Right click save as (http://www.speedforceracing.com/videos/Camm3.wmv)

Brand new motor so I wasn't going fast but here is something for you guys to snack on. :eatpop:

Took some better pics today so I took out those ugly ones that were here before.

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Sticker is coming off guys! Still on there from Bimmerfest. I was so excited we didn't have time to grab a razor blade and get that thing off. You can understand I am sure. :wave

More pics! I am charging my battery on the good camera. Will have better pics later but she is very dirty so no big deal right now.

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New pic! 3/15/08

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1st spot!

congrats!! it looks amazing!! cant wait to see it pushed a little. IT sounds incredible. btw your 3rd brakelight is out :)

looks good, I bet your happy

Hell yeah man! Been following this project from the beginning, I'm astounded by your patience.

Looks and sounds amazing!

:beermugdr:handclap:noel so there is a santa claus, and he finally delivered Cams last years present....


bet you don't get a smile off your face for a week Cam :alright

OMG!!!! :eek::eyecrazy:redspot:buttrock


BTW, your widebody looks amazing....................

About time!!! Glad she's up and running!!! :buttrock

Thanks guys! :buttrock

I am super stoked but there are a couple little items I need to square away.
1) She rubs a lot on bumps so I need to click up the COs just a bit and some 10mm spacers in the rear. Better suspension wouldn't hurt.
2) Need to align her ass up in a BIG way!

Just big ass tire and custom widebody typical stuff. :)

Other than that I am simply amazed! :redspot:buttrock:alright

what a teaser.....but still very nice!

looks good brother

Awesome Cam, I'm really happy for you now that you have it running. With the way the camera keeps zooming in on the car as it drives away it looks like a typical 1/4 mile amateur recording where you expect the last shot to be the camera lifting up to show the ET.

Austin

Dude... WTF?!?!?!? I have never heard an e36 sound like that! That is siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiick.... it almost crackles like a ferrari raspy tubi style setup. My god cam, I literally lol'ed and backed up the video to hear it again and again. That sound is visceral man! Like tearing jeans..... And to think that was just steady state cruising at what seemed to be 3-4k rpms (very) part throttle. I cannot wait to hear it opened up and breathing.

Wow. Fukking wow.... that sound is inspirational.

Holy sht, dude. Can't wait to see it in person! Glad the wait is over.

looks /sounds amazing congrats!!

Congrats!
Sounds great and I cant wait till you get on that thing and spool that sucker!:devillook I know we want a vid when your ready.:D

Ttttaaaaadddaaaaaaaa!!!!!! :)

Awesome Cam, I'm really happy for you now that you have it running. With the way the camera keeps zooming in on the car as it drives away it looks like a typical 1/4 mile amateur recording where you expect the last shot to be the camera lifting up to show the ET.

Austin
:lol Yeah that was one of Tim's workers. I am just glad he got video and TIm was able to load it up so fast.

I was down at Speed Force since 12 noon and I just got back to my office in my M3. M5 is at the shop overnight. Need to work a little and catch up since I took half the day off.
Dude... WTF?!?!?!? I have never heard an e36 sound like that! That is siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiick.... it almost crackles like a ferrari raspy tubi style setup. My god cam, I literally lol'ed and backed up the video to hear it again and again. That sound is visceral man! Like tearing jeans..... And to think that was just steady state cruising at what seemed to be 3-4k rpms (very) part throttle. I cannot wait to hear it opened up and breathing.

Wow. Fukking wow.... that sound is inspirational.
I am so glad you said that! The guys at the shop were all laughing when I pulled up. We actually made another run after that coming the other way but he ran out of tape. Anyway...the guys were saying they never heard anything like it...that it sounds more like a Ferrari or F1 type car. We watched the video and they were telling me that in person it is 100 times better than that. I don't know man but I can tell you what...I am happy with it. :)

Holy sht, dude. Can't wait to see it in person! Glad the wait is over.
Can't wait to show you! I am glad the wait is over too. I have to get the wheels aligned badly though.
looks /sounds amazing congrats!!
Thanks!

You'd better have that 500 miles on it by Wednesday, that is all I have to say. :D :buttrock

You'd better have that 500 miles on it by Wednesday, that is all I have to say. :D :buttrock
I plan to dyno her probably Tuesday. :devillook

I have to find a great alignment shop I can trust though. Can you help?

NO WAY, dude I am so happy for you! I forgot how badass that thing looks, you gotta give me a ride when its all broken in!

PM'ing you, Cam.

I plan to dyno her probably Tuesday. :devillook

I have to find a great alignment shop I can trust though. Can you help?


Mechtech?? hahahah

Clean out your inbox, dude. LOL. Totally saw that coming, too.

I shot you a PM on socale36.

Mechtech?? hahahah

:lol
That is messed up, Nick. :shifty

Mechtech?? hahahah
:rofl: That was funny! I will do a drive by their shop at WOT during business hours once the car is tuned with 30psi! :buttrock :buttrock :buttrock

The car is truely amazing, must see in person. Next week is gonna be a big meet.

Sounds good man! Soooo happy for ya man! Enjoy her and break her in slowly...

Cam that is AWESOME!!! The best old school, hand alignment shop I know of up here in LA is Bear Frame and Wheel in Glendora. I think all the computerized alignment places can only do factory suspensions (what their computers are programmed for), but I could be mistaken.

F*ck that sounds amazing. I can't wait to hear you get on that b*tch.
Oh stop posting and break her in by the end of this weekend, so come Monday you can up the boooost. And put up vids for us of course.

Congrats I have been watching your car since the beginning with its other setup and I must say it has evolved into something truly amazing. Wish I had a sick car like that.

Jesus Christ... That looks and sounds UNBELIEVABLE. I am happy it's finally done...

The car is truely amazing, must see in person. Next week is gonna be a big meet.
Hell yeah! Thanks for your help with the belt issue Nick! :redspot
Sounds good man! Soooo happy for ya man! Enjoy her and break her in slowly...
Thanks! Ah hell no! I am doing load and then vacuum back and forth with different rpm ranges. I will have her broken in by Monday!

Wastegate spring is only 5psi for safety and my 60mm wastegate keeps it at 5psi solid!
Cam that is AWESOME!!! The best old school, hand alignment shop I know of up here in LA is Bear Frame and Wheel in Glendora. I think all the computerized alignment places can only do factory suspensions (what their computers are programmed for), but I could be mistaken.
hey thanks! Yeah I heard about that place. Takes 3 weeks to get an appointment they are so good. I will have to find one local. I think it is more the balancing of my tires that is all messed up. Maybe CCW never balanced them. That would make sense.
F*ck that sounds amazing. I can't wait to hear you get on that b*tch.
Oh stop posting and break her in by the end of this weekend, so come Monday you can up the boooost. And put up vids for us of course.

Congrats I have been watching your car since the beginning with its other setup and I must say it has evolved into something truly amazing. Wish I had a sick car like that.
Thank you! I am at the office getting work done that I didn't get done earlier. I will go drive her in a sec.
Jesus Christ... That looks and sounds UNBELIEVABLE. I am happy it's finally done...
Thanks man! I am very happy she is finally done too! :)

You had me at Right Click Save As! ha ha

Cameron deserves a huge pat on the back. To think of all the shit that he has been through to get this thing running, he was able to overcome it all with a vengence. :mad This is only the beginning!!!!:buttrock

Subscribed.

A couple pictures for the hell of it on post #1 guys! :buttrock :redspot :alright

Full detail is in order with a full photo shoot..... But it looks hot as hell even know its dirty.

thats pimpin, ball on cam.... :buttrock

You had me at Right Click Save As! ha ha

Cameron deserves a huge pat on the back. To think of all the shit that he has been through to get this thing running, he was able to overcome it all with a vengence. :mad This is only the beginning!!!!:buttrock

Subscribed.
Thanks a ton Poalo! :buttrock
Full detail is in order with a full photo shoot..... But it looks hot as hell even know its dirty.
Oh I will construct the entire story on the car with all the pictures I have, video I have and video I will have plus a photo shoot. It might be a while to get it all together.

I am very happy for you Cameron - I know how long you've been waiting to get the car moving again. I also know the frustration and thus rage you inhibited during this whole process. Again, glad to see this thing rolling under its own power! Best of luck with it.

I am very happy for you Cameron - I know how long you've been waiting to get the car moving again. I also know the frustration and thus rage you inhibited during this whole process. Again, glad to see this thing rolling under its own power! Best of luck with it.
Thanks a ton for all of your help behind the scenes on AIM Jon! I feel pretty darn relieved right now. I can't wait to get her tuned up right on the dyno and take care of the suspension/alignment issues. Then it is on like Donkey Kong! :buttrock

woo hoo that is awesome. what a teaser vid. makes me want to go out and get rolling vids :buttrock

your car sounds sick man i would love to hear it WOT on the dyno!!

Congrats, Cam! I know you must be ecstatic! I am and it is not even my car! She sounds great.

OT, but what is the name of that song in the beginning of the video?

that sounds mean as heck:eyecrazy

who is going to tune the car?and post up the dyno graph how much power are you shooting for or what will make you happy?675rwhp and up or what

who is going to tune the car?and post up the dyno graph how much power are you shooting for or what will make you happy?675rwhp and up or what
Unfortunately he will not post numbers:(, just time slips. Very respectable, though.

Congrats Cameron!! Its been a long road, but I'm sure its worth it now! I can't wait to see the car again next year, and hopefully see it drive too! (Side note: Drag strip day around Bimmerfest weekend, so we can kill two birds with one trip to So-Cal??)

Keep up the good work, and good luck with her!!

60 miles on the motor already! :redspot

woo hoo that is awesome. what a teaser vid. makes me want to go out and get rolling vids :buttrock

your car sounds sick man i would love to hear it WOT on the dyno!!
You need to go make vids! Your car is all tuned man!

Thank you! I hope on Tuesday!
Congrats, Cam! I know you must be ecstatic! I am and it is not even my car! She sounds great.

OT, but what is the name of that song in the beginning of the video?
I am stoked but I need to fix the rubbing and balance/alignment issues soon!

That was playing on the stereo in the shop. No idea. :(
that sounds mean as heck:eyecrazy
Thanks Jon! I wonder what 25+psi is going to sound like?
who is going to tune the car?and post up the dyno graph how much power are you shooting for or what will make you happy?675rwhp and up or what
Master tuner nearby who has 4 dynos (3 are Dyno Dynamics) will be tuning her. No numbers for you guys other than trap eventually.

Nice !!!

"SHES ALIVE! ALIVE!" - Cam you definitely are a mad scientist

and you created a BEAST!!!!!

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/7016/sjff03img1400li7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

60 miles on the motor already! :redspot


You need to go make vids! Your car is all tuned man!

Thank you! I hope on Tuesday!

I am stoked but I need to fix the rubbing and balance/alignment issues soon!

That was playing on the stereo in the shop. No idea. :(

Thanks Jon! I wonder what 25+psi is going to sound like?

Master tuner nearby who has 4 dynos (3 are Dyno Dynamics) will be tuning her. No numbers for you guys other than trap eventually.

I was just wondering, what is the reason why you would not want to release numbers?
The only thing I can think of is racing for money.

this is f`in awesome cam!!! congrats, and car looks/sounds beyond amazing....cant wait to see more vids and pics now that u finally have her


enjoy!

All I can say is WOW. Glad it's finally done man. Can't wait for more vids.

btw, how big are your tires?!?

Dude... WTF?!?!?!? I have never heard an e36 sound like that! That is siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiick.... it almost crackles like a ferrari raspy tubi style setup. My god cam, I literally lol'ed and backed up the video to hear it again and again. That sound is visceral man! Like tearing jeans..... And to think that was just steady state cruising at what seemed to be 3-4k rpms (very) part throttle. I cannot wait to hear it opened up and breathing.

Wow. Fukking wow.... that sound is inspirational.

Awesome news! I know you've been waiting a long time Cameron.

Regarding the giddy hysteria about how the car sounds, and not to rain on your parade Cameron, but it sounds like any turbo BMW that I've heard.

A Ferrari with Tubi exhausts sounds totally different. F1 cars sound totally different .. and so they should since they are NA and revving about 400% higher.

Again, fantastic news the car is getting there! Can't wait to see it get used in anger!

AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

it looks and sounds absolutely amazing, im sure it drives even better!! congradulations!

ps. will you pm the dyno sheet and numbers?? :naughty i promise to not leak them ;)

looks amazing man, glad that its finally running now. I cant wait to see some time slips. What is your plan for rear tires at the track?

60 miles on the motor already! :redspot

Master tuner nearby who has 4 dynos (3 are Dyno Dynamics) will be tuning her. No numbers for you guys other than trap eventually.
Sooo nice Im excited too I can not wait for her to get tuned.Remeber alot of long deacceleration will help seat rings.

I was just wondering, what is the reason why you would not want to release numbers?
The only thing I can think of is racing for money.

This is actually smart ,Take me for example Just because I dyno'ed 996whp
does not mean I use these settings at the track and I might never.I have traped 143mph in a 3400 pound car then you get people saying Thats not 996hp

So Cameron is doing the right thing and avoiding all the drama.

congrats cam! we all know you've been waiting forever and i'm sure we will all be happy to see some more videos when you finally get a chance :D

looks and sounds amazing

Then it is on like Donkey Kong! :buttrock

I was just thinking this watching that video lol :lol:mad:mad:mad:mad

Anyway, in all seriousness though, I'm surprised the server didn't crash when your post when up. :eek:

Congrats Cam, definetly deserve it.

Congrats on getting it running Cam, you deserve the "Man with the most patience award"
:)

that is sick!! take it mir monday!!

Congrats Cam!

I noticed on "another forum" that you had some indication in your sig last night that you were driving it, so I was kind of waiting for some action!

Gotta go watch the vid before wifey gives me Honey-Do's!!

:D

:buttrock

The car sounds great, it reminds me of Marco's car with the AA race exhaust.

Nice job, your patience with this project amazes me.

Niiiice Cam:redspot:redspot:alright:alright:alright:evil2: devillook:buttrock:buttrock:buttrock:redspot

why would one person have 4 dynos when he can only use one at a time?whats his name or shop name that just sounds funny for one person to have 4 dynos.i am not saying he doesnt that just is a little weird but cool i guess.

I was just wondering, what is the reason why you would not want to release numbers?
The only thing I can think of is racing for money.
Because when almost anybody posts a dyno sheet, the thread turns to crap. People argue that it's not true, doesn't look right, they cheated and used race gas, the dyno was wrong, etc. :rolleyes

Sounds great. I am pumped to finally see some vids, now dyno that beast and get more vids!:)

Congrats sir!!! Can't wait to see some more proper pictures.
-Chris

Right click save as (http://www.speedforceracing.com/videos/Camm3.wmv)

Brand new motor so I wasn't going fast but here is something for you guys to snack on. :eatpop:

It is pitch black outside so pics suck butt but I wanted to take a couple anyway. First shots with hood shut.

Sticker is coming off guys! Still on there from Bimmerfest. I was so excited we didn't have time to grab a razor blade and get that thing off. You can understand I am sure. :wave

Looks and Sounds Awesome. Congrats Cameron.

Chris.

Right click save as (http://www.speedforceracing.com/videos/Camm3.wmv)

Brand new motor so I wasn't going fast but here is something for you guys to snack on. :eatpop:

It is pitch black outside so pics suck butt but I wanted to take a couple anyway. First shots with hood shut.

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/9350/m31so2.jpg

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/261/m32ge4.jpg

Sticker is coming off guys! Still on there from Bimmerfest. I was so excited we didn't have time to grab a razor blade and get that thing off. You can understand I am sure. :wave

big ups and congrats Cam:buttrock:alright:redspot

Cam congrats! Now seeing no one has said it.... Wash and wax that sexy car and get thee to a drag strip!!!

so it will be at MIR this monday?! Congrats and cait wait to see some video!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/rundatrack/clapping.gif

^^^

:rofl:

^^^

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Laughter is good for the soul.....

This is actually smart ,Take me for example Just because I dyno'ed 996whp
does not mean I use these settings at the track and I might never.I have traped 143mph in a 3400 pound car then you get people saying Thats not 996hp So Cameron is doing the right thing and avoiding all the drama.
Very well said! I agree with Cam's decision not to release the dyno numbers. His project looks great and is well desearved for a person who has waited so long! Looks and sounds great Cam!

Because when almost anybody posts a dyno sheet, the thread turns to crap. People argue that it's not true, doesn't look right, they cheated and used race gas, the dyno was wrong, etc. :rolleyes

really, the only conflicts like this I can think of all stem around the ICS numbers. and amongst those... its only among a few extraordinary circumstances. 95% of the dyno numbers posted are accepted at face value, it is only when a certain combo winds up making much more than anyone else has been able to wring out that people start questioning.

I for one would love to see cams numbers on a dynodynamics dyno set to shootout mode. I dont think anyone will put up a stink about the numbers... unless the numbers are real high and the corresponding trap speed is (by comparison) low. I am dying to know how the knife edging, ceramic piston and combustion chamber coating, equal length mani, etc etc etc etc etc will manifest itself in the power curve. This combo has never been done before and we all can serve to learn from the build. :buttrock

Because when almost anybody posts a dyno sheet, the thread turns to crap. People argue that it's not true, doesn't look right, they cheated and used race gas, the dyno was wrong, etc. :rolleyes

EXACTLY......!!

Cam just go out there and spank some ass and then they will know that the car is POWERFUL!!!!! thats how I do it go out there and pick fights with worthy opponents who will spread the word:buttrock

Awsome!! gongrats

Congrats on getting your car running. I can't wait for a full write up and pictoral on your car. It's(and you) are definitely one of the most popular stories on this forum. Thanks for setting the bar:buttrock

Go Team Cali !!!

really, the only conflicts like this I can think of all stem around the ICS numbers. and amongst those... its only among a few extraordinary circumstances. 95% of the dyno numbers posted are accepted at face value, it is only when a certain combo winds up making much more than anyone else has been able to wring out that people start questioning.

I for one would love to see cams numbers on a dynodynamics dyno set to shootout mode. I dont think anyone will put up a stink about the numbers... unless the numbers are real high and the corresponding trap speed is (by comparison) low. I am dying to know how the knife edging, ceramic piston and combustion chamber coating, equal length mani, etc etc etc etc etc will manifest itself in the power curve. This combo has never been done before and we all can serve to learn from the build. :buttrock
The dumbest thing he could do is tell everyone the numbers...it will only start a huge debate that will most likely end up in a huge argument.

I have been there and even spent money to prove people wrong, but at the end of the day...people still hate and always have some sort of excuse. :eyecrazy

IMO, he's doing the right thing. Cam...keep it to yourself.

I thought I posted in here last night, than when I went to watch the video again didnt see my post :confused. The car sounds amazing! congrats :buttrock .. MORE VIDS!! even just driving down the road in the day breakin her in.

To add to the dyno argument, could you at least post the dyno with the AFRS and The Curve and just Photoshop out the numbers?
I would love to see the curve of that setup also, especially with that turbo.

That video has us all salivating.....I cannot wait to see and hear more.

Congrats Cam.

Congrats Cam!!! :buttrock

Look at the arguing already and it is only about the thought of me showing dyno numbers! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


I can't quote everyone so I want to say thanks for all the nice comments! You guys are like family to me. I have had the pleasure of meeting some of you in person, I hope to meet more some day! :buttrock
Awesome news! I know you've been waiting a long time Cameron.

Regarding the giddy hysteria about how the car sounds, and not to rain on your parade Cameron, but it sounds like any turbo BMW that I've heard.

A Ferrari with Tubi exhausts sounds totally different. F1 cars sound totally different .. and so they should since they are NA and revving about 400% higher.

Again, fantastic news the car is getting there! Can't wait to see it get used in anger!
Thanks Kenny! :wave

Is this you in the pic below holding my head?
http://www.dkimages.com/discover/previews/848/25124804.JPG
Sooo nice Im excited too I can not wait for her to get tuned.Remeber alot of long deacceleration will help seat rings.



This is actually smart ,Take me for example Just because I dyno'ed 996whp
does not mean I use these settings at the track and I might never.I have traped 143mph in a 3400 pound car then you get people saying Thats not 996hp

So Cameron is doing the right thing and avoiding all the drama.
Thanks a ton Ulysses! Yup, did a ton of decelleration last night and will continue to do so! :buttrock
Congrats on getting it running Cam, you deserve the "Man with the most patience award"
:)
Thank you for saying that! Tim at Speed Force has told me many times how much he appreciates my attitude and that he can't believe how cool I have been throughout all of this. He has a lot of other customers who cry over little mods because they don't want to pay up and they are taking too much time when it takes a week. It hasn't been easy but I don't like to stress too much so I try to avoid stress and just let things go until they work out sometimes. Otherwise I wouldn't live to 50.
Niiiice Cam :redspot :redspot :alright :alright :alright :evil2:devillook :buttrock :buttrock :buttrock :redspot
You da man! Now I have to learn to launch like you!
why would one person have 4 dynos when he can only use one at a time?whats his name or shop name that just sounds funny for one person to have 4 dynos. I am not saying he doesnt that just is a little weird but cool i guess.
All the guy does is tune. Anything from motor homes to sand buggies to street cars to whatever. Master tuner.

The Dyno Shop (http://www.thedynoshop.com/)
Looks and Sounds Awesome. Congrats Cameron.

Chris.
Thank you Chris! With your high perception of proper turbo system engineering, it will be interesting to get your take on her in person. I will give you a ride at Bimmerfest too! :)
:stickoutt


Laughter is good for the soul.....
That was a great gif buddy! Thanks! :lol
Very well said! I agree with Cam's decision not to release the dyno numbers. His project looks great and is well desearved for a person who has waited so long! Looks and sounds great Cam!
Thank you very much!
EXACTLY......!!

Cam just go out there and spank some ass and then they will know that the car is POWERFUL!!!!! thats how I do it go out there and pick fights with worthy opponents who will spread the word:buttrock
Thanks Pat! I will do exactly that! :buttrock
The dumbest thing he could do is tell everyone the numbers...it will only start a huge debate that will most likely end up in a huge argument.

I have been there and even spent money to prove people wrong, but at the end of the day...people still hate and always have some sort of excuse. :eyecrazy

IMO, he's doing the right thing. Cam...keep it to yourself.
You definitely know what it is like to be in that hot seat Dave. Thanks for that. There is no reason that I need to post dyno numbers.
I thought I posted in here last night, than when I went to watch the video again didnt see my post :confused. The car sounds amazing! congrats :buttrock .. MORE VIDS!! even just driving down the road in the day breakin her in.
Thanks! I have more video of the tuning from an in-car camera mount last night. :devillook
To add to the dyno argument, could you at least post the dyno with the AFRS and The Curve and just Photoshop out the numbers?
I would love to see the curve of that setup also, especially with that turbo.
I said that I would do that. No sweat bro. :thumbup:

:eyecrazy I cant wait to see this thing on wendsday:eyecrazy
Congrats
i cant wait to get mine going, we will have to get all the local FI bmw's out for a late night duel:devillook

I posted some extra pics on post #1.

Damn! Can't get over that sound. Congrats on getting it up and running!

I said it in the other thread, but Ill say it again:

If anyone deserves this payoff its you. More than anyone you encourage everyone and have been for the past ~3 years in their builds, all the while waiting patiently on your build to be finished.

CONGRATS!!!!

I agree that dyno numbers are pointless. By now the mainstream consumer (read: you) are aware that dyno numbers vary from dyno type to dyno type .. and from dyno machine to dyno machine. Also that it is laughably easy to fudge the numbers for a dishonest operator.

For those who take their car to a drag strip, the raceweight and trap speed is all you need to know for a very accurate engine power number.

For those who bust a number in the dyno cell with a huge peak horsepower number, but then never again run that setup (less boost or what ever) yet still tout that once-in-a-lifetime dyno number I ask you to reconsider. It's that sort of thinking that the BMW FI community should have grow out of by now.

Congratulations Cam!!! It's great to see your plans materialize, Can't wait for more:buttrock

I don't see what the big deal is about numbers on a dyno. It's a dyno. It's a tool for tuning and comparative output. People get all worked up about dyno numbers. I don't understand why. Car's are built up for a reason. Sometimes it's to go fast in a straight line. Sometimes it's to bust big numbers on a dyno. Some are even built to turn left and right:D. Whatever the "builder" wants is cool with me.

I know another guy that didn't dyno after a build. Funny all the hell he caught.:devillook

Cam I hope your car does what YOU want it to do....and I'm glad you got it running.:buttrock

Don

Congrats Camm. :) Is that a non-vano's motor?

Congrats, that sounded awesome, you waited long enough for this, you must be thrilled like a child.
You deserved it.



:rofl: That was funny! I will do a drive by their shop at WOT during business hours once the car is tuned with 30psi! :buttrock :buttrock :buttrock
That would be a bad place to blow a headgasket :eek:

For those who bust a number in the dyno cell with a huge peak horsepower number, but then never again run that setup (less boost or what ever) yet still tout that once-in-a-lifetime dyno number I ask you to reconsider. It's that sort of thinking that the BMW FI community should have grown out of by now.:wave I will always push it harder on the dyno then the track.I like knowing if I dyno at 30 psi then 28 should be fine.To me It's like tuning to knock then backing off a few degrees though you pulled 4 degrees out you could have got by with minus one or two.You have that saftey margin.I be will looking for a dyno dynamics this winter Im curious what my numbers will be. If it is still in one peice after Monday:buttrock:buttrock


Back on topic
Cam when will wee see the first race vid:alright

Cam when will wee see the first race vid:alright

:devillook

Thanks everyone! :redspot
I said it in the other thread, but Ill say it again:

If anyone deserves this payoff its you. More than anyone you encourage everyone and have been for the past ~3 years in their builds, all the while waiting patiently on your build to be finished.

CONGRATS!!!!
Thanks Richard. Much appreciated! I even started updating my Tried & Tested thread today. It's not all about me. :)
Congrats Camm. :) Is that a non-vano's motor?
Ummmmm...yurp! :devillook
Congrats, that sounded awesome, you waited long enough for this, you must be thrilled like a child.
You deserved it.

That would be a bad place to blow a headgasket :eek:
Thanks and...oh damn that would suck! :eek: :lol

Cam when will wee see the first race vid:alright
My spring is solid at 5psi right now so I could see if I can race an e46 m3 and beat it with only 5psi and like no timing breaking her in while shifting at 5k. :)

God damn...

Nice!

nice job love the sound of the car also :):alright

clarence brown in kearny mesa. had great experience working with modified cars there. instead of getting the weird looks when i ask for negative camber they ask how much do you want...

My spring is solid at 5psi right now so I could see if I can race an e46 m3 and beat it with only 5psi and like no timing breaking her in while shifting at 5k. :)
lets do this, i'd like to get smoked by your car:)

+1 for clarence brown in kearny mesa, they did a nice job on my car:buttrock

clarence brown in kearny mesa. had great experience working with modified cars there. instead of getting the weird looks when i ask for negative camber they ask how much do you want...
Sick! You are the second guy to say that. Hope they have an opening before Wednesday! :buttrock
lets do this, i'd like to get smoked by your car:)

+1 for clarence brown in kearny mesa, they did a nice job on my car:buttrock
Let's do eeeeeeeet! :buttrock

OK Clarence Brown it is! :buttrock

Can't wait to get you turboed my brother! :devillook

Oh man, I can see the drive to bimmerfest 08 already...

Me - AA S/C M3
CJ - TT Stg2 M3
Cameron - ****ing sick m3 (everyone already knows)
Kurt - 600whp M3
Blaise - 600whp M Roady
Steve - 400whp M3
more to come...

Like getting a new toy again......you need to do a road trip (bring the fam so they don't feel neglected) to rack up the miles as quick as possible.....you can fit a car seat in there you know!

Congrats....I'll be anxiously awaiting more vids!

Oh man, I can see the drive to bimmerfest 08 already...

Me - AA S/C M3
CJ - TT Stg2 M3
Cameron - ****ing sick m3 (everyone already knows)
Kurt - 600whp M3
Blaise - 600whp M Roady
Steve - 400whp M3
more to come...
OH MY GOD! :eyecrazy There aren't enough lanes for us! Imagine coming up to a few fart-canned Hondas talking to eachother on their cells. "Holy chit man look in your rear-view! Don't think the B16 can handle this mang!" :eyecrazy

OH MY GOD! :eyecrazy There aren't enough lanes for us! Imagine coming up to a few fart-canned Hondas talking to eachother on their cells. "Holy chit man look in your rear-view! Don't think the B16 can handle this mang!" :eyecrazy

:rofl2

congrats!!

i have watched your buildup from cardomain to bf.c and that thing is a monster.

i cant wait to see.. or should i say.. hear the bimmerfest drive vids..

best of luck!!

Hey the car is awesome . I was wondering what kind of intake manifold is that. Its beautiful.

Hey the car is awesome . I was wondering what kind of intake manifold is that. Its beautiful.
Thanks a bunch! :)

It is totally custom but Speed Force can make another one if you are interested. $1800 including Accufab throttle body and custom fuel rail. $1900 polished.

Sounds and looks great Cam, huge congrats and enjoy!

OH MY GOD! :eyecrazy There aren't enough lanes for us! Imagine coming up to a few fart-canned Hondas talking to eachother on their cells. "Holy chit man look in your rear-view! Don't think the B16 can handle this mang!" :eyecrazy

:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol, I think the lack of parallel lanes and groups of Hondas will be the least of our problems once we pass a CHP.

cam im coming down on saturday with my camera, get ready to do a video:)

:wave I will always push it harder on the dyno then the track.I like knowing if I dyno at 30 psi then 28 should be fine.To me It's like tuning to knock then backing off a few degrees though you pulled 4 degrees out you could have got by with minus one or two.You have that saftey margin.I be will looking for a dyno dynamics this winter Im curious what my numbers will be.
..

Ulysses, I understand totally about finding the best compromise between all out power and reliability.

I guess what is misleading to some is when they look at drag strip results and then compare that to the advertised power number. For example in your car, ~141 MPH and 1,000 rwhp. That leads to most forum members assuming that you need 1,000 rwhp to run 141 MPH in an E36.

I hope you undertand what I'm getting at, no offence intended brother!

damn, congrats man. this is going to be sick to see in person if i ever make it to a SD meet.

:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol, I think the lack of parallel lanes and groups of Hondas will be the least of our problems once we pass a CHP.
True that! "Who in the group has a Mechtech Turbo CARB EO sticker?" :)
cam im coming down on saturday with my camera, get ready to do a video:)
SNAP! Can't wait to see you CJ! Your photography is very good so I need to have a full detail so she is ready for you! I better make sure she dynos Tuesday and that I get the alignment/balancing and all that dialed in before Saturday! :devillook
damn, congrats man. this is going to be sick to see in person if i ever make it to a SD meet.
If you don't I might check out some Orange County meets and go there. Where you located? It says you are confused.

Cam, or anybody, can you host this on youtube for easyier viewing? (I don't have Windows or its media player)

Patience may be a virtue, but it sure aint fun. Glad to see it up and running

congrats cam...now get her broken in so we can see what shes made of!!!


and that manifold is HOT! 1900 is not bad imo

WOW. Best. Sounding. E36. EVER!

That is pure sex. Amazing. I want one. :D

Daytime pics look great. I was down in San Diego picking up some E30 parts this morning and stopped by SFR. I chuckled a bit to myself when I saw your M5 was still sitting there, knowing you had probably been driving the M3 non-stop since after work yesterday. I can't wait to see it.

I got a chance to talk to Tim and wow, he is exactly like you described, really knowledgeable and business focused, but totally chill and down to earth. Patience seems to have paid off in this case. :)

Ulysses, I understand totally about finding the best compromise between all out power and reliability.

I guess what is misleading to some is when they look at drag strip results and then compare that to the advertised power number. For example in your car, ~141 MPH and 1,000 rwhp. That leads to most forum members assuming that you need 1,000 rwhp to run 141 MPH in an E36.

I hope you undertand what I'm getting at, no offence intended brother!
:thumbup::drink1

cam, too bad you'll be coming from socal to bimmerfest 08, id be happy to do some runs with you on the highway and get my ass kicked!

what kinda 4" air filter is that Cam ?

CAMMMM! I am sooo happy for you dude!!!!

The long wait is now over and now its time to start painting the streets :)

WOW. Best. Sounding. E36. EVER!

That is pure sex. Amazing. I want one. :D
Not sure about best sounding but thanks man! I might make replica body kits in carbon fiber if you really want one.
Daytime pics look great. I was down in San Diego picking up some E30 parts this morning and stopped by SFR. I chuckled a bit to myself when I saw your M5 was still sitting there, knowing you had probably been driving the M3 non-stop since after work yesterday. I can't wait to see it.

I got a chance to talk to Tim and wow, he is exactly like you described, really knowledgeable and business focused, but totally chill and down to earth. Patience seems to have paid off in this case. :)
Oh wow! You went to SFR one day late man! :lol At least you got to see the M5 (woopideedoo! :rolleyes). Glad you were able to speak to Tim! Yeah Tim rocks. Super friendly but also very knowledgeable. Of course, mad mad skillz with a TIG welder. :naughty Would be sick if you get something done there.

Too bad I didn't get to meet you. I picked up the M5 around 3:30pm. We will for sure though.
congrats cam...now get her broken in so we can see what shes made of!!!


and that manifold is HOT! 1900 is not bad imo
Thanks! If anyone wants one of these intake manis PM me.

cam, too bad you'll be coming from socal to bimmerfest 08, id be happy to do some runs with you on the highway and get my ass kicked!
:lol That wouldn't even be fair. :)

what kinda 4" air filter is that Cam ?
The HKS one I don't really like and it is over $100. One guy at SFR found this one at Pep Boys or something if you can believe that. Like $10.
CAMMMM! I am sooo happy for you dude!!!!

The long wait is now over and now its time to start painting the streets :)
Thanks buddy! :lol I will do my best at the painting. Let's see if I can get any vids like the Swedes where I do 100mph burnouts! :buttrock

Holy chit!!!! I love the setup, the engine bay, the noise, widebody everything. That wide body looks like you could take a nap on the rear quarter panel :drool. Few things, I woulda done different: bigger tires in the back, bigger radiator and the fan, more than 7 psi :rofl . Awesome car Cameron, when are you comming down south, i wanna go for a ride in her!

hope to see you racing it soon very soon

Holy chit!!!! I love the setup, the engine bay, the noise, widebody everything. That wide body looks like you could take a nap on the rear quarter panel :drool. Few things, I woulda done different: bigger tires in the back, bigger radiator and the fan, more than 7 psi :rofl . Awesome car Cameron, when are you comming down south, i wanna go for a ride in her!
Thanks a ton for the compliments. She is unique and not for everyone so I appreciate when people do like her because I know many won't.

Bigger rear tires? Bigger radiator? WTF? :lol
hope to see you racing it soon very soon
You will! Going to go for about a 3 hour drive right now! :)

Did you understand my post regarding the dyno shop? Unusual yes...but tuning is all they do.

Congrats man! i cant wait to see more videos of it, or better yet see it in person someday!

You will! Going to go for about a 3 hour drive right now! :)


what roads will you be taking and when:devillook

HOLY COW, that manifold is awesome!!! I don't know anything about your setup, but did you put a Euro M3 motor in there, or is that a US spec? If US spec, how can some of us get our hands on a manifold like that? Screw the M50 with that thing!

Great sounding custom exhaust, best sounding clip I have heard.

Been following somewhat in the shadows, congratulations! Nicely done! Best of luck.

HOLY COW, that manifold is awesome!!! I don't know anything about your setup, but did you put a Euro M3 motor in there, or is that a US spec? If US spec, how can some of us get our hands on a manifold like that? Screw the M50 with that thing!

Great sounding custom exhaust, best sounding clip I have heard.

it's a non-vanos M50, us spec....sort of :rofl


and the topic of the intake mani has been covered in this thread already....try around pg 4

HOLY COW, that manifold is awesome!!! I don't know anything about your setup, but did you put a Euro M3 motor in there, or is that a US spec? If US spec, how can some of us get our hands on a manifold like that? Screw the M50 with that thing!

Great sounding custom exhaust, best sounding clip I have heard.

Dude, he just said to PM him if you want a manifold. ;)

Dude, he just said to PM him if you want a manifold. ;)


Sorry! I tried to read every post, but must have missed the info on page 4. I started skimming the last couple pages! $1900 is quite a bit, but I can see in the pics why it's so much.

HOLY CHIT! I LOVE THIS CAR! :eyecrazy :eyecrazy :eyecrazy :redspot :redspot :redspot

Just got back from my drive. Got a call from the wife so cut it a little short. Took some better pics (I am not a photographer man but I am trying).

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/5732/m31111071fv4.jpg
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/9293/m31111072bx6.jpg
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/854/m31111073ks5.jpg

cant wait to see that in person dude!!! looks so siiiick!!

That is hot, I think I am in love

right click, save as background :D

HOLY CHIT! I LOVE THIS CAR! :eyecrazy :eyecrazy :eyecrazy :redspot :redspot :redspot

Just got back from my drive. Got a call from the wife so cut it a little short. Took some better pics (I am not a photographer man but I am trying).


Pics look good mang. Assuming I can go to this meet on wends. I am going to bring my new camera (canon 40d) and a tripod and some lenses. If you let me we could try some night shots with long exposures and get the baby to sparkle, BLANG BLANG....haha

:drool:

:urtheman

Any idea on power level? (Sorry, did not search the thread :) )

How's the M5 doing for you? Any plans for the beast? :evil2 I'm working with someone on a custom blower kit, hopefully by next summer :devillook

do you still have A/c?

Thanks guys! :wave
Pics look good mang. Assuming I can go to this meet on wends. I am going to bring my new camera (canon 40d) and a tripod and some lenses. If you let me we could try some night shots with long exposures and get the baby to sparkle, BLANG BLANG....haha
That would be...FRICKING AWESOME! :buttrock
Any idea on power level? (Sorry, did not search the thread :) )

How's the M5 doing for you? Any plans for the beast? :evil2 I'm working with someone on a custom blower kit, hopefully by next summer :devillook
Car is getting tuned on the dyno Tuesday. No plans for the M5...I like her stock. If I want to mod anything the money will go into the M3.
do you still have A/c?
The compressor and everything is in there except the lines and the belt. They did not have a chance to do the custom lines yet. Luckily it isn't scorching weather anymore and I drove around with a long sleeve shirt today with the window cracked and all good. I will have A/C though! :thumbup:

She looks very sweet and I bet once tuned she it going to be crazy fun. Enjoy her, you deserve it.

This is by far one of the best builds on the forum..Congrats Cam! The only other build I'm waiting to see is the guy with the Iding Power car.. Enjoy her!!!

Hi, Cameron
Congrats, and enjoy your m3.
Regard
Antonio

Thanks guys! :wave

That would be...FRICKING AWESOME! :buttrock

Car is getting tuned on the dyno Tuesday. No plans for the M5...I like her stock. If I want to mod anything the money will go into the M3.

The compressor and everything is in there except the lines and the belt. They did not have a chance to do the custom lines yet. Luckily it isn't scorching weather anymore and I drove around with a long sleeve shirt today with the window cracked and all good. I will have A/C though! :thumbup:

I'd love to see some more vids. Can you get some at the dyno, and more on the street? This may have already been asked, but what turbo are you running? I look forward to the ride at Bimmerfest. :)

Chris.

pt76gts iirc

Congrats Cam! You have the patience of a saint. Have fun and BE SAFE.



Oh and if you ever sell that car, and don't tell me first so I have a chance at outbidding the buyer, I will hunt you down and ........

I know I'm beating a dead horse, but I gotta say it, this car is absolutely beautiful from the body to the drivetrain, nothing is missed including paying it's proper homage to the e30 m3. Good luck with a great car.

I'd love to see some more vids. Can you get some at the dyno, and more on the street? This may have already been asked, but what turbo are you running? I look forward to the ride at Bimmerfest. :)

Chris.
Thanks Chris!
Well, I have some more footage that I can work on tonight for you guys. I have been driving around by myself so it's tough plus with my baby girl and work I can't devote all my time to this. Once she is tuned it will be a different story. :devillook

I will video the dyno Tuesday for sure! :thumbup:

Turbo is a 0.81 hot side pt76gts non BB non ported shroud.
Congrats Cam! You have the patience of a saint. Have fun and BE SAFE.



Oh and if you ever sell that car, and don't tell me first so I have a chance at outbidding the buyer, I will hunt you down and ........
Hypothetically? Absolutely!

Seriously? I will be burried in this car!

She looks GREAT!!!! enjoy her, she sure is a beauty! :)

-George

I know I'm beating a dead horse, but I gotta say it, this car is absolutely beautiful from the body to the drivetrain, nothing is missed including paying it's proper homage to the e30 m3. Good luck with a great car.
That horse is always alive as far as I am concerned! I appreciate every compliment. Thank you so much for the massive compliments! :alright

As I said before, I absolutely understand this car is not for a majority of people (specifically the OEM/must have mouldings guys ;) ), so I am stoked when anyone appreciates her.

She looks GREAT!!!! enjoy her, she sure is a beauty! :)

-George
OH YOUR MAJESTY KING MO POWA! :worship: Thank you for even posting! I appreciate it very much! :buttrock

OH YOUR MAJESTY KING MO POWA! :worship: Thank you for even posting! I appreciate it very much! :buttrock

LOL... too funny best of luck with her, she owes it to you. :)

-George

That horse is always alive as far as I am concerned! I appreciate every compliment. Thank you so much for the massive compliments! :alright

As I said before, I absolutely understand this car is not for a majority of people (specifically the OEM/must have mouldings guys ;) ), so I am stoked when anyone appreciates her.

While I must admit, I prefer mouldings, with a car like yours it's very very easy to forgive such a small shortcoming :stickoutt The engine bay is a work of art, and I love the e30 m3 look.

Congrats Cam, it looks like your patience finally payed off :buttrock

your car is :drool:

Bigger rear tires? Bigger radiator? WTF? :lol




:rofl, i was being sarcastic since the tires are what ..315s and the radiator looks like a baby bath tub haha

Anyone know how I can see this on a Mac? Or can someone host it on youtube?

looks amazing congrats! widebody came out very clean... kept true to bmw with the e30 m3 style fenders. Amazing car man.

Anyone know how I can see this on a Mac? Or can someone host it on youtube?

http://www.videolan.org/vlc/

Plays all codecs/formats + no bull$hit

I am very happy for you, hope you enjoy her and i get to check her out!

I am very happy for you, hope you enjoy her and i get to check her out!
Thanks Vik!

I will definitely come up to the OC/LA area once she is tuned and the suspension is all dialed in. I want to meet with you, Jon Sibal & Ryan Castro. Would be a nice little photo shoot, don't ya think? :)

Thanks Vik!

I will definitely come up to the OC/LA area once she is tuned and the suspension is all dialed in. I want to meet with you, Jon Sibal & Ryan Castro. Would be a nice little photo shoot, don't ya think? :)

That sounds awesome, cant wait for that. You guys kill me with the widebodies though!

Thanks Vik!

I will definitely come up to the OC/LA area once she is tuned and the suspension is all dialed in. I want to meet with you, Jon Sibal & Ryan Castro. Would be a nice little photo shoot, don't ya think? :)

Wow, that WOULD be one helluva photoshoot... please do that please...!!!

Thanks Vik!

I will definitely come up to the OC/LA area once she is tuned and the suspension is all dialed in. I want to meet with you, Jon Sibal & Ryan Castro. Would be a nice little photo shoot, don't ya think? :)

I'd love to see that in person! Congrats Cam, after so much time, effort, and frustration its great to see that the beast finally lives! I can't wait to see more vids and hopefully get a ride in it :)

HOLY CHIT! I LOVE THIS CAR! :eyecrazy :eyecrazy :eyecrazy :redspot :redspot :redspot

Just got back from my drive. Got a call from the wife so cut it a little short. Took some better pics (I am not a photographer man but I am trying).

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/5732/m31111071fv4.jpg
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/9293/m31111072bx6.jpg
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/854/m31111073ks5.jpg

Seriously man I personally don't really like (at all :help ) any of the popular widebody turbo E36 cars on the board as I think they are overdone or there is just too much stuff going on but yours, yours on the other hand, is just plain gorgeous. There is no better word. The most elegant and tasteful widebody out there. Congratulations !!! :drool:

I'm happy for ya man!

cheers!

I'd love to see that in person! Congrats Cam, after so much time, effort, and frustration its great to see that the beast finally lives! I can't wait to see more vids and hopefully get a ride in it :)
PM me your phone number and I will call you when we decide to set it up. I hope Ryan would like to be involved...he has been MIA for a long time.

Thanks a ton for the nice words. I will most definitely give you a ride in her some day soon. Vids will be coming very fast now that I have the software and know where to host them in decent resolution. Only thing is the current software makes a sound like your speakers are broken so I will keep working on that trying to find one that works flawlesly. I can't wait to get her back after the tune and do my first burnout in her! I need to look online for a suction cup camera mount so I can stick a camera on the side of the car looking down at the tire for my burnout. :buttrock
Seriously man I personally don't really like (at all :help ) any of the popular widebody turbo E36 cars on the board as I think they are overdone or there is just too much stuff going on but yours, yours on the other hand, is just plain gorgeous. There is no better word. The most elegant and tasteful widebody out there. Congratulations !!! :drool:
That is a GINORMOUS compliment from you bro! I so appreciate it! It took so much thought and work to pull off. I had started with a Zeemax kit and hated it, absolutely hated it. I had to change it and went through many variations in my head. Then when I figured it out (after a bit of research on the e30 m3), I contacted Jon Sibal for his massive artist talent. He came through and put what was in my head down on paper. I sent a few angle shots of the car in current widebody trim and we spoke on the phone many times to make it happen. He then sent me his artist renditions which I gave to the body shop guys. It made everything a piece of cake for them! Thank you Jon Sibal!

In the big thread I will show pictures of what she looked like before I ripped off nearly 50% of the widebody and started over.

Thanks a ton for the nice words. I will most definitely give you a ride in her some day soon. Vids will be coming very fast now that I have the software and know where to host them in decent resolution. Only thing is the current software makes a sound like your speakers are broken so I will keep working on that trying to find one that works flawlesly. I can't wait to get her back after the tune and do my first burnout in her! I need to look online for a suction cup camera mount so I can stick a camera on the side of the car looking down at the tire for my burnout. :buttrock


Thats what I like to hear DRIVE IT LIKE YOU STOLE IT!!! Have some fun in her and make sure you post vids!!

Couple of quick question
First, for the strip, what kind of tire setup are you going to run?
how do you think your wide rears will affect your cars performance?
Although I am pretty sure this has been beating to death (and I have searched and cannot find anything), what made you choose that motor? IIRC, your car is a 97 M3 which would mean it would come with a S52. I am just wondering what made you swap motors and go with the M50NV.

Want more!!!!! Awesome stuff man. Looks so clean.
-Chris

Thats what I like to hear DRIVE IT LIKE YOU STOLE IT!!! Have some fun in her and make sure you post vids!!
Thank you! Damn straight! I hope to get some video smoking the tires at 60-80mph like the Swedes do! :buttrock
Couple of quick question
First, for the strip, what kind of tire setup are you going to run?
how do you think your wide rears will affect your cars performance?
Although I am pretty sure this has been beating to death (and I have searched and cannot find anything), what made you choose that motor? IIRC, your car is a 97 M3 which would mean it would come with a S52. I am just wondering what made you swap motors and go with the M50NV.
1) For the strip I will get some 15" rims and run slicks that are approved by MrBlonde to fit under the stock bodywork so I can be on the street car list. I want to run skinnies up front as well...basically the same setup as Mike R.
2) I believe that there might be a change in the steering around corners but I have the backspacing as deep as they can go (in fact too deep, need to add little spacers to the rears) so it's not like most of the tire is outside of the stock footprint area. Use Vic Sias's car for example. The guy owns the autocross in his widebody M3. link (http://www.siastuning.com/)
3) I chose the motor because of the hype at the time. Lots of guys (especially ones not posting publically but I found out) were blowing head gaskets left and right with built s50 and s52 motors at 550+whp because the cylinder walls are so thin in between cylinders and also a waterjacket or two. So since the m50nv has 84mm bore the thickness is nice in between and some guys don't like vanos because they fail at times. Truth is after the build I realized the motor I really like is the m52 because it has the 84mm crank plus the same 84mm bore = extra displacement needed yet nice thickness so you don't blow head gaskets as easily. The bonus is it comes with vanos and you get a cool OBDII valve cover. The s52 I sold...one thing that is nice about the non-M motors is they are much cheaper than the M motors. So you can sell your M motor and purchase the cheaper non-M to build up for MOPOWA! But what do I know...Mike R. ran the first 9 with an M50NV head. :dunno
Want more!!!!! Awesome stuff man. Looks so clean.-Chris
Thanks! You WILL get MOAR!

i would like to see you race tazam3 and get it on video that would be an awsome race.make sure you get it on vid.i know every bodyelse wants to see that to race of the year.and not only one race

i would like to see you race tazam3 and get it on video that would be an awsome race.make sure you get it on vid. I know every bodyelse wants to see that to race of the year.and not only one race
I'll see what I can do. It might all come down to who gets traction because his engine blows mine away. Will be fun regardless of the outcome but I bet he whoops my ass.

I'll see what I can do. It might all come down to who gets traction because his engine blows mine away. Will be fun regardless of the outcome but I bet he whoops my ass.

Cam what did you do to the head on this motor? If you're willing to let me know, I'm curious as to how high you plan to rev this beast, and what you've done to the head + valvetrain - it seems like an NV motor would be better suited to running 7500rpm than a VANOS one....:shifty

Cam what did you do to the head on this motor? If you're willing to let me know, I'm curious as to how high you plan to rev this beast, and what you've done to the head + valvetrain - it seems like an NV motor would be better suited to running 7500rpm than a VANOS one....:shifty
-full Ferrea valvetrain including +1mm oversized valves
-heavy port/polish
-valve job

all I can remember.

-full Ferrea valvetrain including +1mm oversized valves
-heavy port/polish
-valve job

all I can remember.

so what do you plan to rev to?

so what do you plan to rev to?
7200 at first and see where full boost comes in. If I feel the need for more rpm then I will go 7500.

8k or ban :rofl


we wish...

Then when I figured it out (after a bit of research on the e30 m3)
I'm likin the e30 retrofit. the knife edge flares work well... it fits correctly, not overdone. any bimmerfile will recognize the reference to bmw history:buttrock which i like.... a lot

UPDATE
Car is not on dyno yet. They have sand cars which had priority over my car so she is waiting but they hope to get her started today.

The good news is that I spoke with the manager at The Dyno Shop and mentioned to him that all the hard work will be done creating the first map and a race map with just some added timing/fuel in the higher KPA shouldn't be that big of deal. He absolutely agreed and said it would be no problem.

So I won't have to wait for another dyno day to have the race map tuned! :redspot I will have 25-30psi on 110 octane to video this weekend! :eek2

I'm likin the e30 retrofit. the knife edge flares work well... it fits correctly, not overdone. any bimmerfile will recognize the reference to bmw history:buttrock which i like.... a lot
Much appreciated! I love what i did because I did it for myself, but it is really nice to hear when others see what I tried to do and appreciate it.

Our cam makes the most power around 4.5k, i think it would be kind of pointless revving higher with the stock cam .

Our cam makes the most power around 4.5k, i think it would be kind of pointless revving higher with the stock cam .
What is "our" cam? I don't have the same cam as you, nor the same turbo. When you see the dyno you will see the difference in the curve.

What is "our" cam? I don't have the same cam as you, nor the same turbo. When you see the dyno you will see the difference in the curve.


I was thinkin E36 cam in general :dunno from the dyno sheets I saw.

I was thinkin E36 cam in general :dunno from the dyno sheets I saw.
All the different motors have different cams and the power band greatly depends on the type of turbo. A turbo like mine should pull horsepower all the way to redline without falling. Possibly same with torque. Your GT35R is different where it has awesome mid-range but will fall off up top. You probaboly don't feel that though because it still has so much power.

All the different motors have different cams and the power band greatly depends on the type of turbo. A turbo like mine should pull horsepower all the way to redline without falling. Possibly same with torque. Your GT35R is different where it has awesome mid-range but will fall off up top. You probaboly don't feel that though because it still has so much power.


Haha... only Cam would imply a GT35R is small.. only Cam..


Great work, lets see those full-boost tuned videos. :buttrock

All the different motors have different cams and the power band greatly depends on the type of turbo. A turbo like mine should pull horsepower all the way to redline without falling. Possibly same with torque. Your GT35R is different where it has awesome mid-range but will fall off up top. You probaboly don't feel that though because it still has so much power.


Gt35 also has very little lag on our I6s and is inherently streetable :)

Gt35 also has very little lag on our I6s and is inherently streetable :)
Exactly! I said it has has awesome mid-range! Insane turbo and I might get one to swap for road racing. Hell, that is what I had purchased and ready to go in the box before I sold my last turbo system when I decided to go stupid with the car. That is the best all-around street turbo IMO.

Exactly! I said it has has awesome mid-range! Insane turbo and I might get one to swap for road racing. Hell, that is what I had purchased and ready to go in the box before I sold my last turbo system when I decided to go stupid with the car. That is the best all-around street turbo IMO.
Cam, you're not fooling anyone - you don't want the best "all-around street turbo", you want MO POWA! :evil2:evil2

Cam, you're not fooling anyone - you don't want the best "all-around street turbo", you want MO POWA! :evil2:evil2
He He...well I was generalizing...for me you are absolutely right!

I need MO POWA!

so is the car coming tonight?

so is the car coming tonight?
No. :( Read other thread. It has sat at the dyno shop waiting for nearly 2 days now. Nothing I can do.

Damn it! It's like being a kid, waking up Christmas morning, and seeing the brand new bike that Santa left. Then you look out the window and see two feet of new snow.

Thanks Vik!

I will definitely come up to the OC/LA area once she is tuned and the suspension is all dialed in. I want to meet with you, Jon Sibal & Ryan Castro. Would be a nice little photo shoot, don't ya think? :)


errr...time to dust off the car and turn her on...hehe

Your car sounds insane man! Its about time that you got everything the way you wanted it. congrats!

-full Ferrea valvetrain including +1mm oversized valves
-heavy port/polish
-valve job

all I can remember.



And a special cermaic coating on th tops of the pistons,combustion chambers,valves and exhaust ports:)

errr...time to dust off the car and turn her on...hehe

Your car sounds insane man! Its about time that you got everything the way you wanted it. congrats!
Thanks a ton Ryan! Yes, it is about time! It is good to hear from you. Sorry to hear the Esquiss beast has been dorment. I look forward to meeting up with you and Jon possibly for a shoot.

your car is nice... one that i can say is a good all around example from cosmetics, to power, to tidiness, to every thing being right for each other. Im new to the forum so i dont know the entire story but from what ive read it seems like for all you have put into it, it paid off for you. Congrats man

photoshoot with cam, castro, blaise, steve, kurt, and vik plz

And a special ceramic coating on the tops of the pistons, combustion chambers, valves and exhaust ports :)
That stuff too. :stickoutt
your car is nice... one that i can say is a good all around example from cosmetics, to power, to tidiness, to every thing being right for each other. Im new to the forum so i dont know the entire story but from what ive read it seems like for all you have put into it, it paid off for you. Congrats man
Thanks! I have been busy but I will start working on the big thread where I will tell the story from start to present about the car. So far most of the car has exceeded my expectations. The widebody and the engine/turbo build definitely have. I still need to dial in the suspension by adding some more stuff, add a few more sensors for my multiple Defi gauge control, finish reinstalling my stereo system with wireless PC and the last thing is a special set of wheels I have in mind.
photoshoot with cam, castro, blaise, steve, kurt, and vik plz
For sure! And we must add Jon Sibal to that plus I am getting a friend of mine named Tom set up with a very nice GT35R DIY system so he should join in as well. We would have arctic silver, chrome shadow, black, estoril blue, hellrot red, whatever pimp red Vik's car is and dakar yellow. :buttrock

That stuff too. :stickoutt

Thanks! I have been busy but I will start working on the big thread where I will tell the story from start to present about the car. So far most of the car has exceeded my expectations. The widebody and the engine/turbo build definitely have. I still need to dial in the suspension by adding some more stuff, add a few more sensors for my multiple Defi gauge control, finish reinstalling my stereo system with wireless PC and the last thing is a special set of wheels I have in mind.

For sure! And we must add Jon Sibal to that plus I am getting a friend of mine named Tom set up with a very nice GT35R DIY system so he should join in as well. We would have arctic silver, chrome shadow, black, estoril blue, hellrot red, whatever pimp red Vik's car is and dakar yellow. :buttrock

Remember to reserve 10+ posts for yourself at the beginning of the thread

I think i've seen your car before... Was it at Danzio's shop in Elsinore?

Remember to reserve 10+ posts for yourself at the beginning of the thread
Thanks for reminding me! :thumbup:
I think i've seen your car before... Was it at Danzio's shop in Elsinore?
Yes, before it was widebody it sat there for about 5 months doing nothing so I collected the pieces and brought it all down south for the big build to begin.

Thanks for reminding me! :thumbup:

Yes, before it was widebody it sat there for about 5 months doing nothing so I collected the pieces and brought it all down south for the big build to begin.
Yup yup, I remember it. Was that a 35R? (sorry for not reading every page), what's the HP level/turbo setup?

Yup yup, I remember it. Was that a 35R? (sorry for not reading every page), what's the HP level/turbo setup?
You mean what is in it now? Or what was at Danzio? I had a new GT35R that I was going to use and was thinking of sticking with the turbo system I had before except with a built s52...then I changed my mind, sold my Supra and a whole bunch of craziness happened. I am constructing a full thread telling the entire story about the car from when I bought her with pictures and video. Anyway, it now has a pt76gts turbo.

As sick as the build is, and trust me I'm happy for you Cameron *NOT taking ANYthing away from this build what-so-ever* however, I'm still confused as to why you didn't go S54 + Boost, I know how much you admire the HPF kit + your experience in and with your builds see it as a perfect match. Ridiculous car, ridiculous build nevertheless.

Cheers,

- Nick

As sick as the build is, and trust me I'm happy for you Cameron *NOT taking ANYthing away from this build what-so-ever* however, I'm still confused as to why you didn't go S54 + Boost, I know how much you admire the HPF kit + your experience in and with your builds see it as a perfect match. Ridiculous car, ridiculous build nevertheless.

Cheers,

- Nick
-dual vanos
-drive-by-wire
-individual throttle bodies
-not as many aftermarket engine internal options available
-not as much knowledge about the motor
-above all............COST!

-dual vanos
-drive-by-wire
-individual throttle bodies
-not as many aftermarket engine internal options available
-not as much knowledge about the motor
-above all............COST!

Good point, but I wonder what boost response would be on x turbocharger (Say a 61 trim - T3 T61 / 60-1 / SC61) with Twin Vanos, tempting to even try a hand at a non M Twin Vanos motor just to see. Speaking of cost though, as you said, it is unfortunetly so true, someone has / had? a N/V M50 for $100.00 (Block) :devillook

Good point, but I wonder what boost response would be on x turbocharger (Say a 61 trim - T3 T61 / 60-1 / SC61) with Twin Vanos, tempting to even try a hand at a non M Twin Vanos motor just to see. Speaking of cost though, as you said, it is unfortunetly so true, someone has / had? a N/V M50 for $100.00 (Block) :devillook
Yeah I was basically starting at the same level no matter what motor I chose because I would be building, boring and stroking anyway. So it saved me money to sell my s52, start with a cheaper motor and build from there. I have a friend doing the same thing with an S50 but I talked him into an m52 as the base (which are still cheap motors). Bummer about the m50 is you have to change the crank to stroke more displacement.

UPDATE

91 California craptane map is finished with some fun looking results. :alright

110 motor octane map tuning begins! :redspot

I should have dyno sheets to post tonight showing curves only. :devillook

Deciding to only go to 22psi because I don't know about the head lift with this Frankenstein motor and I don't want to jeopardize it after waiting for so long. Once I have some fun on 22psi I might crank the biatch up later on. :)

UPDATE

91 California craptane map is finished with some fun looking results. :alright

110 motor octane map tuning begins! :redspot

I should have dyno sheets to post tonight showing curves only. :devillook

Deciding to only go to 22psi because I don't know about the head lift with this Frankenstein motor and I don't want to jeopardize it after waiting for so long. Once I have some fun on 22psi I might crank the biatch up later on. :)
Awesome news!, you must be losing your mind at this point, sooooo close to the end but not quite there yet. Can't wait to see that curve make a sharp northern swing at about 3500, I HATE that I will never know the horsepower figure, but I understand. Good luck.

Theres so much more to a fast car than just power numbers but they do put alittle perspective on things.

Theres so much more to a fast car than just power numbers but they do put alittle perspective on things.

But since this IS the FI forum, numbers (or trap speeds) mean a lot then.

I'm going to kill myself if i don't hear the hp figure.


please, save a benny.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/bennyfizzle/pandafizzle.jpg

Sounds fast...

But since this IS the FI forum, numbers (or trap speeds) mean a lot then.
I will see if the 1/8th mile is open this Friday night. Might do it just to see what 20psi traps.

But since this IS the FI forum, numbers (or trap speeds) mean a lot then.
Your right trap speeds and et time i would post because that is how fast you went. But what i meant was because a person, lets say has 500hp doesnt mean his car cant trap as fast as a 600hp car. But what i think people are talking about with Cam not posting numbers is his power numbers not trap numbers... am i right?

Your right trap speeds and et time i would post because that is how fast you went. But what i meant was because a person, lets say has 500hp doesnt mean his car cant trap as fast as a 600hp car. But what i think people are talking about with Cam not posting numbers is his power numbers not trap numbers... am i right?
Yeah they want dyno numbers. Not happening.

Yeah they want dyno numbers. Not happening.
Are you going to post both your trap and race weight? That would be a good way of providing rwhp #s without actually posting the number and dealing with the BS.

Ok so if no dyno sheets, than a video goin sideways at 70mph on the street is a must. :buttrock

Ok so if no dyno sheets, than a video goin sideways at 70mph on the street is a must. :buttrock

if that vid was WOT, and in second gear...that lack of spinning at that speed tells me that hes got too much traction to pull that off :eyecrazy

if that vid was WOT, and in second gear...that lack of spinning at that speed tells me that hes got too much traction to pull that off :eyecrazy

Its gonna be 3rd gear for him ...second is cake

......come on we need whp/wtq numbers!!....who cares what other people think about your dyno...just ignore them. :)

......come on we need whp/wtq numbers!!....who cares what other people think about your dyno...just ignore them. :)

as much as i agree with you i think this is a hopeless battle haha

when i finish my e30 335 combobulation i might not even get it dyno'd, i rather just get it corner weighted.. By the way Cam? How wide is your car now with the flared fenders.

that thing is scary... i think i might have just wet my pants... :eek:

if that vid was WOT, and in second gear...that lack of spinning at that speed tells me that hes got too much traction to pull that off :eyecrazy
Its gonna be 3rd gear for him ...second is cake
Benny is right Dragan. It is weird but I have never driven a car this fast that hooks. I get full traction with the combination of 315 drag radials and a 2.79 gear. I started in 1st gear in that video and the main pull was only second gear. See how long those gears are? Personally I love it. I love having traction. I did the slippety slide thing for years in my Supra so this is a very nice change. Tire slip just makes you slower and more out of control anyway. :buttrock

In-car video of a crazy 4th gear freeway pull coming soon guys! The car was all over the road, it was pretty scary. That is the fault of my bad alignment/tire balance issues which I will sort out ASAP.

......come on we need whp/wtq numbers!!....who cares what other people think about your dyno...just ignore them. :)

Its not so much the dyno as when you go to the track with the hp numbers people think you should run 7's.You know how a few people are.Take me for example I push my car on the dyno very hard.
I made 996whp.That does not mean that is what I run at the track I want to know what it is good to and stay under.I have been 26-27 psi and the car can go to 35psi.so there is room to play.

STICK TO YOUR GUNS CAM...but hurry to the track:D

(Im sure on day the number will be revealed)
Oh yea have I said you wide tire guys suck:lol;)

Benny is right Dragan. It is weird but I have never driven a car this fast that hooks. I get full traction with the combination of 315 drag radials and a 2.79 gear. I started in 1st gear in that video and the main pull was only second gear. See how long those gears are? Personally I love it. I love having traction. I did the slippety slide thing for years in my Supra so this is a very nice change. Tire slip just makes you slower and more out of control anyway. :buttrock

In-car video of a crazy 4th gear freeway pull coming soon guys! The car was all over the road, it was pretty scary. That is the fault of my bad alignment/tire balance issues which I will sort out ASAP.


I thought you still had a 3.23 diff :stickoutt, Still thats bad ass, put me on the list for a ride at bimmer fest :D