View Full Version : M3 vs. Impala SS and F&F Civic


adc
03-26-2003, 07:12 PM
Yesterday I had the pleasure to catch up to this cocky (but not for long) Chevy Impala SS - you know, the one with the Covette V8 in it and steamroller tires. He was taking off very aggresively at every light, so I snuck behind him and at the next light proceeded to pass him and sneak back into his lane (took him by surprise).

On green I took of fast (but not 100%) and all the way to 80mph he could not close the gap at all. He took this very personally so at the next light he took off hard (squealing tires and all) and gained maybe half a car or so. I took off fast, but no spin and by the end of second I was in front of him. We stayed fairly even after that and I wasn't really pushing it to the maximum, as we were nearing another stoplight and more cars.

We then entered an on-ramp with an Accord in front, so halfway up the ramp I downshifted to 2nd at around 40 mph and got ready, then hit it full on as soon as the ramp unwinded into the freeway. I got a little wheelspin doing that, but nothing major. He didn't have the slightest chance, as I redlined 3rd he was 3 cars back, then more. He may have shut it down around 80 or so because the highway is a scary collection of uneven concrete pads that bounce you around like corks on choppy water. But the M negotiated the tricky terrain without a glitch.

So all in all I beat him 3 times: 2 stoplights (1 close, 1 not) and 1 highway (very bad). He was cool and waved (I think) as we parted ways. Either that or showed me the finger (too dark to tell).

O yes, the Fast&Furious Civic was not even close to being a contender. He tried to stay close to us but was way out of his depths.

What I learned was that if you want to win, you need to commit 100%. A 1 second difference between cars means absolutely nothing on the street, where a botched shift can cost you 2 seconds and where drivers of auto-tranny cars need only flex their right foot and hang on to the wheel. But without mistakes, a commited M3 is a truly ferocious car.

On the other hand, I had the ASC on the whole way :) so I gues he wasn't that fast after all. He was making good noise though.

All in all, a good night to represent M cars,

adc
98 M3

SilverStreak
03-26-2003, 07:19 PM
Good kills! :buttrock

dave is cool
03-26-2003, 07:48 PM
Nice kills. But you didn't mention the Civic racing anywhere. Or did you accidentally type Accord in your post?

adc
03-26-2003, 07:59 PM
Sorry about that, he just was never a contender. He would always dissappear from my field of vision, only to catch up to us at the next light. 2 kids in there with their seats reclined all the way and their noses peaking over the dash. Reminded me of little children trying to spy into the neighbor's yard :devillook.

I was wondering for a second there, because he had full (painted!) body kit, suspension, wheels, sewer pipe exhaust and of course a mean wing. Lots of show but no go, though you can never tell when a turbo or nitrous lurks underneath.

adc
98 M3

document
03-27-2003, 02:52 AM
Nicely done. Did the SS have a bunch of performance stickers on the rear side windows?

phillyB///M3
03-27-2003, 03:28 AM
nice kiLL!... theres a bunch of those Impala SS's around here but they never realy step up! wish they did....

Croak
03-27-2003, 04:36 AM
265 hp 300ish torque stock in a 4000+ pound plus automatic. Was sorta kinda hot back in the early 90's. It's not a Vette motor, it's a detuned Z-28 motor.

Can be modded to hell and back like any GM 5.7, but it's still in a whale disguised as a car. ;)

SilverStreak
03-27-2003, 09:16 AM
The Impala SS, Z28, and Vette all had LT1's in them, just in various states of tune/rating....

e34biturbo
03-27-2003, 11:28 AM
Originally posted by Croak
265 hp 300ish torque stock in a 4000+ pound plus automatic. Was sorta kinda hot back in the early 90's. It's not a Vette motor, it's a detuned Z-28 motor.

Can be modded to hell and back like any GM 5.7, but it's still in a whale disguised as a car. ;)

alot of high powered 'SS's there
My friend has one actuall 3 of them 1 of each color.....

and on his he has done some trick, old fashioned modding....

aluminum heads
mucho aggressive cams
CAI
free flow exhaust
hypertech computer tuning
adj fpr larger injectors

and belts out 335 WHP and 370 WTRQ
with 2.93 LDS and a top speed of 185 and driven by "The intimidator" before he died......

These are some nice cars

adc
03-27-2003, 12:05 PM
Cannot tell about the engine, but the exaust was stock. And by the way I really blew him out of the water when I tried, I's say he was stock.

adc
98 M3

ASCH MAN
03-27-2003, 04:27 PM
adc, you can spin your tires in 2nd by just giving it gas? Mine does not even come close to that unless it is a hard turn. Even in first unless it is a hard launch, the wheels will not chirp at all straight line.

What type of mods do you have?

adc
03-27-2003, 05:02 PM
AudioMan,

I can spin the tires in 2nd in almost anything but a straight line, maybe not so easy in the summer. In the winter/wet I spin them in 2nd in a straight line as well. As for 1st, it's Spin City anytime :).

I run OEM wheels with OEM Pilot Sports, on OEM suspension. My tires rarely chirp, but rather they just smoothly loose traction. I have an intake and AA exhaust, don't think this gives me such a great HP bump. Maybe I have worn bushings that allow some "wiggle" room and upset the suspension geometry during hard cornering/acceleration and this leads to wheelspin (OK, now I'm reaaaally stretching it).

I never dyno'ed my engine so I don't know how strong it is. When I bought it it did seem a little stronger than other contenders... so who knows. I thought everybody experiences the same traction issues as I do. I thought it was sort of fun :).

Maybe your tires are better?? Or my foot heavier? :eek:

adc
98 M3

ASCH MAN
03-27-2003, 05:08 PM
Maybe the extra 15 HP from the intake and exhaust is just enough to let the rear tires loose. I have pretty new tires that came with the car and no real performance mods. Mabye I need to dyno to make sure my car is not too weak, however everything seems in order. :az: Nice kill.

I will be attempting to spin my tires in 1st going straight all way home tonight. Thanks for ruining my new tires, it is all your fault.:devillook

adc
03-27-2003, 05:15 PM
Originally posted by AudioMan
I will be attempting to spin my tires in 1st going straight all way home tonight. Thanks for ruining my new tires, it is all your fault.:devillook

Always glad to be of service... :devillook

Please remember to try to spin them in 2nd through the corners too...

adc
98 M3

slickav
03-27-2003, 05:21 PM
Most Impalas around here are monsters.

SilverStreak
03-27-2003, 05:38 PM
Try getting sideways at the drag strip on a prepped surface with drag radials on the 3-4 shift at 93 mph... :evil2

adc
03-27-2003, 05:44 PM
Originally posted by SilverStreak
Try getting sideways at the drag strip on a prepped surface with drag radials on the 3-4 shift at 93 mph... :evil2

Ummm, no thanks. I like my heart to stay where it is right now and my bowels to move only when I am ready.

adc
98 M3

SilverStreak
03-27-2003, 05:50 PM
:lol:

You get used to it.... :devillook

Actually, it keeps your ass in check knowing what it can do at the track with 275's/DR's, when you're on the street on OEM street tires/245's... :D