View Full Version : DIY: Rear M5 sway bar install


Jackcat559
09-22-2007, 08:29 PM
I'll tell ya right up front. My car started life as a non-sport 2003 530i. After 145,000 miles she cornered like a 1950's Buick. The srings and shocks were changed which did help a lot. She just needed a bit less roll in the corners.

So the options were Dinan, Eibach and someone else... Doesn't really matter who. They were all in excess of $450+ for their kits. Definatly that $$$ is not in the budget this close to X-Mas.

The rear M5 sway bar with new brakets bolts and bushing set me back $130 at the dealer. The bar looks to be at least 4mm thicker than the stock 530 bar.

I or anyone else will NOT take ANY responsibility if you screw up your car when following these directions in this easy DIY.

You will need:
1- To be sober, definatly sober.
2- an alignment when finished is recommended
3- good hydraulic jack ( or ramps )
4- 16mm cresent wrech
5- 16mm or 3/8 socket wrench
6- 13mm socket wrench
7- 13mm cresent wrench
8- jack stands ( if using jack )
9- wheel chucks
10- creeper ( not nessary but very useful )
11- M5 sway bar ( part# 33 55 2 229 136 ) and appropriate rubber bushings
12- Bently manual for added security
13- small needle nose plyers

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e235/Jackcat559/107-0799_IMG.jpg
Place wheel chucks around front wheels.
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e235/Jackcat559/108-0802_IMG.jpg
Jack up the car as the Bentley manual says, but doesn't say how. I used the differential which is not the correct place, but no one could say where the appropriate place was. I used an old thick towel to soften the jack. Ramps may be a viable alternative.
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e235/Jackcat559/108-0801_IMG.jpg
Place jack stands under jack pads. Pads are directly in front of rear wheels.
Lower car slowly onto stands. Be sure they are correctly on the pads. BE CAREFUL!!!

Here is the sway bar. It should look very similar to the new one. Visually compare them before unbolting anything.
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e235/Jackcat559/108-0805_IMG.jpg

Use 13mm wrench & 13 socket wrech the loosen / remove this bolt first.
The top of the braket is held in place via a tongue and groove system. Leave the bushings on the bar. Don not move / remove bushings from the bar. You will see why later.
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e235/Jackcat559/108-0803_IMG.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e235/Jackcat559/108-0813_IMG.jpg

Use 16mm socket and 16mm cresent wrench to rmove the sway bar link bolt.
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e235/Jackcat559/108-0804_IMG.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e235/Jackcat559/108-0821_IMG.jpg

Ah ha, the Bently manual doesn't tell you this! Place the cresent wrench as shown in the pic. It's hard to even see in person. The backside of the bolt has 2 flat spots to keep it from spinning.
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e235/Jackcat559/108-0822_IMG.jpg

All the nut & bolts undone. Time to wiggle to old sway bar from it's home.
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e235/Jackcat559/108-0823_IMG.jpg

The old & new.
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e235/Jackcat559/108-0824_IMG.jpg

Place new bushings in the same spot on the new bar, as they were located on the old bar.
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e235/Jackcat559/108-0827_IMG.jpg

Reassemble by following the steps in reverse.

Oh, the small needle nose plyers. If by some chance the sway bar link boots came off while using your 16mm cresent wrench, use the plyers to pop the boots back into place. It is hard to see, but the boot is held in place with a nipple and small rubber band system. Do not leave the link exposed.

Fin.
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e235/Jackcat559/108-0829_IMG.jpg

Good Luck.

Now if someone is daring enough to try. There seems to be 2 different M package FRONT sway bars for the 6 cylinders, which can't use the M5 front sway. They seem to differ in size only. Here's the link for part numbers if you would like to give it a go http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=DT63&mospid=47587&btnr=31_0257&hg=31&fg=10 It looks to be a jump in size from the standard 22.5mm to 24mm & 25mm.

Jamaican71
09-22-2007, 11:19 PM
So how does she ride now? Any noticable difference? I agree with you about the $450 vs. $130. I will definitely consider this route as opposed to the Eibach package.

BTW that is one clean undercarriage!!

e39dream
09-22-2007, 11:28 PM
did you paint your rear subframe and arms black??

Jackcat559
09-23-2007, 07:38 AM
did you paint your rear subframe and arms black??


Yes. I was following my wife home one day while she was driving the car, and saw how the bare metal of the subframe & carrier stood out. It may sound a bit prissy, but the bare metal and the road grim just looked nasty and incomplete. Kinda like they foegot to paint it.

So, two weeks ago we scrubbed it down, primered and painted it. Anything that could be seen from behind that was bare metal was done. Everything else such the exhaust, rubber bushings, etc was taped off.

Jackcat559
09-23-2007, 07:52 AM
Hey mods how about an e39 DIY section. I've got diff and engine oil changes comming up soon. :)

PJB
09-24-2007, 05:53 PM
Hey mods how about an e39 DIY section. I've got diff and engine oil changes comming up soon. :)

+1 I think we need that!

brandon5069
09-24-2007, 06:10 PM
Did the M5 sway help dial out some of the cars built in understeer?

Jackcat559
09-24-2007, 06:25 PM
I haven't had a chance to relly push her yet. In general yes, and a much flatter feel cornering. It definatlygave the car a sportier feel with less roll. Money and time well spent. A definate recomendation to anyone.

BlackSapphire
09-24-2007, 07:20 PM
Did the M5 sway help dial out some of the cars built in understeer?

I'm hoping for this very thing. I just ordered my M5 bar and busings from Max.

dmako
09-26-2007, 12:18 PM
Great write up! Also going to order from Max as a winter project.

Now I was going to use ramps vs. jacking up car, any issues with that?

brandon5069
09-26-2007, 12:44 PM
I haven't had a chance to relly push her yet. In general yes, and a much flatter feel cornering. It definatlygave the car a sportier feel with less roll. Money and time well spent. A definate recomendation to anyone.

You push her yet???

12CoolDude
09-26-2007, 01:13 PM
I have the M-sport package so I assume I already have the 24 or 25 mm sway bar...correct?

cramer
09-26-2007, 01:27 PM
Nice write up on the install!

Be sure to keep an eye on those sway bar brackets, with the larger M5 bar, they like to break with the additional stress. Replaced mine with the thicker upgraded ones after the passenger side broke in two pieces (this is a common M5 problem).

BlackSapphire
09-26-2007, 01:46 PM
I have the M-sport package so I assume I already have the 24 or 25 mm sway bar...correct?

Negative, you do not have an M5 sway bar unless you put one on it.

First of all, the rear sway bar is 14mm on your M-Tech and 16mm on the M5.

Also, In reference to Jackcats, original post:

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Now if someone is daring enough to try. There seems to be 2 different M package FRONT sway bars. They seem to differ in size only. It looks to be a jump in size from the standard 22.5mm to 24mm & 25mm.

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Yeah, it shows those two for the M-Tech. However, the M5 shows 27mm. Why wouldn't you go that route? M5 front and rear rather than M-Tech front and M5 rear? :confused

brandon5069
09-26-2007, 02:10 PM
Nice write up on the install!

Be sure to keep an eye on those sway bar brackets, with the larger M5 bar, they like to break with the additional stress. Replaced mine with the thicker upgraded ones after the passenger side broke in two pieces (this is a common M5 problem).

Cost on the upgraded brackets?

cramer
09-26-2007, 02:27 PM
couple ways you can go,

Rogue $50 http://www.rogueengineering.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=SBBR.E39&Category_Code=

TCD $120 (I've seen these else where for cheaper, but can't recall off the top of my head) http://www.beastpower.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=BMI&Product_Code=TC-BE39-RSBB

I think Dinan also has a upgraded bracket, but didn't see it on their site.

bimmerfiver
09-26-2007, 02:30 PM
Negative, you do not have an M5 sway bar unless you put one on it.

First of all, the rear sway bar is 14mm on your M-Tech and 16mm on the M5.

Also, In reference to Jackcats, original post:

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Now if someone is daring enough to try. There seems to be 2 different M package FRONT sway bars. They seem to differ in size only. It looks to be a jump in size from the standard 22.5mm to 24mm & 25mm.

<end paste>

Yeah, it shows those two for the M-Tech. However, the M5 shows 27mm. Why wouldn't you go that route? M5 front and rear rather than M-Tech front and M5 rear? :confused

In Dan-speak, M5 rear sway bar fit and work good, M5 front sway bar no work, no fit.

brandon5069
09-26-2007, 02:30 PM
couple ways you can go,

Rogue $50 http://www.rogueengineering.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=SBBR.E39&Category_Code=

TCD $120 (I've seen these else where for cheaper, but can't recall off the top of my head) http://www.beastpower.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=BMI&Product_Code=TC-BE39-RSBB

I think Dinan also has a upgraded bracket, but didn't see it on their site.

Perfect! Thanks!

I'm currently in the market for an M5 sway. Used should be fine....
Anybody have a lead?

Jackcat559
09-26-2007, 05:19 PM
Great write up! Also going to order from Max as a winter project.

Now I was going to use ramps vs. jacking up car, any issues with that?


I don't know. The Bently manual says to jack up the car. After doing the DIY I don't see why ramps can't be used.


Also, In reference to Jackcats, original post:

<begin paste>

Now if someone is daring enough to try. There seems to be 2 different M package FRONT sway bars. They seem to differ in size only. It looks to be a jump in size from the standard 22.5mm to 24mm & 25mm.

<end paste>

Yeah, it shows those two for the M-Tech. However, the M5 shows 27mm. Why wouldn't you go that route? M5 front and rear rather than M-Tech front and M5 rear? :confused

The 6 cylindrs can't use the M5 front sway. Most of the talk for these cars has been a bout a full kit, or only the M5 rear sway. The reference in the original post was for these cars specifically (original DIY post has been edited to clarify this). The 540 can use the M5 front sway bar

BlackSapphire
09-27-2007, 09:53 AM
I don't know. The Bently manual says to jack up the car. After doing the DIY I don't see why ramps can't be used.



The 6 cylindrs can't use the M5 front sway. Most of the talk for these cars has been a bout a full kit, or only the M5 rear sway. The reference in the original post was for these cars specifically (original DIY post has been edited to clarify this). The 540 can use the M5 front sway bar

Cool Jackcat, thanks for clarifying. Great post, great pics!

bimmerfiver
09-27-2007, 10:09 AM
1). I'm ready to drive down to MD to have the underside of my car detailed FTW.

2). We need to hear the impact/change this had on your car's handling!

sunnywala
09-27-2007, 04:19 PM
1). I'm ready to drive down to MD to have the underside of my car detailed FTW.

2). We need to hear the impact/change this had on your car's handling!

yes i would like to know also

Jackcat559
09-27-2007, 04:27 PM
Wow fellas! We have been doing a lot of work on the car in the past few months, and it's just easier to perform the job car when she's clean.

( cam shaft sensors, headers, differential, springs, etc..)

Probably going to take the car out tonight for a drive and snap some pics of her in the her natural enviorment. :ponder

bimmerfiver
09-27-2007, 06:10 PM
Wow fellas! We have been doing a lot of work on the car in the past few months, and it's just easier to perform the job car when she's clean.

( cam shaft sensors, headers, differential, springs, etc..)

Probably going to take the car out tonight for a drive and snap some pics of her in the her natural enviorment. :ponder

Let me be clear, we wanna know about this M5 rear sway bar (cause some of us ordered one recently and will install very soon *cough*). We're looking for you to go out and push the snot out of your car, then let us know your thoughts. The only pic we want is from the driver's seat of your car being raced through corners and curves. :)

Detailed undercarriage is FTW! Nice.

Edit: We also need you to get stainless steel brake lines to complete that undercarriage. Then, the circle will be complete.

Htownmobaudio
09-27-2007, 06:11 PM
Is this mod highly recomended for 97 e39 540's front and rear ?

bimmerfiver
09-27-2007, 06:13 PM
Is this mod highly recomended for 97 e39 540's front and rear ?

Yes. :buttrock

New suspension and beefy sway bars = :redspot

Jackcat559
09-27-2007, 06:25 PM
ok ok

bimmerfiver
10-06-2007, 03:04 PM
Okay, the OP layed out how to do it (including getting his undercarriage sexied up, nice paint work there!) and I can tell you the results...

We installed an M5 rear sway bar with new sway bar bushings and rear sway bar links FTW!!!

Let me try to explain the change in the car with an M5 rear sway bar. Firstly, I have a 525, not the powerhouse, but nimble and with a nifty suspension; the addition of the M5 rear sway was my final piece to the puzzle. I currently run a staggered set of wheels (17/8, 17/9).

Driving straight, it seems the car's suspension feels tighter overall, the steering wheel feels diffent. Turns? By tightening up the rear, helping to reduce understeer (the lazy turn) you can feel the decreased level of overall body roll, you can feel the inside rear wheel digging better in turns and the transfer of that digging sent to the front outside wheel. You can feel the glue in all four of your tires working.

Next mod? A Triflow muffler FTW.

FYI:

http://www.zeckhausen.com/swaybar_replacement.htm


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Understeer.svg/442px-Understeer.svg.png (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/34/Understeer.svg)

Jackcat559
10-06-2007, 03:13 PM
Thanks man. That about sums it up.

pegglegg007
10-06-2007, 03:28 PM
I did this mod a few months ago and the difference was amazing on clover leafs. A few months prior to my sway bar I spent a lot of money upgrading to eibach springs, bilstein sport struts/shocks, new control arms, links, ect. I was impressed after the suspension, but WOWED after the lowly sway bar upgrade.

Those of you thinking you want a sportier ride... I'd suggest trying the sway bar 1st, then if you need more upgrade the rest. It's a cheap and easy project for any DIY and the rewards are worth every penny spent.

dmako
10-06-2007, 04:24 PM
Do you need to replace the links or was this done for some other reason? I figure just the bar and bushing are required.

bimmerfiver
10-06-2007, 04:26 PM
Do you need to replace the links or was this done for some other reason? I figure just the bar and bushing are required.

True. I replaced my links as they were shot already.

jotsuka
12-18-2007, 08:21 PM
great write up defin need to do this for my 98' 528i... so you say you start with the front sway first? what about front and back? just do it all at once I guess is what im saying... also are stress bars important or more for looks?

fragzem
03-16-2008, 07:15 AM
You will need:
1- To be sober, definatly sober.



I was thinking of doing this until you said that!! :devillook

LuvMy328is
03-27-2008, 02:06 AM
Sold!
~Phil

Busta
04-18-2008, 03:09 PM
Thanks for the write-up. Install was a breeze.

adjmcloon
04-18-2008, 04:03 PM
One more satisfied customer. This mod was worth it and install wasn't bad at all.

Jackcat559
05-10-2008, 09:02 AM
Glad to hear of the good results!