aren't cocky? :stickoutt

I'm not :alright

id think youd need some serious "mods" to make over 200whp with a 328, or even 200whp. , there was like 190 stock? thats at the flywheel when there testing the motor out of a car at the factory? that means 160 or so is getting to the wheels

o and g35s are what 260? auto or not, and autos shift faster, not as effcient as a manual gear box but they shift almost instantly

owning a 328 id like to belive this story but its hard

Do a search, and see what kind of power they make with the mods this guy has then talk about how much hp it makes.....;)

id think youd need some serious "mods" to make over 200whp with a 328, or even 200whp. , there was like 190 stock? thats at the flywheel when there testing the motor out of a car at the factory? that means 160 or so is getting to the wheels

o and g35s are what 260? auto or not, and autos shift faster, not as effcient as a manual gear box but they shift almost instantly

owning a 328 id like to belive this story but its hard

It's all about how the car delivers it's power.

My car made 205whp and I managed to pull several Z's and an auto G

My car made 253/268 to the wheels, but I was told there is no way my car would be faster than a Z/G. I believe the OP's car is probably making over 200 to the wheels.. but it really does depend on the driver. I'd like to run a Z in the Atl area to see what will really happen

id think youd need some serious "mods" to make over 200whp with a 328, or even 200whp. , there was like 190 stock? thats at the flywheel when there testing the motor out of a car at the factory? that means 160 or so is getting to the wheels

o and g35s are what 260? auto or not, and autos shift faster, not as effcient as a manual gear box but they shift almost instantly

owning a 328 id like to belive this story but its hard

Not really... I made well over 200rwhp with mine and the most "serious" mod was S52 cams... more then enough power with the right gearing to beat a G35

id think youd need some serious "mods" to make over 200whp with a 328, or even 200whp. , there was like 190 stock? thats at the flywheel when there testing the motor out of a car at the factory? that means 160 or so is getting to the wheels

o and g35s are what 260? auto or not, and autos shift faster, not as effcient as a manual gear box but they shift almost instantly

owning a 328 id like to belive this story but its hard

that year g35 had 298 hp.

Its basically like a 318 with a few bolt-ons claiming a kill over a stock e36 m3. Theres going to be flames.

link with dyno sheets showing over 200whp on the m52 motor. http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=478545 post 24 shows over 200whp with the same mods as the thread starter. Can we now admit a 328 can make over 200whp with not many bolt-ons. I think its safe to say 328's were under rated out the box, some are making 190whp bone stock.

link with dyno sheets showing over 200whp on the m52 motor. http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=478545 post 24 shows over 200whp with the same mods as the thread starter. Can we now admit a 328 can make over 200whp with not many bolt-ons. I think its safe to say 328's were under rated out the box, some are making 190whp bone stock.
hmm, i'm not seeing any dyno charts from a dynojet that are SAE corrected to show over 200rwhp with basic mods (sans m3 cams). post #24 in that thread does not show that it is SAE corrected. it seems hard to believe that you'd gain that much on a 328 that typically dynos in the 170rwhp range stock with so few mods. some 328s are just barely hitting 200rwhp with m3 cams:
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9706539&postcount=170
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10959381&postcount=225

and now that i've finished looking at all the dyno sheets in that thread i only found one 328 without m3 cams that made 200rwhp SAE corrected on a dynojet:
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11131856&postcount=237
but i'd have to call that result an outlier considering the many dyno graphs that dispute it and without a baseline stock dyno it's more difficult to accept that graph.

Here is a 1997 328is with 150k on the clock with the only mod at the time being a drop in filter...

http://www.nwbmwclub.com/events/images/october_14th_2006_dyno_day/october_14th_2006_dyno_day_e36_328.jpg

In the OT section, there's the GT-R and Corvette pissing contest. Not to be outdone, there's a Nissan and BMW pissing contest here in the kills section. I love this forum

Here is a 1997 328is with 150k on the clock with the only mod at the time being a drop in filter...

hxxp://www.nwbmwclub.com/events/images/october_14th_2006_dyno_day/october_14th_2006_dyno_day_e36_328.jpg
by stock baseline i meant from the same dyno that guy ran his car and to use his car to see if the dyno naturally reads higher/lower than other dynojets -- which some definitely do.

I'm not :alright

Me neither :redspot

How much G35 + boost? and how much 335i + Juice mods?

Are you talking how much money or how much power? A properly built G35 will cost a ton (i.e. stroked motor, internals, turbos, etc) but expect to see some big gains. :D

For the record, Gold brembo's on a Z DOES mean its a track model... It DOES NOT mean it has +15 hp, though, only that its is lighter weight, and has more efficient underbody air diffusers, and a more aggressive aerodynamics package... Gold brembos on a G, means just that... it has brembo brakes... end of story, no HP gain because of nice brakes, sorry :)

Edit: and by the way, having owned both an E36 328i w/ mods, and also a 350Z 6MT w/ mods... I am Highly skeptical of this kill... just my 2 cents...

For the record, Gold brembo's on a Z DOES mean its a track model... It DOES NOT mean it has +15 hp, though, only that its is lighter weight, and has more efficient underbody air diffusers, and a more aggressive aerodynamics package... Gold brembos on a G, means just that... it has brembo brakes... end of story, no HP gain because of nice brakes, sorry :)

Edit: and by the way, having owned both an E36 328i w/ mods, and also a 350Z 6MT w/ mods... I am Highly skeptical of this kill... just my 2 cents...

I'm not sure for the Z's, but for the G's, they only come on the ones with the "Sports package".

i kill these G35's like there is not tomorow. I killed a 350z the other day. you must look around the BMW dealerships in NY, for a traded in 350z

I'm not sure for the Z's, but for the G's, they only come on the ones with the "Sports package".

ah, my mistake. I wasn't sure about the G's, what exactly does the sports package on a G include, other than the Brembo's, of course?

i kill these G35's like there is not tomorow. I killed a 350z the other day. you must look around the BMW dealerships in NY, for a traded in 350z

nope, instead you should be looking out for an indignant Z owner who has just purchased a Twin-turbo kit out of frustration:rolleyes

man i raced one 350z turbocharged, very fast, i mean very fast, but my 320 the german version, yes the german version, is very fast too, i mean very fast. i mean my 320 still beat it, with 5 CL. yeah.

frankly, you guys need to drop this topic of bmw vs Z/G. as i said lets meet up, and see, stock vs moded, stock vs stock, or whatever. i have a car so i can have fun, and enjoy it. not to be on these forums constantly. so, whoever wants to resolve the issue, lets go, i live in washington, if i loss, big deal, i will shake the superior's hand and congratulate.

The bottomline here is a g35 can lose to a modded 328. Whats the big deal? :confused

The bottomline here is a g35 can lose to a modded 328. Whats the big deal?
well, e36 m3 can lose to a 318I, right? in this case, why not racing my 318, instead of my Z. it is not a big deal, but people talk like there is no way of the opposite event to occur "328 to lose to a stock G". street racing includes so many variables, and constraints. the other day i was running with an SRT-4, a car pulled infront of me and the srt darted off like a bulet by me. did i lose?

Well, the point is, it is wrong to make generalizations. People type their personal experiences that occur during the day, but that doesn't mean thats always the case. One car can have a deficiency or the other one can be modded and so on. I killed a Z the other day on the interstate but I'm not claiming that my car is always faster than a Z, but for that specific Z, it was. I'll be driving tmrrw and pull next to a Z, and he might destroy me. Who knows..

frankly, you guys need to drop this topic of bmw vs Z/G. as i said lets meet up, and see, stock vs moded, stock vs stock, or whatever. i have a car so i can have fun, and enjoy it. not to be on these forums constantly. so, whoever wants to resolve the issue, lets go, i live in washington, if i loss, big deal, i will shake the superior's hand and congratulate.

I would be up for something like that in the spring or summer.....

I would be up for something like that in the spring or summer.....
you're too far away bro. but i bet that there is an abundance of 540's, e46/e36 M3, and 335. we would be able to organize a good meet.

I like roadtrips.... :(

well, e36 m3 can lose to a 318I, right? in this case, why not racing my 318, instead of my Z. it is not a big deal, but people talk like there is no way of the opposite event to occur "328 to lose to a stock G". street racing includes so many variables, and constraints. the other day i was running with an SRT-4, a car pulled infront of me and the srt darted off like a bulet by me. did i lose?

I didn't state it can't lose to a G, or Z. I said with some mods it can win. Whats the big deal? BTW i have never lost to a 350z or g35. Merry Christmas.:D

i race g35's and pass them like there not moving. they are not fast, especially not when the m3 is lightened and the head worked.

i race g35's and pass them like there not moving. they are not fast, especially not when the m3 is lightened and the head worked.
because you never raced me

i race g35's and pass them like there not moving. they are not fast, especially not when the m3 is lightened and the head worked.

n lightened m3s with the worked heads r mad slow against the TT 350z. whats ur point?

n lightened m3s with the worked heads r mad slow against the TT 350z. whats ur point?
who mentioned a TT'ed Z?

who mentioned a TT'ed Z?

dude, my point is that its incorrect to compare modded cars vs stock, especially when in stock form they are pretty close. So I dunno why he says that Zs r slow, IF M3 is modded. No shit Sherlock

alright, i concur

alright, i concur

Hey, man. I live in the Everett area.

Anytime you want too hook up, I'm down! I'm off work for the next 4 days. I just hope the weather gets better (raining right now), but it doesn't look like it.

Let me know.

n lightened m3s with the worked heads r mad slow against the TT 350z. whats ur point?

N TT z's, or g's will get raped by turbo'd ///M's. Lets not foget the z/g motor can't handle boost to well with stock internals.

Hey, man. I live in the Everett area.

Anytime you want too hook up, I'm down! I'm off work for the next 4 days. I just hope the weather gets better (raining right now), but it doesn't look like it.

Let me know.
yeah, we will. lets wait for the weather to get better, and drier than we will. i wanna see this bmw of yours.

N TT z's, or g's will get raped by turbo'd ///M's. Lets not foget the z/g motor can't handle boost to well with stock internals.

well, thats not a fact ;)

well, thats not a fact ;)

I've heard it from many 350z/g35 owners.

I've heard it from many 350z/g35 owners.

No, I meant its not a fact that the turbo e36 m3 will rape the tt VQ35 :) I have yet to see such thing :)

No, I meant its not a fact that the turbo e36 m3 will rape the tt VQ35 :) I have yet to see such thing :)

I think a TT/TRM stage 2 kits would do that easily. I think even a stage 1 of either of those kits could do it. Rember also the M3 has less wt to carry around to start with. Ooo lets not forget sc'd M's.

Asen,

Give me a hollar when you guys are going to run them =)

I will call you up. hopefully it will be soon. the weather by the way is ugly

I think a TT/TRM stage 2 kits would do that easily. I think even a stage 1 of either of those kits could do it. Rember also the M3 has less wt to carry around to start with. Ooo lets not forget sc'd M's.
ok lets make a consice comparison between a turbo'ed M3 and TT'ed Z. how many horse power can an M3 get on a stock block, in order to be a dayly driven car? and how many psi can handle safely on stock block?
*Disclaimer* I am doing this from curiosity Not to arouse any debates.

ok lets make a consice comparison between a turbo'ed M3 and TT'ed Z. how many horse power can an M3 get on a stock block, in order to be a dayly driven car? and how many psi can handle safely on stock block?
*Disclaimer* I am doing this from curiosity Not to arouse any debates.

Many people have done over 500whp. If you look in the FI section you'll get alot more info. Some have made over that with stock compression. Btw I know of a s50 motor From ICS with stock internals that made over 650whp with a gt35r, and a thicker head gasket.

Many people have done over 500whp. If you look in the FI section you'll get alot more info. Some have made over that with stock compression.
let me clarify what i meant by saying safely on stock. there is a guy in my350z.com who had 520whp on a stock block, drove the car for 3000miles and blew it up. another example, one dude had his Z tuned at 490 whp, 470wtq on a stock block, literaly blew it up as sson as he cranked the car. many people who decide to upgrade to TT their Z's stick to the range of 400 to 450 whp (torue almost the same as the HP) i did not mean when i said comparison between the cars to come up with extreme cases like the one M3 with 500whp, what whp do the majority of people tune their E36 M3s' and E46 M3 to? honestly it is too much work to do a research about that on christmas.

the stock block is iron, and can take massive amounts of power. Do a search in the FI section, but becarful. You may end up selling your z for an e36 m3, or even a 328.;)

well, i dont doubt it3, but you also do some reading about the VQ35HR. it has significanlty stronger internals than the pre-07 models, and the secret behind the VQ motors is not the psi you're running, it is the tune. with a good tune even the old engine can get 420 -450 whp and run "forever". in addition to the VQ35HR, people anticipate the numbers to be from 460 to 500whp safely on stock block.

Btw are the z/g blocks made out of?

aluminum. but i still encourage you to read about it. the new evo X has an aluminum block and it is still boosted pretty hard

what is the 335's block made of?

aluminum. but i still encourage you to read about it. the new evo X has an aluminum block and it is still boosted pretty hard

The evo most likey has iron sleeves.

what is the 335's block made of?

Not sure.

Aluminum

"With its lightweight aluminum block, the new turbocharged MB11 2.0-liter MIVEC unit is expected to generate 320 hp and up to 325 lb-ft of torque"

what is the 335's block made of?

Full aluminum.

Full aluminum.
hey, you like the snow? we can have a drifting contest!

hey, you like the snow? we can have a drifting contest!

I'm not much of a drifter, but I don't see any snow around here.

I'm not much of a drifter, but I don't see any snow around here.

gotta hate open diff :)

the stock block is iron, and can take massive amounts of power. Do a search in the FI section, but becarful. You may end up selling your z for an e36 m3, or even a 328.;)

Hahahahaha I did!!!!!:lol

my two cents: Na w/ mods like intake, exhaust, ssk, etc. My 95m3 is AS QUICK AS the Z was... Note I said quick, not fast, remember the Z is about as light as the M, and has a wonderfully close ratio 6spd (both the e36 M and the Z are MUCH LIGHTER than a G). M has a 5spd with considerably longer gears... In my younger, dumber days I got my Z out to 160mph, in 5th gear... Iv'e yet to break through 155mph in my heavily NA modded M... as for forced induction... whole 'nother issue, with which I am not too familiar...

Hahahahaha I did!!!!!:lol

my two cents: Na w/ mods like intake, exhaust, ssk, etc. My 95m3 is AS QUICK AS the Z was... Note I said quick, not fast, remember the Z is about as light as the M, and has a wonderfully close ratio 6spd (both the e36 M and the Z are MUCH LIGHTER than a G). M has a 5spd with considerably longer gears... In my younger, dumber days I got my Z out to 160mph, in 5th gear... Iv'e yet to break through 155mph in my heavily NA modded M... as for forced induction... whole 'nother issue, with which I am not too familiar...

I hit 160 in old camm'd m3, and felt like it could have done more with another gear. Good to see you seen the light:alright. If you want massive power go turbo. Super Charger kits are also kool. The fastest sc'd 95 m3 hit i think 11.7-8 @120mph. The fastest turbo U.S M3 hit 9.92 @ 146mph.

I hit 160 in old camm'd m3, and felt like it could have done more with another gear. Good to see you seen the light:alright. If you want massive power go turbo. Super Charger kits are also kool. The fastest sc'd 95 m3 hit i think 11.7-8 @120mph. The fastest turbo U.S M3 hit 9.92 @ 146mph.

Ya, I always feel like my m3 could use another gear, it is also cammed... among other things... I wish I could go turbo... as that is the main reason I chose to buy an Obd1, however current funds will not allow:(
as for sc, the new twin screw kits out there have me drooling, and they sound oh, so sexy, but it seems for the prices they ask, you might be better off with a turbo setup....

Question: If/when I go FI, will I have to change my upgraded cams to some that are boost specific? or will they work for both NA & FI?

Ya, I always feel like my m3 could use another gear, it is also cammed... among other things... I wish I could go turbo... as that is the main reason I chose to buy an Obd1, however current funds will not allow:(
as for sc, the new twin screw kits out there have me drooling, and they sound oh, so sexy, but it seems for the prices they ask, you might be better off with a turbo setup....

Question: If/when I go FI, will I have to change my upgraded cams to some that are boost specific? or will they work for both NA & FI?

Which cams do you have? If you have schricks you can add a super charger, but I'm not sure about a turbo setup.

Yes, they are schricks...
damn, well, where can I find a Twin screw setup for a reasonable price?

Yes, they are schricks...
damn, well, where can I find a Twin screw setup for a reasonable price?


I would contact Marco from AA. Btw I think AA has only 1 twin screw setup, and its going to be there final 1 i think. There c38 kit is also a cool setup. Someone just made 387rwhp on a c38 stage 2 kit with no other mods.

Yeah I love AA stuff, Used to have one of their exhausts on my 328, but as I said before, for they prices they ask for their TS kit, one could easily buy a turbo kit from Cartech or Technique tuning... Do Forum members get discounts from AA? Thanks again for your quick and helpful responses, and sorry to the creator of this thread for the threadjacking...