View Full Version : my 325i vs x5 4.4i


calypso325i
12-15-2007, 02:46 AM
So i was at a red light and this guy in a x5 4.4i pulls pulls up next to me with his window down and his music pumpng loud. He gives me the nod and the lights turn green.
We both hit it both being auto, i got a jump traight a car length straight off the line then he caught up in 2nd and it was dead even in 3rd upto 150 km/h (94mph) so i shut off and he does a ricer flyby and kept on going probably clocked the car lol.

My car is stock standard, 325iA.

Both were by ourselves in each car.

330xiRaceMachin
12-15-2007, 02:53 AM
i would think a 4.4 would have cleaned up against a 325i.... but if you say so

and if you were neck and neck and you shut off how would the guy know... im guessing it wasnt a ricer fly by he just kept going not knowing you shut off

exproject
12-15-2007, 03:42 AM
Hmm.

4.4 L > 2.5 L...

I doubt theres that large of a weight diff, but I guess anything is possible on the street.

Orxan4ik
12-15-2007, 03:55 AM
i would think a 4.4 would have cleaned up against a 325i.... but if you say so



lately ur been reading my mind :rolleyes

calypso325i
12-15-2007, 04:09 AM
Yeah i would have thaught that he would hand my ass to me, stock specs a x5 should do 0-100 (0-62) in 8.2 and an auto 325i does 0-100 (0-62) in 8.8, But i dont know what happend lol, I should have taped it lol.

Orxan4ik
12-15-2007, 04:20 AM
Yeah i would have thaught that he would hand my ass to me, stock specs a x5 should do 0-100 (0-62) in 8.2 and an auto 325i does 0-100 (0-62) in 8.8, But i dont know what happend lol, I should have taped it lol.

It's not the 0-100km/h im suprised about-could've been ur good RT @ the start, but you said you took it up to 150km/h - I just cant see an auto 325i keep up with the 4.4 E53 @ those speeds, even if he screwed up the start he'd still pass u by 150km/h

calypso325i
12-15-2007, 04:44 AM
Ahh i dont think it would have been RT involved in ti because it was wet weather and as i stomped on the accelerator my wheels started spinning off the line in 1st so i would have had a slightly crappier RT.

JohnnyWash1
12-15-2007, 07:19 AM
Hmm.

4.4 L > 2.5 L...

I doubt theres that large of a weight diff, but I guess anything is possible on the street.
You do know what an X5 is, right? There is a huge weight difference. For future reference,

SUV >>>> sedan (in terms of size)

330xiRaceMachin
12-15-2007, 11:48 AM
thanks for clearing that up for us i thought the X5 was a sports car....

the weight difference isnt all that much

And i dont know if you know what an X5 is but for SUV's there pretty quick, a 4.4 should have no problem with a 325

Shodanusmc
12-15-2007, 11:55 AM
I have a stock 06 X5 4.4 that my wife drives. It is 0-60 in around 6.9 seconds. It would not have any problem with a 325 wet or dry.

calypso325i
12-15-2007, 01:11 PM
yeah but this would have been the early x5 maybe 2000 model with only 210 kw same as the 540i that would explain why i kept up to it.

he couldnt have been playing with me because i heard that v8 roar he was def full throttle.

exproject
12-15-2007, 01:35 PM
I don't think you understand that a 540i has around 325ft.lbs of torque.

per wiki

M62TUB44
210 kW (283 hp) and 440 N·m (325 ft·lbf) / Electronic Throttle
1998-2003 E39 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_E39) 540i (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_5-Series)
1998-2001 E38 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_E38) 740i/740iL (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_7-Series)
1999-2003 E53 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_E53) X5 4.4i (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_X5)
2003-2005 Range Rover (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Range_Rover) Land Rover (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_Rover)
2000-2004 Morgan Aero 8 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgan_Aero_8)[[1] (http://www.autosite.com/content/research/buyersguide/index.cfm/action/viewGuide/year_si/2005/make_vch/Morgan/model_vch/Aero%208/xml/2005-morgan-aero-8.xml)]

Annnnd

M50B25

The 2.5 L (2494 cc) M50B25 was introduced with the 1991 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991) 325i (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_3-Series). It has an 84 mm bore and 75 mm stroke and produces 189 hp (141 kW).
Applications:
1991-1995 E36 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_E36) 325i (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_3-Series)
1992-1995 E34 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_E34) 525i/525ix (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_5-Series)


So basically, an X5 4.4 should clean you up, we all know a 540 would.



Edit: Per more research, the E70 doesn't have the 4.4, so his 6.9 sec 0 - 60 is done with the M62TUB44 in the E53.


Platform (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automobile_platform) BMW E70 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_E70)

Engine(s)
3.0L 260 hp I6 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I6)
3.0L 235 hp Diesel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel) I6 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I6)
4.8L 350 hp V8 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V8)

Orxan4ik
12-15-2007, 03:48 PM
yeah but this would have been the early x5 maybe 2000 model with only 210 kw same as the 540i that would explain why i kept up to it.

he couldnt have been playing with me because i heard that v8 roar he was def full throttle.

only 210kw? lol, how bout only 310ft/lbs torque? and those are factory claimed, I actually dynoed mine @ 281rwhp and 301 rwtrq. Anyways, must've been a bad driver, even tho I dont understand how could he possibly screw up in an automatic

dophineh
12-15-2007, 05:15 PM
Yeah i would have thaught that he would hand my ass to me, stock specs a x5 should do 0-100 (0-62) in 8.2 and an auto 325i does 0-100 (0-62) in 8.8, But i dont know what happend lol, I should have taped it lol.

I Thought the x5 4.4 was a sub 8 second car on the 0-60/0-62

Shodanusmc
12-15-2007, 08:51 PM
I don't think you understand that a 540i has around 325ft.lbs of torque.

per wiki


Annnnd



So basically, an X5 4.4 should clean you up, we all know a 540 would.



Edit: Per more research, the E70 doesn't have the 4.4, so his 6.9 sec 0 - 60 is done with the M62TUB44 in the E53.


HUH? I have an 06 X5 with the 4.4.......what are you talking about?

calypso325i
12-15-2007, 09:12 PM
Hey guys a series 1 2000 model e53 x5 has the 210 kw version v8 that does 0-100km (0-62mph) in 8.2 seconds, that weighs in at 2225kg, that almost weighs a ton more then a 325i compared to the 1425 kg 325iA.

you guys must be talking about the 2003+ e53 which has 255kw that one does 0-100 in 6.9

Sam Son
12-15-2007, 10:47 PM
Uhh the name of this section is Kill Stories:This is the place to post tall tales about racing

JohnnyWash1
12-16-2007, 02:21 AM
thanks for clearing that up for us i thought the X5 was a sports car....

the weight difference isnt all that much

And i dont know if you know what an X5 is but for SUV's there pretty quick, a 4.4 should have no problem with a 325
I highly suggest you look up the curb weights before you dismiss almost 2000lbs as "not much of a weight difference".

Dannyel
12-18-2007, 11:10 AM
I have a 01 X5 4.4 and trust me the driver of the X must not know a lot about driving... no offense but even with almost 5000lb the X still beat a 325 easily...

Wolfen
12-18-2007, 12:59 PM
There are only 2 possibilities.

1. The X5 has a weak running engine.
2. The X5 DID NOT HAVE THE 4.4 It must have been you know..."rebadged"

#2 happens all the time with the bmw suv crowd. They remove the 3.0 and replace it with a 4.4 badge. Easy and Cheap. Happens all the time with the "M" crowd also.

dophineh
12-18-2007, 03:36 PM
Ignorance. V8 SUV's are not slow. Come out of your caves people

calypso325i
12-18-2007, 05:42 PM
Like i said people, factory specs: a x5 should do 0-62mph in 8.2 secs and a 325iA does 0-62 mph in 8.8, so there may have been something wrong with it or maybe there wrong figures from the car review website.

the 03+ x5 has 255kw and that one is supposed to do 0-62 in 6.9 secs, now thats a different story.


Theres not much to racing in an auto lol, u just leave it in "D" and floor it lol and maybe put it into sports to stretch out the gears more lol. So cant really put it down to driver error unless i took off a little bit quicker then he did, thats the only other reason.

Dannyel
12-18-2007, 05:55 PM
not only D ... i usually tap shift and it makes a whole lot of a diff. redlining every gear ...

calypso325i
12-18-2007, 06:06 PM
not only D ... i usually tap shift and it makes a whole lot of a diff. redlining every gear ...

Yeah i manually shift aswell, but i dont think it really makes any difference.
In auto if ur about to race on a rolling start then manual shifting is better because at low speed u can just put it into 1st or 2nd and take off straight away rather then just mashing the pedal and waiting for these lazy autos to kick down lol.

But redlining the car doesnt mean the cars going better, a 325i makes 141kw@ 5900 rpm, redline is at 6500rpm i think. theres no use in redlining the car to 6500rpm when its reached its max power @ 5900 rpm lol ur actually losing time doing that.