I'd post this over at the 350Z forums, but that would be like swatting a stick at a bee-hive.

Here's how the story went down. I was on my way to the mall, for the locals that would be the Dolphin mall, and was pumped from a previous run on the highway(long kill story so i won't get into it). Anyways, i'm at the traffic light about to make a left turn and notice a 350Z on my passenger side mirror. Green arrows comes and everyone(total of about 6 cars including mine) is turning into a 3 lane road. Since i was ahead of the 350 i slow down and wait for him to catch up. I notice 2 people in the car(driver and passenger). The passenger looks over, but nothing. The 350z just goes by me, driver not even looking my way. I speed up and pace him, looking over trying to make eye contact with the driver. He finally looks over and in my best hand-talk ask, "you wanna run 'em?". Driver shakes his head in a "no" fashion and i comply. We both end up heading towards the mall and park in separate directions.

Done with my shopping, i start heading out of the mall. When long and behold the car in front of me is the same silver 350z from an 1hour and a half ago. "What are the odds?" i say to myself, it must be the drag gods giving me a sign and to stick the nail in the coffin we're on the same 3 lane road, as before, with a red light comming up:alright .

I pull up next to the Z, and this time the windows are down. The passenger is the first to look in my direction(driver was staring as some chick on the other lane) and i say to them jokingly, "so how about a rematch?". The passenger laughs and relays the message to his buddy, who turns over and notices the same Mustang who wanted to dual not to long ago. The driver laughs at my quirk and jokingly tell me, "get the F--k outta here", but declines to run:bawl . So the light turns green and the only chirping of the night was made by the nearby crickets. He did do the famous ricer "flyby", but i let him be and decided to head toward my GF's house, who lives about 5mins from the mall.

I had all but givin' up hope:( . Then i notice that the Z, who's in front of me, is heading in the same direction. He takes turns here and there with me in toll. By this point he's probably thinking to himself, "I've got a lunatic in a Mustang, stalking my @$$". We finally make it to what would be the final light of the night for me, as my GF's house is just pass the light. We're both at the red on a 2 lane road, with nothing except for what i would call a drag racers dream, Asphalt. I ask the Z owner one final time, almost pleading, "You sure you don't want to run 'em?":95 . And for the 3rd and final time of the night i get rejected:( . So off i went with doubt and bewilderment as to why, with such a wondrous opportunity presenting itself, I had not been able to find the answer to my lingering question. Is the 350z good enough to best my GT?:dunno

He's a chicken, you'd likely take his ass to school in your car...

still would've been good to find out with some tire shredding runs, though.

He was scared... :D

It seems you are surrounded by the same type of 350Z owners that I am -- pussies and old people. EVERY 350Z that I've encountered, without fail, is cruising at 50 MPH in the next-to-slowest lane and won't even acknowledge me.

I must admit, at this time, it's probably best for MY sake, what with my slipping clutch and all. Of course, I'm never one to back down or make excuses, so I still try. Just to see... :dunno

When will I find a 350Z owner that has some balls about them?

Maybe they are giving them a proper break-in? :dunno

Surely they don't have the 911 owner disease?

In Atlanta, and I'm sure elsewhere, more people like to cruise than speed.

Drive slow for show, that kinda thing. Also, if it is their first "sports" car, they may be having insurance shock and scared to do anything.

I will admit that *some* have still had their dealer tags, so I understand that. However, I've seen plenty of others (I now see more 350Zs than I do E36 M3s, so I don't wanna hear how they are more unique anymore :stickoutt ) that had regular plates and are likely to be past break-in.

:rolleyes:

It's not like your missing much, 350z's are quite overated. However, so are those mustang GT's. I stopped posting mustang GT and 1999-02 cobra kills because they have gotten so mundane. :stickoutt

Originally posted by Sticky
It's not like your missing much, 350z's are quite overated. However, so are those mustang GT's. I stopped posting mustang GT and 1999-02 cobra kills because they have gotten so mundane. :stickoutt

:lol:

that's funny, most Zs around here are looking for a drag

"get the F--k outta here"

That's some bulls*** thing to say to someone offering a friendly race. That's the problem with these new 350Z owners, they think they're driving Ferraris. I wonder how many corners Nissan had to cut to make the 350Z "affordable". I know the 3.5 engine is installed in multiple platforms including an SUV. I'll say this: My 7 year old BMW is still more than capable of handling a "new modern day, latest engineering technology 350Z". Furthermore, when their style is passe my car will still look good.

Some people just don't want to street race. It's a pretty stiff fine if caught, and generally most people couldn't be bothered to engage in a speed contests whatsoever. This includes drivers of sporty cars too. In 16 years of driving, I have been in less than ten street races, and I haven't turned many down.

Ya, I don't street race because I am just scared of getting caught. I have turned down some races from cars I knew I would beat, and from cars that I knew would beat me, but it isn't because I'm scared of the car, it's because I am afraid of getting caught by the cops

I get in about 6 street races a week, almost 1 a day. I also get revved on often, and I guess I just know how to bait ppl.

Originally posted by Sticky
I get in about 6 street races a week, almost 1 a day. I also get revved on often, and I guess I just know how to bait ppl.

You will eventually be caught by the cops. It's the law of probabilities...no pun intended. I street race occasionally and I hope to never be caught and especially hope to never be involved in a situation where someone gets hurt.

I just think that if you don't want to race someone the correct response is not "get the F--k outta here".

Originally posted by ADAM///M
You will eventually be caught by the cops. It's the law of probabilities...no pun intended. I street race occasionally and I hope to never be caught and especially hope to never be involved in a situation where someone gets hurt.

Well we will all eventualyl get caught by the cops I suppose then. So far with 3 years of driving I have never been caught doing a street race, but I see your point. There are things you can do to minize the chance of getting caught, like not racing when its 3 pm with lot's of traffic and all the kids getting out of school. A small race every once in a while is no big deal.

Originally posted by Sticky
Well we will all eventualyl get caught by the cops I suppose then. So far with 3 years of driving I have never been caught doing a street race, but I see your point. There are things you can do to minize the chance of getting caught, like not racing when its 3 pm with lot's of traffic and all the kids getting out of school. A small race every once in a while is no big deal.

I totally agree with you. There is a time and place for everything. If conditions seem proper, go for it. Problem is that there could be a cop around that you can't visually see and you greatly increase your chances of getting caught if you do it often. We don't want you to get caught because we like seeing you post your kills!!

most of the time is not the cops that u should worry, it's other people or yourself that could get injured while racing

I respect the 350Z's but they really should have had a bigger engine. They're really cool lookin tho.

I've only ran one 350Z and he underestimated me.. Sucker. :)

Originally posted by Sticky
It's not like your missing much, 350z's are quite overated. However, so are those mustang GT's. I stopped posting mustang GT and 1999-02 cobra kills because they have gotten so mundane. :stickoutt

I seem to recall SOMEONE on this board running their E46 M3 and getting a ~13.5 second 1320' time, which just happens to be the time this guy's GT runs. So maybe when every E46 M3 owner can drag with a ~$25k GT with 'just' a SOHC mod motor then they can talk about what's overrated...


:laugh

Originally posted by Sticky
It's not like your missing much, 350z's are quite overated. However, so are those mustang GT's. I stopped posting mustang GT and 1999-02 cobra kills because they have gotten so mundane. :stickoutt

Says the guy who has only had his car to the drag strip once and could only manage 13.7's... when Angel has 13.5's in his "over rated GT"... ;) :laugh

Originally posted by SilverStreak
Says the guy who has only had his car to the drag strip once and could only manage 13.7's... when Angel has 13.5's in his "over rated GT"... ;) :laugh

C'mon guys, I don't want Sticky seeing my name on every Mustang he see's, saying to himself, "Who the hell does this Angel guy think he is. Showing up on OUR boards claimming to run 13.5's :mad:. I'll show them:rocketwho . I'll SHOW THEM ALL MUAHAHAHAHAA!! :evil2 ". It's all about knowing your car, what it can do, and most importantly, how you drive it.

Originally posted by SilverStreak
Says the guy who has only had his car to the drag strip once and could only manage 13.7's... when Angel has 13.5's in his "over rated GT"... ;) :laugh

You more than anyone should know different tracks yield different times. It was 13.6 BTW.

He's in Miami where the tracks are comparable to yours in CA, in terms of air density (elevation + humidity, etc).... ;)

Originally posted by SilverStreak
He's in Miami where the tracks are comparable to yours in CA, in terms of air density (elevation + humidity, etc).... ;)

The only way to find out who is faster is for me to race him in the same place, not to speculate if the tracks are the same :stickoutt

Look at JaWeb's times, he has the same car as you, and runs about 1 tenth quicker, with similar trap speeds, that's indicative of the air density comparison...

Originally posted by SilverStreak
Look at JaWeb's times, he has the same car as you, and runs about 1 tenth quicker, with similar trap speeds, that's indicative of the air density comparison...

Too many other factors: Track prep, tire PSI, size of rims, mileage on car, etc.

Best way to shut people up is to go out and run a better time yourself, Stickenhiemer... ;)

As far as we are concerned you drive a 13.6x car, nothing more, nothing less... :D

Originally posted by SilverStreak
Best way to shut people up is to go out and run a better time yourself, Stickenhiemer... ;)

As far as we are concerned you drive a 13.6x car, nothing more, nothing less... :D

:eek: ouch! :insert 'owned' smiley here::mdrbig

sorry to hijack the thread but...

why is this thread in kill stories. remember the big fiasco a few weeks ago about non bmw kill stories being in off topic??? After the fit that some people threw (not naming any names!) it's nice to see that it lasted a whole week. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by latis21
sorry to hijack the thread but...

why is this thread in kill stories. remember the big fiasco a few weeks ago about non bmw kill stories being in off topic??? After the fit that some people threw (not naming any names!) it's nice to see that it lasted a whole week. :rolleyes:



almost forgot!

latis must have missed the part where we said we'd lighten up on the content provided it wasn't wall to wall non-BMW specific Kills, etc...

I guess so! I guess posts do slip by me occasionally! I didn't think it was possible...

Usually pays to know what you're talking about before whipping out the "owned" pics... ;)

Thanks for the tip but the owned pic was for sticky because of your comment on his quarter mile time...I just hit the quote button rather than the edit button. ;)

Originally posted by latis21
Thanks for the tip but the owned pic was for sticky because of your comment on his quarter mile time...I just hit the quote button rather than the edit button. ;)

What is wrong with a 13.6? A bpu supra that ran with me ran a 14.1. 13.6 is a very respectable time for that track.

Originally posted by latis21
Thanks for the tip but the owned pic was for sticky because of your comment on his quarter mile time...I just hit the quote button rather than the edit button. ;)

Gotcha... understood... :)

Originally posted by Sticky
What is wrong with a 13.6? A bpu supra that ran with me ran a 14.1. 13.6 is a very respectable time for that track.

Nothing wrong with a 13.6, but you talk an inordinate amount of smack for a guy who has only run his car at the track once in his life, only been to the track like 4 times in his 3 yrs of legalized driving, and all he has to show for it is a 13.6.

You should read your posts sometime, objectively. Your attitude would make you think you had the fastest/baddest BMW on the planet.

We got guys here with N/A E36 M3's running faster than a 13.6. Heck my Z3 3.0 with only drag radials and it's 198 rwhp was running a 13.6. I ran an S2000 to a 13.6 for my buddy, Kenny.

So nothing wrong with a 13.6, but you need a reality check as to your place, every once in a while... ;)

Originally posted by SilverStreak
Nothing wrong with a 13.6, but you talk an inordinate amount of smack for a guy who has only run his car at the track once in his life, only been to the track like 4 times in his 3 yrs of legalized driving, and all he has to show for it is a 13.6.

We got guys here with N/A E36 M3's running faster than a 13.6. Heck my Z3 3.0 with only drag radials and it's 198 rwhp was running a 13.6. I ran an S2000 to a 13.6 for my buddy, Kenny.

So nothing wrong with a 13.6, but you need a reality check as to your place, every once in a while... ;)

So you have a faster 1/4 mile time, so that puts me in a lower place as far as timeslip's go. Timeslips do not make the measure of a man :stickoutt

If I come across as having the most badass bmw out there, I am sorry. That is just the way I type, and I guess the way I come across. I might not have amazing timeslips, but I have beaten some very fast cars out on the street, and can back that up.

I am working on getting the car into the 12's, it is not going to happen overnight. That is the fun part :clap:

Nothing related to cars speak to the measure of a man. How he conducts himself as a person (online or in person), how he speaks to others, his attitude, etc-- those things do, however. ;)

I wasn't talking about me or referring to you as "lower place" than anyone. Just keeping you honest for the sake of everyone else here. 13.6 is no big deal.

And street races = dick. You know that, right? They "measure" nothing meaningful for the sake of comparison. Sure, they are fun but there are a million factors, you can't even be sure half the time the other guy was really giving it his all, etc.

My buddy in a C5 often times gets pests bugging him on the highway, he'll be 4th gear and just lower his foot, black smoke comes out the back, so if some guy blows past him, he goes to a site like this one claiming he beat a C5. Meanwhile, my buddy was changing radio stations and sipping his soda the whole time...

When you line up against someone at the track- there's no doubts, no questions, no excuses. And irrefutable measured proof of what you in your car can accomplish.

Originally posted by SilverStreak
Nothing related to cars speak to the measure of a man. How he conducts himself as a person (online or in person), how he speaks to others, his attitude, etc-- those things do, however. ;)

I wasn't talking about me or referring to you as "lower place" than anyone. Just keeping you honest for the sake of everyone else here. 13.6 is no big deal.

And street races = dick. You know that, right? Not only are there a million factors, you can't even be sure half the time the other guy was really giving it his all, etc.


When you line up against someone at the track- there's no doubts, no questions, no excuses. And irrefutable measured proof of what you in your car can accomplish.

There are millions of factors in any race, be it on the strip of the street.

13.6 is no big deal, but it's not slow either.

I was also referring to the video's of me racing, obviously the guys were going all out in those.

It's fun going at it with some guy on the street or highway sometimes, you are guilty of that as well... :D

Sure. But just so long as you know it (street racing) doesn't prove diddley squat in terms of measuring anything meaningful for the sake of comparison.

And regarding the 13.6. With 198 rwhp (225 bhp), my car ran a 13.6. That's some embarassing shit for a Z3 3.0 to run an equal time to the big bad 333 bhp E46 M3... it's all a matter of perspective, Stickenhiemer... ;)

Originally posted by SilverStreak


And regarding the 13.6. With 198 rwhp (225 bhp), my car ran a 13.6. That's some embarassing shit for a Z3 3.0 to run an equal time to the big bad 333 bhp E46 M3... it's all a matter of perspective, Stickenhiemer... ;)

The way you would get your ass handed to you at freeway speeds, or on a roadcourse (the true measure of the car), would be when you would realize where all that extra money went. :awink:

I didn't bring up money, and we were discussing drag racing. Once again you exemplify exactly what I was saying about you in that other thread (your debate tactics, or lack there of, actually).

Stay on point, Stick-man.

Originally posted by SilverStreak
I didn't bring up money, and we were discussing drag racing. Once again you exemplify exactly what I was saying about you in that other thread (your debate tactics, or lack there of, actually).

Stay on point, Stick-man.

You said earlier I spent 60k to run 13.6, you brought up money silver, not I.

Ah, but once again, you must consider 'context', Stickenschmidt...

Originally posted by SilverStreak
Ah, but once again, you must consider 'context', Stickenschmidt...

Man we have made a lot of posts and taken these threads completely off topic, no wonder your post count is so high.

C'mon Stickmeister, prove all of us wrong about you. Prove that you are capable of being humble. Prove that you have a sense of humor, a modicum of self deprecation- and change your title from "Perpetual Timeout" to "Often Wrong, Never In Doubt"... do it for us, c'mon.... :D

Originally posted by SilverStreak
C'mon Stickmeister, prove all of us wrong about you. Prove that you are capable of being humble. Prove that you have a sense of humor, a modicum of self deprecation- and change your title from "Perpetual Timeout" to "Often Wrong, Never In Doubt"... do it for us, c'mon.... :D

You have the power to change my title don't you? I don't want you to, and I like it the way it is. I do not have to prove anything either way :)

Why do I have to prove I have a sense of humor? You should be able to tell from my posts I do. What do I have to prove wrong, what opinion do you hold of me?

Your response to certain comments speaks volumes about you as a person.

As does your lack of reponse to other comments, like:

"Nothing related to cars speak to the measure of a man. How he conducts himself as a person (online or in person), how he speaks to others, his attitude, etc-- those things do, however."

"And you're right, I do have plenty left to learn. I make mistakes all the time. And you'll notice that when I'm wrong about something, I'm the first one to admit to it.

I enjoy learning, I'm not insecure and don't take it as a shot to my fragile ego or use it as an excuse to lash out at others...

I don't make excuses in any circumstance, even when I'm wrong... <--- It's called maturity, integrity, humility, etc..."

"Nope, your problem is, you can't stand to be proven wrong, so you go off on tangent points, back step your original comments, take things out of context, and basically try anything to draw attention away from the fact that you were possibly wrong about something."


Come to think of it, between these 2 threads, everytime I make a good point about something to you, you ignore it, and pull something out of context and make an unrelated comment in response. Just like I pointed out to you earlier. Poor tactics, Stickenshire....

I gave you the opportunity to show some humility, have some fun, and make some fun of yourself, etc... the fact that you can't speaks to your character as a man, I'll let others form their own opinions about you, based on that, but if you respond the way you did to what James had to say to you last night, you won't like it...

So what kind of person am I then? I have told you before many times, I never claim to mature, nor do I intend to conform to what anyone else consider's maturity. I shall continue to be "me".

Silver, are you trying to be my psychologist?

As for ignoring your good points, and pulling things out of context into a debate or changing the subject, I was just pulling a saddam. He managed to use that tactic to keep the US out of his hair for over 10 years ;)

"I have told you before many times, I never claim to mature, nor do I intend to conform to what anyone else consider's maturity. I shall continue to be "me". "

Ok then, don't get your panties in a bunch when people call into question your credibility and show you less respect.

And don't go whining in OT about how things aren't fun anymore, you have made your own bed here by your conduct. (You don't "get it" do you?)

"Silver, are you trying to be my psychologist?"

Even you couldn't afford me... ;)

"As for ignoring your good points, and pulling things out of context into a debate or changing the subject, I was just pulling a saddam. He managed to use that tactic to keep the US out of his hair for over 10 years"

Proving my point- often wrong, never in doubt.

Originally posted by SilverStreak
"I have told you before many times, I never claim to mature, nor do I intend to conform to what anyone else consider's maturity. I shall continue to be "me". "

Ok then, don't get your panties in a bunch when people call into question your credibility and show you less respect.

And don't go whining in OT about how things aren't fun anymore, you have made your own bed here by your conduct. (You don't "get it" do you?)

"Silver, are you trying to be my psychologist?"

Even you couldn't afford me... ;)

"As for ignoring your good points, and pulling things out of context into a debate or changing the subject, I was just pulling a saddam. He managed to use that tactic to keep the US out of his hair for over 10 years"

Proving my point- often wrong, never in doubt.

What I posted in OT has nothing do with this. It is a totally seperate matter, it has more to deal with me and how I feel, rather than anything else.

I will not admit to being wrong, until I feel I truly was wrong.

Someone reading this thread looking for a kill story is going to run into a big psychological debate :)

I get pissed when someone says I am making someting up, because I know I am not and I have tried to get a reputation as posting credible kills. I will just make sure I have everything on video after this.

Actually it has everything to do with this. What James said to you obviously effected you.

And since you admit to being immature, and being fiercely proud of being immature, you essentially give up your right to be upset when people respond to you like you are a little boy, rather than a man. ;)

As I said, you made your bed here, from now on you have to lie in it.... so when I see you whine in OT about how things just aren't fun anymore it leaves me to suggest to you that you take a look in the proverbial mirror.

You complain about the state of things here. You want things to change here, start with yourself, kiddo. I got 4 complaints in my PM Box about you last night.

You get back what you give out, that's not just here, that's in life. You'd get more respect if treated others with respect.

As for "I will not admit to being wrong, until I feel I truly was wrong" Shocking!! And horribly ironic. Re-read what you wrote a few times. Hence your new title here, "Often wrong, never in doubt"

You open your mouth and prove me 100% correct at every turn, with what I have said about you. What's an absolute riot about that, is that you don't see that! :laugh

Originally posted by SilverStreak

And since you admit to being immature, and being fiercely proud of being immature, you essentially give up your right to be upset when people respond to you like you are a little boy, rather than a man. ;)

You complain about the state of things here. You want things to change here, start with yourself, kiddo. I got 4 complaints in my PM Box about you last night.

You open your mouth and prove me 100% correct at every turn, with what I have said about you. What's an absolute riot about that, is that you don't see that! :laugh

Only 4 complaints? That's it? I am losing my touch.

I find it funny members actually have to go and run for help to mods because they can't handle what I say. How do those members handle real life?

I am sure you know it is "affected" not "effected" (Score 1 for sticky).

Just get down to the point silver, what is this all about and what are you trying to accomplish here?

It wasn't people running for help, it was long established membership sick of your attitude and immaturity.

Actually, both words work for what I was saying, both "affected" and "effected". Look them both up, if you own a dictionary.

What am I trying to accomplish? You've done it all for me, I haven't had to lift a finger... :stickoutt:

Originally posted by SilverStreak
It wasn't people running for help, it was long established membership sick of your attitude and immaturity.

Actually, both words work for what I was saying, both "affected" and "effected". Look them both up, if you own a dictionary.

What am I trying to accomplish? You've done it all for me, I haven't had to lift a finger... :stickoutt:

Silver, what I am asking is, what is the point of all of this? This type of debate always ends up happening between you and I.

Look, you say I am immature and a kid, that is fine. I have no problem with that, anyone can think what they want, why should I care?

I am here to have fun and learn enjoy cars. Why must we debate how mature I am, what I do for a living, 1/4 mile times, and everything else. You seem to go out of your way to point this things about about me, why? Would you spend this much time on any other member? If I am so immature and just a little kid with no experience, why didn't you give up long ago and say to yourself: "He is just a stupid kid, I won't waste anymore of my time."?

Originally posted by Sticky
Silver, what I am asking is, what is the point of all of this? This type of debate always ends up happening between you and I.

Look, you say I am immature and a kid, that is fine. I have no problem with that, anyone can think what they want, why should I care?

I am here to have fun and learn enjoy cars. Why must we debate how mature I am, what I do for a living, 1/4 mile times, and everything else. You seem to go out of your way to point this things about about me, why? Would you spend this much time on any other member? If I am so immature and just a little kid with no experience, why didn't you give up long ago and say to yourself: "He is just a stupid kid, I won't waste anymore of my time."?

Nice try, Stickmeister.

But it is you that brought up your maturity first in these threads today, not me, do a re-read.

But as to where things got to at this point, you brought up your maturity and fiercely defended it like a badge of honor or something.

So it's not what I think, I never brought it up, you brought it up, you confirmed it, and I mentioned I got complaints in my PM box about your maturity from others. I never stated what I think anywhere, just cited what others (yourself included) stated about your level of maturity.

But since you wanna get into it, fine. We (The Admin Staff) continue to get complaints about you here, even after your 2 sessions in Time-Out, and you were told in no uncertain terms by several of us (The Admin Staff) that you were out of chances, etc.

So let's discuss your conduct here at BimmerForums, shall we? You ask why? It's my job to stay on top of "trouble-making members" like you. And when my PM Box gets filled with messages from people you piss off, I have to pay attention to your antics and BS.

So when people question you, you get all upset. I was trying to point out to you how you have created you're own situation here with your behavior here at BimmerForums.

An example of which is your inability to ever admit to being wrong to even the most minute of details- which was comically pointed out by several others here, and then further enforced by your very own replies. And a point just about everyone agrees on about you, you can not admit when you're wrong, and that speaks to your character. And that's what we're discussing here, now.

So I guess the message is, don't whine too loudly about the grief people give you here, cuz you have brought it on yourself by your conduct here since you joined. You continue to show other members a lack of respect, yet somehow seem to feel you deserve some respect, yourself.

When facts get pointed out to you in a discussion that could prove something you said as wrong or not 100% right (oh, the horror!), you refuse to acknowledge them, and go off on a tangent point. That does not make you very popular here, and in fact gets Moderators PM Boxes filled with notes about how annoying you are to others.

It's ok to be wrong, you know? That's how you learn. I'm wrong all the time, and we joke about the fact that I'm 33 and have some experience with a few things like Drag Racing, but trust me, I'm a moron compared to lots of guys with tons more experience than me. I'm aware of that, however, where you seem to think you're infallible- a trait many of our members find annoying about you, and a reason you have lots of people here who not only don't like you, but will go out of their way to give you a hard time here.

See how that works? Your attitude and personality are so abrasive and unattractive, you're fighting an uphill battle. People are just waiting to pounce on you. Remember what Bob said to you? You have a tendency to bring out the worst in people.

An immature kid might think that's "cool" or "rebellious" and glorify that as a point of differentiation. But to the rest of us, it's just plain annoying.

And if you like BimmerForums as much as you stated you do in the thread in the Suggestions Forum the other day, and you want stay around here much longer, I advise you to change your ways.

And don't look a gift horse in the mouth. I'm one of the reasons you're still here. The day I give up on you, and stop spending time with you, to try to improve your conduct here at BimmerForums, is the likely the day you get banned.

You wanna discuss this further, PM me about it.