Thanks!

Thanks!
I just installed the vorshlag poly mounts last week and they are awesome. It firmed up the motor as far as side to side movement, took away 90% of my cluth chatter, and the shifting also feels better. If your concerned about vibration, there really is very very little over stock mounts, the only noticable vibration difference is when the starter is engaged.

very good! thanks! how much did they run you? any other parts you installed (or recommend installing) when i get this done?

thanks a ton!

I have the Ireland mounts Cannot tell they are aftermarket except when I shift... And they are under a 100 for a pair... :)

Under 100?!?!? Damn, man.

I went with the UUC polys. Absolutely love them. Not sure why so many ppl talk crap about non-OEM mounts vibrating too much. I hardly notice these. Definintely recommend.

i went with the uuc as well

Under 100?!?!? Damn, man.

I went with the UUC polys. Absolutely love them. Not sure why so many ppl talk crap about non-OEM mounts vibrating too much. I hardly notice these. Definintely recommend.

Edit $109 now from bimmerworld...

Edit $109 now from bimmerworld...


100$ from ireland

I never go to Ireland's website, or else I probably would have gone with those. I am a big fan of UUC though, and don't regret my decision. Great deal though.

How necessary are these items when going F/I?

Depends how much you like missing shifts. :D

BTW- I think this thread has the record for most posts in the shortest amount of time.

I got the UUC Race motor mounts and race trans mounts with enforcers. Planning on replacing the rest of the mounts with UUC stuff.

vorshlag
http://www.vorshlag.com/motormounts.php

I've had my stock mount location break (this is common). I wonder if the stiffer mounts would put even more stress on this location(where it mounts to the subframe). You guys who are running them should look into reinforcing that area, if you haven't already.

Yes, I have heard that. It is definitely on the to-do list.

very good! thanks! how much did they run you? any other parts you installed (or recommend installing) when i get this done?

thanks a ton!
They run 179 a set, a bit pricey but it has really nice machined aluminum bases and a replacable poly center section. If you use these, reinforcing the mounting points on the front subframe wouldn't be a bad idea.

How necessary are these items when going F/I?

Yes, I have heard that. It is definitely on the to-do list.

It is on the todo list :) with a bigger turbo :alright

1/4 of this stock mount is cut out to fit this guy... :(
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l99/JOrdanmd88/DSCF0794.jpg

Here are the Ireland mounts same turbo
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l99/JOrdanmd88/BMW%20SUMMER%202007/DSCF1504.jpg

fits perfect...

It is on the todo list :) with a bigger turbo :alright

1/4 of this stock mount is cut out to fit this guy... :(
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l99/JOrdanmd88/DSCF0794.jpg

Here are the Ireland mounts same turbo
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l99/JOrdanmd88/BMW%20SUMMER%202007/DSCF1504.jpg

fits perfect...
The Vorshlag mounts are tapered at the top and gave me about 3/4 of an inch of clearance. What manifold are you using?

I just went with stock...I believe Marco went with some aftermarket ones....can't remember which ones but he seems to like them. I figured I'll just replace them in another 100k or so....

The Vorshlag mounts are tapered at the top and gave me about 3/4 of an inch of clearance. What manifold are you using?

SPA

I just went with stock...I believe Marco went with some aftermarket ones....can't remember which ones but he seems to like them. I figured I'll just replace them in another 100k or so....

I'm pretty sure he went with the Vorschlags.

Yeah... I think every set of polys got good reviews. I would not hesitate to buy them. Just go with whichever company is the cheapest.

Yeah... I think every set of polys got good reviews. I would not hesitate to buy them. Just go with whichever company is the cheapest.

but which one is the cheapest? ireland has them for 50 a piece. and i just cant get vorshlags site to work for me. so which company has the cheapest mounts?

The Vorshlag and UUC ones are around 180 for polys, 160 for nylons, IIRC. Ireland is by far the cheapest. I wonder why they are so much cheaper... Not trying to incinuate anything, just curious.

Ireland is cheap, and so far they are working out great for me. Not too harsh, but then again, I'm used to a stiff, bumpy ride (H&R Race springs, 18" wheels, poly bushings).

So Ireland is the best for the money than?

So Ireland is the best for the money than?

i would think so.

i like the design of the vorshlag but thats almost twice as much for something that may not be even noticeable.

ireland has great products all around.

http://store.nexternal.com/shared/StoreFront/default.asp?CS=ireland&StoreType=BtoC&Count1=76748073&Count2=993888497&CategoryID=7&Target=products.asp

they look halfway decent. how many do i need? 2? How much am i looking at for install?

i looked at the vorshlag parts. They definitely look like they are superior (and the price really reflects that extra work). I'm gonna go with polyurethane over the nylon. They even mention that you shouldnt run solid motor mounts if you have the tranny mounts and enforcers done (which i have) or a ltw flywheel (which I have) because it puts stress on teh mounting points and increases flywheel chatter respectively..

I have noticed no additional chatter, and I have a LTW flywheel, the poly motor mounts AND the poly trans mounts with enforcers.:dunno

Also, if you are mechanically inclined at all, I would just install them yourself. It is pretty straight-forward.

i think they were referring to the nylon items.

i looked at the vorshlag parts. They definitely look like they are superior (and the price really reflects that extra work). I'm gonna go with polyurethane over the nylon. They even mention that you shouldnt run solid motor mounts if you have the tranny mounts and enforcers done (which i have) or a ltw flywheel (which I have) because it puts stress on teh mounting points and increases flywheel chatter respectively..

Jon get the Vorshlag Poly mounts....:)

Jon get the Vorshlag Poly mounts....:)

yes sir! :buttrock any reasons you can give me for spending the extra ~100 over the Ireland Engineering mounts? Thanks!:buttrock

The Ireland mounts look ALOT like Tranny Mounts (very small compared to factory or Vorshlag/Rogue mounts).

Keep in mind that many of these mounts dont include the safety precaution of the 2 halves of the mount being chained/connected internally. Should the mount break in a collision, most of these (IE in particular) might send the motor into the cabin, whereas a Rogue Mount or GruppeN mount maintain this safety feature of the 2 halves being chained together internally. Just FYI.

yes sir! :buttrock any reasons you can give me for spending the extra ~100 over the Ireland Engineering mounts? Thanks!:buttrock


Can only speak to the quality of the Vorshlags...
They are $179 plus shipping...big deal...;)
Cheapest thing I have ever bought for my car...

If the Irelands are $100 less...I cannot inagine ( not that it is bad) that I could get mounts for $80 bucks??...

For the install time to install them, and how crucial they are..$179 doesn't seem like alot to me....:)

Keep in mind that many of these mounts dont include the safety precaution of the 2 halves of the mount being chained/connected internally. Should the mount break in a collision, most of these (IE in particular) might send the motor into the cabin, whereas a Rogue Mount or GruppeN mount maintain this safety feature of the 2 halves being chained together internally. Just FYI.

have you even seen the IE mounts in person ?:confused

have you even seen the IE mounts in person ?:confused
Nope...Just going off the pictures posted above by Jordan.

Do they have the internal safety feature as posted about above?

heres a pic of the UUC race, havent had a chance to install them but theyll be goin in along with a jtd brace and there black mounts

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a16/vdubdork/bug036.jpg

Nope...Just going off the pictures posted above by Jordan.

Do they have the internal safety feature as posted about above?

yes

they look nothing like tranny mounts, unless you think a tranny mount is the size of a coke can.




GruppeN mount maintain this safety feature of the 2 halves being chained together internally. Just FYI.

& FYI
this is false , ive sheared a gruppeN mount completely in half on my coupe

Can only speak to the quality of the Vorshlags...
They are $179 plus shipping...big deal...;)
Cheapest thing I have ever bought for my car...

If the Irelands are $100 less...I cannot inagine ( not that it is bad) that I could get mounts for $80 bucks??...

For the install time to install them, and how crucial they are..$179 doesn't seem like alot to me....:)

considering the uuc pars are $215+, you have a point...

im going ireland mounts since thier the cheapest and more of an upgrade then going with stockers. hopefully thier a better design.

You guys can take this for what it is worth, but my Ireland Engineering motor mounts show signs of cracking after about 3 years of use or so (and I am not talking about hair line cracks either). Granted, my car is not stock (it is not FI either), but it has seen primarily auto-x duty and DEs (3 events) since they were installed. No daily driving.

I don't have access to my car right now but I can take pics this weekend of what I am talking about. I have a set of UUC mounts I will be replacing them with.

You guys can take this for what it is worth, but my Ireland Engineering motor mounts show signs of cracking after about 3 years of use or so. Granted, my car is not stock (it is not FI either), but it has seen primarily auto-x duty and DEs (3 events) since they were installed. No daily driving.

I don't have access to my car right now but I can take pics this weekend of what I am talking about. I have a set of UUC mounts I will be replacing them with.

Wierd, I had about 10k miles of beating the SHIT out of my old IE motor mounts on my e30. They held up fine, other than one melting because of my lack of a heat shield :devillook

They were great for me, tempted to get them for my e36 as well.

Wierd, I had about 10k miles of beating the SHIT out of my old IE motor mounts on my e30. They held up fine, other than one melting because of my lack of a heat shield :devillook

They were great for me, tempted to get them for my e36 as well.
I actually just found out about it this past weekend when I was under my car to do some other work. I was disappointed to say the least.

Wierd, I had about 10k miles of beating the SHIT out of my old IE motor mounts on my e30. They held up fine, other than one melting because of my lack of a heat shield :devillook

They were great for me, tempted to get them for my e36 as well.

Did you have a turbo on the e30 or did they just melt from the heat of a n/a manifold/exhaust system?

Did you have a turbo on the e30 or did they just melt from the heat of a n/a manifold/exhaust system?

Turbo.

http://smeraglinolo.com/hosted/olde30/DSC_0617.jpg

You guys can take this for what it is worth, but my Ireland Engineering motor mounts show signs of cracking after about 3 years of use or so (and I am not talking about hair line cracks either). Granted, my car is not stock (it is not FI either), but it has seen primarily auto-x duty and DEs (3 events) since they were installed. No daily driving.

I don't have access to my car right now but I can take pics this weekend of what I am talking about. I have a set of UUC mounts I will be replacing them with.

but im wondering what it would be like just regular driving. auto X and DEs are pretty much beating on hte car since your in high revs most of the time right? and well you just beat the crap out of them. im guessing it wouldnt crack or anything for regular driving with a little something hear and thier.

but im wondering what it would be like just regular driving. auto X and DEs are pretty much beating on hte car since your in high revs most of the time right? and well you just beat the crap out of them. im guessing it wouldnt crack or anything for regular driving with a little something hear and thier.
That is true. However an auto-x event is essentially 4 min (assuming 4, 60 sec runs) of hard running, in my case 1-2 times a month for 8 months out of the year and then 3 DE weekends with 8 20 min sessions per event weekend. I wouldn't think I would see the type of cracks after that type of running.

That is true. However an auto-x event is essentially 4 min (assuming 4, 60 sec runs) of hard running, in my case 1-2 times a month for 8 months out of the year and then 3 DE weekends with 8 20 min sessions per event weekend. I wouldn't think I would see the type of cracks after that type of running.

thats 224 minutes of harsh driving. then on top of it you still have daily driving. assuming that you daily drive the car. and 3 years of that. thats pretty harsh on the car. how are your transmission mounts? you notice any cracking on those?

thats 224 minutes of harsh driving. then on top of it you still have daily driving. assuming that you daily drive the car. and 3 years of that. thats pretty harsh on the car. how are your transmission mounts? you notice any cracking on those?
The car is NOT daily driven and has not been for some time (even before the engine swap when the new mounts were put in). The tranny mounts had pretty much disintegrated, but they had been on the car much longer. Funny thing is, I never even felt anything to think the mounts needed to be replaced.

Vorshlag Nylon Mounts here.

Very nice. Minimal Vibration. Rock solid in transitions. Shifts are perfect.

The vibrations are less annoying than my exhaust's sound. By a lot.

They held up fine, other than one melting because of my lack of a heat shield :devillook

Found an old pic:

http://smeraglinolo.com/hosted/meltedmount.jpg

I think it was partially due to steady state tuning on the dyno. Shit gets hot there, and not as much airflow through the engine bay.

isnt that the exhaust manifold right next to it ?

does anyone else have bad review on the ireland mounts? i need to make a decision quickly. its either go stock or go ireland? what would you do in my situation?
and the melted ireland mount looks like cheese.

I'd still go with an ireland mount, even after my melting mishap.

They didn't give off much vibration and felt really great when pounding gears.

alrighty just ordered me some ireland mounts. ill report back when they come in and are installed.

cool. keep us posted.

Here is a pic of the Ireland Engineering engine mounts. Not the best picture, but if you look at the top of the mount, you will see the cracking I am talking about........

thanks, im gonna go with the vorshlags or the UUCs.

hmm instresting. well mine are on the way lets see how they do for street only. just random drifts and launches here and thier but a full street car.

Here is a pic of the Ireland Engineering engine mounts. Not the best picture, but if you look at the top of the mount, you will see the cracking I am talking about........

Hmmm, shouldn't that be covered by warranty?

one would hope so.

Hmmm, shouldn't that be covered by warranty?
I doubt it. Since it is a race part. I already have some UUC engine mounts (which I got for free) so I plan to stick those in there.