This is getting good.



http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95619


:redspot

Hehe I wonder if his boost got stuck @ 20psi? Just kidding, great time and nice trap, regardless of the boost level. I'll have to raise the boost and get up to Sac for a few runs one of these days.

PS. Got to race a couple more Procede V2 cars tonight. I hope they post up the results. ;)

Hehe I wonder if his boost got stuck @ 20psi? Just kidding, great time and nice trap, regardless of the boost level. I'll have to raise the boost and get up to Sac for a few runs one of these days.

PS. Got to race a couple more Procede V2 cars tonight. I hope they post up the results.
Did you race walked u?

Did you race walked u?


With all of Walked U's mods, Terry would have to run his race gas map to even have a chance.............thats with Walked U running regular gas, I talk to him on a weekly basis

With all of Walked U's mods, Terry would have to run his race gas map to even have a chance.............thats with Walked U running regular gas, I talk to him on a weekly basis

No I wanted to, but the timing didn't work out. They went to run some AMG and three of us hit the 405 on the way back.

It was down4it w/ V2, race gas, ic, dp, exhaust and Adam (bige818ak?) w/ V2 + exhaust.

I was on 94 octane (testing it out for 94 octane pump guys), R switch, stock mufflers, etc. We did many runs all with the same result... :)

No I wanted to, but the timing didn't work out. They went to run some AMG and three of us hit the 405 on the way back.

It was down4it w/ V2, race gas, ic, dp, exhaust and Adam (bige818ak?) w/ V2 + exhaust.

I was on 94 octane (testing it out for 94 octane pump guys), R switch, stock mufflers, etc. We did many runs all with the same result... :)


so you lost every time by at least a car length?? I am assumin Down4it beat you and Adam was a closer race but still won..........??

so you lost every time by at least a car length?? I am assumin Down4it beat you and Adam was a closer race but still won..........??


Haha no I don't want to brag because those are two cool guys but I put ~2cars on Adam and at least a car on Oren each time.

Haha no I don't want to brag because those are two cool guys but I put ~2cars on Adam and at least a car on Warren each time.


Hard to believe, and I heard your "R" switch is detremental to the engine and is not recommended for constant use..............what is the "R" switch and you were running 94 octane and nothing else besides your program?? Makes no sense with your low outputs of HP and TQ with the JB2

Oh this is too much :lol3

Hard to believe, and I heard your "R" switch is detremental to the engine and is not recommended for constant use..............what is the "R" switch and you were running 94 octane and nothing else besides your program?? Makes no sense with your low outputs of HP and TQ with the JB2

The "R" switch is suggested for 96+ octane (I was just testing 94 octane to see if it will throw a limp, etc). It's 14psi, and my other mods are air filter, 2nd cat delete, and drag radials. Of course the drag radials didn't help much as we were racing from a roll -- and I might add they are a bit scary @ 110-120mph @ 22psi!

The "R" tune is pretty mild (e.g. so it won't blow up in case someone decides to run it on pump gas accidentally), but more aggressive than the normal JB2 tune. I picked up ~20rwhp on the dyno with the "R".

Oh this is too much :lol3

Hey Shiv, ask your boys how the runs went. I'm running our off the shelf JB2 + R, 94 octane. No special 18psi maps or custom air intakes here. :)
I'll come down to Sac one of these days and spin my way up to 116mph traps for you...

:rolleyes

I guess you will have to race me, running no cats with DP's and Meisterchaft FULL exhaust and the V2.0.2 version which is the most updated and AA's intercooler................

:rolleyes

Have you figured out what you're going to tell your V2 customers when they start turning in 108-109mph at the track with your 2.02 map on pump gas? I can see it now: "Shiv: Why is your car so much faster???"

I guess you will have to race me, running no cats with DP's and Meisterchaft FULL exhaust and the V2.0.2 version which is the most updated and AA's intercooler................

Terry, who came to last night's SoCal meet on drag radials and -i'm quite sure- race gas, refused to race Sherwin last night. What are the chances that he'll race you? lol

Don't worry Terry. We'll see quite a few v2.0.2 running 116+mph trap speeds soon enough. I think the chances of that are far greater than you picking up another 7mph in trap speed. Might want to try a 3.3k ohm resistor next time. That should get you the extra 70-80whp you need.

I'm getting so tired of your sh#t talk. At first, you were amusing. Your lies, flames, jabs, etc,. Now, you are just annoying.

shiv

Terry, who came to the meet on drag radials and i'm quite sure race gas, refused to race Sherwin last night. What are the chances that he'll race you? lol

What??? We (the three of us from the LA area) offered to race Sherwin but he decided to race another guy, plus they're talking about running up to 150mph on the street, taking off plates, and running from cops. Not exactly my style. I'll meet up with him one of these nights for a few runs, but I'd prefer he come to our private track day on the 30th. Let's see if he can trap 116.

I was on Nitto 555Rs, the ones with 8k miles, as I run them daily. I had ~94 octane and was happy to tell anyone that cared that.

Terry, who came to last night's SoCal meet on drag radials and -i'm quite sure- race gas, refused to race Sherwin last night. What are the chances that he'll race you? lol

Don't worry Terry. We'll see quite a few v2.0.2 running 116+mph trap speeds soon enough. I think the chances of that are far greater than you picking up another 7mph in trap speed. Might want to try a 3.3k ohm resistor next time. That should get you the extra 70-80whp you need.

I'm getting so tired of your sh#t talk. At first, you were amusing. Your lies, flames, jabs, etc,. Now, you are just annoying.

shiv

Hey Shiv, pretty ironic talking about resistors considering your V2 harness is two 120ohm 25w resistors with shrink wrap and some wire. Anyone can reproduce one in 10 minutes for around $9. Maybe I should post a DIY myself... and I'd love to see you get our fuel enrichment and refined power curve with your radio shack tune. The JB2 components and integrated circuit are special ordered and take over an hour to hand assemble and solder.

How anyone buys anything from any of you guys is beyond me. Like watching highschool kids fighting :nono. Just my opinion and thanks in advance in you decide to flame me for it.

I guess you will have to race me, running no cats with DP's and Meisterchaft FULL exhaust and the V2.0.2 version which is the most updated and AA's intercooler................

Timeslip?

OMG! This is painful.

Terry, who came to last night's SoCal meet on drag radials and -i'm quite sure- race gas, refused to race Sherwin last night. What are the chances that he'll race you? lol

Don't worry Terry. We'll see quite a few v2.0.2 running 116+mph trap speeds soon enough. I think the chances of that are far greater than you picking up another 7mph in trap speed. Might want to try a 3.3k ohm resistor next time. That should get you the extra 70-80whp you need.

I'm getting so tired of your sh#t talk. At first, you were amusing. Your lies, flames, jabs, etc,. Now, you are just annoying.

shiv

Hi Shiv,

What does it say about you that you're spending your time here sparring with Terry rather than serving the hundreds of unserved customers you have waiting for a product they ordered two and a half months ago? We're not out to be the fastest kids on the block, but we are committed to providing not just a quality product but quality customer service as well. To achieve that, we keep our products in stock, and we go the extra mile to provide after-purchase support.

That's why we have "No BS, No Excuses" in our ads on Dragtimes.com. When it comes down to it, we want everyone to have a good time and a pleasant ordering experience. When you buy from us, we ship the same day or the next day. Making your customers wait week after week for a product that you've charged them for and hasn't shipped is an unacceptable practice. This is doubly so considering you're spending your time fooling around with analog circuits for the sole purpose of taking a swipe at us. You and I both know that those V2 harnesses could be knocked out in less than 15 minutes each and for less than $10.

I don't need to address the problems your customers have had with wildly varying boost levels or limp codes - you know how serious that is. And you know you should be spending your time doing anything but this.

Is that your fallback plan? I was hoping for more given your boss's behind-the-scene's-behavior. And I think you know what i'm talking about.

Both of you, back to your customers. This is rediculous.

Is that your fallback plan? I was hoping for more given your boss's behind-the-scene's-behavior. And I think you know what i'm talking about.

I'm not quite sure what you're referring to. I really don't see how me racing a few friends that happen to be your customers qualifies as unsavory behavior. I gave you a thumbs-up on your 400rwhp dynos and now your track runs, and I'm going to get to work beating those numbers and times. What I won't do is be dishonest about the boost numbers I'm working with, as customers will need to appreciate the risk that comes with 16,17,18psi before I'll sell anything to them.

Also contrary to popular belief I run my car every two months or so, as the 1/4 mile tracks around here are almost never open. We have a good opportunity Nov 30th (two weeks from now) to get a bunch of cars together and race same track/same day. I encourage you to get a few of your customers out, and I will do the same. .. and I will have a portable boost gauge with me. :)

keep it going guys!! this is entertaining! it is a very slow day in the stock market so i have nothing going on. any updates on the v2 shipping? i ordered mine like 45 days ago.

lol wow @ this thread.

lol wow @ this thread.

Never ending drama here. :) Do you have Sherwin's email or AIM? Funny that Shiv claims I refused to race him, it didn't seem that way to me, but lets make it happen.

I guess you will have to race me, running no cats with DP's and Meisterchaft FULL exhaust and the V2.0.2 version which is the most updated and AA's intercooler................

I would love to! I have an AA intercooler on order also, and am working on getting some downpipes. Meet you half way in Oklahoma? :stickoutt

Ahh, just like the good old days. Except now that I think about it, they weren't all that good. Maybe my maturity is finally catching up to my chronology - scary to contemplate.

Ahh, just like the good old days. Except now that I think about it, they weren't all that good. Maybe my maturity is finally catching up to my chronology - scary to contemplate.


I agree. Go away for a few weeks, and look what happens.

Lawdude only likes trouble when he's the one stirring it up. :D

Vinshu, Terry, why do you guys fight? You cater to separate clientelle:

Terry with his JuiceBox cater to the poor ricer who borrowed daddy's money to buy a car far beyond his budget and is too dumb to know it really is just a collection of cheapo resistors and wires glued with saliva.

Vinshu with your Xede, you cater to the more knowledgeable crowd with more $$$ who is not afraid to die in a massive engine explosion due to way off limit boost pressures and amateurish tuning.

So stop fighting...

Vinshu, Terry, why do you guys fight? You cater to separate clientelle:

Terry with his JuiceBox cater to the poor ricer who borrowed daddy's money to buy a car far beyond his budget and is too dumb to know it really is just a collection of cheapo resistors and wires glued with saliva.

Vinshu with your Xede, you cater to the more knowledgeable crowd with more $$$ who is not afraid to die in a massive engine explosion due to way off limit boost pressures and amateurish tuning.

So stop fighting...
:lol Hilarious. and I though I never understood British humour.

Vinshu, Terry, why do you guys fight? You cater to separate clientelle:

Terry with his JuiceBox cater to the poor ricer who borrowed daddy's money to buy a car far beyond his budget and is too dumb to know it really is just a collection of cheapo resistors and wires glued with saliva.

Vinshu with your Xede, you cater to the more knowledgeable crowd with more $$$ who is not afraid to die in a massive engine explosion due to way off limit boost pressures and amateurish tuning.

So stop fighting...

This thread is beginning to remind me of a website forum I was on years ago called OffshoreOnly.com, it catered to the offshore powerboat people, whose motors cost more than our cars...sometimes several of them (so that we're clear I'm talking about motors that cost upwards of $150,000 each...and some of these boats have three of them...so do the math), it was always interesting to see and sometimes be a part of these arguments, I took part in more of them than I care to remember.

I actually thought that this site might have been different...and thus far it really is as there doesn't seem to be as much of it as was at OffshoreOnly...but hey, what good is it if you can't get into a heated debate once in a while.

What really burns me are the remarks that Paunuco made...I would have to disagree with your statements, I just purchased the JB2 with the "R" upgrade. It should arrive tomorrow for a weekend installation. I hardly classify myself as "the poor ricer who borrowed daddy's money to buy a car far beyond his budget and is too dumb to know it really is just a collection of cheapo resistors and wires glued with saliva." I would consider myself far from poor...my last boat probably cost more than your home...possibly even the engine for that matter...and as far as intelligence, I don't consider myself all that dumb...out of college I actually owned and operated my own Goodyear Tire and Service franchise...for fun I spent some time gaining my ASE certifications in five areas...enough to be considered a master technician...now I certainly don't claim to be a computer expert or diagnostic genius and certainly not a tuner...but I did weigh the pro's and con's of what I want out of this car...the JB2 will provide more than enough power for my first upgrade...and if it isn't maybe I'll pull the heart and soul out of the car and put in an LS1...drop the weight a few hundred pounds by pulling out every imaginable part that isn't deemed necessary and then go racing...now I could smoke every chipped 335 on the planet if I actually wanted to do that...money isn't the issue and that's not why I chose the JB2...but I could if I wanted. I think I'll be happy with the modest boost and let the engine enjoy and turbo enjoy a longer, more reliable life.

I don't think that owning a Xede makes you any more intelligent or any wealthier...and I would hope it wouldn't put you at any risk of blowing up in your car. I know I would have a problem waiting 45+ days to get something I wanted...I'm a buy now, get now guy...so patience isn't my best virtue.

Now that I've gotten all that off my chest, let's let the flaming begin...OffshoreOnly style!!

Oh and so you know, I'm not really trying to lambaste you here...I'm too new, I wouldn't do that. I did find your post entertaining, and hopefully that was your intent.

What really burns me are the remarks that Paunuco made...I would have to disagree with your statements, I just purchased the JB2 with the "R" upgrade. It should arrive tomorrow for a weekend installation. I hardly classify myself as "the poor ricer who borrowed daddy's money to buy a car far beyond his budget and is too dumb to know it really is just a collection of cheapo resistors and wires glued with saliva." I would consider myself far from poor...

You should have purchased the Xede then!!!

but I did weigh the pro's and con's of what I want out of this car...the JB2 will provide more than enough power for my first upgrade...and if it isn't maybe I'll pull the heart and soul out of the car and put in an LS1...drop the weight a few hundred pounds by pulling out every imaginable part that isn't deemed necessary and then go racing...now I could smoke every chipped 335 on the planet if I actually wanted to do that...money isn't the issue and that's not why I chose the JB2...but I could if I wanted. I think I'll be happy with the modest boost and let the engine enjoy and turbo enjoy a longer, more reliable life.

I don't think that owning a Xede makes you any more intelligent or any wealthier...and I would hope it wouldn't put you at any risk of blowing up in your car. I know I would have a problem waiting 45+ days to get something I wanted...I'm a buy now, get now guy...so patience isn't my best virtue.



Hi Rich, very well said. The majority of our customers aren't looking for the most horsepower, just safe reliable gains with good customer support. You won't be disappointed!

One of the guys I raced last night posted:

www.e90post.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1690797&postcount=53 (http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1690797&postcount=53)

It's always difficult to have an apples to apples race as everyone tends to run different wheels, exhausts, etc, but the moral of the story is that the JB2R puts its owner in the position to match or beat a procede V2 car. It will depend on the supporting mods and driver just as any close race does.

For the average customer, the JB2 is more than enough power, but for those of you who like a little extra performance, the "R" is not a bad way to go.

Also just to clarify (not that it really matters), but I was on 94 octane, cutouts closed, and 1/3 tank of gas. I have full power seats, moonroof, etc, but no nav system. I'm an automatic transmission which is worse in the weight/parasitic losses department, but better for fast shifts. Races were from ~40mph to ~110mph.

I am wondering why this car causes so much drama in the tuning industry? Beyond me. Either way, good job Terry.

How anyone buys anything from any of you guys is beyond me. Like watching highschool kids fighting :nono. Just my opinion and thanks in advance in you decide to flame me for it.

I completely agree. I'll bet you a dollar the one who really benefits from this nonsense is Jeff at Eurobahn who seems to be the only Tuner vendor with any class.

Vinshu, Terry, why do you guys fight? You cater to separate clientelle:

Terry with his JuiceBox cater to the poor ricer who borrowed daddy's money to buy a car far beyond his budget and is too dumb to know it really is just a collection of cheapo resistors and wires glued with saliva.

Vinshu with your Xede, you cater to the more knowledgeable crowd with more $$$ who is not afraid to die in a massive engine explosion due to way off limit boost pressures and amateurish tuning.

So stop fighting...

Reading this makes me think you described yourself! I think all cool guy post should include a picture of the person so we can judge the book.

You should have purchased the Xede then!!!

I'm not saying there's a hidden agenda here...but maybe a bit of ignorance...and that's not a slam...it just appears that you really didn't have anything nice to say about either product...so I am a bit confused as to what you're talking about or where you're going with your comments. It appears the two products basically cater to the same automobile owners, but only with slightly different objectives...I know how much boost I am willing to put on my car...and for that you seem to be ripping on me...indirectly of course. You're calling me poor, but also stating I should be smart enough to create the pieces myself...well, it would stand to reason if this product delivers what I want and I choose to buy it instead of make it I must not be as poor as you've believe I am, or I would have built it myself...but I can't do that if I am stupid now can I...hell this is one big visious circle here...it's even confusing me. Please enlighten me, which product to do you have?

I ordered my JB2 yesterday and received it today...not bad service...not bad at all. I am looking forward to the weekend...should be a fun time.

While I congratulate Shiv on his recent trap and ET, why come in Terry's thread and start crap? Just looks bad :shifty

I wanna say this is a waste of time but now here I am.

If you wanna go fast in a straight line then wowy, zowy, get one (who really cares) and start dodging more mini vans per mile than the 335s w/o one. WoooooHooooo.

While I congratulate Shiv on his recent trap and ET, why come in Terry's thread and start crap? Just looks bad :shifty

Terry was not the original poster....he didn't start this thread and the car being talked about is Shiv's car w/ the Procede V2. Why would this be Terry's thread? He was however, the first to respond (to a post about Shiv and the Procede...imagine that). This shouldn't have been a surprise and is classic Terry (if you know the history).

Just got done reading some of the posts on E90Post...man is it getting heated over there...it's one big viscious attack after another. I think a pitbull got loose in one of the threads and got ahold of someones leg...gonna need some stitches.

Terry was not the original poster....he didn't start this thread and the car being talked about is Shiv's car w/ the Procede V2. Why would this be Terry's thread? He was however, the first to respond (to a post about Shiv and the Procede...imagine that). This shouldn't have been a surprise and is classic Terry (if you know the history).

I know the history since day one. Shiv is still doing what he always did... except if Terry does it, its all of a sudden 'wrong'. Doesn't look like that will ever change.

Terry was just giving some race results. I guess the results didn't please Shiv.

What gets me is that it doesn't seem like regular customers are privy to Shivs special software. Regular customers are just now catching up to Shivs 111 mph he ran nearly 1 year ago. No V2 then. Makes you wonder how long Shiv has been running 98 octane. Nothing wrong with race gas, but full disclosure is nice.

I know the history since day one. Shiv is still doing what he always did... except if Terry does it, its all of a sudden 'wrong'. Doesn't look like that will ever change.

Terry was just giving some race results. I guess the results didn't please Shiv.

What gets me is that it doesn't seem like regular customers are privy to Shivs special software. Regular customers are just now catching up to Shivs 111 mph he ran nearly 1 year ago. No V2 then. Makes you wonder how long Shiv has been running 98 octane. Nothing wrong with race gas, but full disclosure is nice.

No musc he ran 117mph on his normal 2.02 map, the same map customers will have starting this week. Can't wait to see how they run. :stickoutt Love a pic of that custom "air intake" (little K&Ns attached directly to turbo?).

...I'll be happy with the modest boost and let the engine enjoy and turbo enjoy a longer, more reliable life...

+1 That's why I chose JBS2 over anything else. Price just happened to be the lowest of the available tunes.

I'm also not ready for all the bells and whistles that come with Procede...

I know the history since day one. Shiv is still doing what he always did... except if Terry does it, its all of a sudden 'wrong'. Doesn't look like that will ever change.

Terry was just giving some race results. I guess the results didn't please Shiv.

What gets me is that it doesn't seem like regular customers are privy to Shivs special software. Regular customers are just now catching up to Shivs 111 mph he ran nearly 1 year ago. No V2 then. Makes you wonder how long Shiv has been running 98 octane. Nothing wrong with race gas, but full disclosure is nice.
You said this was Terry's thread - he was not the person who posted the original post. If anything, it was a thread to let people know what V2 did....Terry was not only giving race results...he immediately started w/his usual anti-Vishnu propaganda. I don't quite understand why he has this obsession with Vishnu, and I doubt you can see past your bias - since you think this is "Terry's thread".

Reading this makes me think you described yourself! I think all cool guy post should include a picture of the person so we can judge the book.

I do believe he was joking about both, playing the arguement that often is hit on each tuner.

You guys are all morons. We were having a very nice, graphic and idiotic fight between the two ricer tuners when all of the sudden people start posting "don't fight" posts and the like...

My God why?!?! If they want to exchange plesantries so let them, its free entertainment =)

PS. Got to race a couple more Procede V2 cars tonight. I hope they post up the results. ;)
One of them did make a thread or made a post in one of the threads but I think it got deleted. I wonder why... :rolleyes

Not only is this the third or fourth thread on the same damn topic, but once again tuners manage to turn into little girls, and argue over which product is better.

Just prove your point with results, not your gay e-fights.

keep it going guys!! this is entertaining! it is a very slow day in the stock market so i have nothing going on. any updates on the v2 shipping? i ordered mine like 45 days ago.

Thats just ridicouls!!! SHIV pull your head out of your ass!!! 45 days damb dude your working that net30!!!

One of them did make a thread or made a post in one of the threads but I think it got deleted. I wonder why... :rolleyes

It's all good, as more people get their hands on the V2 and "R" upgrades I'm sure we'll see plenty of dynos, time slips, and videos posted up. :D

No musc he ran 117mph on his normal 2.02 map, the same map customers will have starting this week. Can't wait to see how they run. :stickoutt Love a pic of that custom "air intake" (little K&Ns attached directly to turbo?).

Lol, yep a normal map. No one really knows. I just saw the details where they mention a prototype intake. Maybe they dremeled the fins from under the intake lid? :eek:

-212 DA helps. I'd like to see CEAs car run with 30-40 more hp. I think he could have added 4 more mph to his last run.

O'well it turns out I got this thread closed right when I was about to post what Shiv had requested of me:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94046&page=7

O'well it turns out I got this thread closed right when I was about to post what Shiv had requested of me:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94046&page=7

Post it here.

O'well it turns out I got this thread closed right when I was about to post what Shiv had requested of me:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94046&page=7


Yikes.. well I think you had a valid point, and I've heard it from more than one enthusiast. Cut out the bickering and focus on YOUR product. I started a new thread here in that vein, and to mitigate any damage that someone else might be trying to cause by suggesting our tunes are not safe.

Post it here.

Originally Posted by B'CahiLL-The Boss http://www.e90post.com/forums/ver5/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1688609#post1688609)
That's a crazy trap speed...

faster than the JBS2R w / Riss Down Pipes.

116+ is fast
FWIW, we ran 109 trap speeds last weekend on our car (same set-up) with $6.50 worth of Radio Shack electronics. Basically just a bypass plug with a couple components wired in. I'll be happy to post the DIY next week. If someone really wants a bad tune, might as well get one for free (or close to it). We even registered www.happymealtuning.com (http://www.happymealtuning.com/) AND, more appropriately, www.happymealtooning.com (http://www.happymealtooning.com/) http://www.e90post.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif

Shiv

Originally Posted by B'CahiLL-The Boss http://www.e90post.com/forums/ver5/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1688609#post1688609)
That's a crazy trap speed...

faster than the JBS2R w / Riss Down Pipes.

116+ is fast
FWIW, we ran 109 trap speeds last weekend on our car (same set-up) with $6.50 worth of Radio Shack electronics. Basically just a bypass plug with a couple components wired in. I'll be happy to post the DIY next week. If someone really wants a bad tune, might as well get one for free (or close to it). We even registered www.happymealtuning.com (http://www.happymealtuning.com/) AND, more appropriately, www.happymealtooning.com (http://www.happymealtooning.com/) http://www.e90post.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif

Shiv


Bah, he just thinks he invented the concept of map attenuation. I threw up a reply here:

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=873860

Bah, he just thinks he invented the concept of map attenuation. I threw up a reply here:

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=873860

Isn't he still just attenuating the TMAP with fuel and timing control? There is only a few ways to skin a cat.

This reminds me of EvolutionM when Shiv and Big Al (Dynoflash) were going at it.

Hi Shiv,

What does it say about you that you're spending your time here sparring with Terry rather than serving the hundreds of unserved customers you have waiting for a product they ordered two and a half months ago? We're not out to be the fastest kids on the block, but we are committed to providing not just a quality product but quality customer service as well. To achieve that, we keep our products in stock, and we go the extra mile to provide after-purchase support.

That's why we have "No BS, No Excuses" in our ads on Dragtimes.com. When it comes down to it, we want everyone to have a good time and a pleasant ordering experience. When you buy from us, we ship the same day or the next day. Making your customers wait week after week for a product that you've charged them for and hasn't shipped is an unacceptable practice. This is doubly so considering you're spending your time fooling around with analog circuits for the sole purpose of taking a swipe at us. You and I both know that those V2 harnesses could be knocked out in less than 15 minutes each and for less than $10.

I don't need to address the problems your customers have had with wildly varying boost levels or limp codes - you know how serious that is. And you know you should be spending your time doing anything but this.

Seriously, all I see only here and on e90post is V2 "on order" or "coming soon". Thats nice that your car is really quick Shiv, but all those "customers" that bought your product seem to just be your investors in your 116mph trap 335. Makes me happy I haven't ordered one of those V2 "things", the people behind it are lousy at customer relations and cannot deliver the product in a timely fashion. Business 101
For a tuner that works on one of the more high end cars on the road, your act is very low end. All hype...:ar15firin Shiv

Seriously, all I see only here and on e90post is V2 "on order" or "coming soon". Thats nice that your car is really quick Shiv, but all those "customers" that bought your product seem to just be your investors in your 116mph trap 335. Makes me happy I haven't ordered one of those V2 "things", the people behind it are lousy at customer relations and cannot deliver the product in a timely fashion. Business 101
For a tuner that works on one of the more high end cars on the road, your act is very low end. All hype...:ar15firin Shiv

I'm not trying to flame anyone, but that is exactly why Procede was taken off my short list of products to consider... I read about way too many people on the forum explaining they've paid for the product and haven't gotten it yet, and they're 45 days out. Then I read where Shiv has all this time to go out and tune his car, run big numbers...when he should be back at the shop either making his produc or shipping it out.

I don't have the time or patience for someone who runs their business that way...they'd be better off not to make statements online, in front of their customers about being out running their car and developing the next great product when they can't deliver the ones they already have sold. Don't waste time developing faster products for yourself when you can't deliver to your customers in any kind of acceptable timeframe.

I ordered my JB2 and had it on my doorstep in less than 24 hours and I'm more than 2000 miles away...now that's service. In the end, service is just as important or more than the product you buy...at least in my opinion.

I don't have the time or patience for someone who runs their business that way...they'd be better off not to make statements online, in front of their customers about being out running their car and developing the next great product when they can't deliver the ones they already have sold. Don't waste time developing faster products for yourself when you can't deliver to your customers in any kind of acceptable timeframe.


... now get out there and install it!! ;)