HELP!

I think I just got sucked into a bad deal. I just placed an order for a set of 19" Chrome Parallel rims. The sizes are 19*8.0 in the front, and 19*9.5 in the rear. I thought I got a deal at 1200.00 for the set but when I asked TireRack for rubber the guy said that I'd need to do "fender work" to get the 19*9.5 to fit in the back. Is this true?? The guy that's selling the rims says they'll fit but he's probably just looking for the order. Is there anyone on this forum who has seen, heard, or owns a E36 with 19's on it?? If so, please help. It's not too late to back out, but it will be soon.

THX

should have posted this in the other thread...your going to need fender work 99.9 percent sure like listerine ;\

front should be OK, but i am ALMOST CERTAIN that you will need to roll the rear.

can you even roll them that much?? 9.5's will be running 265's at least....I couldn't even fit 255's under my back with lowering springs

you will need to flare out the rears a lot, like a fender flare, widest youd want on a e36 in the rear is a 19x8.5

start off by rolling the fenders. if they don't fit then you need a wide body kit what is not a bad think ;)

will 18x8.5's fit a E36?

Originally posted by slickav
will 18x8.5's fit a E36?


YES

a 19x9.5" rim wont fit in the rear of an E36.. thats just too wide including the tire size needed to fill that rim. And fender work isnt cheap at all.. rolling the lip only clears a few mm's. And thats only if ur rubbing the lip like my rear rubs the inner fender and clears the lip just fine.

Hey Joey.. the car is looking great! Especially for a 93' 325. :) I remember when u first got the car and u had all that auto tranny problems! HAHA. Cant wait to see the finished product after u get ur rims on to fill that widebody!

Originally posted by Stylin


Hey Joey.. the car is looking great! Especially for a 93' 325. :) I remember when u first got the car and u had all that auto tranny problems! HAHA. Cant wait to see the finished product after u get ur rims on to fill that widebody!

haha damn auto tranny, weve both come a far way :D

My friend has 19" BBS CH's with 265/35's on the rear of his e36 M3 with no rubbing. Stack suspension, no rolling of the fenders. Don't ask me why, buy it only rubs with 4 people in the car over bumps. :dunno

19x9 can fit with 265 on the rear, but the offset is a 42 while if you ran a 19x8 you can be in the high 30 offsets like 38.
a 9.5 could still work if the offset can be a 45... but that is pushing it. the 19x9 was already extreme in my opinion.
eric

Cool. GOOD LOOKING!! I'll call 'em and cancel the order. I knew he was jerking me. So where can a see some pics of some E36's with the 18's ???? Anyone got any pics of some E36's with the staggered setup??

Thanks again y'all!!

What size are those rims on the white bimmer below? Are those 18's or 19's? What's the width? Not trying to be a pain but I might as well start looking at pics so I know what I'm getting into, u know?

thx-

Originally posted by eglee13
19x9 can fit with 265 on the rear, but the offset is a 42 while if you ran a 19x8 you can be in the high 30 offsets like 38.
a 9.5 could still work if the offset can be a 45... but that is pushing it. the 19x9 was already extreme in my opinion.
eric

My convertible has 18x9.5 in the back and 18x8.5 at the front...
They are M5 rims... I did roll the back, but the front is the same... got some pics for ya!!

http://home.wanadoo.nl/~a.l.thomas/325iC.jpg

http://home.wanadoo.nl/~a.l.thomas/My325ICabrio2.JPG

http://home.wanadoo.nl/~a.l.thomas/My325iCabrio.JPG

http://home.wanadoo.nl/~a.l.thomas/pretty.JPG

It worked fine...

Ciao,

YT

19x9.5 isnt going to work.. 18x9.5 can do. 19x9 is about the safest i would go.

mine are 19x8 all around...
that hardtop convert is so nice... love the top

mine are 19x8.5 BTW.

Aww guys, you killin me here wit the pics. Very, very sexy rides. Man, the 19's don't look that different from 18's. It's hard to tell the difference. For the money maybe I should just put the 18's on it, and save a few hundred on the tires and wheels. I could still lower it with 18's right. All these whips above are lowered right? So what are y'all using for springs??

Originally posted by Stylin
mine are 19x8.5 BTW.

envious, i wish i went a little wider in the rear... hahah
i am on just H&R sport springs and Bilstien shocks.

18s will look fine and your right, you will save money on tires.

So you are saying that you had to do some work to get the 9.5's to fit out back even though they are 18's??


Originally posted by YT ///M3
My convertible has 18x9.5 in the back and 18x8.5 at the front...
They are M5 rims... I did roll the back, but the front is the same... got some pics for ya!!


It worked fine...

Ciao,

YT

OK, I'll go with 18's but how wide should I go. From what you guys are saying, it looks like I can't go any wider than 9.0, right. I found a set of 18*9.0 in the M5 rim (just like the gorgeous Blue vert above) in a "black ice" kind of finish (not chrome though) for about 1300.00 w/Nitto 555 rubber. The thing is that I did want to go with the staggered look....but the package price is hard to argue with. I should ask them if they carry the 18*9.0's for the back. I found a set of H&R's o sale for about 225.00......not bad. So for around 1500.00 I could drop her and put the 18's on, but without the staggered look that I really want :-( Here's another question for y'all. Does the staggered look really make a difference? And was it worth it for the money spent (Based on your experience)?

thx again!

Originally posted by eglee13
envious, i wish i went a little wider in the rear... hahah
i am on just H&R sport springs and Bilstien shocks.

18s will look fine and your right, you will save money on tires. :95

how wide depends on how much work you want to do to fit the wheel. a 8 or 8.5 is safe if the offset is correct.
as for staggered, I didnt go with it b/c I wanted to rotate tires. But now, I wished I had gotten staggared and am actually trying to sell 2 of these wheels so I can get some x9 for the rear and a 265 tire. i just wanted the bigger lip for the rear and a wider stance. do i regret it. not really, but if i can get that bigger tire in the rear, i will be stoked.

19 x 9.5" is a massive rim for an E36...

and yes, u can get them to fit!

my friend (nicot on these boards) runs a 19 x 9.5" et43 rear wheel on his E36 M3 convertible with 235/35 Continentals..

with a 43mm offset they dont rub on the guards, only problem is that they will occasionally rub up against his muffler which is no big deal as the muffler can be adjusted to sit differently

eglee13

How do you like the lowering springs you bought?? Would you get them again?

stang;
yeah i like the ride on the springs. i have been a coilover person in the past thinking i would raise and lower as i needed, but i found out that i NEVER would adjust it...hahahand the fact that i didnt want to spend alot of money for coilver kits.

I wish the H&R Sport springs sat lower in front, but it has a nice stance so i am happy. if you want to go lower the H&R Race would be an option.

Ok thanks. I need to think about how low I want to go. OK, here's what I'm getting (but it's not too late to change as the order isn't going out until Wed)

I got a set of M5 hyper Black rims 18.85 all the way around with a 225/40 Mitto 555 Extreme. How's that sound?? Did I do a good job or will it look like crap?

I wanted to go staggered but they weren't available as a package. Please be honest b/c I don't want to be stuck with garbage. But for 1300.00, I thought it was a good deal. In case you forgot, my ride is a 4-door 98 328i. Let me know what you think about the rims size and the tire size, and if I should go larger or smaller with the rubber.

what color is your car?
i think black m5 wheel will give it an agressive look.
was 8.5 the only size ? cause 225 is kinda a small tire for a 8.5 width. the tires will work but instead of the tire being upright and straight at the sidewalls, it might have a curve to it.

It's red. 8.5 is the only size with this company that's offering the package, but I guess I could go elsewhere if I had to. Not sure of the exact name for the color but if you do let me know. thx. So what size do you think I should go with for the most aggressive look? What would you go with? Do you think I'm making a good decision? Here's the pic.

It's red. 8.5 is the only size with this company that's offering the package, but I guess I could go elsewhere if I had to. Not sure of the exact name for the color but if you do let me know. thx. So what size do you think I should go with for the most aggressive look? What would you go with? Do you think I'm making a good decision? Here's the pic. I like the look of the blue vert. What size tires to you think he's running?

File was too big. Here it is. Let me know what you think. I can't stand how it looks :-(

i would run a search if you like the rims (it is a good deal) then just get them with 235 rubber all around. i think it will give you some security as you might have some tire to protect the lip of the wheel.
i think with the drop and those black wheels it should look pretty sick. i am running 235 on 19s so i am assuming 235 on 18s should be fine. double check on that and double check on the offset.
eric

I have 19x9.5 with et43 on H&R C/O no rubbing on the fender and I didnt roll but I have probs with rubbing inner with the muffler though lucky I didnt go 265's.

stick to 19x9 or 19x8.5 with et 38.

http://members.optushome.com.au/nicot/ratedm20.jpg

Guys,

the dude that I was going to get the 19.5's from emailed me and I pasted the message below. I have the order in for the Black M5 rims 18.5's all the way around on 225/40 rubber, but I'm thinking of asking for 235 rubber before they send the rims tomorrow...I better call em quick. Don't think I'm going to go with the 19's due to the possible problems (Have enough headaches with my Mustang :-). Either way, this is what the other guy is trying to say about the M-parallel 19's!

I did some more research for you, and have all the answers.
By the way, we have sold wheels to E36 owners and they put 19 X 9.5's on the rear and did not have any problem.
With this particular model of car, here is the deal, I spoke with the manufacturer, and well as OZ.
With 9.5" wheels on the rear, it's really marginal, we are talking hundreds of an inch difference, either way.
If you put 9.5 inch wheels on the rear, and if you chose a tire that had a very straight sidewall, with basically no curve to it, you would be fine.
The other option is for you to choose the tires you really want, and any tire shop can modify the lip in less than 1/2 hour. It looks perfect and no one would ever be able to tell the car was modifed by looking at it. It is not a hack job and they have a special tool that gently "rolls" the lip from an "L" shape to a "V" shape.
It would cost you about $30-$40 to have it done.
If you don't want to do that, then the other option is to put 19 X 8 wheels all the way around, and you would have no problem whatsoever, you could still put a fairly wide tire on the back and there would be almost not difference in appearance of your vehicle. There is no real difference in the 9.5 inch versus the 8 inch rims, as far as how deep the spokes are from the outside of the rim.
We pay the same amount for 8" rims as we do for 9.5" rims so we could sell you a complete set of 19's in the same size if you wish.
Of course, we will guarantee the fact that they will fit, in writing.
So you have 3 options here to choose from.

my friend (nicot on these boards) runs a 19 x 9.5" et43 rear wheel on his E36 M3 convertible with 235/35 Continentals..


That's a ridiculously small tire on that width rim. I'd think a 255 would be about the smallest you'd want to go on a 9.5" rim, and you could probably put a 275 on there if you wanted wide tires(and they fit, which they won't on an E36).

my opinion in terms of width... is to just get a 18x8 or 19x8 if you dont want to deal with the headaches. you can run a 235 tire on a 8in wide rim with no problem. if you start going into a 9.5 then i really would suggest going with a 255 minimal like def said. to put a 235 on a 9.5 is not impossible, but there is no way that sidewall is straight. that is stretching a tire out.
since the deal is for an 8.5 i dont think it is going to be much of an issue as long is the offset is around a 40-43. you will be safe from rubbing and can still use a 235 tire all around.

also the rolling the lip is a very effective way of creating more space. so you could still get this deal and if it rubs a little, roll the lip.

Thanks everyone. Much appreciated. Here's the deal. I asked about going to the 235/40's on the 18*8.5 package. and the guy from the wheel exchange told me that that's not a problemfrom the their standpoint b/c they have the rubber in stock. However, he had them on his E36 with an 18*5 rim and he told me "they will rub up against the front strut during hard decline/incline cornering. So he left the final decision to me. Based on his expereince I stayed with the 18*8.5 Black M5 rims with the 225/40 rubber. They will be here in less than a week. Much thanks to eglee13 and everyone else who took the time to offer their opinions. I'll post some pics soon. Still undecided on the H&S lowering kit as I've been told that they destroy the ride quality. Eglee13, any opinions on this?

destroys your ride? i dont know about that.
my personal opinion, it really depends on what you want. i have owned a super slammed honda civic, a slammed accord, and a slammed TL. this is conservative to me. i have always been on ground control coilovers and those sucked big time too harsh for street driving. so H&R Springs were really really nice to me. I think once you get the rims, you will want to lower it... as to how much that will be on you. Do you have a family? is this a commuter car? will you autocross or track it? what do you want out of it. Those are questions you need to look at.

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i miss that car sometimes, but that ride sucked bad

I race my Mustang so I guess this is kind of the family car. But I'd still like to drop it 1.3" with the H&S springs. What year is that Accord...it looks really new?

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