View Full Version : New Vorshlag wheel spacers, locking lug nuts


Fair
10-29-2007, 05:37 PM
Just wanted to post a quick announcement about some new products we've added to our catalog. We now have wheel spacers for the 5x120mm BMW E30/36/46/90 3 series in the following sizes: 5mm (non-hubcentric), 10mm, 15mm and 18mm. We stock these and price them very competitively. All of our spacers are made in Italy for Vorshlag.

http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/photos/214282157-M.jpg

BMW 5-lug offerings are shown here (http://www.vorshlag.com/cart/index.php?cPath=1_4_33). Our newest products are the 15 and 18mm hubcentric spacers. We've been using the 18s for most of this racing season - they work great on the E36 front for the D-Force 18x10! We've sold hundreds of the 10mm and 5mm spacers, and the 15mms have only been in the shopping cart for 2 days and have already started to sell briskly.

http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/photos/184216182-Th-1.jpghttp://www.vorshlag.com/cart/images/wheel_spacers_10mm_02_thm.jpghttp://vorshlag.smugmug.com/photos/184114287-Th.jpg (http://www.vorshlag.com/cart/index.php?cPath=1_4_33)http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/photos/202326567-Th-1.jpg (http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/photos/202326567-M-1.jpg)

We also just released new 4x100 bolt pattern 5mm spacers for E30s (4-lug (http://www.vorshlag.com/cart/index.php?cPath=1_17_32)) and locking lug nut sets for all M12x1.5 wheel studs (BMWs), too.

http://www.vorshlag.com/cart/images/4-lug-5mm.jpg (http://www.vorshlag.com/cart/index.php?cPath=1_17_32)http://www.vorshlag.com/cart/images/locking_lugs.jpg (http://www.vorshlag.com/cart/product_info.php?cPath=1_8_31&products_id=146)

Thanks,

The-Great-328ic
10-29-2007, 10:21 PM
are you guys having a group buy?

Robstah
10-29-2007, 11:02 PM
So the 5mm are non-hubcenteric, but the others are?

As much as I love the 10mm spacers on the rear, 15s would really set it off correctly. I may order them up from you. You should see an order of the locks coming in soon though. ;)

Fair
10-30-2007, 12:14 AM
So the 5mm are non-hubcenteric, but the others are?

As much as I love the 10mm spacers on the rear, 15s would really set it off correctly. I may order them up from you. You should see an order of the locks coming in soon though. ;)
Due to the factory hub extensions being nearly 10mm long, any spacer thinner than 10mm cannot have a hub extension... luckily with a 5mm spacer it doesn't matter, as the factory hub extension still contacts the inner hub section of most wheels.

We'll be on the lookout for your order, thanks. :)

are you guys having a group buy?
Nope, our prices are low enough that every day is a Group Buy. :D

Just wanted to introduce several new offerings - people had been asking for locking lug nuts, 5-lug 15mm spacers and 4-lug spacers for a while.

The-Great-328ic
10-30-2007, 12:20 AM
at least free shipping? :D

p.s. do you sell the extended bolts?

sirius600
10-30-2007, 07:09 AM
Damn, i wish you had released these a week ago when i bought my wheel studs. :D

John in Houston
10-30-2007, 08:32 AM
p.s. do you sell the extended bolts?


Bolts bad... studs good

The-Great-328ic
10-30-2007, 09:16 PM
ok I just ordered a pair of 15mm spacers, please for the love of God send them as soon as possible, I need them by Sat the latest.

I was going to order from another company but they are located in the east, and you guys are in TX, and I need them asap :D

thanks


-Jose

Fair
10-31-2007, 12:30 AM
ok I just ordered a pair of 15mm spacers, please for the love of God send them as soon as possible, I need them by Sat the latest...
They are boxed up and ready to go out tomorrow morning. :)

The-Great-328ic
10-31-2007, 02:38 AM
that's what I call good customer service
:)

JCz04Bimmer
10-31-2007, 10:52 AM
Hey! I've been lurking around your website for the past few weeks waiting to pull the trigger on some spacers. I'm thinking of running a 5mm up front and 10mm out back for my 45mm offset wheels. I may end up wanting to go with a 12mm out back but I want to see how things fit first. No rubbing allowed!

So I'm going to order today (within the next hour) but was also curious if you planned to get the black lug nuts in stock any time soon. They've been out of stock according to your website for some time!

Also, I know you can't make any guarantees, but can I expect to receive the spacers by Saturday if the order is placed today? I'm located in NYC.

Fair
10-31-2007, 11:25 AM
Hey! I've been lurking around your website for the past few weeks waiting to pull the trigger on some spacers. I'm thinking of running a 5mm up front and 10mm out back for my 45mm offset wheels. I may end up wanting to go with a 12mm out back but I want to see how things fit first. No rubbing allowed!

So I'm going to order today (within the next hour) but was also curious if you planned to get the black lug nuts in stock any time soon. They've been out of stock according to your website for some time!

Also, I know you can't make any guarantees, but can I expect to receive the spacers by Saturday if the order is placed today? I'm located in NYC.
Oh snap! The inventory management system that is part of our online cart system is a real bugger, and I just noticed that it showed a -21 inventory on black lugs. :mad In reality we never ran out, and we always keep 500-1000+ lugs and studs of every flavor in stock. Sorry about that confusion. :)

We are out of 15mm spacers - you guys wiped out that inventory within 48 hours of me posting this thread - but we'll have lots more in a couple of days. Thanks! :cool

As for shipping, getting a package to NYC from Texas is going to be ~4 days UPS Ground and ~3 days USPS Priority... so pick USPS and you should be OK. Luckily Saturday deliveries are part of that service, but tracking is almost worthless compared to UPS. If it is critical to get them by Friday, you should do UPS 2nd Day.

Thanks,

JCz04Bimmer
10-31-2007, 11:40 AM
Thanks for the info!

That's a major bummer about the black nuts being in stock after all, though! I just placed an order with Turner for all of my stud/nut needs and certainly spent more money than I needed to! I think the total package of 20 75mm studs along with 20 nuts came to around $180. If I went with you guys it would have been $105. Oh well.

Either way, I still needs those spacers by the weekend so I'm going to likely still place my order by mid-afternoon. I'll get it in the system before 3PM.

EDIT - Can I go with USPS Express? That's 1 day shipping and its a few bucks less than UPS's 2-Day shipping?

Fair
10-31-2007, 12:31 PM
Either way, I still needs those spacers by the weekend so I'm going to likely still place my order by mid-afternoon. I'll get it in the system before 3PM.

EDIT - Can I go with USPS Express? That's 1 day shipping and its a few bucks less than UPS's 2-Day shipping?
Sometimes its tough to make another shipping run late in the day (I've already made two shipping drop offs today) but in a pinch and with some advanced notice we can get shipments processed, packed and shipped out the same day.

Since you gave me ample notice, I will deliver them to the post office today if you get the order in by 3 pm. :) We don't have 12mm spacers (spec'd, but none built yet) but we have lots of the 10mm spacers you mentioned in stock.

JCz04Bimmer
10-31-2007, 12:52 PM
Sometimes its tough to make another shipping run late in the day (I've already made two shipping drop offs today) but in a pinch and with some advanced notice we can get shipments processed, packed and shipped out the same day.

Since you gave me ample notice, I will deliver them to the post office today if you get the order in by 3 pm. :) We don't have 12mm spacers (spec'd, but none built yet) but we have lots of the 10mm spacers you mentioned in stock.
Understood and sounds good. I'm submitting my order now. Still bummed out that I spent $85 extra at Turner! But hey, I saved plenty by going with your spacers!

Quick question though. I have SSR Comp-H wheels on my car now. They are all fitted with a sizing ring which is recessed slightly from the hub face. I'd say its set back about 2-5mm. When setting the wheels to the stock hub, the hub extends far enough into the wheel hole so that the sizing ring is the point of contact and everything is therefore hubcentric. Now, with the 5mm spacer up front, will the stock hub extend far enough beyond the spacer to reach the spacing ring? For the rear, is the lip on the 10mm spacer long enough to extend far enough to reach the spacing ring? I know this was a question that was likely better asked BEFORE placing my order! Just wondering if you have experience with this sort of situation and/or this wheel.

justaddcoffee
11-01-2007, 03:01 PM
kind of the same question. i'm running SSR-comp H as well.

also, maybe i missed it, do they spacers all come with the extended lugs?

Fair
11-01-2007, 04:11 PM
kind of the same question. i'm running SSR-comp H as well.
I don't have any experience with the newer SSR Comp-H models. We used some of the older SSR Comps on another car this year, but they didn't have plastic hub resizing rings (yuck!). Did all of the Comp-H models get heavier? Seems like they all picked up 2-3+ pounds over the old Comps.

Take a digital picture showing what is going on with these "rings", and how they seat into the wheels, please. Our spacers are similar to other quality hub-centric designs, nothing different other than the price. :)

also, maybe i missed it, do they spacers all come with the extended lugs?
No, the spacers include the... spacers. :) We also sell longer wheel stud kits as a separate item.

Some companies pre-package wheel spacers with long wheel bolts, but we neither sell wheel bolts nor do we pre-package spacers+wheel studs as kits. We offer too many wheel stud kit options as it is, with chrome or black lug nuts, 4- and 5-lug 60mm wheel stud kits, 4- and 5-lug 80/60mm combo kits (half 60s, half 80s), and then 75 and 90mm competition studs sold individually. If we pre-packaged spacers with every stud option we make it would add another 50+ part numbers to our catalog, at least. Confusing...

Fair
11-01-2007, 06:14 PM
http://www.vorshlag.com/cart/product_info.php?products_id=148 - another brand new Vorshlag product you have to have!

:devillook

JCz04Bimmer
11-02-2007, 12:36 PM
I don't have any experience with the newer SSR Comp-H models. We used some of the older SSR Comps on another car this year, but they didn't have plastic hub resizing rings (yuck!). Did all of the Comp-H models get heavier? Seems like they all picked up 2-3+ pounds over the old Comps.

Take a digital picture showing what is going on with these "rings", and how they seat into the wheels, please. Our spacers are similar to other quality hub-centric designs, nothing different other than the price. :)

Certain offsets of the SSR Comp-H wheels have a larger center bore than the stock 72.6mm (??) sizing. Because of this, TireRack ships these particular wheel with a sizing ring of whatever thickness to allow for the wheel to be hubcentric. This ring is recessed beyond the flat of the hub face into the center bore by approx 5mm. I'm guessing on that because they aren't in front of me but its about that. Its held in by friction and works fine.

The concern I have is more with the 5mm spacer. Because this size doesn't have a hub lip and uses the pre-existing hub lip, I'm afraid that when I mount the spacer, then the wheel, the stock hub lip won't extend far enough anymore into the wheel's hub to rest on the required sizing ring. The rear, on the other hand, I don't have much of a concern because the 10mm spacer includes its own hubcentric lip. Is the lip on your hubcentric spacers (10mm and up) the same size as the lip that extends out of the stock hub? If it is, then there will certainly be no problem with the rear.

I'll be sure to report back once I try the install this weekend. And BTW, the package arrived today. I think it went out yesterday but I had opted for USPS Express so no worries! Can't wait to rip open the box when I get home!

Fair
11-02-2007, 03:14 PM
Certain offsets of the SSR Comp-H wheels have a larger center bore than the stock 72.6mm (??) sizing. Because of this, TireRack ships these particular wheel with a sizing ring of whatever thickness to allow for the wheel to be hubcentric. This ring is recessed beyond the flat of the hub face into the center bore by approx 5mm. I'm guessing on that because they aren't in front of me but its about that. Its held in by friction and works fine.

The concern I have is more with the 5mm spacer. Because this size doesn't have a hub lip and uses the pre-existing hub lip, I'm afraid that when I mount the spacer, then the wheel, the stock hub lip won't extend far enough anymore into the wheel's hub to rest on the required sizing ring. The rear, on the other hand, I don't have much of a concern because the 10mm spacer includes its own hubcentric lip. Is the lip on your hubcentric spacers (10mm and up) the same size as the lip that extends out of the stock hub? If it is, then there will certainly be no problem with the rear.
Ahh, so the wheels are made to fit both the big Bimmers and the 3 series (different hub sizes). It should work - won't be as ideal as if you could squeeze a hubcentric spacer in there (which all start at 10mm thick, for everyone's BMW spacers) - but it should be fine. As always, test fit the wheels onto any new spacers & hubs and make sure everything sits flush and square. :)

I'll be sure to report back once I try the install this weekend. And BTW, the package arrived today. I think it went out yesterday but I had opted for USPS Express so no worries! Can't wait to rip open the box when I get home!
Your item was delivered at 10:38 AM on November 2, 2007 in (address removed). The item was signed for by (name removed). (PM'd full tracking report)

Isn't it cool to come home on a Friday with new parts waiting for you? :cool

JCz04Bimmer
11-02-2007, 03:28 PM
Ahh, so the wheels are made to fit both the big Bimmers and the 3 series (different hub sizes). It should work - won't be as ideal as if you could squeeze a hubcentric spacer in there (which all start at 10mm thick, for everyone's BMW spacers) - but it should be fine. As always, test fit the wheels onto any new spacers & hubs and make sure everything sits flush and square. :)

Exactly. I think they drilled that center bore for the larger hub models. For the rear 10mm spacer, I'll first mate the spacer with the wheel to ensure that it sits square and that center lip on the spacer mates with the sizing ring they put in there. Like I said, that ring is slightly recessed but not by much. Just from eyeballing it, it looks like the 10mm spacer's center lip will reach it. For the front 5mm spacer, I think I'll just need to keep my fingers crossed that the stock center hub lip extends enough into the wheel's center bore to meet up with the sizing ring there.


Isn't it cool to come home on a Friday with new parts waiting for you? :cool

It most certainly is! Thanks for the fast turn around. Can't wait to rip the package open. They'll be fitted tomorrow!

The-Great-328ic
11-04-2007, 06:58 PM
Got my spacers on Friday, and I'm very happy with the quality
A+

JCz04Bimmer
11-05-2007, 10:42 AM
Got my spacers on Friday as well and installed them over the weekend. Everything went smoothly and the SSR wheels, with their hubcentric sizing ring, did not present any problems with the 5mm or 10mm spacer. My initial concern was that the sizing ring for the SSR wheels would sit too far recessed into the wheel for the spacer's hub lip to reach it. But then I realized I was being stupid and just mounted to sizing ring to the spacer's lip itself and then placed the wheel on. Everything bolted up flush and there was zero vibration or issues!

Great stuff!

Even though now I'm thinking I might try to pull off a 15mm rear spacer! We shall see...