I've been considering a PC 7424 lately and have been reading everything I can find on detailing. I am getting ready to pull the trigger on this kit ...

http://www.autogeek.net/menzerna-po...-shine-kit.html (http://www.autogeek.net/menzerna-porter-cable-intensive-shine-kit.html)

should I consider something else? If so, why? What? Input and suggestions are appreciated.

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subscribed. i was actually looking at the same kit today

I forgot to mention that I already have Klasse AIO andSG. I'm a total beginner when it comes to serious detailing ...my limited experience in the past was with a 10" buffer from WalMart and some products from Auto Zone ...disappointing to say the least. ANY advice is appreciated.

thanks again,

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Personally I would get UDM with this kit:
http://www.autogeek.net/menzerna-ultimate-detailing-machine-kit-1.html

Your first kit offers a great value for the 250, and add another 15 and you get the extra long power cord.
Add a few more dollars and you get the more powerful version, the UDM (if memory serves, with a longer power cord too).
If you can, swing for the UDM kit, that way, you'll never have any doubts about whether you should have opted for the more powerful version, you'll already be using it.
My local tool dealer gave me some good advice years ago. I was considering either a 5hp or a 8hp wood chipper. The dealer said clients always come back and thank him for recommending the 8hp instead of the 5 hp model. They never came back and did the reverse.
I know the situation isn't the same, but guys like power. I'll second Wolfstrong's idea.
-John C.

Can to much "power" simply too much for a first timer? I don't want to learn with something that may be out of my league on my paint.

None of the DA's can actually be too powerful.. They cannot build up enough heat to cause any major problems. So you will be fine with the UDM.. But you can't go wrong with either one... Happy Detailing.....

I started with the UDM, having zero experience. No worries. I've never used the PC, but my understanding is that it bogs down more easily than the UDM.

On a side note, have any of you UDM users received the upgraded power switch?

Edit: Oops, answered my own question. If you need the switch update, go here:

http://www.ultimatedetailingmachine.com/udm-upd1.html

While it is technically possible to burn through paint (and it has been done) you have to lean on it like a gorilla and let it stay in the same place an impossibly long time to happen.

While it is quite unlikely that you'll burn through paint, there are other ways you can destroy your paint with a PC or UDM. If you don't keep your pads clean, use too small a pad for your backing plate, if you experience foam pad or backing plate failure you can screw your paint quick, fast and in a hurry.

With the more powerful UDM especially, make sure you use a high quality pad and clean the pad according to the manufacturer directions. Too much soap or hot water could weaken the glue that holds the velcro to the back of the pad making failure of the pad much more likely.

While it is technically possible to burn through paint (and it has been done) you have to lean on it like a gorilla and let it stay in the same place an impossibly long time to happen.

While it is quite unlikely that you'll burn through paint, there are other ways you can destroy your paint with a PC or UDM. If you don't keep your pads clean, use too small a pad for your backing plate, if you experience foam pad or backing plate failure you can screw your paint quick, fast and in a hurry.

With the more powerful UDM especially, make sure you use a high quality pad and clean the pad according to the manufacturer directions. Too much soap or hot water could weaken the glue that holds the velcro to the back of the pad making failure of the pad much more likely.

great advice - thanks!