View Full Version : 328is vs. 2007 GTI


drpctp
12-18-2007, 11:27 PM
When I was coming back from PA I was traveling through the Hollland tunnel, when I noticed a black Gti on my right. It was 11pm and there were no cars in the tunnel. He first passed me at about 50mph and then I down shifted from 4th to 3rd and passed him, at this point he noticed me trying to race. Then he gunned it and was half a car length ahead of me for up to 95mph, once we hit 105 I started pulling on him, when I red lined 4th gear I was at 115mph and at that point he was 1 car length behind me. Once I hit a 120-122 I slowed down because the tunnel was ending. It was a close race, but I can't verify if he was modded or not. The only mods that I have are: 3.23 lsd, CAI, and M50 manifold.

Sam Son
12-18-2007, 11:42 PM
nIce....but I think they have cameras in that tunnel

ohnoes
12-18-2007, 11:54 PM
Racing through the Holland tunnel = :rofl.

OMGWTFBODY
12-19-2007, 12:02 AM
nIce....but I think they have cameras in that tunnel


Post pics of the ticket so we know who trapped higher.

bigbeansm3
12-19-2007, 12:18 AM
Post pics of the ticket so we know who trapped higher.

:lol

drpctp
12-19-2007, 12:26 AM
It wasn't a good Idea, but I have a Valentine one, and at 11pm there was no traffic. My cousin is a cop, so if I do get into trouble he can help me out.

whosyadadie01
12-19-2007, 01:51 AM
idk how much he can do to get rid of an existing ticket

but thats a funnie situation

00323i
12-19-2007, 09:15 AM
ummm...doing 100+ in the tunnel, the way your story goes, that tunnel is not long enough, to stop when you exit the tunnel.

I guess it could be done.

Like the others said, post the ticket with the pic of your car, so we can see times. lol


j/k

Shodanusmc
12-19-2007, 10:54 AM
The GTI is that slow? I thought they were faster.

trevordr
12-19-2007, 12:39 PM
The GTI is that slow? I thought they were faster.

They are faster... than a 328.

ImportFanatic
12-19-2007, 02:41 PM
MkIV's no, MkV's yes. I remember reading that MkIV's choke up top, but a front mount usually helps, not sure if it's the same case for the V's.

beamah328is
12-19-2007, 06:27 PM
Wow, the 2 lanes in that tunnel are so narrow to be going 100+
Good thing u didn't hit the wall.

Revin2Ten
12-19-2007, 06:38 PM
MKV GTI's with the 2.0t FSI motor are capable of 14.5-14.6@94-95mph completely stock.

drpctp
12-20-2007, 04:30 PM
I'm not sure if he was automatic or manual, he sounded stock. lOL
If I was stock I think it wouldn't be a fair race.

328is stock 5 speed 193 hp + intake, m50 manifold, and 3.23 lsd.
206 tQ

VW GTI 2007 200hp
207 tq

Sam Son
12-20-2007, 10:39 PM
Post pics of the ticket so we know who trapped higher.
:lol3

jumpin jack
12-21-2007, 01:14 AM
good kill man, a worthy adversary:buttrock

rewopM
12-21-2007, 01:26 AM
good kill

yea lets see the ticket....wah?

NYY42
12-21-2007, 02:11 AM
Well..a 328 with a few boltons is faster then an e36 m3..

drpctp
12-21-2007, 02:14 AM
Well..a 328 with a few bolt ons is faster then an e36 m3..


sarcasm .....

drpctp
12-21-2007, 02:15 AM
good kill

yea lets see the ticket....wah?



no ticket. Lucky me

NYY42
12-21-2007, 02:18 AM
sarcasm .....

Not quite..

OBD1 conversion, m50 manifold, chip, pulleys + lsd

drpctp
12-21-2007, 02:28 AM
A stock 328is is rated at 165 to 170 whp
A stock OBD2 M3 " " 205 to 210 whp
It would be quite hard to make 40 hp from an OBD 1 conversion, m50 manifold, chip and pulleys. If you consider s52 cams then I would say yes to that.

NYY42
12-21-2007, 02:30 AM
A stock 328is is rated at 165 to 170 whp
A stock OBD2 M3 " " 205 to 210 whp
It would be quite hard to make 40 hp from an OBD 1 conversion, m50 manifold, chip and pulleys. If you consider s52 cams then I would say yes to that.

I've seen plenty of dynos of 328s with those mods making 200+rwhp

drpctp
12-21-2007, 02:42 AM
In that case I need to get a chip, pulleys and an OBD1 conversion, how much does it cost to do an OBD 1 conversion?

vibes
12-21-2007, 02:50 AM
This has been covered so many times. You can make a 328 faster than an m3 with bolt ons.

While the M3 has more horsepower and a slight amount more torque, the 328 is not too far behind with torque. I beat stock and lightly modded m3's in my 328.

BavariaMotorist
12-21-2007, 03:12 PM
I don't know how loud your cars are, but my car would deafen me if I raced through that tunnel.

drpctp
12-21-2007, 11:33 PM
Not very loud, but the intake makes the car,, sound a little louder, when I red line sometimes people turn their heads to see whats coming their way. I will definitely get an exhaust soon.

cky751
12-21-2007, 11:57 PM
Not quite..

OBD1 conversion, m50 manifold, chip, pulleys + lsd

thats hardly a few bolt-ons, thats a lot of work

NYY42
12-22-2007, 01:41 AM
thats hardly a few bolt-ons, thats a lot of work

we have different ideas of "a lot of work";)

TeamSlowdotOrg
12-22-2007, 02:11 AM
The stock new GTI traps 94 mph. An E36 328 with those mods should be trapping 95 or so. What's so unbelievable? From a stop it wouldn't be much of a contest if both drivers can drive well, GTI's don't exactly leap off the line when they're stock.

NYY42
12-22-2007, 02:19 AM
The stock new GTI traps 94 mph. An E36 328 with those mods should be trapping 95 or so. What's so unbelievable? From a stop it wouldn't be much of a contest if both drivers can drive well, GTI's don't exactly leap off the line when they're stock.

That 328 is trapping a bit higher then that..trust me. My 325 with intake/exhaust/chip + 3.38lsd trapped 98

drpctp
12-22-2007, 03:27 AM
What does a stock 328 trap at?

00323i
12-27-2007, 02:15 PM
This has been covered so many times. You can make a 328 faster than an m3 with bolt ons.

While the M3 has more horsepower and a slight amount more torque, the 328 is not too far behind with torque. I beat stock and lightly modded m3's in my 328.

Consider that statement is true, what bolt on do I have to do to beat an M3 on my 01 330Ci?