I almost never post here. Sorry if this is in the wrong place.Looking for an intake manifold for an m20 to run tripple DCOE style TB's. If anyone has one for sale or knows of one for sale please let me knowthomasjwinston AT yahoo DOT comThanks!

http://www.manifolds.co.za/bmw.htm

Yeah I emailed them about the manifold with the individual intakes.
They are very slow in getting back to me about how much it costs and if they have them in stock....

I got a reply yesterday... 1200 ZAR when I did a quick conversion that works out to be ~$184 which makes me happy - I replied and asked to confirm the exchange rate as well as how to purchase/calculate shipping, etc.If you are interested (I'm in Boston too) would you be interested in going in on the shipping and ship both sets together? I'm going to get two sets if it's really $185/set. I'll pay 2/3 of the shipping.

i would like to see some of pics of that

I got a reply yesterday... 1200 ZAR when I did a quick conversion that works out to be ~$184 which makes me happy - I replied and asked to confirm the exchange rate as well as how to purchase/calculate shipping, etc.If you are interested (I'm in Boston too) would you be interested in going in on the shipping and ship both sets together? I'm going to get two sets if it's really $185/set. I'll pay 2/3 of the shipping.

I want one, too! Maybe we can buy 3 and get them to your house - you'll ship mine domestic! I'm in Seattle. Would that work?

I have seen pictures. Nice work. I was thinking of ordering too. No linkage tho.

Hopefully they will get back to me soon - I really want to place an order. If you guys want to go in on shipping I would talk to them ASAP or we can use this thread to count up who, what when, etc... I'm happy to buy as long as I get money from you guys first.

Find out what the manifold and seperate throttle boddies cost and I will buy a set.

Find out what the manifold and seperate throttle boddies cost and I will buy a set.

This is JUST the manifolds only in a DCOE flange pattern. Would let you run TWM, Dbilas, Jenvey, or custom like Suzuki, BMW (Bimmer), etc.

Price is ~$190 + shipping (from South Africa) for the manifolds only - no TB's, no linkage, no gaskets, no isolators (between TB's and manifold)...

This is JUST the manifolds only in a DCOE flange pattern. Would let you run TWM, Dbilas, Jenvey, or custom like Suzuki, BMW (Bimmer), etc.

Price is ~$190 + shipping (from South Africa) for the manifolds only - no TB's, no linkage, no gaskets, no isolators (between TB's and manifold)...

Hi. Thats not what I wanted..but it might work.
I am looking for throttle bodies for an M20 and I do not know which one to use,
I do not want carbs.

He lists a manifold that uses Toyota individual throttle bodies.
This is what I want. Is that what you are talking about?

Second question: If you have that manifold that uses carbs - who are you going with...DBilas uses its own entire setup.

Whats wrong with the carbs joe?

(I have to use vtunnel from work so my posts are a little off)Heard back from Rowland. Prices are as follows: 1200zar for manifolds, 450zar for shipping to Boston, more to ship inland. The Dollar is moving around ALOT and Asia's sell off of the USD last night may push this up to a $200 part by week end if the Dollar falls more. Current exchange rates are as follows as of 11/8/07 but when they actually charge my credit card they will take the exchange rate of that day. Today's excahnge rate is $0.1543 : 1 South African Rand (ZAR). 1200 ZAR is $185.16 and 450 ZAR is $69.41 (Including tax, customs, etc.) I will be happy to lead this purchase if others want to get in - I will be buying two manifolds. ++Also if you want references for me you can go to e30tech (a few know me) and look at the same username or go to the 2002faq and look there too. If anyone has any concerns with me brokering this deal I will be happy to forward emails from Rowland proving prices and/or I will be happy to give my personal info out to you if you email me. I'll also be willing to setup some type of escrow account (although I have never done this) or work with the forum Mods so that you are comfortable and know you won't get screwed. ++jjgbmw323 - this is a manifold only. If you are farmilliar with a 2002 and a 2002 dual side draft setup this would be the equivalent of purchasing a set of DCOE manifolds that webers bolt on to. These are simply cast aluminum tubes that have the M20 bolt pattern on one end and a DCOE bolt pattern on the other - you can purchase EFI TB's from TWM, Jenvey, Dbilas, etc. to run fuel injected. I am running EFI as well - I have no desire to run carburetors. I'll dig up a photo and post a link (if I can)+http://www.itrspec.com/PICS/ITR/ITB/ITB_10.jpg+Take a look at this photo. You are buying the lower black part (fabricated in the photo). The part that you buy DOES NOT have injector ports in them - you WILL NEED to purchase either DCOE carburetors OR ITB's (Jenvey, Dbilas, TWM, custom) that have fuel injector ports built into them just after the throttle plate as the picture shows in the top aluminum section.+Please let me know if anyone has any questions. I would like to get a head count soon and make my purchase ASAP so if you are in - please let me know how you plan to get me money... if it's paypal then you are going to have to add 3% because you get dinged by paypal. Figure $200 deposit to buy the part and get it shipped to the US, then we will work out the details of shipping, etc. once I get a head count and a shipping quote for multiple units from Rowland.+thomasjwinston AT yahoo DOT com OR winstont AT direxionfunds DOT comper person should cover the paypal 3% fee plus shipping to you anywhere in the 48 states and CAN via USPS Priority Mail (insured). $185 + 3% = $191 + $9 shipping = $200. This does not include the $70 to ship the parts from SA to USA. Once I get a he

Here is the link http://www.itrspec.com/PICS/ITR/ITB/ITB_10.jpg My post got a little screwed up. once I get a solid head count (means money in hand) then we can work out shipping and final cost

that is a fine price for a triple dcoe manifold!

I'll be emailing them myself so i can use those triple 45mm dcoe webers i brought recently.

woohoo!!

i just did a currency calculation for 1200 rand to aus dollars.

$196....i am so in, i might buy two as well!

I'm thinking that if we got 10 units perhaps they would drop down to 1,000 ZAR - but I'm not sure

dang this is tempting, do you know if the port size is that of the eta or the 325i head? Also do they have the oil drain between cylinders 3 and 4 that runs to the block?

I would like to see the manifold is it set up for a left hand drive car ? I have 3 dcoe webers on my 323i and the manifold is only 30mm long and there is not much room to clear the brake booster like 5mm with 50mm stacks. the Distributor is real close too I have to take off one carb to get the cap off. If there long and go up and over the booster could be good. But shorter is best.
IS there a mount for the crank case vent? Is it cast for a 885 intake port or 200 port ?

You'll have to email them. There is the oil port in the middle casting. Not sure about much else - it is plumbed for an ICV as well as a brake booster. I believe that this setup was intended for an e30 - so it may not work for anything other than the 885 head.I will be doing a brake booster delete on my e21 and running the bare minimum as this will be a race car. no emails yet so as far as I'm concerned it will be just me purchasing two manifolds on my own.

Here is the link http://www.itrspec.com/PICS/ITR/ITB/ITB_10.jpg My post got a little screwed up. once I get a solid head count (means money in hand) then we can work out shipping and final cost

I'm in - just let me know when and how much (via paypal). I really look foward to this!

Hi

In europe most manifolds are downdraft as the dcoe's do not clear the LHD brake booster or steering coloumn, SA is RHD so it work checking the clearance.

My manifold is about 6" long and shapped like a swan neck,this lifts carbs clear above the booster & coloumn on a LHD car.

Jason

are you saying this will not clear the booster then on a LHD car? I'll be running without a booster but I don't want to get others on board and leave them stuck with a part that won't fit...

Hi

The manifolds are quite short, it might be worth mocking something up to check or ask if they have ever been fitted to LHD car

Jason

hmmm.... Well I know that I won't have a problem because of the booster delete and because the intake ports have been moved up 4mm (so the intake is up 4mm too). Would be nice to know if they have been fitted that way too. I will inquire now.

Rowland replied to my email over night, 1660 rand shipped to Aus, which works out to be $270-300 AUD and the middle manifold has the vent pipe fitting machined into it.

Yay RHD e21's!

Ok, If you can wait till next week for payment, and this think works with ITBS
(you have to show me who sells these and the linkeage) that I can get somewhere than I am in.

This will work for a e21 323i with 885 head and 2.9 m20???

Ok, If you can wait till next week for payment, and this think works with ITBS
(you have to show me who sells these and the linkeage) that I can get somewhere than I am in.

This will work for a e21 323i with 885 head and 2.9 m20???

Here you go:
http://www.tweakit.net/shop/product_info.php?cPath=57_49_32&products_id=114

Tweak-it in Australia sells a kit for the 6cyl DCOE manifold for $1,800.USD; here are a couple of pictures:

http://www.tweakit.net/shop/images/6cylC_throttles_2.gif

http://www.tweakit.net/shop/images/efi_hardware_tapered_throttle.gif

I was thinking about the dbilas one but with the weak dollar its too much:
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b297/jjgbmw323/a43.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b297/jjgbmw323/a39.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b297/jjgbmw323/db10010006.jpg

Can you clarify 2 points?
1. Oil return is in place and open?
2. Fits LHD w/o any booster issues?

Can you clarify 2 points?
1. Oil return is in place and open?
2. Fits LHD w/o any booster issues?

I am in too if you can clarify # 2 and can you clarify there is clearance for the
distributor ?

I was thinking about the dbilas one but with the weak dollar its too much:


http://e21.tricord.be/members/M42powered/stayontarget.jpg

Finish the car!

http://e21.tricord.be/members/M42powered/stayontarget.jpg

Finish the car!

YEAH I know Bro..got to finish it up...

Can you clarify 2 points?
1. Oil return is in place and open?
2. Fits LHD w/o any booster issues?
#1 - yes - oil return is there & open.
#2 - No idea... As this is JUST a manifold like the Dbilas one above so I know that the manifold will fit - your choice of TB/carbs and more importantly AIR HORNS will be the deciding factor. I will be running without a brake booster so I don't care. If you want to you could always purchase shortie air horns or bent ones...

weak dollar
it's only going to get worse. I was given a quote yesterday (Friday 11/9/07) of $685 for just the Dbilas manifolds - yes they are a true work of art... but no I can not reasonably afford them in my project. The cost of the Dbilas setup is the same as the Rowland manifold, TWM TB's, knife edge & lightened crank and pistons...

Is this happening? Let me know please! I need one and don't wait forever!

I have a set up on ebay

I have a set up on ebay

Does it fit 323 heads? Have you used the system in a LHD car?

Here you go:
http://www.tweakit.net/shop/product_info.php?cPath=57_49_32&products_id=114

Tweak-it in Australia sells a kit for the 6cyl DCOE manifold for $1,800.USD; here are a couple of pictures:

http://www.tweakit.net/shop/images/6cylC_throttles_2.gif

http://www.tweakit.net/shop/images/efi_hardware_tapered_throttle.gif

Wow, if that fits the head of an m20, i would sell my carb set up and run these with MS.

They fit but who knows how streetable they are.

well I'll say this definitely counts me out as far as custom making them. I can't make them for any cheaper than that.

They fit but who knows how streetable they are.

on the website, it shows alll the different sizes you can run. i dont think they would be more of a problem then 3 carbs.

They fit but who knows how streetable they are.

Man up! j/k, but they should be much more managable than triple carbs. There is nothing inherently unstreetable about 6 throttles. If you have any probalem at all, it's probably because your pedal linkage has the wrong ratio.