View Full Version : E36 M3 vs E36 328is ***Videos included***


jrhaile
12-22-2007, 09:10 PM
Not my cars but I filmed and edited...

Basically, the E36 M3 has M50 Manifold, Dinan Cai, AA Exhuast and Fan Delete and it doesn't pull much on the 328is which has Fan Delete, M3 Exhaust and Cosmos CAI. The 328is has ran a best of 14.8 in the 1/4. The M3 has not hit the track yet...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otgDsHCb-9Q

Enjoy...

cky751
12-22-2007, 09:17 PM
nice, two cars that need engine work.

jumpin jack
12-22-2007, 09:51 PM
awesome video, great editing too!

vibes
12-22-2007, 09:53 PM
nice, two cars that need engine work.

Your an idiot.

mitchelrl
12-22-2007, 09:56 PM
dude, you HAVE to get saleem to re-inact this scene....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSCil1bGCXo

I'll run with James on vid when he gets back into town.

PS.

Saleem should check and see if he has any vacuum leaks from his manifold swap.

jworms
12-22-2007, 10:26 PM
i'm assuming there wasn't a passenger in the 328? what other weight disadvantages were there? that M3 should have pulled quite a bit more than what is shown in that video. i mean you're talking about a full second quicker in the quarter mile between the two and probably 5mph+ trap speed difference.

Bears
12-22-2007, 10:37 PM
horray for night vids that are actually visible :alright

nono
12-22-2007, 10:37 PM
i'm assuming there wasn't a passenger in the 328? what other weight disadvantages were there? that M3 should have pulled quite a bit more than what is shown in that video. i mean you're talking about a full second quicker in the quarter mile between the two and probably 5mph+ trap speed difference. no the m3 was slow do to the "leaking valve cover" :rolleyesThat m3 is balls SLOW!

jrhaile
12-22-2007, 10:46 PM
Your an idiot.

:rofl

dude, you HAVE to get saleem to re-inact this scene....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSCil1bGCXo

I'll run with James on vid when he gets back into town.

PS.

Saleem should check and see if he has any vacuum leaks from his manifold swap.

ahahha

i'm assuming there wasn't a passenger in the 328? what other weight disadvantages were there? that M3 should have pulled quite a bit more than what is shown in that video. i mean you're talking about a full second quicker in the quarter mile between the two and probably 5mph+ trap speed difference.

No passenger in the 328 and the weight came from my fatass.. 250lbs or so in his car.

I'm thinking his problem is with tuning or lack there of (still oem). I haven't done a full check, but a vacuum leak is possible too since it has a small cold start problem :dunno We didn't do the swap, it came with it already done so I'm not that familiar with it the car yet..

no the m3 was slow do to the "leaking valve cover" :rolleyesThat m3 is balls SLOW!

haha I wasn't saying the M3 was running poorly due to the VCG just saying it was an issue with the car and it's possible he has oil on his plugs or something...though it doesn't seem to be misfiring or anything. We're doing a full tuneup shortly so we'll re-run them then... we do this stuff all the time so there will be updates. This was sort of a baseline video...

redlinerjetta
12-22-2007, 11:06 PM
Something is not right here.

jrhaile
12-22-2007, 11:07 PM
Video's don't lie...

negcamber
12-22-2007, 11:15 PM
What wheels were those on the M3...and how much do they weigh?

jrhaile
12-22-2007, 11:17 PM
Breyton something and I'm sure they're not light by any means meanwhile the 328is had 15" bottlecaps + winter wheels on...

jworms
12-22-2007, 11:17 PM
:rofl



ahahha



No passenger in the 328 and the weight came from my fatass.. 250lbs or so in his car.

I'm thinking his problem is with tuning or lack there of (still oem). I haven't done a full check, but a vacuum leak is possible too since it has a small cold start problem :dunno We didn't do the swap, it came with it already done so I'm not that familiar with it the car yet..
ah ok cool that makes a bit more sense. vacuum leaks are not uncommon with the m50 manifold swap so you're definitely right in checking for them.



haha I wasn't saying the M3 was running poorly due to the VCG just saying it was an issue with the car and it's possible he has oil on his plugs or something...though it doesn't seem to be misfiring or anything. We're doing a full tuneup shortly so we'll re-run them then... we do this stuff all the time so there will be updates. This was sort of a baseline video...

good stuff. thanks for posting the video. there's not enough members on here who will go through the 'trouble' of getting video footage of their encounters. i look forward to watching the future runs :thumbup:

jrhaile
12-22-2007, 11:19 PM
I enjoy it not for the competition but for the opportunity to show the difference in cars...

mecbain
12-26-2007, 02:06 PM
Maybe it's just me, but I think the outcome of the race it's pretty normal, ok maybe the m3 could be a bit faster, but it's normal for 2 cars that have with mods around what 50-60hp off difference between them (we're not talking about a car that has 100hp and the other 150hp either) plus the m3 is a little heavier stock and it has 250pounds additional passanger.

All the cars that I've raced that had similar weight/gearing and the difference was around 50hp between my car and the one I've raced, the outcome was pretty much the same as the one in this video, generaly on the highway it takes a lot of difference in power to really leave the other guy behind... and for the race from 1st gear, well the weight of the m3 really didn't help at the lower speeds.

I don't know just my opinion, cause I remember racing the 320i I have now against my 325i that I've sold, the difference is around 50hp,(closer gearing for the 320) but still I was able to put barely a few cars from 60-120mph, from around 100-110mph I started to get away from him slowly.....

Same think, raced a s2000 and from 80mph to 135mph and he only gained a few cars on me....

So I don't think the m3 is suppose to destroy the 328 in this vid, could be a bit faster sure, but I don't think the difference should be so big...

e36bimmer328is
12-26-2007, 02:38 PM
It's because the ///M3 was being piloted by a terrorist :shifty

jrhaile
12-26-2007, 02:40 PM
It's because the ///M3 was being piloted by a terrorist :shifty

This is true... he also had an extra 500lbs in explosives in the trunk :devillook

Karim323ci
12-26-2007, 02:55 PM
"It's because the ///M3 was being piloted by a terrorist" congradulation you won the most ignorant quote of the year good for you. on the topic at hand a friend of mine has 328is that car is a freak he has chip,cai,exhaust that car is fast its has been able to beat clk320 with light mods , 330ci`s. i really respect the 2.8 engine its a fast car and pulls good up top. however e36 m3 euro versions where i live their monsters they absolutly destroy 328's and 350z.

e36bimmer328is
12-26-2007, 02:59 PM
"It's because the ///M3 was being piloted by a terrorist" congradulation you won the most ignorant quote of the year good for you. on the topic at hand a friend of mine has 328is that car is a freak he has chip,cai,exhaust that car is fast its has been able to beat clk320 with light mods , 330ci`s. i really respect the 2.8 engine its a fast car and pulls good up top. however e36 m3 euro versions where i live their monsters they absolutly destroy 328's and 350z.

You are an idiot........

Damn, that is being said a lot in this thread......

Look at the post after mine from the OP.........I am friends with all of them.........I know JRHaile, the owner of the ///M3, and the owner of the 328.

jrhaile
12-26-2007, 03:02 PM
"It's because the ///M3 was being piloted by a terrorist" congradulation you won the most ignorant quote of the year good for you. on the topic at hand a friend of mine has 328is that car is a freak he has chip,cai,exhaust that car is fast its has been able to beat clk320 with light mods , 330ci`s. i really respect the 2.8 engine its a fast car and pulls good up top. however e36 m3 euro versions where i live their monsters they absolutly destroy 328's and 350z.

:rofl We refer to my buddy Saleem as a terrorist as a joke. It's not being ignorant so back the f*** off buddy. He's from Jordan and is Catholic which is why we make fun of him as a joke :rolleyes

e36bimmer328is
12-26-2007, 03:05 PM
:rofl We refer to my buddy Saleem as a terrorist as a joke. It's not being ignorant so back the f*** off buddy. He's from Jordan and is Catholic which is why we make fun of him as a joke :rolleyes

In fact, he makes fun of himself with us as a joke :rofl

Remember Shari's the last time I was there........The waitress thought we were all insane:shifty

jrhaile
12-26-2007, 03:07 PM
Was that when Saleem said he was going to bomb us all :rofl

Karim323ci
12-26-2007, 03:12 PM
It's not being ignorant so back the f*** off buddy. He's from Jordan and is Catholic which is why we make fun of him as a joke . ok point taken thanks for being an ass** about it. i didnt know it was a joke so you can shut up now

e36bimmer328is
12-26-2007, 03:12 PM
Was that when Saleem said he was going to bomb us all :rofl

Correct :rofl

jrhaile
12-26-2007, 03:16 PM
It's not being ignorant so back the f*** off buddy. He's from Jordan and is Catholic which is why we make fun of him as a joke . ok point taken thanks for being an ass** about it. i didnt know it was a joke so you can shut up now

hey Son you're in my thread ;)

Karim323ci
12-26-2007, 03:25 PM
you own a thread congradulations you're my idol , i have nothing against you or you're friend its just that i thought he was being serious i didnt know he was his friend "e36bimmer328is" my appologies.

e36bimmer328is
12-26-2007, 03:47 PM
"e36bimmer328is" my appologies.

It's all good man......

The internet isn't serious business