Hello fellow Wisconsin Bimmer-heads!

As some of you already know I have replaced Chapman as the Madison Liaison for the Wisconsin Chapter of the BMW CCA, Badger Bimmers (http://www.badgerbimmers.org/main/index.shtml). I'm working on putting together some ideas for events in the Madison area. Of course BMW CCA members from anywhere are welcome to join us!

During the Spring Green event this fall a number of members showed interest in having a TSD Rally. I contacted our favorite Rally Master, Jim Jurgenson, and he has agreed to help us run one. For those of you that don't know what TSD is here is a helpful website: http://www.tsdroadrally.com/novice_or_nervous.cfm If you are interested in running in a spring TSD Rally (likely in the Mt. Horeb area) please PM or post your name and email address so I can contact you about the details. In order to run in a TSD rally you need a team: driver and navigator. If you don't have a team but are interested in driving or navigating for someone else, let me know. Jim does a great job of teaching TSD at the beginning of his Rallys and makes the course fun for everyone, new and experienced alike.

I'll post more information as we get rolling on the details. The event will be April 27th!!!

If you have any suggestions for events, please let me know. I'm working on setting up a Spring Clean-up at Zimbrick in Madison as well. Also, it sounds like Madison will be hosting the March BMW CCA board meeting. Hopefully we can get a good turn out and represent Madison.

EDIT: Official Rallye information!

Hello everyone!

This is just a friendly reminder that the Badger Bimmers will be holding a Spring TSD Rallye in the Mt. Horeb area (just outside of Madison) on April 27th. Rallye Master Jim Jurgenson has put together a TSD that will be great for beginners and seasoned veterans alike. If you haven’t enjoyed the roads in this area, you are really missing out!

At 10am we will begin registration at the Mount Horeb park and ride lot. To reach the Mount Horeb park and ride, take US 18/151 south out of Madison. Take exit 65, turn left (south) on WIS 78. The park and ride is located at the end of a short driveway on the right. (http://www.dot.wisconsin.gov/travel/parkride/lots/dan1310.htm) A $25/per car registration fee will be collected at that time. Once registration is complete Jim will give instructions for our first timers and answer any questions.

First car out will be at 12:01. The rallye will last ~5 hours and route us through the incredible Mount Horeb landscape. We will finish around 5pm at The Grumpy Troll Brew Pub in historic downtown Mount Horeb (http://www.thegrumpytroll.com/) where final scoring will take place along with trophies, food and spirits.

If you have any questions, please let me know. If you are planning on attending this event as a volunteer or participant and you haven’t emailed me yet to register, please do so soon. We need an accurate count for reservations. We could still use a couple more volunteers as well.

Badger Bimmer's Spring TSD Rallye
Date: April 27th
Where: Mt. Horeb Park and Ride
Cost: $25 per car
Registration Starts at 10am
First car out at 12:01pm
End at The Grumpy Troll Brew Pub ~5pm for final scoring/trophies/food/drink

Feel free to forward this announcement on to anyone I may have missed.

Cheers,
Dusten Tornow
Badger Bimmers Madison Liaison

I'd love to go to a TSD rally. I'm still pissed the one this spring was canceled due to "lack of interest." :shifty

Hey Dusten,

Enjoying the first snow of the season? Yuck. I'd be up for a TSD as long as the salt is washed off the roads by then. My vote would be for late April FWIW!

I'd love to go to a TSD rally. I'm still pissed the one this spring was canceled due to "lack of interest." :shifty

Great, I'll add you to the list.

Hey Dusten,

Enjoying the first snow of the season? Yuck. I'd be up for a TSD as long as the salt is washed off the roads by then. My vote would be for late April FWIW!

Yeah, this weather is ridiculous. I don't envy people without garages to park in.

I'll add you to the list as well. I'll have to search through my old posts, I think I posted a couple times last year about the Mt. Horeb conditions in spring. I agree...those roads are much nicer without salt and sand on them.

EDIT: Just found it, looks like the roads were clear in mid-April. I'll be out of town for a wedding (my own) the last weekend in April, so I have to work around that.

im down to go

I'd go, I am from milwaukee though. But if I get my car running, it sounds like fun.

The tentative date for the Madison Spring Rallye is Sunday, April 27th. Jim Jurgenson will be the Rallye Master. I will post again once this goes before the CCA board and gets officially added to the events calendar. :redspot

dude, im down.. just let me know the date and what i have to do ahead of time.. late april sounds great for me.. but if your wedding is right in there then we should push it to the first weekend of may? or are you honeymoonin?

it sounds like fun. Windy City BMW ran a fall event in that area back in October and it was blast. I would love to run in the spring. I just hope it will be warm enough to run with the top down.

I just hope it will be warm enough to run with the top down.

Top down no matter what. Suck it up.
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A co worker and I would be interested in trying this out... see what all this hype is about.

Glad to see a bunch of interest in this event. It is officially on the Badger Bimmer event calendar and Jim has agreed to help us run it.

We need some volunteers to help with the check point, etc. So if you or someone you know might be able to help let me know. I'll keep everyone posted as we get the details put together.

Since ive never even seen one of these go down i think that if i help out for a checkpoint this time and see how it goes and what its all about id have a better time the first time if i dont jump into it.. what do you think? again yeah either way im down for this badboy.. what are are we talking about? mt. hoerb? i cant spell.. but none the less i dont really know where that is.. or i do and i forgot. what would you guys think about my buddy coming.. he has a pretty nice type R Civic hatch.. super super clean.. (I think its a good looking car and it has a little zip to it, and hes not like every other honda owner.. he just loves cars like crazy.. his cup of tea just happens to be fried in rice.

Since ive never even seen one of these go down i think that if i help out for a checkpoint this time and see how it goes and what its all about id have a better time the first time if i dont jump into it.. what do you think? again yeah either way im down for this badboy.. what are are we talking about? mt. hoerb? i cant spell.. but none the less i dont really know where that is.. or i do and i forgot. what would you guys think about my buddy coming.. he has a pretty nice type R Civic hatch.. super super clean.. (I think its a good looking car and it has a little zip to it, and hes not like every other honda owner.. he just loves cars like crazy.. his cup of tea just happens to be fried in rice.

Richard - Mt. Horeb is just east of Madison on 151, only about 10 minutes out of town. It's near Tyrol Basin ski area if you know where that is. Map (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=mt.+horeb,+wi&ie=UTF8&z=13&iwloc=addr&om=1)
You and your friend are more than welcome to join us. Working a control is a great way to see what it's all about.

It looks like we are looking at a ~100 mile route, which should take about 5 hours from start to finish. We'll likely start in Mt. Horeb and end at the Grumpy Troll pub/restaurant to finish up scoring and award prizes, eat and have a lager or two.

Could everyone please PM me their contact information? I'll be sending out reminder emails when the time gets closer so I'll need your full name and email address.

Since ive never even seen one of these go down i think that if i help out for a checkpoint this time and see how it goes and what its all about id have a better time the first time if i dont jump into it.. what do you think? again yeah either way im down for this badboy.. what are are we talking about? mt. hoerb? i cant spell.. but none the less i dont really know where that is.. or i do and i forgot. what would you guys think about my buddy coming.. he has a pretty nice type R Civic hatch.. super super clean.. (I think its a good looking car and it has a little zip to it, and hes not like every other honda owner.. he just loves cars like crazy.. his cup of tea just happens to be fried in rice.

:shifty:shifty:shifty
As long is not it is rice he is welcome. When the mod drives a Honda, it is safe to say all Hondas are welcome.

Wait - How does he have a Type R Civic - those were never imported into the U.S. - only the Integra Type R (DC2)? :shifty:shifty

Si perhaps but no Type R. :shifty:shifty

But yeah, bring him to meets and such.

Richard - Mt. Horeb is just east of Madison on 151, only about 10 minutes out of town. It's near Tyrol Basin ski area if you know where that is. Map (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=mt.+horeb,+wi&ie=UTF8&z=13&iwloc=addr&om=1)
You and your friend are more than welcome to join us. Working a control is a great way to see what it's all about.

It looks like we are looking at a ~100 mile route, which should take about 5 hours from start to finish. We'll likely start in Mt. Horeb and end at the Grumpy Troll pub/restaurant to finish up scoring and award prizes, eat and have a lager or two.

Could everyone please PM me their contact information? I'll be sending out reminder emails when the time gets closer so I'll need your full name and email address.

I'd be down to help out. I can request off work, but IDK if anything else comes up.

Sounds good Sachin, thanks for offering your help!

Sachin and I had a nice discussion with Darcey (Badger Bimmer Pres) about how great it is to be part of a club that doesn't actually "require" ownership of a BMW. Sachin drives a Honda but is very involved in the club. It works out great for everyone.

well i dont know much about honda's but its clean and what nots.. i think its a base hatch and he put a lot of jdm products on it? i dont know..

ill show you his myspace if you would like and we can clear this up.. i look like a fool.. haha


im excited about this TSD goin on abouts...

Sounds good Sachin, thanks for offering your help!

Sachin and I had a nice discussion with Darcey (Badger Bimmer Pres) about how great it is to be part of a club that doesn't actually "require" ownership of a BMW. Sachin drives a Honda but is very involved in the club. It works out great for everyone.


Hey
I assume this is not CCA limited, correct?

Thanks
S

Hey
I assume this is not CCA limited, correct?

Thanks
S

In general, I would not make that assumption, particularly when it is listed on the badger bimmers website.

While it is possible that it may be open to non-CCA members, that is the exception, not the rule. Insurance requirements and liability issues often require that participation is limited to club members. YMMV.

As with all Badger Bimmer Club events, liability insurance needs to be paid for and submitted by Badger Bimmers in advance of ANY event. I am following up with the liability insurance carrier to determine if this event is for Badger Bimmer club members vehicles only who would be partiscipating.

In general, I would not make that assumption, particularly when it is listed on the badger bimmers website.

While it is possible that it may be open to non-CCA members, that is the exception, not the rule. Insurance requirements and liability issues often require that participation is limited to club members. YMMV.

That was what I was wondering - since I did not see any mention of CCA membership required for participation I was not sure whether it was CCA restricted or general public.

What? You mean there are BMW enthusiasts that AREN'T BMW CCA members? If you aren't a member, pony up the $40 and join today. The Roundel magazine is easily worth the annual fee, plus you get invites to fun things like TSD Rallyes, Track Days, monthly meetings, etc...

Sorry if that was unclear in my original posting. Since this event is being sponsored, insured and paid for by the Badger Bimmers club it is assumed that you are a member of the club.

Not a member? Joining is fast and easy. Go to this website: http://www.bmwcca.org/members/AM/Template.cfm?Section=Join_And_Renew&Template=/BMWCCA/CustomPages/joinSection.cfm to join or renew. Use member number 364999 as a referral. :alright

Thanks again for supporting the club and encouraging people that are interested in the April event to join Badger Bimmers. We do so many events during the year, but without people joining the club and taking advantage of these events without paying their annual dues, it could be difficult to continue these nice events that we all enjoy.

The liability carrier has indicated that it is not entirely necessary for a partiscipant that is doing this event be a BMWCCA member for this event, but highly encouraged-less work on the back end if something unforutunate would happen. Also, at this event, there will be a seperate Badger Bimmer liability waiver that is signed by each partiscipant and anyone else in the vehicles.

I would definitly like to try one of these Ill put it on my calender

I would definitly like to try one of these Ill put it on my calender

Great! I'll add you to the contact list. Can you PM me your Full name, email address and phone number?

Thanks!

Great! I'll add you to the contact list. Can you PM me your Full name, email address and phone number?

Thanks!

Before we, well you, go much further, clarification is needed - is this a CCA event or an open event, where CCA members are invited?

Before we, well you, go much further, clarification is needed - is this a CCA event or an open event, where CCA members are invited?

This is a BMW CCA event, but you do not necessarily need to be member to run the event. I highly encourage non-members to consider purchasing a membership before the event, but this is not necessary. As stated below, if you are a member there are some insurance benefits, although I'm not exactly clear to what extent an event like this is insured. It sounds like the appropriate steps are being taken to ensure that Badger Bimmer doesn't incur any additional risk by a non-member running the event. Clear as mud? :D

The liability carrier has indicated that it is not entirely necessary for a partiscipant that is doing this event be a BMWCCA member for this event, but highly encouraged-less work on the back end if something unforutunate would happen. Also, at this event, there will be a seperate Badger Bimmer liability waiver that is signed by each partiscipant and anyone else in the vehicles.

This is a BMW CCA event, but you do not necessarily need to be member to run the event. I highly encourage non-members to consider purchasing a membership before the event, but this is not necessary. As stated below, if you are a member there are some insurance benefits, although I'm not exactly clear to what extent an event like this is insured. It sounds like the appropriate steps are being taken to ensure that Badger Bimmer doesn't incur any additional risk by a non-member running the event. Clear as mud? :D

We're golden :D.

Just bumpin' this to the top. Everyone make sure to mark you calendars!

April 27th, Mt. Horeb, WI (12 minutes west of Madison), $25/car entry fee. We'll be ending the Rallye at the Grumpy Trool brewpub when we're finished.

I'll continue to post with more info as the time gets closer.

Hey Dusten,

Are you guaranteeing clean roads by then? :lol3

Dusten,

What's going on with the rally?

-S

Dusten,

What's going on with the rally?

-S

Everything is set for it.

April 27th, Mt. Horeb, WI (12 minutes west of Madison), $25/car entry fee. We'll be ending the Rallye at the Grumpy Trool brewpub when we're finished.

I'll have a registration form ready for it soon, then I'll post a link so everyone interested can register online. Let me know if you need any additional information.

Everything is set for it.

April 27th, Mt. Horeb, WI (12 minutes west of Madison), $25/car entry fee. We'll be ending the Rallye at the Grumpy Trool brewpub when we're finished.

I'll have a registration form ready for it soon, then I'll post a link so everyone interested can register online. Let me know if you need any additional information.


I'm a n00b to rallies - I understand it is a timed event with various checkpoints (Like WRC)

So when we register we'll get a map w/ the various checkpoints - correct? And then it is a two person team 1 driver/navigator?

What are qualifications for the cars?

Where do you need volunteers and for what?

Can you volunteer to work before the rally and then participate in the rally?

I'm a n00b to rallies - I understand it is a timed event with various checkpoints (Like WRC)

Yep. You are given the Distance to a specific point and the speed you need to maintain. It's up to you to make sure you get there at the right time (you need to calculate the time). There is a wealth of information on the intraweb about TSD, here are a couple good links:
http://www.tsdroadrally.com/novice_or_nervous.cfm
http://www.tsdroadrally.com/on_time.cfm
http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~moose/plug.html

What Is A Road Rally?

* A Road Rally is not a race.
* A Road Rally is not illegal.
* A Road Rally does not require special equipment.
* A Road Rally is an amateur event.
* A Road Rally encourages novices to participate.
* A Road Rally is a lot of fun.

So when we register we'll get a map w/ the various checkpoints - correct? You'll get a set of driving instructions (no map) the day of the rally. You aren't given a lot of time with the instructions prior to the start, usually less than 30 minutes.

And then it is a two person team 1 driver/navigator?
Correct, you will need a navigator. Preferably on that is decent at math. :)

What are qualifications for the cars?
Street legal. Yes, even Hondas can TSD. ;)

Where do you need volunteers and for what?
We need volunteers to work the check points. Contact me directly if you'd like to volunteer.

Can you volunteer to work before the rally and then participate in the rally?No. You will be in the car during most of the rally, except for a couple breaks along the way. Count on spending much of the day driving.

This TSD rally will be enjoyable for both beginners and more experienced TSD'ers. Jim will make sure everyone is comfortable with what is going on before we start. He's a great instructor.

Yep. You are given the Distance to a specific point and the speed you need to maintain. It's up to you to make sure you get there at the right time (you need to calculate the time). There is a wealth of information on the intraweb about TSD, here are a couple good links:
http://www.tsdroadrally.com/novice_or_nervous.cfm
http://www.tsdroadrally.com/on_time.cfm
http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~moose/plug.html

What Is A Road Rally?

* A Road Rally is not a race.
* A Road Rally is not illegal.
* A Road Rally does not require special equipment.
* A Road Rally is an amateur event.
* A Road Rally encourages novices to participate.
* A Road Rally is a lot of fun.

You'll get a set of driving instructions (no map) the day of the rally. You aren't given a lot of time with the instructions prior to the start, usually less than 30 minutes.


Correct, you will need a navigator. Preferably on that is decent at math. :)


Street legal. Yes, even Hondas can TSD. ;)


We need volunteers to work the check points. Contact me directly if you'd like to volunteer.

No. You will be in the car during most of the rally, except for a couple breaks along the way. Count on spending much of the day driving.

This TSD rally will be enjoyable for both beginners and more experienced TSD'ers. Jim will make sure everyone is comfortable with what is going on before we start. He's a great instructor.

Excellent! :woot: :woot: And I don't have to worry about rear subframe failure either during the event to boot! ;):stickoutt:D

I'll talk to you Sat @ the board meeting. Figure it out then or shortly there after.

TSD RALLYE
OVERVIEW


Objective – To follow the course and arrive at all hidden timing controls at precisely the right time.
“The right place at the right time.”

Overview – Rallies are run in sections called legs. Each leg begins from an outmarker. You leave this outmarker at a specific time, at a specified speed, and at a given distance or mileage (typically 0.00) (Time = (60 / Speed) x Distance). The leg ends at a checkpoint. The checkpoint location is unknown and will usually be over a crest or around a corner. This is to make it difficult to predict where a control might be.

Equipment –

Car: Anything street legal. The only thing you need to be sure of, is that it will get you to and from the event.

Watch: The most important piece of equipment is a watch. I’d recommend a digital watch, it’s easier to read when timing is the second most critical element of a TSD event. You don’t want to enter a control on the wrong minute because it’s difficult to read your watch.

Odometer: A stock odometer is usable. A trip odometer is easier to work with. It allows you to zero the odometer at the start and anywhere else the instructions call for you to zero the odometer. It also allows you to use incremental mileages if they are given in the instructions. Incremental mileages are shorter intervals that keep odometer error less. An odometer that is able to be calibrated to the Rallye Masters is best. We’re now beginning to talk expense and you need to determine your interest in the sport.

Computer: These pieces calculate your time based on mileage and CAST (Distance and Speed). They’ll tell you if you’re on time, behind or early. They also have a correctable odometer. Websites for this equipment can be found at the end of this overview.

Details –

Official Time: The events are timed using clocks reading in hundredths or seconds. The timing measurement is determined at the discretion of the Rallye Masters. It is extremely important to set your watch with the Official Rallye Time. Official Rallye Time can be found at registration. All timing pieces used at Checkpoints will be set to this clock. Having your time piece agree to theirs will enhance your chances of scoring small numbers. You want to score zeroes.

Odometer Check: The first section of the rallye will consist of an odometer check. This will allow you to compare the reading of your odometer to the Official Rallye Mileage (ORM). It is strongly recommend that you calculate the Correction Factor since odometers will vary significantly. Calculating the error and applying it to the ORM will allow you to adjust course following mileages.

Odometer Correction Factor = Car Mileage
Official Mileage

After calculating your Correction Factor you would simply multiply all the ORM’s to correct them to what your odometer will display.
Route Instructions: Staying on course is the most important task in the event. If you don’t make the controls you can’t be scored. The Route Instructions are typically handed out thirty minutes prior to your time out. Verify that all pages are in the packet and that everything appears in order. Check that mileages and Numbered Route Instructions (NRI’s) are sequential. Generally the instructions will be in a format similar to this:

Column One – NRI (Numbered Route Instruction) must be completed in sequence.

Column Two – OM (Official Mileage) or ORM (Official Rally Mileage) from the last zero odometer point. This is the mileage where the NRI action should be executed.

Column Three – IM (Increment Mileage) or OIM (Official Increment Mileage) from the last NRI. Useful in determining mileage to next NRI. Useful when using a Trip Odometer.

Column Four – Action or Tulip. An Action instruction is an instruction that tells you what to do (i.e. left, right, straight). A Tulip instruction is a graphic, describing the intersection or action point, at the OM, the action is to be performed. You enter a tulip from the bottom represented by the circle or zero. Leave the tulip by the arrowhead.

Column Five – Instruction. These are very straightforward. They may indicate a reference for a tulip or action. They may instruct a CAST / Gain / Pause or other timing issue. If it makes sense and the mileage is correct, just do it. If there is no instruction at an intersection, proceed as straight as possible. Ignore private or dead end roads, unless specifically instructed otherwise.

CAST: Change Average Speed To - This is the speed to average and used to calculate your progress for a leg. Calculate the time between instructions using the CAST Factor by the interval distance.

CAST Factor – 60 / CAST = Factor 60/30 = 2.000 minutes per mile is the Factor
CAST Factor x Distance = Minutes. Add the minutes to your out time for the leg to determine the exact time you should be at when you reach the distance used in the equation.
Simplified – CAST 30 for 2 miles = 2.000 x 2 = :04.000 minutes. :04.000 added to an out time of 1:32 = 1:36.0000 at mile 2.00 of the leg.
Seconds – The Factor calculates time in hundredths. Multiply hundredths by 60 for seconds. Many TSD events will time in hundredths of a minute to make calculations easier.

Time = ( 60 / CAST ) x Distance


Pause / Gain: These are used in a rallye to quickly lose or make up time. A Pause is used to lose time after a Stoplight, Stop sign or other delay (i.e. Pause 50, means add 30 seconds or one half minute to your time). A Gain is used to make up time on a highway (i.e. Gain 100, means subtract one minute from your time). A CAST may not change from 30 for a section of 55 mph highway. You are expected to travel at 55 mph on the highway and the Gain would allow you to lose the time you have added to the clock and not delay traffic.

Transit or Free Zone: A Transit or Free Zone is a section of the rallye where there will be no Timing Controls (Checkpoint). You will be given a time to complete the Transit or be expected to keep track of your CAST time. Free Zones and Transits will typically take you through a town or down a highway for an extended period of time.

Controls or Checkpoints: The timing line for each Control will be identified by a CHECKPOINT (.) sign on the rightside of the road. When you enter the Control, drive past the Control Crew and send the driver back for the slip. Tell them your car number and give them any TIME DELAY slips you may have. They will give you a sticky back Timing Slip to attach to your Score Card. This slip will give you your In Time and Out Time and must have your Car Number and Leg Number. Check the Critique Slip for the Outmarker and drive up to it. Zero your odometer and pull ahead to wait for the time out. Do not block the Outmarker, other cars will likely be arriving prior to you departure time.

Critique Slip: A Critique Slip is given at a Checkpoint to give you pertinent information for the leg just completed and the next leg. It’ll give you the calculations for time on the previous leg. It will describe the Outmarker. It will give you a CAST for the next leg. An example is on the next page.

Critique Slip
Example: Leg #: 1 (Leg just completed)
Leg Mileage: 8.94 (Important for verifying odometer)
Leg Time: :34:57 (Time leg should have been completed)

Timing Log: Odometer Check :20.000 (20 minute odo check)
0.00 to 2.25 @ 30 :04.500 (2.25 miles @ CAST 30 = 4.50 Minutes)
2.25 to 8.11 @ 40 :08.790 (5.86 miles @ CAST 40 = 8.79 Minutes)
8.11 to 8.94 @ 30 :01.660 (.83 miles @ CAST 30 = 1.66 Minutes)
======
:34.950

:34.950 Hundredths to seconds .95 x 60 = 57 = :34:57

Outmarker: 9.30 OM “STOP” NRI L2-01 (Where next leg starts. Usually reset or zero odometer at outmarker.)
Next NRI: L1-10 (Usually redundant. Just pay attention. If you have a question ask someone.)
CAST: 45 (Pay attention, It may change at the control.)
Special Instruction: Reset odometer at outmarker.
Outmarker is at execution point of NRI L2-01

Pay attention to the Critique Slip information. It can be very instrumental in making the next control.

Time Allowance / Time Delay: This is a slip you will use to adjust your time into a Control to allow for delays. You may help someone that has gone into a ditch. You may be delayed by; a local sightseer, a train, animals in the road, or an off course excursion. It essentially is a Do-It-Yourself pause. It allows you to be half a minute late, plus X number of minutes (.50, 1.50, 2.50, etc.). There is no penalty for using one of these slips. Just remember a control team can only stay at a location for a limited time. Don’t expect them to be at a Control thirty minutes after the last car is scheduled in. The slip must be handed to the control crew prior to receiving your Time Slip, make sure they note the Time Allowance on the Time Slip they give you.

Timing: Each competitor is timed to the nearest second or hundredths of a minute. The increment is determined by the Rally Master. Points are usually accessed as follows:

Each second or hundredth of minute early or late: 1 point
More than one minute early or late: 60 or 100 points
Missing a control or entering backwards: 100 points
Creeping or Speeding: 50 points

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Keeping track of time is the essence of TSD Rallying. However, for the beginner, just staying on course is the main issue. Concentrate on course following, the time issue will fall in place surprisingly by itself.


Score Card: Score cards allow you to keep track of your leg scores and are used by the organizers to determine final positions of the rallye.

Example: Leg 1 Leg 2 Leg 3
Time In 1:37:53 2:14:33 2:52:11
Time Out 1:03:00 1:41:00 2:19:00
Elapsed :34:53 :33:33 :33:11
Official :34:57 :33:11 :33:11
Difference :00:04 :00:22 :00:00
Penalty 4 Points 22 Points 0 Points



Getting a Good Score:

#1: Stay on the road. Don’t get stuck in a ditch.

#2: Stay on course. If you don’t stay on course you won’t find the Timing Controls.

#3: Arrive on time. In order to arrive on time, concentrate on driving at a reasonably brisk but safe speed. You can make up time on straight exposed sections without exceeding 55 MPH. Following this procedure , you should be able to arrive at the CAST 30, NRI with time to spare. Stop, at a safe location, and wait for the clock to catch up. Then proceed to the next CAST - NRI using the same procedure.

In the a “Monte Carlo” type rallye Checkpoints are shown in the Route Instructions. This is not the norm. Typically Checkpoints can appear anywhere along the route. If you’re shooting for “Zeroes” stay on time all the time. This is where a digital watch is important. You don’t want to enter a control on the wrong minute. Easier to do with an digital watch.



Time Calculations: The starting time for a TSD is usually a predetermined time plus your car number. This time, referred to as First Car Out (FCO) is in the General Instructions. Assuming you have a Time to start, a Speed to travel and a Distance you can calculate your exact Time of Day for any point along the course. This is what you need to do to “Zero” a leg.

Example: FCO 1:00
Car Number 6
Odometer Check :20
Begin Leg 1 1:26.000 (After running odo check.)
CAST 30 0.00 to 2.25 :04.500 2.25 x 2.000 = 4.500
Pause 15 :00.250 (Converted to hundredths)
CAST 40 2.25 to 8.11 :08.790 5.86 x 1.500 = 8.790
Gain 100 -:01.000
CAST 30 8.11 to 8.94 :01.660 .83 x 2.000 = 1.660
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Time into Checkpoint 1 1:40.200 or 1:40:12 .2 x 60 = .12

To achieve a good score you must be able to calculate your time into the control to the nearest second or hundredth of a minute. The hundredth is easier to calculate, but your watch is in seconds. The difference can be confusing and cost you points

Example 2:

1) Determine your distance to the next CAST. 2.25 miles
2) Use the formula Time = (60/CAST)x Distance
3) 60 / 30 = 2.000 2.000 x 2.25 = 4.50 minutes
4) Your out time from the previous control or NRI was 1:26 and your CAST is 30 you should arrive at the next NRI with a CAST, 2.25 miles down the road at 1:30.50. If you arrive before this time wait for the clock to catch up. If you’re late try to pick up the pace (LEGALLY). If unable to scrub time off the clock be prepared to use a Time Allowance.
5) To convert the hundredth to seconds simply multiply the hundredths by 60. .50 x 60 = 30 seconds

Do this from CAST to CAST or into the Checkpoint. The Checkpoint is more difficult to calculate if you don’t know where it is. This now involves the driver constantly advising the co driver the mileage from the odometer.

Gary Starr’s EZ Timing Method is a way to attempt to do on time calculations in an event. It uses a simple calculator to keep you on time. www.scca-lol.org/rally/roadrally/eztime

Websites of Interest:

www.arrowheadscc.org
www.scca.org
www.w-a-g.org
www.time.gov/timezone
www.bensrallypage.com/

Equipment:

http://rally.cc/
http://coralba.com/rally/
www.terratrip.com
http://home.comcast.net/~timewise1/

Glossary:

Acute – A left or right of more than 90 degrees

Bear – A left or right of less than 90 degrees

DIYC – Do It Yourself Control

T or Tee – An intersection of exactly three roads having the general shape of the letter “T” as approached from the base. You must turn left or right at a tee. It will be covered in the route instructions. If not you are probably off course.

Ill be there

We should create a sign up list and pairing team.

We should create a sign up list and pairing team.

I have a list of people that have RSVP'd for the event. I have full names, not bf.c usenames. So far I have all pairs, no singles yet. Still looking for volunteers too.

We have 5 officially registered teams as of right now. Please email me (dustent@msn.com) if you would like to register. I will maintain a list of 'singles' and work to get drivers paired up with navigators. Also email me if you'd like to volunteer to work checkpoints with me, it's fun.

Dusten
Im in - Either I'll drive or work it. I'll let you know as soon as I find out if I have a navigator.

In any event I'll be there.

(BTW, if the roads are God awful as they are now, I am working. There is no way the Accord is getting punished like that. :nono:nono:nono)

Dusten
Im in - Either I'll drive or work it. I'll let you know as soon as I find out if I have a navigator.

In any event I'll be there.

(BTW, if the roads are God awful as they are now, I am working. There is no way the Accord is getting punished like that. :nono:nono:nono)

Sounds good.

As far as the roads go, I'll check them out next week. There isn't much traffic on these roads, so they won't be nearly as beat up as the high traffic areas in town. Hopefully we get some rain soon to help wash the sand off the roads.

Funny, as I'm typing this NBC 15 is reporting on pothole damage: http://www.nbc15.com/home/headlines/16965801.html

The roads out there aren't bad at all as far as potholes and such go... they're still pebbly and salty, but nothing truly hazardous, and nothing that the forecasted rain can't help.

I'll get to you soon once I confirm a co-drive.

Bump because it's raining. :alright

I had another team contact me today to register, we are up to 7 teams so far.

Date: April 27th
Time: 10am
Where: Mt. Horeb Park and Ride (http://www.dot.wisconsin.gov/travel/parkride/lots/dan1310.htm)
Cost: $25 per car

DO IT!

Still looking for a couple more volunteers too!

Official Rallye information!

I updated post #1 and sent out an email this morning to everyone that has contacted me about the event. If you need more details read below, or email me. dustent@msn.com

Hello everyone!

This is just a friendly reminder that the Badger Bimmers will be holding a Spring TSD Rallye in the Mt. Horeb area (just outside of Madison) on April 27th. Rallye Master Jim Jurgenson has put together a TSD that will be great for beginners and seasoned veterans alike. If you haven’t enjoyed the roads in this area, you are really missing out!

At 10am we will begin registration at the Mount Horeb park and ride lot. To reach the Mount Horeb park and ride, take US 18/151 south out of Madison. Take exit 65, turn left (south) on WIS 78. The park and ride is located at the end of a short driveway on the right. (http://www.dot.wisconsin.gov/travel/parkride/lots/dan1310.htm) A $25/per car registration fee will be collected at that time. Once registration is complete Jim will give instructions for our first timers and answer any questions.

First car out will be at 12:01. The rallye will last ~5 hours and route us through the incredible Mount Horeb landscape. We will finish around 5pm at The Grumpy Troll Brew Pub in historic downtown Mount Horeb (http://www.thegrumpytroll.com/) where final scoring will take place along with trophies, food and spirits.

If you have any questions, please let me know. If you are planning on attending this event as a volunteer or participant and you haven’t emailed me yet to register, please do so soon. We need an accurate count for reservations. We could still use a couple more volunteers as well.

Badger Bimmer's Spring TSD Rallye
Date: April 27th
Where: Mt. Horeb Park and Ride
Cost: $25 per car
Registration Starts at 10am
First car out at 12:01pm
End at The Grumpy Troll Brew Pub ~5pm for final scoring/trophies/food/drink

Feel free to forward this announcement on to anyone I may have missed.

Cheers,
Dusten Tornow
Badger Bimmers Madison Liaison

Quick question, when do you actually "hit" a checkpoint? Is it when they first see you, or when you physically pass them?

Quick question, when do you actually "hit" a checkpoint? Is it when they first see you, or when you physically pass them?

When you physically pass it, when your front bumper crosses the CheckPoint. One thing to note: stopping within viewing distance of a checkpoint is frowned upon and my be penalized. You must maintain your speed through to the checkpoint, otherwise you could just rip through the section, park and wait for your time to catch up. :) Tricky, eh?

When you physically pass it, when your front bumper crosses the CheckPoint. One thing to note: stopping within viewing distance of a checkpoint is frowned upon and my be penalized. You must maintain your speed through to the checkpoint, otherwise you could just rip through the section, park and wait for your time to catch up. :) Tricky, eh?

Exactly what I was wondering about :D

Exactly what I was wondering about :D

Are you interested in running? Otherwise you can help me work checkpoints.

How many people do you have that don't have partners for the event?

How many people do you have that don't have partners for the event?

At this point I have you and nort0188 (Colin), and 7 officially registered teams. Would you guys be interested in volunteering?

At this point I have you and nort0188 (Colin), and 7 officially registered teams. Would you guys be interested in volunteering?

Just confirmed my navigator, I'll send you an email with names.

Just confirmed my navigator, I'll send you an email with names.

SWEET!

EDIT: I received two more registrations today, so we are up to 9 registered teams.

MOAR!!!

Bump to the top!

Be sure to email me to RSVP your spot in the Rallye: dustent@msn.com

This is this coming Sunday! We have the upstairs reserved at The Grumpy Trool for after the event too!

Bahhhhhh, navigator bailed... :( I'll have to see if I can't find someone else, otherwise I'd be happy to help you guys out at checkpoints and such.

Bahhhhhh, navigator bailed... :( I'll have to see if I can't find someone else, otherwise I'd be happy to help you guys out at checkpoints and such.

PM and text message sent.

Bahhhhhh, navigator bailed... :( I'll have to see if I can't find someone else, otherwise I'd be happy to help you guys out at checkpoints and such.

My driver couldn't get off of work. I'll be bringing the trophies to Madison, so if you need a navigator yet let me know.

I still need volunteers. ;)

Jason, Colin and Sachin - I need at least two more volunteers. Can I count on some or all of you? Beers are on me after the event for the volunteers! :alright

Everyone else - We are up to 12 teams that have already RSVP'd for the TSD. See everyone there!

Jason, Colin and Sachin - I need at least two more volunteers. Can I count on some or all of you? Beers are on me after the event for the volunteers! :alright

Everyone else - We are up to 12 teams that have already RSVP'd for the TSD. See everyone there!


Sorry - I have a navigator. I sent a PM to Jason & Colin to see if they wanted to pair up since both of their teammates bailed. Sorry.

I did talk to Jason though - he is coming up w/ me.

IDK if I know anyone that would volunteer either. Sorry.

Sorry - I have a navigator. I sent a PM to Jason & Colin to see if they wanted to pair up since both of their teammates bailed. Sorry.

I did talk to Jason though - he is coming up w/ me.

IDK if I know anyone that would volunteer either. Sorry.

Ok, I PM'd Jason and Colin to see if they can help. Is anyone else interested in volunteering for the rallye? I need two more people to work checkpoints.

Ok, I PM'd Jason and Colin to see if they can help. Is anyone else interested in volunteering for the rallye? I need two more people to work checkpoints.

I'm in. Lemme know if you need me to bring anything.

I'm in. Lemme know if you need me to bring anything.

Replied via PM. We might need one more to work with Jason if he can't con a friend into helping him. :devillook

In as volunteer :)

In as volunteer :)

Success! Perfect, now we are fully staffed. Colin and Jason - You'll be working together. It sounds like Jason was planning on carpooling with Sachin, so if you could use Colin's car that would work out well. You guys figure it out. :) I'll see you at 10am on Sunday, rain or shine!

Cheers!

Success! Perfect, now we are fully staffed. Colin and Jason - You'll be working together. It sounds like Jason was planning on carpooling with Sachin, so if you could use Colin's car that would work out well. You guys figure it out. :) I'll see you at 10am on Sunday, rain or shine!

Cheers!

That'll work

Success! Perfect, now we are fully staffed. Colin and Jason - You'll be working together. It sounds like Jason was planning on carpooling with Sachin, so if you could use Colin's car that would work out well. You guys figure it out. :) I'll see you at 10am on Sunday, rain or shine!

Cheers!

That'll work

Woot :redspot

I got the General Instructions from Jim last night, I'll be emailing them out later today to everyone that has contacted me.

Looks like we'll have a chilly start to the morning, but no rain or snow to worry about! w00t!

See everyone out there at 10am.

Thanks to everyone that came out today. We had 9 teams so up and everyone finished. Everyone did a great job. Major props to Colin and Jason for helping run checkpoints today, thanks for stepping up guys.

Let me know what you liked, or didn't like about the rallye. We'll get another one going this fall, so everyone can use their new found skills soon!

wish i could have made it, if another one is in the fall i will be down for sure. The 02 will be ready, possibly with an s14 in it :devillook