Anyone using this lever from UUC? It's reasonably cheap and backed up by UUC's usual technical data on the site. Any first hand experiences? Rob?

How about any other good race/track shifters out there?

http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/UUCRSK/UUCRSK_1.jpg

I recently had the UUC short shift kit installed along with their light weight flywheel and M5 clutch for my euro 3.2. Wow, what a major improvement.

As for the short shifter...loved the feel. The throw is awesome. Never had any issues finding my gears while racing at Road Atlanta. No sloppiness at all. Huge thumbs up for the setup!

Ooops! I just noticed, that's NOT the same SSK that I bought/installed!!! I'd call Rob and speak with someone directly about that piece.

We have it in our E30 and love it. Ended up not using their DSSR because of the tranny/engine combo. I believe it's is supposed to transfer more noise or vibration but given the rest of the noise it's not an issue and vibration hasn't been an issue either.

I also use it in my E30 track car - excellent part, no issue with vibration whatsoever.

Ken

I run the Rogue shifter with delrin istead of rubber, no notchiness and super smooth.

I also use it in my E30 track car - excellent part, no issue with vibration whatsoever.

Ken

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Looks nice. I run the B&M race version, and it's been awsome. great feel, and no slop issues.

I'll be unveiling my "Jaffster race shifter assembly" shortly :) Requires a little bit of fabrication, but if you are in a Mod car where you sit farther back and would like the shifter relocated, this will fit the bill (no plans for any mass production). Its also great if you are slightly vertically challenged like myself lol I am just waiting for one last component to be machined, and it'll be good to go.

I had a Rogue unit in my E36 and loved it. When you go and drive other cars and go back to the BMW trans/shifter setup, its so damn smooth. Subaru, Audi/Vw, porsche, ferrari,etc...I have yet to drive any of those (including racecars) that are as easy to drive...well the Ferrari F1/Challenge trans is pretty easy since you just flip a paddle lol

Steve- Will yours work for the stock location too? Any jaffster.com cad pics yet?

Well, it would not apply for a stock location. The intent of the assembly is to relocate the shifter so I can reach it :)

I would just give Rogue a call, and ask for the shifter kit with the delrin insert. It'll add vibration but is more 'racey' lol

My shifter is using a couple Rogue component if that makes a difference.

Does anyone know if the pictured race shifter is available for the Z3M?

I have this shifter on my SE30 car and I am happy with it. There really is not a lot of difference in the length of shift throw compared to stock but it is slightly improved. The length of the shifter itself seems longer but that is probably only because I removed the shifter boot and now it is fully exposed.

I also replaced the carrier bushing with a UUC delrin and replaced the plastic cup with a stock piece as well as the washers in the DSSR. These changes removed most of the slop in the shifter and really tighten it up.

I have this shifter on my SE30 car and I am happy with it. There really is not a lot of difference in the length of shift throw compared to stock but it is slightly improved.

Go measure 3rd to 4th gear at the top of the shift knob... you should come up with 100mm, or about 4". Your original shifter gave you 135mm, or about 5.25".

The length of the shifter itself seems longer but that is probably only because I removed the shifter boot and now it is fully exposed.

I think that's a visual trick for the reasons you explained... actual height should be within 5mm of the original E30 shifter.

I have one, combined with UUC DSSR and a Grp A type chassis mount.
Its fantastic.
Feels very direct, no slop, no nothing. Feels like a proper race shifter.
Cheers
jimmy p

Bringing this thread back to life....

Been interested in this shift lever for a while and recently I was able to get a feel for it in an e30 and loved it.

While the UUC site lists e36 fitments, it does not list one for e36 M3's.

Has anyone installed this part into an e36 M3?

We use B&M shifters here, when you put them on the bench with the other available products, it's immediately apparent the quality differences.

James Posig
JMT TrackCars
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We use B&M shifters here, when you put them on the bench with the other available products, it's immediately apparent the quality differences.

James Posig
JMT TrackCars
#231 GTS 2
The problem with B&Ms is that installing them is difficult, and it can be hard to tell if the o-rings that hold them in are in place.

At least that was my experience. Mine went in the trash can after it fell out of the carrier on track. Having to remember to push down to shift was annoying.

Bringing this thread back to life....

Been interested in this shift lever for a while and recently I was able to get a feel for it in an e30 and loved it.

While the UUC site lists e36 fitments, it does not list one for e36 M3's.

Has anyone installed this part into an e36 M3?

I would like one of these for the M3 as well. I don't care about shorter shifting, I just something robust, with little to no moving parts, and can take the abuse.

We use B&M shifters here, when you put them on the bench with the other available products, it's immediately apparent the quality differences.

James Posig
JMT TrackCars
#231 GTS 2

I've got boxes and boxes of broken B&Ms here that we get in on trade... you're right, the quality difference is definitely apparent. :lol

- Rob

I would like one of these for the M3 as well. I don't care about shorter shifting, I just something robust, with little to no moving parts, and can take the abuse.

You can install the UUC Race Shifter in the E36 M3, but due to the dimensional differences between the 325 and M3 shifter components, the result is a "sorta-short shifter" with only a small reduction, roughly 8% or so.

It will provide what you're looking for, a very robust shifter unit with minimal moving parts that will also be much more precise than the OE shifter.

- Rob

Does anyone know if the pictured race shifter is available for the Z3M?

No, sorry, it is not. And unlike my post above regarding the M3, you would not want to put it in the Z3M... the shifter position would be offset, too far to the left and back. We recommend you use our regular Evo3 shifter for the Z3M, part number USMZE.

- Rob

I got some parts in for my shifter today, I just have to fabricate the sheet metal base mount: http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=905995

I am using the UUC double shear selector rod (from a 540 I think?)

wish i could use any short shifter....not legal in scca. :(

wish i could use any short shifter....not legal in scca. :(

We do offer a "stock throw" version of our Evo3 for the E36 M3, designed specifically for people that want all the precision of the Evo3 technology, but no shift reduction.

If there is enough interest, we could do the same for other models.

- Rob

go with the UUC shifter and you will be a very happy customer! it's extremely precise and those guys have done a very nice job with the design and easy installation. we ran B&M's in our Grand Am car and although they never broke, the precision was not as good as the UUC product and i think the price is a little better w/ UUC as well. hope this helps.

wish i could use any short shifter....not legal in scca. :(

Yet you always see ITS cars for sale with short shifters installed. I think a friend mentioned to me that below the pivot you're not allowed to modify the length of the attachment point is that correct? I'm assuming you're not allowed to raise the pivot either which throws out using most of the aftermarket stuff as well. I assume that's why Rob says 'stock throw' as in both those items are left unchanged?

BTW what breaks on B&Ms that's what I was planning on using and I've been hanging on to one for years waiting til that day when it is a serious track car. If I decide to ditch it I was going to go with one of those Grp A replica type shifters like the AKG one. I believe those are IP/GTS3 legal, not that I care anyway. :stickoutt

Carlos.

Yet you always see ITS cars for sale with short shifters installed. I think a friend mentioned to me that below the pivot you're not allowed to modify the length of the attachment point is that correct? I'm assuming you're not allowed to raise the pivot either which throws out using most of the aftermarket stuff as well. I assume that's why Rob says 'stock throw' as in both those items are left unchanged?

BTW what breaks on B&Ms that's what I was planning on using and I've been hanging on to one for years waiting til that day when it is a serious track car. If I decide to ditch it I was going to go with one of those Grp A replica type shifters like the AKG one. I believe those are IP/GTS3 legal, not that I care anyway. :stickoutt

Carlos.
My issue with the B&M shifters is that they don't have any sort of positive lock to the shifter arm. They're just a press fit with o-rings. When I added the jaffster delrin knob, the shifter fell out in the middle of a race.

My issue with the B&M shifters is that they don't have any sort of positive lock to the shifter arm. They're just a press fit with o-rings. When I added the jaffster delrin knob, the shifter fell out in the middle of a race.

Hmmmm.....I had one in my former CM car and I don't recall this. The shift lever itself is held into the aluminum cup via spring clips. Is it the cup that is pressed into the carrier then? I really don't recall. I never had any problems with mine but admittedly I only used it for about 5 weekends before the car was sold.

Hmmmm.....I had one in my former CM car and I don't recall this. The shift lever itself is held into the aluminum cup via spring clips. Is it the cup that is pressed into the carrier then? I really don't recall. I never had any problems with mine but admittedly I only used it for about 5 weekends before the car was sold.
That's correct, the cup is pressed into the carrier.

I run 100% stock. They never break, transmissions last, no missed shifts and no driver complaints. I also run stock motor/trans mounts, flywheel, clutch and pressure plate. For some reason, the stock BMW stuff works for me. The only thing I have that's not correct, is the stock 5 speed shift knob, even though the car has a 6 speed in it. Nothing a label maker can't solve.

I have installed at least 30 B&M shifters over the last 7 years and not one failure and nothing but praise from the clients. If your shifter "fell out", it would have to be installer error or another part failed.

James Posig
JMT TrackCars
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I run 100% stock. They never break, transmissions last, no missed shifts and no driver complaints. I also run stock motor/trans mounts, flywheel, clutch and pressure plate. For some reason, the stock BMW stuff works for me. The only thing I have that's not correct, is the stock 5 speed shift knob, even though the car has a 6 speed in it. Nothing a label maker can't solve.

Hey Jonathan,

You don't run a LTW flywheel or HD drivetrain parts? Is that not allowed in the rules or is that by choice? Just curious as it seems some of those things would be a performance improvement in class based racing where things are tight.

Cheers.

I have installed at least 30 B&M shifters over the last 7 years and not one failure and nothing but praise from the clients. If your shifter "fell out", it would have to be installer error or another part failed.

James Posig
JMT TrackCars
#231 GTS 2
With those stupid o-rings, installer error is extremely easy so I wouldn't be too shocked if that was the case. The obviously knew there were problems with the O-rings, given that they provided extras in the packaging.

Mostly, I think it was the extra leverage of the jaffster knob that did mine in.

Hey Jonathan,

You don't run a LTW flywheel or HD drivetrain parts? Is that not allowed in the rules or is that by choice? Just curious as it seems some of those things would be a performance improvement in class based racing where things are tight.

Cheers.

Just look at the rules and you'll see that I can only run a flywheel that's 20% lighter than stock (plus it has to be steel). I can do that but the problem is that the engine will grenade itself if you run a 3.0 motor with a LTW flywheel. Say what you want, but I have spent plenty of money to learn that lesson. As soon as someone gets the motion ratio correct on an aftermarket pressure plate (before I get one made for myself) then I'll try one out. The stock one works just fine for me at the moment.

As for the shifter, I've replaced at least 20 aftermarket shifters over the last 5 years (I always keep the stock one as a spare). Every one of them broke. For some strange reason, I've never had a factory shifter break. When an afermarket shifter breaks it happens at the worst time (like in the middle of a 3hr race).

I'm tired of spending money on aftermarket shifters that break and then listen to the manufacturer blame me on the failure (this is the same thing that has happened with the non-factory pressure plates and clutches). I guess I only know how to properly install factory BMW parts. As for the aftermarket stuff, just consider me as the village idiot.

I have installed at least 30 B&M shifters over the last 7 years and not one failure and nothing but praise from the clients. If your shifter "fell out", it would have to be installer error or another part failed.

James Posig
JMT TrackCars
#231 GTS 2

I think all 30 of those came back here without telling you. :D

They don't "fall out"... their pivot cup actually breaks, the aluminum is insufficient for the forces involved. Second point of failure is the bushing within the cup. Both parts break, resulting in a sloppy shifter that won't stay installed. If I were so inclined, I could fix the design for them, wouldn't be the first time for a diagnosis/correction of someone else's problem.

- Rob

I've got Ronald at Autosolutions ginning up a custom rig for me. A bit taller than stock, a little less rake, extremely short shift, reduced tolerances (according to Ron, reducing the gaps makes it a b1tch until it breaks in, at which point it's really, really nice).

If you're going to spend the money, might as well get precisely what YOU want. Shifter feel is a very personal thing...involves a lot of intuitive motion...so getting one that is just what you want is pretty helpful.

I've got Ronald at Autosolutions ginning up a custom rig for me. A bit taller than stock, a little less rake, extremely short shift, reduced tolerances (according to Ron, reducing the gaps makes it a b1tch until it breaks in, at which point it's really, really nice).

Not an issue with an all-bearing design like Evo3. :D

If you're going to spend the money, might as well get precisely what YOU want. Shifter feel is a very personal thing...involves a lot of intuitive motion...so getting one that is just what you want is pretty helpful.

I'm glad you brought that up! UUC has an underpublicized "Custom Program" where we can do all sorts of different changes including custom shift reduction, angle, height, etc. Almost any aspect of change at no additional charge (some radical changes may have a charge, please call to discuss your needs).