Hey all. Thinking about buying an Autologic unit for when I move into my new location. These questions go out to those who have knowledge of how useful the unit is and also compared to other comparable units.

What features are lacking from the Autologic unit that say a dealership would have?

How functional is it?

For reflashing, how comprehensive is it for say... a performance reflash on a OBDII E36?

I was told the GT1 is not being supported. Are there any comparable systems out there?


Thanks!~

I don't have autologic, but frankly all the third party tools are lacking. They all proclaim to be the final solution.

"winkfp" can reflash control modules. It's functional equiv. the GT1 facility but you can more easily insert arbitrary firmware to flash. Also, KWP2000+, PAsoft, and cartune should be able to write flash.

For all around diagnosis & repairs GT1 is the best thing to have. The factory tells you it's unsupported, but there is unofficial support available from me and others.

im treading into unfamiliar territory... mind if I PM you?

Of course not!

The Autologic is the best aftermarket tool on the market, period. Don't waste your money with a BMW Factroy tool because they are always changing tools every few years. They also have excellent support when you have a problem.

The Autologic will do everything you can think of. I have used it for 3 years now. Call me at the shop if you want to talk about it.

336.931.0007

Carmine

The Autologic is the best aftermarket tool on the market, period. Don't waste your money with a BMW Factroy tool because they are always changing tools every few years. They also have excellent support when you have a problem.

The Autologic will do everything you can think of. I have used it for 3 years now. Call me at the shop if you want to talk about it.

336.931.0007

Carmine

Carmine, thanks I will give you a call.

My friend has the Autologic unit (for BMW and Mercedes) at his shop. While initially it appeared to be a great unit, I can no longer recommend it. The problems are:

- Lately, the tech support is non-existant. My friend has been calling them all this week, and the phone just rings and rings, with nobody answering.

- LOTS of features are missing. For example, I tried to retrofit and recode some modules in an E36, and it said that "this feature has not been implemented". WTF? It's advertised to do it.

- The Mercedes Benz diagnostics were woefully inadequate from the very beginning. Hardly anything worked, and the system needed constant updates for every little feature/function.

- No battery backup. If you power it from the car, and there's a voltage glitch (like starting the car), the unit will reboot. This really hampers productivity

The Autologic is the best aftermarket tool on the market, period. Don't waste your money with a BMW Factroy tool because they are always changing tools every few years. They also have excellent support when you have a problem.

The Autologic will do everything you can think of. I have used it for 3 years now. Call me at the shop if you want to talk about it.

336.931.0007

Carmine

I very surprised to hear you think the factory tool is a waste of money, we've been using a GT-1 in our shop for the last 5 years. The only changes that have been made was the addition of the Software Service Station for programming (the programming portion of the GT1, "CIP" was phased out around version 39.X). The SSS also works VERY well and makes the programming via OPPS (optical) possible. The GT1 has had 1 screen failure (touch screen) that occured at the beginning of this year and Siemens sent a replacment unit at a fraction (10%) of the original cost (after 5 years that seems reasonable).

Does the Autologic tool offer Test Plans? Is capable of programming via the MOST bus? These things have become critical if your a full service BMW shop.

My friend has the Autologic unit (for BMW and Mercedes) at his shop. While initially it appeared to be a great unit, I can no longer recommend it. The problems are:

- Lately, the tech support is non-existant. My friend has been calling them all this week, and the phone just rings and rings, with nobody answering.

- LOTS of features are missing. For example, I tried to retrofit and recode some modules in an E36, and it said that "this feature has not been implemented". WTF? It's advertised to do it.

- The Mercedes Benz diagnostics were woefully inadequate from the very beginning. Hardly anything worked, and the system needed constant updates for every little feature/function.

- No battery backup. If you power it from the car, and there's a voltage glitch (like starting the car), the unit will reboot. This really hampers productivity


Nick, if your friend needs help with anything coding/programming and it concerns a BMW or MB give me a call (you have my number, Santiago @ Ultimate) I'll be more then happy to help you.

i thought the Autologic Logic scanner was a excellent tool when i was working at a BMW specialist, Ours had a plug so u could power it from the mains so starting the car had no problems with it reseting/turning off. It will recode units on later cars that i was told by Bmw techs have to be recoded along with alot of the other ECU's,which obviously takes longer

My friend has the Autologic unit (for BMW and Mercedes) at his shop. While initially it appeared to be a great unit, I can no longer recommend it. The problems are:

- Lately, the tech support is non-existant. My friend has been calling them all this week, and the phone just rings and rings, with nobody answering.

- LOTS of features are missing. For example, I tried to retrofit and recode some modules in an E36, and it said that "this feature has not been implemented". WTF? It's advertised to do it.

- The Mercedes Benz diagnostics were woefully inadequate from the very beginning. Hardly anything worked, and the system needed constant updates for every little feature/function.

- No battery backup. If you power it from the car, and there's a voltage glitch (like starting the car), the unit will reboot. This really hampers productivity



you need to get the power pack adapater to plug into 110ac. then you can restart the cars. without loosing it.

i use an autologic for bmw/merc. at first, Merc sucked but they are updating it pretty good and its almost as functional as the bmw software, which is great. (i was able to on a 2007 ml 350 code 6 different control modules without problem on a car that got the battery hooked up backwards ((sweet!))

i havent had a problem with bmw on anything yet. if you do, just call em up they wil get to u pretty quick.

one rant about autologic is you have to buy new car models... we had to pay extra when the new 6 series came out. i was pissed. its alot of money for autologic too. we have 20,000 tied up in it with both softwares, and we still have to pay a big yearly fee. (something like 1000)

hello ,
530i 2003 e30 , e29 fail transmition program my tac are not working and temperature hot , but the car is not,
Please help.

hello ,
530i 2003 e30 , e29 fail transmition program my tac are not working and temperature hot , but the car is not,
Please help.
Is this supposed to be a real question?

Take the car to Carr Industries, http://www.carrindustries.com, 336-931-0007 or some other shop in your area. Carr Industries may be a bit far, but your problem is going to need professional diagnosis.

We use the Autologic as well, and have been rather pleased with it. However we do not see many of the newer models. Mercedes software has always been a tough one to crack since there are dozens of different modules and so many different changes in modules over the years. Snap On SOLUS is supposed to be the new Mercedes factory-supported tool, but I don't know how well they're doing on that one yet. We don't touch Mercedes diags since it's not our specialty.

But for BMW's, the Autologic is the #2 tool next to the GT1. Problem is that the GT1 is pretty much unobtanium.

We have an Autologic Diagnostic scanner in excellent condition for sale. It comes with the carrying case, has the BMW and Mercedes-Benz software/firmware on it. In addition, it comes with 2 BMW 20-pin connectors, a 16-pin connector for OBDII cars, a 38-pin Mercedes-Benz multiplexer, and a 16-pin OBDII Mercedes-Benz multiplexer. Also, the AC adapter set and the serial adapter cable is included as well as the DIN extension cable for the diagnostic cables.

We are the original owners and the unit works absolutely perfectly. We are asking $11500 or best offer. Please contact Motorwerks Group (248) 668-6793 and ask for Satish Tummala

Regards,

Satish Tummala
Motorwerks Group LLC

isn't 11,500 more than retail? what software updates have you purchased? Must be due to the Benz software. We just finished paying for ours a few months ago.

We have added a lot of the newer software and get excellent tech support from AL and they have even done some custom retrofit stuff for us in the past. No complaints here