Hi all.

I have both the red and silver bottles of Klasse, and its pretty good stuff.

1. Do you use a separate paint cleaner before applying the red bottle Klasse? I know the red is an all-in-one cleaner/protectant, but still.... (My paint is generally kept in quite good shape however...)

2. How many coats of Klasse/wax/whatever do you usually put on? I only do one coat each of cleaner/polish/wax, but after reading a few posts here, I think I should put on more coats.

Specifically, I'm thinking of following one regimen I saw posted here and do:

a) Possibly a separate Zymol paint cleaner, depending on what you guys say here

b) Two coats red bottle Klasse

c) Two or three coats Meguiars Show Car Glaze

d) Two or three coats Klasse silver

e) Two or three coats Meguiars Hi-tech yellow carnauba wax

What do you think? Maybe leave out the meguiars glaze?

Thanks!!!

First off, most people refer to the products by the abbreviations AIO for the red bottled all in one, and SG for the silver bottled high gloss sealant glaze.

1) You can use a seperate paint cleaner or swirl remover if your car is in need of some help, or swirled noticeably, but if your paint is in good condition just go right to the AIO. You won't need to worry about removing the oils in them because the AIO will do that just fine.

2) For Klasse AIO there is no reason to put on any more than 1 coat, as each subsequent coat will just remove the previous one. The SG can be layered, but doing so is almost entirely an cosmetic process. I would recommend 2 coats of SG (make sure you wait at least 24 hours between coats)

Next, I wouldn't bother with Zymol stuff. Its rather pricey and while it does yield decent results, you can get better for cheaper. You can actually get some pretty good swirl removers at Pep Boys. I would recommend either Meguiars #9 or 3M Swirl Mark Remover. If you feel like ordering online there are many many more options for you to try.

For your sequence of things, leave out the Show Car Glaze. Its a good product, but using it after the AIO will just remove all the AIO, and leave a very poor surface for the SG to bond to (the SG needs an oil free paint surface, Show Car Glaze is full of oils). Also, go with just one coat of the AIO, no point to use any more energy or product.

2-3 coats of the SG sounds good, just make sure you let it sit for 24 hours before you apply the second and third coats (when I used Klasse I put another layer of SG on after the weekly wash for about a month)

Also, the Hi Tech Yellow (#26) is a good durable carnuba. One coat of it after you've applied your SG should be plenty though. It's probably the best wax you can buy at a local auto parts store. If you feel like you want a better wax, stop by your local Harley dealer and pick up some S100 paste wax. Applying it is like rubbing melted butter on your paint, and removing it is easier than any other wax I've ever tried... and the shine is GREAT too.

Hope I've helped.

You could use a swirl remover or glaze before applying AIO to try and remove/fill swirls. As the previous post mentioned, only use one layer of AIO unless your paint is quite dirty. If you do apply two layers of AIO then the first coat would clean the paint and the second would offer protection. I, personally, just tried one layer of AIO followed by multiple coats of P21S wax. The results were pretty impressive. I also just tried the AIO + multiple coats of SG on my wife's black Honda Accord Coupe...and I'm also VERY impressed. I'm actually thinking about trying the SG on my LSB M3 as well. the SG really made the black paint very mirror like...I think more so than just a polish/wax would do.

Here are a few pics of AIO with a couple coats of P21S...



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http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid42/p253e56a603e753b4ee5255fda772c9bd/fcec97df.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid42/p9596cabfa5dddf9d39cf44efef62af0a/fcec97e1.jpg