View Full Version : FS: '99 M3 - 410 WHP 338 TRQ Eurosport Twin Screw and much more...


///M3///M5
09-22-2007, 02:56 PM
Price Dropped ---> $31,200

New Pictures in post #28

Also, if you are interested in the car at all please PM me with an offer

Most of you guys know my current dilemma from this thread:

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=829701

Well the part out seems like it is going well and I have had a lot of interest in everything that I listed in that thread. Not real bits yet, except on the LTW Splitter. On the other side of things, I have received a lot of PMs about selling the entire car. After thinking it over, this seems like a feasible option. I doubt I will ever turn the car back into what is it now, so why keep it? In reality, it would probably be too painful. :(

I am also not going to be leary of listing the price where I think it should be. I have done a cost and profit anaylsis and figured out what it will take to make it a better option to sell the car as it is. I did not include all my mods, only the major ones. I also priced them at values that I have already been offered. In other words, I am not interested in losing too much money by selling the car 'as is'. If there is no market, I will simply part it out. It would also be nice to save myself the headache of all the labor involved too.

On the purpose of the thread:

The car is a 1999 E36 M3. I bought it in June of 2003 with 43,000 miles on it. It currently has 85,000 miles on the chassis. The car has always been very very well maintained and has been garage kept for the past two years. All fluids have been changed regularly (coolant yearly and oil every 3k). All common problems are fixed, such as PS leaks, RSM failure, RTABS, etc. Maintenance is not reallly an issue one would have to worry about on this car. If it can be replaced, it has. The head is also freshly rebuilt with new seals and guides. The VANOS has been recently replaced. ALL sensors have been replaced within the last 2000 miles (Cam position, crank, O2, knocks, etc).

The motor has always been very strong and I have been through the full spectrum of mods with it. When the car was NA it made 265 WHP and 245 WTRQ.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/Thomas614/DSC01659.jpg

In August of last year it became a ES TS M3. At that time it had Schricks cams and AA headers, track pipe, and Gen III. It made 360 WHP and 295 WTRQ. After lots and lots of work it stands where it does today (actually made 409 and 338 on a different run):

http://mthreemfive.com/Images/Breaking400.JPG

It was the first in the nation at this power level. Now there is one more (agu825), but I built that car also. The car's power delivery is UNREAL. It is a complete beast. The only car I have ever had pull on me was Rafa's Turbo S52. He was on race gas at the time and making over 450 WTRQ. When on a base tune and pump gas, I have pulled on him. There are several people to attest to the ability and power of the car and if anyone wants a reference, just PM me. I installed the same kit on 'agu825' or Art's car and he would also be a good reference. Either way, this car easily competes with Porsche TTs, Z06s, M5s, ect. It very easy to drive and a complete blast. There is traction in every gear except 1st due to the 'table top' torque curve (super linear). At the same time, it pulls HARD in any gear. When driving stock M3s in first, it really feels like my 3rd gear. It is a real blast everytime I get in the car. Enough of my hoop-la, I think other people will post and reaffirm what i have said.

Basic Mod List (not trying to play around and list every little thing):

Engine:
Custom Eurosport Twin Screw Supercharger (~410 WHP/ ~338 WTRQ)
Custom Pulley (~9.5-10 psi)
42# Injectors
.098 MLS Head Gasket
Custom TRM Tuning
Schrick Exhaust (256) Camshaft
UUC Underdrive Pulleys
Carbon Conforti CIA
AA Gen 3 Exhaust
Porsche TT 3.5” HFM
ASC Delete
Performance Organic Stage II M5 clutch
UUC Stage II Flywheel

Suspension:
Zimmerman Cross Drilled Rotors w/ Axis Ultimates
Ground Control Track/School Coilovers (450/500)
Koni Custom Valved Shocks
Ground Control Camber/Caster Plates
OE X-Brace
UUC RTABs
Poly Bushings

Exterior:
GT2 Class II OE Wing
OE LTW Splitter
Stock Headlights, but have a set of Delensed DEPOs going with the car
Gunmetal Motorsport Flag
35% Tint
Cosmos Black Moldings
Cosmos Black Kidneys
Cosmos Black Fog Light Delete
Euro Tail Lights
18 x 8 BBS LM’s

Interior:
OE M-Tech Vaders, panels, and rears (Black Alcantara and M-Stripe Cloth)
Alcantara A, B, and C pillars
Alcantara Headliner and Sunroof Liner
Hamann Shift Knob
Active Autowerke SSK
PLX Devices M-300
Autometer Boost and AFR Gauge
BMW OE TrafficPro
Momo Evo Race Wheel
OE LTW Seat Belts

I'm going to wash her up and get some more pictures today or tomorrow, but I will post some more below just as reference. Most are older and do not show all current mods.

The only negatives to the car:

-There is a very small dent in the roof. It can easily be pulled though.
-No keyless entry
-No cruse control

This car has made quite a reputation for itself around the forums and community and it truely pains me to sell it. At the same time, it is the logical thing to do right now. Like I said above, I am only interested in selling the car if I can make around the same amount as I would parting it out. I am obviously open to offers, but will hassle through the labor of parting it out to get the money I think it is worth. I believe the price I have come up with is fair and a reflection of what I would get if I were to part it out and then sell the stock car (that is not including the fact that there no such thing as a TS kit as what I valued this one at, you cannot get what this one provides for 10k anywhere). Not only that, but this car carries a reputation and a history of being a 'first' in many ways

Bottom line, I am asking:

$31,200 OBO

I will also provide $300 to someone that provide me with a buyer

Some older pictures:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/Thomas614/IMG_0195.jpg

http://mthreemfive.com/Images/1.jpg

http://mthreemfive.com/Images/2.jpg

http://mthreemfive.com/Images/CDC.sized/5.jpg

http://mthreemfive.com/Images/CDC.sized/7.jpg

http://mthreemfive.com/Images/CDC.sized/14.jpg

http://mthreemfive.com/Images/LTW2.jpg

sausrigging
09-22-2007, 09:44 PM
Holy cross post madness!:shifty

ishkabobble55
09-22-2007, 10:19 PM
that is a beautiful car, gl with the sale

KarlSpackler
09-23-2007, 01:50 AM
Good luck Thomas, I sure would like to see it go down the 1320 to see what your trap is

///M3///M5
09-23-2007, 11:41 AM
I am open to offers guys. :D

Good luck Thomas, I sure would like to see it go down the 1320 to see what your trap is

Me too. I just drove her today in some decently cool weather and forgot how fast she is when the temp is not 98 degrees. :buttrock

m3jasper
09-23-2007, 03:07 PM
Sucks you have to let her go, but sometimes you really don't have a choice. Best of luck with the sale.

The car is truly unique and deserves the asking price, no questions asked.

Sad to see it go. :(

///M3///M5
09-23-2007, 03:43 PM
Picture Update:

http://mthreemfive.com/Images/CarFS.sized/Car1.jpg

http://mthreemfive.com/Images/CarFS.sized/Car2.jpg

http://mthreemfive.com/Images/CarFS.sized/Car3.jpg

http://mthreemfive.com/Images/CarFS.sized/Car4.jpg

http://mthreemfive.com/Images/CarFS.sized/Car5.jpg

http://mthreemfive.com/Images/CarFS.sized/Dent1.jpg

http://mthreemfive.com/Images/CarFS.sized/Dent2.jpg

///M3///M5
09-25-2007, 03:01 AM
Price Dropped becuase I NEED to sell quickly.

$33,850 and $300 buyer finder cash.

spazegun2213
09-25-2007, 08:35 AM
wow that is a clean car, but there is something about selling a modded car that is nearly 10 years old for 30k+

good luck.

Jean-Claude
09-25-2007, 09:30 AM
Thomas has taken great care of this car. I've ridden in it and it's a monster.

///M3///M5
09-25-2007, 10:54 AM
Thomas has taken great care of this car. I've ridden in it and it's a monster.

Thanks JC! That was before the 400WHP too. :D

///M3///M5
09-27-2007, 10:32 AM
Bump

fishforlife
09-27-2007, 03:20 PM
trying to recoup all costs.....good luck with the sale

sausrigging
09-27-2007, 10:43 PM
trying to recoup all costs.....good luck with the sale
I always went with used parts values equaling 60% of new value, At THE MOST.
OP be prepared for a large loss. If you cant stomach it you should keep the car!:redspot

sausrigging
09-27-2007, 10:43 PM
Price Dropped becuase I NEED to sell quickly.

$33,850 and $300 buyer finder cash.
1% sellers fee:lol:nono

///M3///M5
09-27-2007, 11:06 PM
I always went with used parts values equaling 60% of new value, At THE MOST.
OP be prepared for a large loss. If you cant stomach it you should keep the car!:redspot

Try to find a ES TS, LTW splitter, Class II wing, OE Traffic Pro, or many of the other things on the car (interior, wheels) at 60% of their new value. Not going to happen.

I am not trying to recoupe my costs. I am trying to sell the car at a price around what I could get parting it out. That is by no means the same thing.

spazegun2213
09-28-2007, 09:41 AM
I always went with used parts values equaling 60% of new value, At THE MOST.
OP be prepared for a large loss. If you cant stomach it you should keep the car!:redspot


finally some sanity in this FS thread. I hate to say it to the OP but its the truth. i mean really would you buy a modded brot burner thats almost 10 years old for what the car sold for new?!?

lol, good luck.

sausrigging
09-28-2007, 02:09 PM
Try to find a ES TS, LTW splitter, Class II wing, OE Traffic Pro, or many of the other things on the car (interior, wheels) at 60% of their new value. Not going to happen.

I guess you were not taking your 'used costs' philosophy when you offered to trade me your lms for my 2k kinese's.
You would be LUCKY to get a return of 60 cents on the dollar for used mods. Sorry, but its true.

///M3///M5
09-28-2007, 03:21 PM
I guess you were not taking your 'used costs' philosophy when you offered to trade me your lms for my 2k kinese's.
You would be LUCKY to get a return of 60 cents on the dollar for used mods. Sorry, but its true.

I have already had offers on the ES TS for more than I bought it for, same with the splitter, wing, Traffic Pro, and interior. I am trying to avoid parting it out though. Parting would obviously be the best option, but not something that I am really interested in doing becuase of the amount of work involved.

In the mean time, if you don't have anything productive to say, just stay out of the thread please. My price justified to me based on what I can get parting it out. If you think that is high, so be it. I am not forcing anyone to buy the car. The price is what will prevent me from parting it out because it is how much money I can make doing so and selling the car 15k.

chisau
09-28-2007, 07:20 PM
FYI, my friend had issues here in ATL selling his 1993 TT 300zx widebody built by Z1 Motorsports (525whp). He finally sold it through a site called speed4sale or something like that. They sell other highly modified cars like Supra's and so on. Maybe you can give them a call?

One of the main issues with selling an older highly modded car is that the market for them is very specific to an enthusiast with alot of cash since they will not be able to get financed... Best of luck! Your's is definetely one of the best on this forum and your contribution will be missed! (I used your camshaft install vid!! Thanks again!):buttrock

I have already had offers on the ES TS for more than I bought it for, same with the splitter, wing, Traffic Pro, and interior. I am trying to avoid parting it out though. Parting would obviously be the best option, but not something that I am really interested in doing becuase of the amount of work involved.

In the mean time, if you don't have anything productive to say, just stay out of the thread please. My price justified to me based on what I can get parting it out. If you think that is high, so be it. I am not forcing anyone to buy the car. The price is what will prevent me from parting it out because it is how much money I can make doing so and selling the car 15k.

95RogueM3
09-28-2007, 07:44 PM
FYI, my friend had issues here in ATL selling his 1993 TT 300zx widebody built by Z1 Motorsports (525whp). He finally sold it through a site called speed4sale or something like that. They sell other highly modified cars like Supra's and so on. Maybe you can give them a call?
www.speedforsale.com is owned/operated by Jeremy Blackwell and seems like a good outfit. Im not sure whether or not they take any mark, but they specialize in Supra TTs and RX7s

The only downside there is he obviously takes a comission off the top.

///M3///M5
09-28-2007, 09:06 PM
Thanks guys!

Here are some more pictures from tonight:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/Thomas614/TS004.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/Thomas614/TS002.jpg

damnboy37
09-29-2007, 11:38 PM
That is one sweet moving machine.

Vitolo
09-30-2007, 08:05 PM
You guys need to stop giving formulas for what it should be worth. :rolleyes

It's worth what Thomas wants to sell it for, and what someone will pay. Just because YOU won't doesnt mean it's a bad deal...

This car is for someone who can appreciate the mods done. The value is that some really nice parts have already been sourced and installed, saving the next owner the headache of having to find rare stuff. Chances are someone who wants a twinscrew will want to modify the rest of the car too anyways, so if you add everything up it's a solid price for instant gratification.

Patrón
10-01-2007, 12:21 PM
You guys need to stop giving formulas for what it should be worth. :rolleyes

It's worth what Thomas wants to sell it for, and what someone will pay. Just because YOU won't doesnt mean it's a bad deal...

This car is for someone who can appreciate the mods done. The value is that some really nice parts have already been sourced and installed, saving the next owner the headache of having to find rare stuff. Chances are someone who wants a twinscrew will want to modify the rest of the car too anyways, so if you add everything up it's a solid price for instant gratification.

exactly
bump for a sweet car.

///M3///M5
10-02-2007, 10:46 AM
Bump

Vitolo
10-02-2007, 10:49 AM
Thomas, I emailed you last night. Please let me know

mr rolleyes
10-07-2007, 10:49 PM
Thomas, I emailed you last night. Please let me know


jv... did you offer him 20k:nono


bump for an amazing car, and gl with the sale.:buttrock

///M3///M5
10-18-2007, 01:17 AM
Price is now $31,200

///M3///M5
10-23-2007, 11:25 PM
bump

94is
10-24-2007, 09:13 PM
I love this car. A lot of the mods are very similar to mine, with the exception of that, um, 400hp. :D I'm sorry you're selling the car, it's one of my favorites. Good luck with the sale.

Btw, I really want that TS.

myrontabagoboy
10-24-2007, 09:30 PM
that's a great but can u tell me where u got the motorsport flag from

///M3///M5
10-24-2007, 09:43 PM
that's a great but can u tell me where u got the motorsport flag from

I must have made him a millionaire by now:

DSRugis

myrontabagoboy
10-24-2007, 09:49 PM
that's a store or can i google it

///M3///M5
10-24-2007, 09:50 PM
that's a store or can i google it

A user. PM him.

redline effect
10-24-2007, 09:54 PM
Really sorry to hear about this and everything thats going on in your life. Your car has been my favorite since ive been on this forum and looked forward to seeing new updates added to the car. If I had that amount of cash available, i'd purchase your car in a heartbeat.


To be completely honest I might have some buyers in my area or people seriously interested.


They say everything happens for a reason so just keep your head up and keep pushing forward. Hopefully one day you will have a sicker car or even another bmw and make us all jealous again. Till then take care of yourself and keep us all posted.

myrontabagoboy
10-24-2007, 10:01 PM
how can i get it touch with him

redline effect
10-24-2007, 10:02 PM
how can i get it touch with him

you have to private message him. go into your messages on the top right hand cover of the forum. Type in the user name he provided for you and ask him for the flag.

myrontabagoboy
10-24-2007, 10:04 PM
thanks and yes that car is amazing

Deadeye
10-25-2007, 05:40 PM
What kind of wing is that?

95///M3
10-25-2007, 06:45 PM
What kind of wing is that?

OEM Class2. Need one?

Justin(OKC)
10-27-2007, 08:11 PM
Nice car. I am in the same situation with my car that you are. I know I need to sell the car but I'm not going to dump it. Whoever buys it will have to appreciate what it is. Good luck!!!

BTW: If I were to find a LTW front splitter, I might just have to keep my car for a few more years!!! That thing is sweet.

blackm3
10-28-2007, 10:18 AM
You guys need to stop giving formulas for what it should be worth. :rolleyes

It's worth what Thomas wants to sell it for, and what someone will pay. Just because YOU won't doesnt mean it's a bad deal...

This car is for someone who can appreciate the mods done. The value is that some really nice parts have already been sourced and installed, saving the next owner the headache of having to find rare stuff. Chances are someone who wants a twinscrew will want to modify the rest of the car too anyways, so if you add everything up it's a solid price for instant gratification.

True dat...only if it's was imola red...would be sold already:D

GL Thomas!

///M3///M5
10-29-2007, 06:31 PM
Thanks guys!

Up again!

Vitolo
10-29-2007, 06:46 PM
Thomas, interior??

yellowbullet
10-29-2007, 08:39 PM
Thomas, did you get my last PM?

///M3///M5
11-04-2007, 02:36 PM
Last bump before I start parting it out...

94is
11-04-2007, 07:31 PM
Last bump before I start parting it out...
I can has your twinscrew?

///M3///M5
11-04-2007, 08:37 PM
You gots da PM. :D