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BMW5868
09-28-2007, 01:28 PM
I started a new post so i can condense everything. I worked out some pricing for the forum guys. This is for a limited amount as i'm not sure if i'm ready to get in production - as my tire business is getting ready for the winter season and it get F'in crazy.

The rear cover will be $300.00 for the raw core. If you want me to fit everything i'll have to add about $120.00 bucks, If you are good with a dremal tool you can do it yourself. The rear is much easier to do than the front. I not sure what shipping will be but i would think around $60 - $80. This price is US$ dollars which right now is par with CDN$. The Front Cover 1st (on zoints) or 2nd above (large opening with 2 piece splitter)design is slightly more $330.00 + $150.00 for the 1 piece frt hamman style splitter or $140.00 for two piece + $150.00 to fit & finish.

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/2841/frtfogev2.th.jpg (http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=frtfogev2.jpg) http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/1889/frtcoverzo2.th.jpg (http://img404.imageshack.us/my.php?image=frtcoverzo2.jpg) http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/7516/rearcoverjg2.th.jpg (http://img404.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rearcoverjg2.jpg)

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/2266/coveren0.th.jpg (http://img503.imageshack.us/my.php?image=coveren0.jpg)

The front cover 2nd design was made for my car specifically and will house a I/C 8" h x 16 to 20 inch in lenght. The 1st design currently on my car (without the bottom lip splitter) is almost the same as the 2nd design execept the splitter runs along the entire bottom, the side flip is the same. u can see whats currently on the car at http://bmw5868.zoints.com/album

The rear bumper is the same except the dip in the rear has been fixed.

I was thinking about it the other day and if u dont want any bumper guards the B/S said they could just as easily fiberglass over it. Just a suggestion

I dont want any payment up front - only upon completion and shipping. I would perfer you take the raw core as i not sure what the shops will be like thru the winter months. I can give u any support or info as required to do DIY.

Strahan
09-28-2007, 02:13 PM
Are the bumpers fiberglass or urethane? Do you include the new style foglights with it, and if so how much extra? When you say bumper guard BS being fiberglassed over, do you mean the channels in the top where the strips go?

Also, the exhaust cutouts on back.. would they match up with the stock muffler locations? It's popular it seems to replace the mufflers with Magnaflows and the like that extend pipes out the back, wondering if those will line up or if it has to be custom located to use the new bumper cutouts.

fermunky
09-28-2007, 02:19 PM
I am assuming this is for the E38 crowd?

BMW5868
09-28-2007, 02:50 PM
Yes the E38 crowd - the fog and fillers are off of a 2000 M5, filler are OEM only fog where ever u can get them. Exhaust cutouts are centered for magaflow and may require a little twicking to center them. instead of using the factory bumper impact strips, u can do one of two things - use M5 bumper impact strips or remold over the existing channels to make a smooth finish. There is more info on another thread Pro-type covers swhich is where i first posted. They are a made of light weight poly fiberglass.

NiTe740iS
09-28-2007, 05:27 PM
very nice work!

Md750
09-28-2007, 07:34 PM
+1 on the nice work.

i don't know which one you're referring to as 1st and 2nd gen, but this is the one i want: http://bmw5868.zoints.com/album/?imgid=63799

you said the rear is the same and as you suggested, i can do the finishing touches on the rear. what's up with the side skirts tho?

oh, one more thing...i assume that i will not have a problem with my pdc's, correct? i'll just need some m5 bumper moldings, right?

TxDarth
09-28-2007, 07:36 PM
Yes the E38 crowd - the fog and fillers are off of a 2000 M5, filler are OEM only fog where ever u can get them. Exhaust cutouts are centered for magaflow and may require a little twicking to center them. instead of using the factory bumper impact strips, u can do one of two things - use M5 bumper impact strips or remold over the existing channels to make a smooth finish. There is more info on another thread Pro-type covers swhich is where i first posted. They are a made of light weight poly fiberglass.


That is not bad - I paid Justin $600.00 for mine in Nov of '04, received it two years later and it was JUNK! I hope it works this time - I am interested in the rear ONLY if the glass and quality is good. I say this being one of the lucky ones that Justin got to on the last run. I had a quote of $2,500.00 for a body shop to FINISH the rough gelcoat and imperfections in the glass then paint the bumper that he sent me.

They basically said they would have to cut and rebuild the bumper. I could never get any money out of Justin so I thru the damn thing away about two months ago. Actually the bodyshop got tired of storing it for me and I didn't know what else to do with it. Let me know when they are ready - TxDarth@aol.com

BMW5868
09-29-2007, 02:19 AM
The bumpers frt or rear are molded to take take the original bumper impacts as the 7 series currently has, in other words the top portion is an exact casting of the original 7 series cover with a molded bottom half from a M5. If u want the look of the original cover, u dremel in the opening where the original bumper impact strip are currenty on your 7 series, i did it this way so that if u only wanted the rear cover the styling would stay the same. However you can modify to accept a M5 molding. If you look at the pic's of my car u can see that they are with the 3 piece bumper impact pieces from our original cars. The side skirt are going to be available, i left them to last as they are easy to re-do, need some more material in some spots. I'll also get some pic's with the full lenght splitter for the the frt (1st design cover).

chico728
09-29-2007, 07:31 AM
Any shots of the bumper on a car?

Would like to see that.

NiTe740iS
09-29-2007, 09:09 AM
Any shots of the bumper on a car?

Would like to see that.

Look at the link in his opening post.

Md750
09-29-2007, 10:26 AM
The bumpers frt or rear are molded to take take the original bumper impacts as the 7 series currently has, in other words the top portion is an exact casting of the original 7 series cover with a molded bottom half from a M5. If u want the look of the original cover, u dremel in the opening where the original bumper impact strip are currenty on your 7 series, i did it this way so that if u only wanted the rear cover the styling would stay the same. However you can modify to accept a M5 molding. If you look at the pic's of my car u can see that they are with the 3 piece bumper impact pieces from our original cars. The side skirt are going to be available, i left them to last as they are easy to re-do, need some more material in some spots. I'll also get some pic's with the full lenght splitter for the the frt (1st design cover).
ok, i see it now...that's awesome! again, great job! keep us posted on your progress

humanite
10-04-2007, 04:28 PM
First, you have done a great job. Although you did not start with the intent to sell these, its cool that you are and are keeping the prices affordable.

I'm interested in Front Bumper (Not Sure which), Side Skirts and Rear Bumper.

Front Bumper:

1. I know I like "1st design currently on your car", w/out the bottom lip splitter.

a. Is that the same as "Front Cover 1st (on zoints)".

2. I do like the other version (2nd design w/ 2 piece splitter).
2nd design was made for my car specifically and will house a I/C.

a. Need to see on your car or take a picture of it prop'd or next to your car w/ the first design. So we can see how low it hangs, those splitters look nice.
But in New York that may be to low.

b. Picture of single splitter would be great.

Keep us up to date on the progress.

Strahan
10-04-2007, 05:05 PM
Is this a limited time thing, or will we be able to get these next spring? I love the look, but will probably have to wait till Jan/Feb before I can do it as I'll want to do an exhaust system at the same time due to the cutouts and such.

series
10-04-2007, 07:20 PM
NICE WORK! I like your car.

BMW5868
10-04-2007, 09:11 PM
I am getting the one piece splitter done and as soon as it is ready i will post pictures. We are fitting the 2nd design next week so i will be able to show the difference in the two designs. You can buy one whenever u r ready. It takes about a 2-3 days to get one done, i cant guarantee the price down the road but i cant see it going up substancally especially with our $$ being almost par.

98 528i
10-04-2007, 09:16 PM
very nice work. Kudos.

Md750
10-05-2007, 09:38 AM
screw it, i've been looking for a new look on the 7...i'll get one now from you...actually maybe frt and rear. i'll send you a pm and we can exchange info.

did you answer my question about the side skirts yet?

TitaniumSeeker
10-05-2007, 03:22 PM
screw it, i've been looking for a new look on the 7...i'll get one now from you...actually maybe frt and rear. i'll send you a pm and we can exchange info.

did you answer my question about the side skirts yet?

I just knew you couldn't resist!!!!!!!!

TxDarth
10-05-2007, 05:08 PM
I just knew you couldn't resist!!!!!!!!

Sorry Duane....I ordered one from Mike also - even after my experience with Justin.:eyecrazy

I went with rear only !!!!

TitaniumSeeker
10-05-2007, 05:32 PM
Sorry Duane....I ordered one from Mike also - even after my experience with Justin.:eyecrazy

I went with rear only !!!!

Well Roger,
I sent a PM....I know, Sneaky me.:D..... to get a quote for the rear only as well. Seriously thinking of doing your exhaust mod, dropping the Dinan out and replacing with the Remus... Oh GOD! please help me.... I just can't stop!!!!:eyecrazy

TxDarth
10-05-2007, 05:47 PM
Well Roger,
I sent a PM....I know, Sneaky me.:D..... to get a quote for the rear only as well. Seriously thinking of doing your exhaust mod, dropping the Dinan out and replacing with the Remus... Oh GOD! please help me.... I just can't stop!!!!:eyecrazy

You started me after seeing your car back when....

I think you will like the Remus tho and if you remove the center resonator don't go with a bare crossover...add a muffler/crossover combo similar to the MagnaFlow I used. The sound is nice and not too loud - doesn't sound like a pick'em truck at all!:buttrock

BMW5868
10-05-2007, 05:59 PM
Dont replace the dinan with the remus - just replace the tailpipes as i did, either twin or singles, much better perforance and sound IMO, plus the money u spent for the dinan! Ouch!
Here what i did for Roger TxDarth, since he is one of the lucky ones to get a rear cover from Justin, i am sending him a rear cover hopefully next week, he is only paying the shipping, if it doesnt meet his approval i am paying to have it shipped back. If it meets his approval he pays cost of bumper. This way he can critic or give his seal of approval, hopefully he will have no issue with quality and fitment. Once he give the thumbs up, i will put them into production for the guys that want one. This way everyone will be satisfied with the product. Sound Fair.

The product is PRF (poly reinforced fiberglass) 1 extra layer of fiber and 1.5x extra coats of poly for extra strenght but still lightweight

The side skirts will be ready soon, some fine tuning.

SE7EN40RTY
10-05-2007, 07:43 PM
Put me on the list to buy. I need the Front bumper, Side skirts for a 740i, and rear bumper. Please PM with the price shipped to Denver, Colorado. Thanks!

taroni133
10-09-2007, 03:46 PM
looks really nice ,
dont fancy shipping a rear to the uk do you

TitaniumSeeker
10-10-2007, 09:40 AM
Dont replace the dinan with the remus - just replace the tailpipes as i did, either twin or singles, much better perforance and sound IMO, plus the money u spent for the dinan! Ouch!
Here what i did for Roger TxDarth, since he is one of the lucky ones to get a rear cover from Justin, i am sending him a rear cover hopefully next week, he is only paying the shipping, if it doesnt meet his approval i am paying to have it shipped back. If it meets his approval he pays cost of bumper. This way he can critic or give his seal of approval, hopefully he will have no issue with quality and fitment. Once he give the thumbs up, i will put them into production for the guys that want one. This way everyone will be satisfied with the product. Sound Fair.

The product is PRF (poly reinforced fiberglass) 1 extra layer of fiber and 1.5x extra coats of poly for extra strenght but still lightweight

The side skirts will be ready soon, some fine tuning.

Sounds good to me. And you are right. The costs for the Dinan was a killer. :eyecrazy I'd rather put the money into something else..

Roger, I look forward to hearing your critique on this bumper.

ellomdian
10-10-2007, 06:45 PM
Alright - I've read the entire post line twice. Hate to be a nag, but can you spell out how much making the front of my car look like yours will look? The 2nd (??) version looks like it has a lot less clearance.

What is the difference between the one piece and the 2 piece? Sorry if im being a nag, but I realllly like the look, and I need a new front cover anyways :P

Md750
10-10-2007, 08:52 PM
Sounds good to me. And you are right. The costs for the Dinan was a killer. :eyecrazy I'd rather put the money into something else..

Roger, I look forward to hearing your critique on this bumper.
i was going to say if you are getting the remus, i'll take the dinan off your hands. if/when you get the bumper, where are you going to have them installed and painted?

TitaniumSeeker
10-11-2007, 05:18 PM
i was going to say if you are getting the remus, i'll take the dinan off your hands. if/when you get the bumper, where are you going to have them installed and painted?

Sorry Frank. I was convinced not to switch out the Dinan so I will have a shop in Crofton, MD install dual SS tips. Painting the bumper will be done at:
Collision Works
11401 Old Baltimore Pike
Beltsville, MD 20705
(301) 595-0187

They do excellent work there. Had my hood redone there as well as my side skirts, bumper and trunk spoiler. I highly recommend them and they are reasonably priced.

BMW5868
10-11-2007, 07:42 PM
Alright - I've read the entire post line twice. Hate to be a nag, but can you spell out how much making the front of my car look like yours will look? The 2nd (??) version looks like it has a lot less clearance.

What is the difference between the one piece and the 2 piece? Sorry if im being a nag, but I realllly like the look, and I need a new front cover anyways :P

Ok -once more the first design is on zoints - the one piece splitter runs the entire lenght of the 1st design cover attaches underneath which will give the cover about 1.5" more drop - i just got it yesterday and will post a pic's as soon as i can. The second design has a 3" lower drop at the mouth and has 2 side fitted splitter.

mikestyle
10-11-2007, 11:52 PM
omg thank you ill take just the front 2nd edition (and skirts when made) that would be awsome, sorry cant quite makeout it out however are the parking sensers effected?






PUT ME ON YOUR LIST FORSHURE

Md750
10-12-2007, 12:16 AM
Sorry Frank. I was convinced not to switch out the Dinan so I will have a shop in Crofton, MD install dual SS tips. Painting the bumper will be done at:
Collision Works
11401 Old Baltimore Pike
Beltsville, MD 20705
(301) 595-0187

They do excellent work there. Had my hood redone there as well as my side skirts, bumper and trunk spoiler. I highly recommend them and they are reasonably priced.
yeah, i figured someone would talk you into keeping them, but i had to try:D

cool...i actually need a totally new paint job anyway. so after the body kit may be a really good time to do just that. oh we need to talk to...the last time we spoke you were talking about doing some real estate. very interested in getting an update on that

TitaniumSeeker
10-12-2007, 11:48 AM
yeah, i figured someone would talk you into keeping them, but i had to try:D

cool...i actually need a totally new paint job anyway. so after the body kit may be a really good time to do just that. oh we need to talk to...the last time we spoke you were talking about doing some real estate. very interested in getting an update on that

You have mail..

BMW5868
10-13-2007, 02:50 PM
Update - I am am shipping rear cover to TxDarth first thing Monday, give it 3 - 4 days.

Sensors are in the bumper mouldings and since the covers are cast from the oringinal, upper portion, u only have to cut out openings for wiring with a hole saw, same goes for the WW nozzles, which is done with the cover mounted to the rebar.

TxDarth
10-13-2007, 05:38 PM
Update - I am am shipping rear cover to TxDarth first thing Monday, give it 3 - 4 days.

Sensors are in the bumper mouldings and since the covers are cast from the oringinal, upper portion, u only have to cut out openings for wiring with a hole saw, same goes for the WW nozzles, which is done with the cover mounted to the rebar.

Thanx for the update........

I do NOT have parkng assist so will not be a problem.:D

BMW5868
10-15-2007, 05:16 PM
1st Design one piece front splitter
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/8054/img3524gd8.th.jpg (http://img149.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img3524gd8.jpg) http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/9080/img3525wd5.th.jpg (http://img149.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img3525wd5.jpg) http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/4707/img3526hl3.th.jpg (http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img3526hl3.jpg)

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1156/img3527vq1.th.jpg (http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img3527vq1.jpg) http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1570/img3528fk4.th.jpg (http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img3528fk4.jpg) http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/6641/img3530ky6.th.jpg (http://img267.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img3530ky6.jpg) http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/1189/img3531dr0.th.jpg (http://img267.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img3531dr0.jpg)

Just put in place quickly - my pic taking sucks. Will get better ones!!

Md750
10-15-2007, 07:35 PM
i personally don't care for the splitter...so my order should be easy:D

humanite
10-15-2007, 10:33 PM
I would get the splitter even if I did not use it.
Because I need to see it in person and it is the way the Hamann M Kit (pics below) was and that car looks sick.

The moldings and plate trim in the pics are like the stock 7 Series moldings.
Question:
Is there an option to look like or use M5 stock moldings and plate trim (pics below)?

Mossive
10-15-2007, 10:41 PM
I would get the splitter even if I did not use it.
Because I need to see it in person and it is the way the Hamann M Kit (pics below) was and that car looks sick.

The moldings and plate trim in the pics are like the stock 7 Series moldings.
Question:
Is there an option to look like or use M5 stock moldings and plate trim (pics below)?


the third pic is the sickest:alright i have ever seen! my wife doesnt make me as hard as that car does!:eyecrazy:eyecrazy:eyecrazy:eyecrazy:eyecrazy

BMW5868
10-16-2007, 09:27 AM
I would get the splitter even if I did not use it.
Because I need to see it in person and it is the way the Hamann M Kit (pics below) was and that car looks sick.

The moldings and plate trim in the pics are like the stock 7 Series moldings.
Question:
Is there an option to look like or use M5 stock moldings and plate trim (pics below)?

In these pictures they are using M5 moldings, unlike mine which use the original 7 moldings, Im my post i spoke of being able to convert to the M5 Style molding if u want, however i haven't tried it as yet and even though the body shop thinks it could be done. I spoke to the my guys that make them and they say possible not 100% sure though. Those pic's are what i based my design on.

BlackWolf
10-16-2007, 11:01 AM
I might have missed this, but are you guys thinking of creating a package deal and price?

Inclusive: Front (optional splitters) and rear bumpers with side skirts

This is what I would be interested in.. I am no rush, so I could wait till the side skirts are ready for production.

thanks

nicky51
10-16-2007, 05:33 PM
Very, very nice work... Its coming together nicely.. I personally prefer the stock moulding of the seven. I do have a couple of questions. Will you be selling the front before anything else, or will you wait until you are done with the complete kit before any sales go on? The other is, i know you said the second design is lower than the first. Can you tell me a measurement possibly FROM TOP TO BOTTOM of the second design so i have an idea? iM SURE YOUR GOING THROUGH ALOT OF WORK PUTTING THIS together and im sure im not the only one who appreciates your efforts.. Thanks..:redspot

Md750
10-16-2007, 07:11 PM
Very, very nice work... Its coming together nicely.. I personally prefer the stock moulding of the seven. I do have a couple of questions. Will you be selling the front before anything else, or will you wait until you are done with the complete kit before any sales go on? The other is, i know you said the second design is lower than the first. Can you tell me a measurement possibly FROM TOP TO BOTTOM of the second design so i have an idea? iM SURE YOUR GOING THROUGH ALOT OF WORK PUTTING THIS together and im sure im not the only one who appreciates your efforts.. Thanks..:redspot
ditto! i/we really appreciate the work you're doing.

04SSHD
10-16-2007, 07:42 PM
I thought it would look like rice in the first pics, but when I saw them on your car I must say the look good! Nice work!

JT///M3
10-16-2007, 07:52 PM
wow, that front M5 look bumper without the splitter is really sexy. I'm subscribing to this. Possible front bumper for me in the future! keep us posted!

BMW5868
10-16-2007, 08:51 PM
Very, very nice work... Its coming together nicely.. I personally prefer the stock moulding of the seven. I do have a couple of questions. Will you be selling the front before anything else, or will you wait until you are done with the complete kit before any sales go on? The other is, i know you said the second design is lower than the first. Can you tell me a measurement possibly FROM TOP TO BOTTOM of the second design so i have an idea? iM SURE YOUR GOING THROUGH ALOT OF WORK PUTTING THIS together and im sure im not the only one who appreciates your efforts.. Thanks..:redspot

The 2nd design is 15" top to bottom, the first design is 12" add the splitter 2" more. Everything is done now except for the side skirts but they will take about 2-3 days to fix up. I have been focusing on the frt mostly so i can fit the intercooler and redo the water injection and port out the heads the rear is done and had more demand but that changing as i am getting a lot of requests for the frt as well. Just waiting for TxDarth to get get his rr cover to check out the quality before i move ahead with making more. Hopefully he will like it. It is aftermarket so it will never be as good as factory but i didnt cheap out with product, i can even do it in carbon fiber now. $$$

farhod
10-16-2007, 09:36 PM
yea id also like to thank you for going through all this to give a quality product to the e38 guys! Thanks Mike!!

Mossive
10-16-2007, 10:12 PM
looks excellent! not enought e38 products out there!

m5james
10-17-2007, 02:24 PM
The 2nd design is 15" top to bottom, the first design is 12" add the splitter 2" more. Everything is done now except for the side skirts but they will take about 2-3 days to fix up. I have been focusing on the frt mostly so i can fit the intercooler and redo the water injection and port out the heads the rear is done and had more demand but that changing as i am getting a lot of requests for the frt as well. Just waiting for TxDarth to get get his rr cover to check out the quality before i move ahead with making more. Hopefully he will like it. It is aftermarket so it will never be as good as factory but i didnt cheap out with product, i can even do it in carbon fiber now. $$$

CF?! Now that would be :boobies

board57796
10-17-2007, 03:34 PM
the third pic is the sickest:alright i have ever seen! my wife doesnt make me as hard as that car does!:eyecrazy:eyecrazy:eyecrazy:eyecrazy:eyecrazy

:eek2

:D

TxDarth
10-17-2007, 08:35 PM
CF?! Now that would be :boobies



Carbon Fiber - if you want diet version.:D

m5james
10-17-2007, 08:38 PM
It's just be cool to leave certain areas the natural CF, like the whole area between the exhaust tips, I've seen it done before w/ add on rear splitters for the M5. I'd really like to see a CF hood for us w/ some vents just above the S/C, kinda like the M5/M3 have available to them. Hell, anything to reduce the weight in this car.

SE7EN40RTY
10-21-2007, 04:25 PM
Any update on these bumpers? I'm very interested in this and will purchase some for sure. Lets get some pictures up bro!!!!! haha. thanks sorry for the trouble.

BMW5868
10-21-2007, 07:58 PM
Rear Bumper should arrive at TxDarth this week, everything except the side skirts are done. New 2nd design frt cover being fitted to my car, a few issue but everything is now fitting properly. Just fabricating some guide brackets and its off to prep & paint.

humanite
10-21-2007, 08:37 PM
It's just be cool to leave certain areas the natural CF, like the whole area between the exhaust tips, I've seen it done before w/ add on rear splitters for the M5. I'd really like to see a CF hood for us w/ some vents just above the S/C, kinda like the M5/M3 have available to them. Hell, anything to reduce the weight in this car.

Here are some Carbon fiber pieces that would be real nice for the E38.

SE7EN40RTY
10-21-2007, 10:30 PM
not on a 7 series man! hahaha come on. I'm just messing.. I feel everyone is entitled to do what they wish with their own car. Since it's all perspective.

ccmdoc
10-24-2007, 06:15 AM
I would get the splitter even if I did not use it.
Because I need to see it in person and it is the way the Hamann M Kit (pics below) was and that car looks sick.

The moldings and plate trim in the pics are like the stock 7 Series moldings.
Question:
Is there an option to look like or use M5 stock moldings and plate trim (pics below)?

With this kit it is possible to re-create the Hamann M7. As you can see from my version, the M5 moldings can be installed without any difficulty.

I want to commend BMW5868 for stepping in and saving the parts for this project. In their original form these pieces were problematic and required a significant amount of prep and fine tuning and in some case 'customizing' to get the proper fit. Not to mention actually offering them to us at a very fair price.
Thanks again.

m5james
10-24-2007, 07:57 PM
x2....thanks BMW5868. I'm excited when the "final" versions will be done.

BMW5868
10-28-2007, 09:08 PM
Well TxDarth received his rear cover last week, but i havent heard back since he got it so i'm waiting to see what he has to say about it. Roger?

familycar
10-28-2007, 10:17 PM
ccmdoc.. amazing car! bmw5868, you're making it hard to keep the mod bug contained to my STi :o impresive mod list you got there

TxDarth
10-29-2007, 05:51 PM
Alright here is my take on Mike’s bumper (rear).......

As most of you know I was an early sucker of Justin Pandelo’s attempt on the “M”style bumpers. Let me start by saying this is NOT that type of product…this one I will put on my car.

I spoke with Mike about several concerns that I still had and he said they would be addressed as well.

1st – this is not a paint and install product as it stands at this point as he has not had the time for this yet. He said he has been approached to do that version later as time permits but the cost will increase as well and it should, this is a very good price for what you get. There are several areas of concern on this version which should be noted – I think ALL can be corrected fairly easy.

2nd – the trouble spots are as follows:

---- the exhaust cut outs are not even but will only impact those using single tips. By this I mean the passenger side is about 3/8 inch smaller/lower than the driver’s side. If you have dual tips you will cut all this area out anyway so this will not be a problem.

-----the tow hook opening on the one he sent me is distorted slightly on the bottom left side, it will require some fill and reshaping. I also have a concern that the stock cap (which must be reused) has a definite horizontal bend in the middle – the new “M” style bumper does not. Mike said his cap worked fine so I will take his word for this.

----the last and most concerning area is the top edge of the bumper which mates to the car and will create the “gap”, similar to a door gap, is uneven as it sits now. Mike says this bumper is made from polyfiberglass and as such is flexible, unlike regular fiberglass. He said that you can actually heat the glass with a heat gun and reshape. Currently the center of the bumper (for about 24 inches) is ¼ inch higher than the corners and side edges of the bumper. Mike said that once you fit it to the bumper form/support behind the bumper and heat if necessary – all is fine and the fit will be there.

----with this version you will also need to reuse the current metal trim – either chrome or painted from your car along with the black rub strips. I don’t see how you can use the M 5 style strips here without a LOT of glass reworking and sanding. It is formed for the stock wrap around type from our 740/750s. Mounting will require about an hour or so of cleaning up with a Dremel tool according to Mike – the mounting slots and access holes are not cut out and they will need to be for mounting the rub strips, etc. Even if it is twice that it would be acceptable at the price.

Now my overall impression – it has come a LONG way! Is it perfect - no. Is it priced right, definitely. If you are a DIY guy, you can do it – if not take to your body shop, it should not break the bank to have it finished, painted and installed. It will be nice when finished and it WILL change the look of your car.

Thanks Mike, you have got a product that no one else could or would take the time to make for our e38s.
:alright:alright:alright

series
10-29-2007, 05:54 PM
Nice work!

BMW5868
10-29-2007, 06:12 PM
I have spoken to Roger and read his review, & yes i know about these areas of concern but are not insurmountable, just so everyone understands when the cover is removed from the mold, it is semi-rigid and subject to some distrotion, unavoidable, however it is easy to remedy and fix. As Roger ssys if u are good DIY and have the time it is easy to do if not a good Body Shop should have no problem doing the install. Roger & I will exchange some pic's so we can address any issues on the fitment & finish. Hopefully Roger will have some time in the few days to do some fitment and will have some more feedback.

TxDarth
10-29-2007, 09:09 PM
Here is an addition to my post avove...some of the pics on my findings.

I posted them on my write up over on BB - it is much easier to post pics over there and no size restrictions but I chose autosize anyway...

http://www.bimmerboard.com/forums/posts/433022

SE7EN40RTY
10-31-2007, 04:59 AM
so..... if i wanted to order this kit........ what's the next step? haha

BMW5868
11-01-2007, 10:23 PM
This is were i'm at with everything, my shops are starting to get crazy busy up here, so my time to spend on this is limited. The rear cover will be ready to go in two weeks, if you want rear only i can ship in about 3 weeks, will have to know what rear exhaust set up u require - dual exhaust - dual tailpipe, dual exhaust - single tailpipe. Front cover first design without splitter is also ready, splitter has to be refitted and will be ready in 2-3 week. i am still fitting mine (2nd Design and should have it ready in about 2 weeks if i can make some time.

NiTe740iS
01-31-2008, 05:47 PM
TTT.
waiting patiently!!!! :redspot

boystuff
01-31-2008, 06:48 PM
I was curious if you could get me a quote for the full kit shown currently on your vehicle in the images? Would like it fully finished and willing to pay to have it painted to match the vehicle (Orient Blue) Also I have a iL do you have longer side skirts available?
(Dual Exhaust single pipe outlet on each side)
Shipping would be to Wa zip 98037

slowpokebimmer
01-31-2008, 07:31 PM
first off, great job. but i do have one question, for the side skirts, will you be making an iL fitment? and hows everything going with the second design on the front bumper?

rome2001
02-01-2008, 01:11 AM
how much for th ewhole setup

NiTe740iS
02-01-2008, 08:50 PM
ttt...

slowpokebimmer
02-01-2008, 09:23 PM
any updates? also, i just re read part of this thread and saw that you mentioned the idea of cf parts. would you be able to make the splitter in cf? if so how much would that run? if you can send me a quote for the full kit including sideskirts to 91733 ca that would be great. hopefully you will have the iL side skirt fitment for this kit...

nordmann
02-17-2008, 12:17 AM
Please quote for a complete kit in Carbon and Kevlar . Front in second style , Sides for 740i sport , and Rear with dual twin tailpipes . Are a rear wing and Vorsteiner style engine cover contemplated ?

BMW5868
02-19-2008, 02:32 PM
Been out of the loop last couple of months, but i have started back on the bumpers, and engine overhaul, porting an polishing heads, finishing frt bumper, 2nd design and have mounted the intercooler in place. Pic's to come. However i may have some bad news - the guy doing the covers went on vacations (abroad) and i havent heard or been able to get ahold of him for almost 1 1/2 months as well he still has one of my rear cover and the molds. Havent had time to pass by his shop but thats next. Hopefully i will get ahold of him and be able to get some positive response.

04SSHD
02-19-2008, 03:13 PM
I might be interested in a rear bumper, what's the shipping cost to the states?

BMW5868
02-20-2008, 12:26 AM
Last one to texas was $60.00 + $20.00 for pkg. (bubble wrap and cardboard protect) hopefully i will have something to ship. Will see what happens.

manithemoneyman
02-20-2008, 12:32 AM
I'm interested in that rear bumper too...

humanite
03-27-2008, 01:58 PM
Anything new going on? Any kits for sale.

Thanks,
Dan

bayaas
04-08-2008, 01:51 PM
Very nice work man!

very interested to buy one kit from you. (when you have them avadeble) What is the price on the kit?

m5james
04-08-2008, 01:59 PM
This is a more recent thread I think that might give more information. http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=973574

These are some questions I asked, but BMW5868 been busy since business is finally pickin up again.

Are all imperfections worked out of the bumpers now, or do they still need little things like the hole around the towhook repaired, etc.

From the first set of pics to the second set of pics it looks like the hole for the exhaust tips has widened.

I have the Magnaflow 14816, so i'd like to not have to rework the openings since it looks like the sides of the opening are closed where the bumper wraps underneath the car.

Are you making the side skirts in iL? Last I recall you were only doing the i wheelbase cars.

For the foglight openings, does it come w/ foglights or that black plastic ring in this picture? http://bmw5868.zoints.com/album/?imgid=63808

Do you have before and after pics of what'd we'd need to the backside of the bumper...i'm mechanically inclined, but I wanna see what i'm getting myself into.

I don't remember what you've said they're made out of, but would they happen to be polypropelyne or something durable like the ones in this thread? http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...d.php?t=933188 For $150 they're including the bumper strips, are you doing the same?