Where to begin... I've been in some fast cars in my life time, but nothing has really compared to this. AA's Stage III S/C for the E46 is not even in the same league as these kits and I speak from having driven and rode in those cars. E60 M5? It's fast, but I would bet my house this car would WALK away from it on a highway. The new M3 is going to be a joke in terms of power compared to this beast. But more important, the quality and driveability of this kit is amazing. HPF has simply done an amazing job. They've made me a believer and I can not wait for their E39 M5 Turbo Kit :devillook

Now onto the videos... I wanted to meet up with Rob earlier but when I was washing my car, I found that my rear tires were SHOT! So after calling around to like 20 places, I found a local place that had some rear tires for my car and 3 hours later + 750 bucks, I had some new KDW's :stickoutt So worth it to get the opportuning to run with this car. Youtube only for now.. the downloadable version will be up on nwbmwclub.com later tonight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9n58H2j1uo

Old tires :eyecrazy

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Sweet video James. Good work!
-Ted

PS-
What's with the Idaho plate on your M5?

Sweet video James. Good work!
-Ted

PS-
What's with the Idaho plate on your M5?

Maybe I'm from Idaho :devillook naw, I register my car there because of no emission's haha

Cool video!

Thanks for giving us a good judgement of how fast this thing is to a E39 M5!

But after spending 16k on a turbo kit I would think there would be different wheels on the M3 but thats me.

Cool video!

Thanks for giving us a good judgement of how fast this thing is to a E39 M5!

But after spending 16k on a turbo kit I would think there would be different wheels on the M3 but thats me.

If you have a 600whp car, do what you want with your car :rofl throw a wing on it, big old banners and neon for all I care :rofl

Was that pump gas tune? It didn't seem terribly fast. Maybe because we're comparing it to a 330whp M5 ?

I will say-- HPF probably has the best turbo package offered on the market right now. They cover all your bases, and it really shows. Nice job HPF.

Was that pump gas tune? It didn't seem terribly fast. Maybe because we're comparing it to a 330whp M5 ?

I will say-- HPF probably has the best turbo package offered on the market right now. They cover all your bases, and it really shows. Nice job HPF.

Did you actually watch the video? Are you able to read? :rofl The first couple of pulls were pump and then the last ones were all race gas...

Sorry its late and I don't feel like reading books.

Sorry its late and I don't feel like reading books.

No.. it was in the video itself :rofl

nice vid and pics !

love how your M5 looks :cool

No.. it was in the video itself :rofl

I guess I wasn't really into it? :dunno

I guess I wasn't really into it? :dunno

that's pretty evident :rofl Get some sleep bro...

Ok thanks Mom. Goodnight.

Ok thanks Mom. Goodnight.

:rofl someone is grouchy...

WOW is all i have to say.

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j286/ASSMAN420/ballinmoney.gif

one day

James, good footage and good pictures! The HPF car is pretty damn fast, I want to see what a TTS2 e3 M3 can do to it...

The car seemed really nice on pump gas. Not absurdly fast..but impressive.

On race gas, however, that car is QUICK (that 60-130 run was in a hurry). :cool

The car seemed really nice on pump gas. Not absurdly fast..but impressive.

On race gas, however, that car is QUICK (that 60-130 run was in a hurry). :cool

Comparing the pump gas pulls to AA's S3 Superchargers, it's no comparision... the HPF car would DESTROY an AA SCed car..

Fast, no doubt. But honestly, I would have expected faster, given the dyno numbers.

My mechanic in GA has a 750 bhp E38...which gets 60-120 a good deal quicker than that M3.

Very nice camera work James! A few less trucks would've been nice, but all in all I think it turned out great. Having the tires totally breaking loose at 70mph is an interesting feeling, but I think I like it. I owe you a cold one for making that vid, and i'm always up for more!

Fast, no doubt. But honestly, I would have expected faster, given the dyno numbers.

My mechanic in GA has a 750 bhp E38...which gets 60-120 a good deal quicker than that M3.

That was actually 60-140, perhaps I didn't speak clearly enough on the vid. Congrats to your mechanic, though.

Rob, thanks again for the ride. Bad ass car!

man that must be sick to ride in if it pulls hard on a M5 nice vid

HPF's kit is really looking to be a nice set up. I understand its all bolt with no mods to the motor. Has anyone put this set up on a built motor? What kind of #'s are coming out of it before and after modding?

Damn james great work with the video. Must of been one hell of a day. I saw the hpf in person at Formula D but didn't get a chance to ride in it

Props to HPF

man that must be sick to ride in if it pulls hard on a M5 nice vid
Any tubo BMW is going to put gap on a heavy M5 petty briskly.

Nice vid!

What this talk about a turbo for the E39 M5? How do I get more info on this?

I see that the kit costs $16k...would you mind sharing how much install labor typically runs?

Nice video!

Very nice camera work James! A few less trucks would've been nice, but all in all I think it turned out great. Having the tires totally breaking loose at 70mph is an interesting feeling, but I think I like it. I owe you a cold one for making that vid, and i'm always up for more!

No.. I owe you for letting me ride in that beast :redspot

man that must be sick to ride in if it pulls hard on a M5 nice vid

you have no idea... no idea :buttrock

Any tubo BMW is going to put gap on a heavy M5 petty briskly.

uhh not really.. but any turbo BMW putting down that much power will.

HPF's kit is really looking to be a nice set up. I understand its all bolt with no mods to the motor. Has anyone put this set up on a built motor? What kind of #'s are coming out of it before and after modding?

Rob and I were talking and he said that HPF was talking about a S3 kit with a fully built motor. And I think these kits are making 420+rwhp on pump which is like 8.5psi? and 600+rwhp on race gas and 13psi?

Damn james great work with the video. Must of been one hell of a day. I saw the hpf in person at Formula D but didn't get a chance to ride in it

Props to HPF

Thanks Mick :buttrock

Nice vid!

What this talk about a turbo for the E39 M5? How do I get more info on this?

Contact HPF... this has been a rumor for months now but I think with the success of this kit, hopefully they will make it happen and I'll be the first one on the waiting list :buttrock

wow if we wanted to talk about corvettes or supras we would go on to their forum I think everyone here knows that there is always going to be someone faster its just nice to see a 750 crank horse power inline six on stock internals.

wow if we wanted to talk about corvettes or supras we would go on to their forum I think everyone here knows that there is always going to be someone faster its just nice to see a 750 crank horse power inline six on stock internals.

I completely agree, it's a fantastic milestone in turbo BMW innovation no doubt about that. It's also a very fast car, but when this fanboy's first sentence is about being in lots of fast cars and nothing compares to this then it raises some eyebrows. 600rwhp on race gas is not the end of all things especially when you're talking about straight line speed, there are 2-3 turbo S2000's making that kind of power from a 4 cyl on pump.

I completely agree, it's a fantastic milestone in turbo BMW innovation no doubt about that. It's also a very fast car, but when this fanboy's first sentence is about being in lots of fast cars and nothing compares to this then it raises some eyebrows. 600rwhp is not the end of all things especially when you're talking about straight line speed.
not a end all yes but keep in mind this is just a stage one :devillook. most cars with only a stage one dont even compare to it

not a end all yes but keep in mind this is just a stage one :devillook. most cars with only a stage one dont even compare to it

Agreed, I can't wait to see the full blown crazy stage 3. Then I bet it will run with almost anything like the original poster was advertising the stage 1.

Good shit James. Videos never truly xpress how quickly a car is moving. That shit is fast yo.

Thanks to the moderators for keeping this forum civil.

I bet the car is fun to drive.. and 9 secs from 60 to 140 should be fast enough to race some fast cars but the M5 is not one of those:nono. Maybe something along the lines of a moded C5Zo6 or a C6Zo6. my .02

Great video guys, and thanks for the props. Watching videos like this makes it all worthwhile. :)

Take care,
Chris.

Rob, thanks again for the ride. Bad ass car!

Anytime man, I look forward to meeting up with the rest of the pimps in the club.
Cool video!

Thanks for giving us a good judgement of how fast this thing is to a E39 M5!

But after spending 16k on a turbo kit I would think there would be different wheels on the M3 but thats me.

Black wheels seem to be the in thing, but i'm not totally into it. I think black on black looks good, James' M5 looks tight with black wheels, but I like wheels that really pop. That's the great thing about wheels....there's a million to choose from to suit individual personalities.
HPF's kit is really looking to be a nice set up. I understand its all bolt with no mods to the motor. Has anyone put this set up on a built motor? What kind of #'s are coming out of it before and after modding?

HPF are talking about a stg 3 kit that involves lower compression pistons with a target of 900whp. I assume that to be on race fuel.
Nice vid!

What this talk about a turbo for the E39 M5? How do I get more info on this?

I don't think they have one yet, but you can contact David at HPF for info.
I see that the kit costs $16k...would you mind sharing how much install labor typically runs?

Again, David is the man to talk to. Also, keep in mind Oregon has no sales tax, which is a huge bonus when talking about this amount of money.
I bet the car is fun to drive.. and 9 secs from 60 to 140 should be fast enough to race some fast cars but the M5 is not one of those. Maybe something along the lines of a moded C5Zo6 or a C6Zo6. my .02
The purpose of this video was to demonstate the power of a daily driver with the HPF turbo kit, not as a competition. It also demonstates the reactions of first time passengers, which 10 times of of 10 results in profanity. Gimme time, i'll make a nun cuss like a truck driver!

Great video guys, and thanks for the props. Watching videos like this makes it all worthwhile.

Take care,
Chris.
I LOVE THIS FREAKIN CAR!

Great video, thanks for sharing.

Comparing the pump gas pulls to AA's S3 Superchargers, it's no comparision... the HPF car would DESTROY an AA SCed car..

I have to disagree with that. Plenty of SC cars have made good power. I made 503rwhp on 100 oct with my supercharger kit. Now if you want to talk Race gas HPF mode, then correct no AA sc car will run with it, unless it squeezes nitrous. :devillook

not a end all yes but keep in mind this is just a stage one :devillook. most cars with only a stage one dont even compare to it

I doubt those stg1 kits cost 16k as well.

Not bad, thanks for the video. Looks like it could almost hang with me. ;)

For reference, here's a video of my car on 91 octane vs. an E39 M5 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6722984853953013525).

Not bad, thanks for the video. Looks like it could almost hang with me. ;)

For reference, here's a video of my car on 91 octane vs. an E39 M5 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6722984853953013525).

I was waiting for you to post this to put things in perspective.

Mr blond was right about most any turbo bmw pulling hard on a m5.

I have to disagree with that. Plenty of SC cars have made good power. I made 503rwhp on 100 oct with my supercharger kit. Now if you want to talk Race gas HPF mode, then correct no AA sc car will run with it, unless it squeezes nitrous. :devillook



I doubt those stg1 kits cost 16k as well.

Hey Taz.. last May I rode in a S3 SC E46 and I've gotta say, the lack of torque in the car makes me believe that this Stage I on pump gas would beat it :dunno But torque can be deceiving :stickoutt

I completely agree, it's a fantastic milestone in turbo BMW innovation no doubt about that. It's also a very fast car, but when this fanboy's first sentence is about being in lots of fast cars and nothing compares to this then it raises some eyebrows. 600rwhp on race gas is not the end of all things especially when you're talking about straight line speed, there are 2-3 turbo S2000's making that kind of power from a 4 cyl on pump.

Define fast then? Is 400rwhp not fast to you? What about 500rwhp? Still not fast? How about 600rwhp? We're talking about Super Car power levels there. Carrera GT is 600bhp is that not a fast car? I'm completely confused about your ideas of a fast car. Are there faster cars out there? Yes there are. I rode in a SCed SRT10 Viper that was making 850bhp and yeah, it was fast as hell but it had NO traction until 100mph. So as far as drivable cars, this is the fastest car I've been in to date and I've rode in new M5s, M6s and Z6Z06 Vette's.

Not bad, thanks for the video. Looks like it could almost hang with me. ;)

For reference, here's a video of my car on 91 octane vs. an E39 M5 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6722984853953013525).

Your car is incredible man :stickoutt That video still makes me smile..

I was waiting for you to post this to put things in perspective.

Mr blond was right about most any turbo bmw pulling hard on a m5.

If it has over 300whp it should pull on a M5 on the highway no doubt about that...

I have to state, this video's purpose was not to be a competitive one but to show off what this car can do against a moderatly quick M5...

Not bad, thanks for the video. Looks like it could almost hang with me. ;)

For reference, here's a video of my car on 91 octane vs. an E39 M5 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6722984853953013525).

I bet Cameron couldn't seat straight for a couple of days..LOL:rofl:

That was fast for a low boosted pump car.... I so want to race you once you get here, put me in your list:buttrock

I was waiting for you to post this to put things in perspective.

Mr blond was right about most any turbo bmw pulling hard on a m5.


:werd:

The purpose of this video was to demonstate the power of a daily driver with the HPF turbo kit, not as a competition. It also demonstates the reactions of first time passengers, which 10 times of of 10 results in profanity. Gimme time, i'll make a nun cuss like a truck driver!

Demonstrating the power of a car thru a video is a funny thing, like I said you will need more than an old M5 to deliver a message.

If I take you for a lat in my race car and get some profanity out of you that will not prove that my 200whp race car is fast, it will show that you GassMeter is off and needs some recalibration. ;)

Demonstrating the power of a car thru a video is a funny thing, like I said you will need more than an old M5 to deliver a message.

If I take you for a lat in my race car and get some profanity out of you that will not prove that my 200whp race car is fast, it will show that you GassMeter is off and needs some recalibration. ;)

Well what would you consider a fast car then ;) I don't think my M5 is really a "fast" car anymore, but it sure as hell isn't slow

Black wheels seem to be the in thing, but i'm not totally into it. I think black on black looks good, James' M5 looks tight with black wheels, but I like wheels that really pop. That's the great thing about wheels....there's a million to choose from to suit individual personalities.


Well I wasn't really trying to push for black wheels. It sorta dims down the lines of the car if in a darker color like yours. I was just noting on my Maya's them selfs. I would have thought of some Fiske or some other bad ass wheels on there.

I bet Cameron couldn't seat straight for a couple of days..LOL:rofl:

That was fast for a low boosted pump car.... I so want to race you once you get here, put me in your list:buttrock
He was OK with it, just made him want his car to be done though. :)

Keep in mind that my low boost setting is 18 psi.

And definitely, I need to change my HG though. I'm starting to get disappearing coolant and pressurizing of the cooling system. I got tired of 15-18 psi and tried to turn up the boost with the stock HG and stock bolts. I think it got mad at me. :) It's still my daily driver, it's fine under 10 psi. Over 10 psi it pressurizes the cooling system.

Demonstrating the power of a car thru a video is a funny thing, like I said you will need more than an old M5 to deliver a message.
Although you're right, it's a good baseline. A lot of people know how fast a stock E39 M5 is. Although it may not be considered fast for a modded car, it's a good baseline car.

Well what would you consider a fast car then ;) I don't think my M5 is really a "fast" car anymore, but it sure as hell isn't slow
We can fix that ya know. ;)

Well what would you consider a fast car then ;) I don't think my M5 is really a "fast" car anymore, but it sure as hell isn't slow

well the E39 M5 with 3792lbs on his back and 350whp (+-) is not on my list. Is a hella fun car to dive but not on my list. I think that leave us with ratio of 10.8.

anything with a ratio of 6-7 is fast....:devillook

He was OK with it, just made him want his car to be done though. :)

Keep in mind that my low boost setting is 18 psi.

And definitely, I need to change my HG though. I'm starting to get disappearing coolant and pressurizing of the cooling system. I got tired of 15-18 psi and tried to turn up the boost with the stock HG and stock bolts. I think it got mad at me. :) It's still my daily driver, it's fine under 10 psi. Over 10 psi it pressurizes the cooling system.


Although you're right, it's a good baseline. A lot of people know how fast a stock E39 M5 is. Although it may not be considered fast for a modded car, it's a good baseline car.


We can fix that ya know. ;)

Bummer...:(

18psi is low boost wow...

If you ever get your car fixed and I haven't blown my up yet, you can have a piece of mine. You know.... nothing serious here just another bimmer with 5.5 power to weight ratio.:rolleyes

sexy. what exhaust do you have? Your redline shift noise seems to sound a tad lower than what I'm used to hearing

def want a higher res version of that vid :)

Bummer...:(

18psi is low boost wow...

If you ever get your car fixed and I haven't blown my up yet, you can have a piece of mine. You know.... nothing serious here just another bimmer with 5.5 power to weight ratio.:rolleyes
Some of the local GA guys have volunteered to help me change it when I come out. And Jordan has volunteered the use of his place for it. :D So it'll get done when I come out there, and I plan on putting it back together to handle 29 psi on race gas, and of course my normal 18 psi on pump.

I'll post a new thread later tonight so I can stop polluting this thread. :)

Some of the local GA guys have volunteered to help me change it when I come out. And Jordan has volunteered the use of his place for it. :D So it'll get done when I come out there, and I plan on putting it back together to handle 29 psi on race gas, and of course my normal 18 psi on pump.

I'll post a new thread later tonight so I can stop polluting this thread. :)


Wow we have the same boost settings!

I think the thign her is that we all mean something different by "fast". to me pulling gently away from an M5 isn't "fast".

Don't get me wrong, I am a believer on the HPF kit. if I had an E46 M3 I would buy an HPF kit, it's just that nice and all the issues are sorted.

But fanboy mode is easily turned on when your experience with fast cars is limited. If you think an M5 is fast, then you're easily impressed.

I think the thign her is that we all mean something different by "fast". to me pulling gently away from an M5 isn't "fast".

Don't get me wrong, I am a believer on the HPF kit. if I had an E46 M3 I would buy an HPF kit, it's just that nice and all the issues are sorted.

But fanboy mode is easily turned on when your experience with fast cars is limited. If you think an M5 is fast, then you're easily impressed.

Gently pulling is about right.

yea if that 450-500 wheel hp was more like 750 at the ground and not the crank, the pulling would be quite different

I don't really see how that car is gently "pulling" away from me? Maybe I'm confused but it seemed like a slaughtering to me of course I was there live. Maybe gently pulling on pump gas, but when he gets traction on race gas, that thing pulls away like I was standing still :confused

And as far as my experience with "fast" cars I've been in quite a few cars including several 9 second cars, multiple 10 second cars and more. Is a 650rwhp MR2 not a fast car? How about a Carrera GT? Not a fast car? Maybe a 2900lbs 700whp Mcoupe is faster then this, but that doesn't make this not a "fast" car. I mean it ran a 11.4 at the strip... that's not exactly slow :rolleyes

I think everyone on this board has a disturbed skew of what is fast, yet I only see 2-3 guys on this board actually making 10 second passes :rolleyes

I don't really see how that car is gently "pulling" away from me? Maybe I'm confused but it seemed like a slaughtering to me. Maybe gently pulling on pump gas, but when he gets traction on race gas, that thing pulls away like I was standing still :confused
David, click on the link in my signature for my movies and then select the "Raima learns a lesson" video. That's slaughtering.

David, click on the link in my signature for my movies and then select the "Raima learns a lesson" video. That's slaughtering.

David? huh? Anyways, I'll watch and I was editing my post up to when you posted this..

David? huh? Anyways, I'll watch and I was editing my post up to when you posted this..
Oh sorry I misread your signature .. what's your name?

David, click on the link in my signature for my movies and then select the "Raima learns a lesson" video. That's slaughtering.

Wow, thats pretty staggering

Why so defensive? We like the HPF kit, its just that some don't think it pulled that hard on the M5.

Relax man, its just a car.

EDIT: Kenny- very nice vid. What song is that?

David, click on the link in my signature for my movies and then select the "Raima learns a lesson" video. That's slaughtering.
:thumbup:

Okay I watched that video and do you want me or anyone else to be impressed by your car beating what looks to be a terrible driver in a 318ti with a supercharger against a car that probably has 400whp more and an experienced racer? :rolleyes Don't get me wrong here man, but this isn't exactly comparing apples to apples here man. You only ran .2 quicker then Rob did in his heavier E46 M3.

Oh sorry I misread your signature .. what's your name?

James :stickoutt

maybe i clicked the wrong link, but i dont see anything running wild.

i do see a nice turbo e46 tho :thumbup:

Why so defensive? We like the HPF kit, its just that some don't think it pulled that hard on the M5.

Relax man, its just a car.

EDIT: Kenny- very nice vid. What song is that?

I'm honestly not defensive at all, but the mentallity of this board is a riot. It's not a fast car because it "gently" walked away from a M5. And I have no clue what a fast car is supposively. That's the mind set here and it makes me laugh and question the thought process. Yet people will give Blonde props all day long for beating a 200whp at best 318ti with a TERRIBLE driver :rolleyes I just bought an E21 320i, we'll go race them so you guys can see a real "slaughtering" :shifty

maybe i clicked the wrong link, but i dont see anything running wild.

i do see a nice turbo e46 tho :thumbup:

Okay, it was running in a straight line :stickoutt

I'm honestly not defensive at all, but the mentallity of this board is a riot. It's not a fast car because it "gently" walked away from a M5. And I have no clue what a fast car is supposively. That's the mind set here and it makes me laugh and question the thought process. Yet people will give Blonde props all day long for beating a 200whp at best 318ti with a TERRIBLE driver :rolleyes I just bought an E21 320i, we'll go race them so you guys can see a real "slaughtering" :shifty
James, the point of my video was to demonstrate "slaughter" not to discuss the merits of a 318ti vs an M5.

Also the 318ti is supercharged running 20 psi and would probably hose an M5 :-)

Okay I watched that video and do you want me or anyone else to be impressed by your car beating what looks to be a terrible driver in a 318ti with a supercharger against a car that probably has 400whp more and an experienced racer? :rolleyes Don't get me wrong here man, but this isn't exactly comparing apples to apples here man. You only ran .2 quicker then Rob did in his heavier E46 M3.
James you're missing the point here. I am not trying to promote my car as it was in 2004 vs Rob's HPF car or anything of the sort, just demonstrate "slaughter" as opposed to gently pulling away.

Also your power figures are off, my car had 468 rwhp and the 318ti claimed 300 rwhp.

James, the point of my video was to demonstrate "slaughter" not to discuss the merits of a 318ti vs an M5.

Also the 318ti is supercharged running 20 psi and would probably hose an M5 :-)

I see your point.. so because I called it a "slaughtering" is the reason for the hate ;) And it looked to me like the 318 didn't even move when the light went green where as your smoked the tree and probably had an AWESOME 6ft time... But in the end, it's all about times. I ran a 13.1 as my best in the 1/4 mile with my M5. Rob ran a 11.4. You ran a 11.2 in the video where you 'slaughtered' a 318. What did the 318 run? By yours or anyone else's standards in this thread, it would mean your car isn't a "fast" car either and we all know that isn't true :stickoutt

James - you might also be getting a hard time because many forum members were reading and following this thread from the start - you wrote it all, we saw it all. Sure, those posts were cleaned up by Mods earlier today, but many of us remember you flogging EOSphoto and others with your "torque" blasts and "sissy cars" and all your other crap.

So you think you got walked by an E46 M3 with a 16K HPF turbo kit installed versus your 112K N/A M5? You did. But I have seen some great vids from the HPF guys that show the potential of their kit on this forum - they speak for themselves.

If you cut the video to only include your "holy shit" stuff in the last pulls, we'd all agree as per all the other HPF videos I've seen.

But your combative approach earlier today in defending your car served no purpose.

I'm not going to sit here and argue this retarded point anymore. People can say all day long his car isn't "fast" but in the end, how many of those same guys have ran a 11.4 with full interior, first time at the track and with a car that weighs in around 3500lbs and is daily driven? Ths F/I section is more and more becoming like redneck drag racing to me...

In my book, anything that runs in the low 11 second range is a fast car. If you disagree, so be it. He has the same 1/4 trap speed of a Carrera GT. If you think his car isn't a "fast" car then you obviously don't think a Carrera GT is fast either...

I would like to see A turbo E36 vs. One of the HPF cars....

James - you might also be getting a hard time because many forum members were reading and following this thread from the start - you wrote it all, we saw it all. Sure, those posts were cleaned up by Mods earlier today, but many of us remember you flogging EOSphoto and others with your "torque" blasts and "sissy cars" and all your other crap.

So you think you got walked by an E46 M3 with a 16K HPF turbo kit installed versus your 112K N/A M5? You did. But I have seen some great vids from the HPF guys that show the potential of their kit on this forum - they speak for themselves.

If you cut the video to only include your "holy shit" stuff in the last pulls, we'd all agree as per all the other HPF videos I've seen.

But your combative approach earlier today in defending your car served no purpose.

First the holy "shit" was from the camera man who is not me. Second, this isn't my car.

And finally, EOSphoto deserved every ridicule I gave him and he dished it right back. All I did was defend his redicalous comments and accusation's about my car, the video and Rob's car. Someone who comes into a thread on a BMW forum and calls the car slow and is maybe "BPU Supra" power is a moron. He's obviously some troll looking for an e-fight so I gave him one. Call me an ass, but people like him need to be put in their place even if it's the internet because the internet is serious business.

Btw, I'm the one who asked a MOD to clean it up earlier...

I would like to see A turbo E36 vs. One of the HPF cars....

+1, but with equal power levels.

+1, but with equal power levels.

Soon ;) A lighter car with same power levels should for sure pull on this car without a doubt. But gearing and drivers will also play the biggest roll. So many factors to consider. I think E36 guys are getting worried that they won't run the BMW Turbo scene anymore is what I'm seeing here and I'm an E36 guy :ohnoes

I see your point.. so because I called it a "slaughtering" is the reason for the hate ;) And it looked to me like the 318 didn't even move when the light went green where as your smoked the tree and probably had an AWESOME 6ft time... But in the end, it's all about times. I ran a 13.1 as my best in the 1/4 mile with my M5. Rob ran a 11.4. You ran a 11.2 in the video where you 'slaughtered' a 318. What did the 318 run? By yours or anyone else's standards in this thread, it would mean your car isn't a "fast" car either and we all know that isn't true :stickoutt

James there is no hate from me, I am a fan of the HPF turbo kit.

It does look like the 318ti doesn't move .. that's why we call it "slaughter". Believe me it was moving .. it just doens't look like it. Because it got "slaughtered". Raima ran 13.3 @ 106 MPH in his supercharged 318ti that was gutted, etc (not stock).

You keep bringing up Rob's 11.4 run in comparison to my car. I keep telling you that isn't the point of my post, but nevertheless I'll repeat that I think the 11.4 @ 131 MPH pass Rob laid down is awesome.

You are free to think my M Coupe isn't fast by whatever standards you wish to set.

James basically my point is that the video shows the HPF car gently pulling away from an M5, not slaughtering it. All else is rhetoric.

I'm not going to sit here and argue this retarded point anymore. People can say all day long his car isn't "fast" but in the end, how many of those same guys have ran a 11.4 with full interior, first time at the track and with a car that weighs in around 3500lbs and is daily driven? Ths F/I section is more and more becoming like redneck drag racing to me...

In my book, anything that runs in the low 11 second range is a fast car. If you disagree, so be it. He has the same 1/4 trap speed of a Carrera GT. If you think his car isn't a "fast" car then you obviously don't think a Carrera GT is fast either...
I liked the video, thanks.

I would like to see A turbo E36 vs. One of the HPF cars....
+1, but with equal power levels.
When we finish our EMS turbo kit with 450 RWHP at the wheels on stock motor and stock HG I plan to drive to Phoenix for a meet up with Jim and his HPF 750 E46 M3.

They're both stock motor, stock HG, and same turbo IIRC.

I'm not going to sit here and argue this retarded point anymore. People can say all day long his car isn't "fast" but in the end, how many of those same guys have ran a 11.4 with full interior, first time at the track and with a car that weighs in around 3500lbs and is daily driven? Ths F/I section is more and more becoming like redneck drag racing to me..
Go back to the 'rides and styling' section, it maybe a better fit for you..:stickoutt

sexy. what exhaust do you have? Your redline shift noise seems to sound a tad lower than what I'm used to hearing
Agency Power exhaust. Nice deep, mellow sound, that still allows you to hold a civil conversation while driving.
def want a higher res version of that vid
I would love to shoot more footage of this car, but after the beating James has taken, this may be the last.

I can't blame James for getting a little defensive. He pretty much blew a full day, and drove a considerable distance, to make a five minute video he hoped people would enjoy watching. I realize the headline "HPF 750 running wild" makes it sound like more than it was. Perhaps people where expecting to see David Hasselhoff pushing the turbo button and making the car fly through the air. Of course if the headline read "P.O.S. turbo'd M3 gently pulls on P.O.S. M5", there would be four pages of people saying, "gently pulled?, that M3 blew the doors off that M5!"

Nice video! :)

How much power does the e46 make?

James there is no hate from me, I am a fan of the HPF turbo kit.

It does look like the 318ti doesn't move .. that's why we call it "slaughter". Believe me it was moving .. it just doens't look like it. Because it got "slaughtered". Raima ran 13.3 @ 106 MPH in his supercharged 318ti that was gutted, etc (not stock).

You keep bringing up Rob's 11.4 run in comparison to my car. I keep telling you that isn't the point of my post, but nevertheless I'll repeat that I think the 11.4 @ 131 MPH pass Rob laid down is awesome.

You are free to think my M Coupe isn't fast by whatever standards you wish to set.

James basically my point is that the video shows the HPF car gently pulling away from an M5, not slaughtering it. All else is rhetoric.

Kenny we both know your car is incredible (when it's running :stickoutt) so that's a non-issue.

The video was supposed to be fun and exciting showing off the fastest E46 in the world (yes this car currently holds that title). Nothing more, nothing less. People took my simple term "slaughtering" and ran with it. Why that is, I don't know :dunno He puts 2 bus lenghts on me with pump gas and even more with race gas, in my book, that's slaughtering :rofl Anyways, does it seem odd to people or something that I was excited to get owned by this car? :stickoutt

Go back to the 'rides and styling' section, it maybe a better fit for you..:stickoutt

If I don't have to deal with moron ricers who are on a power trip because they think their car is some kind of track star, then sure I'll stay in the rides section. The only reason I didn't post it there was because I thought people in the F/I forum would enjoy it more.. I guess I was wrong :shifty

Agency Power exhaust. Nice deep, mellow sound, that still allows you to hold a civil conversation while driving.

I would love to shoot more footage of this car, but after the beating James has taken, this may be the last.

Hopefully won't be the last footage, but for sure the last posted on this board that's for sure...

I can't blame James for getting a little defensive. He pretty much blew a full day, and drove a considerable distance, to make a five minute video he hoped people would enjoy watching. I realize the headline "HPF 750 running wild" makes it sound like more than it was. Perhaps people where expecting to see David Hasselhoff pushing the turbo button and making the car fly through the air. Of course if the headline read "P.O.S. turbo'd M3 gently pulls on P.O.S. M5", there would be four pages of people saying, "gently pulled?, that M3 blew the doors off that M5!"

Hi Rob :wave I guess I apologize for not making the video as exciting as the title was :embarrasm

Nice video! :)

How much power does the e46 make?

420whp+ on pump? and 600whp+ on race gas? Somewhere in this figures...

One final word and then I'm done with this thread and going to bed...

A lot of these pulls I was jumping the gun on purpose so Rob could chase me down.. maybe that skewed the view on the runs :dunno

Amazing video! The HPF 750 kit SLAUGHTERED the M5! i've never before seen the like of it, I was shocked to the core!

The FASTEST E46 in the WORLD!

Oh My God! Sick! Sick!! SICK!!!

It just left that mighty M5 for dead! HPF Huzzah!

Huzzah!

Huzzay!

Amazing video! The HPF 750 kit SLAUGHTERED the M5! i've never before seen the like of it, I was shocked to the core!

The FASTEST E46 in the WORLD!

Oh My God! Sick! Sick!! SICK!!!

It just left that mighty M5 for dead! HPF Huzzah!

Huzzah!

Huzzay!

:rofl Thanks Kenny

Sick sick sick videos!!! damn envy!!

Nick

That was the sickest video I have ever seen! The M3 seriously slaughtered the M5! I don't think I've ever seen a car pull away from another fast car like that before! Badass!

3 things probably distort the speed.

-The E46 chassis is "polite"

-Its racing a 330rwhp M5

-The tune is probably sensible (ie, not a tire shredder)

If that was in an E30 or an E34 the backend would be squirming and the tires smoking which makes it look faster.

Nice ride, I'm jealous :)

Amazing video! The HPF 750 kit SLAUGHTERED the M5! i've never before seen the like of it, I was shocked to the core!

The FASTEST E46 in the WORLD!

Oh My God! Sick! Sick!! SICK!!!

It just left that mighty M5 for dead! HPF Huzzah!

Huzzah!

Huzzay!
Kenny, your crazy, man!
3 things probably distort the speed.

-The E46 chassis is "polite"

-Its racing a 330rwhp M5

-The tune is probably sensible (ie, not a tire shredder)

If that was in an E30 or an E34 the backend would be squirming and the tires smoking which makes it look faster.

Nice ride, I'm jealous

The low boost tune is sensible. On the first race gas pull, I was in third and completely lost traction at about 70 mph. The traction loss tachs the car out almost instantly, which is why you hear it popping. I had to shift after that, so most of that pull was in fouth gear.

Thanks for sharing your awesome car with us Rob :)

Great vid James,
-Ted