For those of you who know the campus, I was in the courtyard today around 12:00 to take part in a moment of silence ceremony for the victims of 9/11. The event was non-partisan, however it was organized by the GSU college republicans club, of which I am a member. Early this morning, we situated 3,000 flags in one of the planters in the courtyard. The club also arranged to have a bag pipe player come out and lead the ceremony. To keep it fair, we refrained from issuing out any republican placards and/or political literature of any kind. Instead, we brought hundreds of little flags to hand out.

There was just one little problem...not one person took one. Not to mention, there was no moment of silence. No bowing of heads. I even heard one person ask what the flags were for.

I know I'm covering a large group of people when I project my vitriol for the university. But time and time again, GSU comes to remind me where all the stupid people of Atlanta with degrees originate.

Shame on GSU. Just another meaningless institution that has absolutely no integrity.

Here's what the flags looked like. (I am not pictured)

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z121/Kalipsis/n22604937_31006596_7635.jpg

Wow. Truly pathetic. :confused


But you can bet if Al Gore took a dump in a bucket, they'd fight each other tooth and nail just to get a sniff while it was still warm. :rolleyes



Good job with the gesture, nonetheless. Sometimes doing the right thing is it own - and only - reward.

I commend you for your efforts, even though I am not a republican and not really a democrat either. But it was not about that in the first place.

Bah. You needed a "PLEASE TAKE ONE" sign or something.

Wow. Truly pathetic. :confused


But you can bet if Al Gore took a dump in a bucket, they'd fight each other tooth and nail just to get a sniff while it was still warm. :rolleyes



Good job with the gesture, nonetheless. Sometimes doing the right thing is it own - and only - reward.


Thanks, and you're right about the Al Gore following around campus. Not even 20 feet from the bag pipes, there was an environmental club contest that involved pitching aluminum cans into a group of trash cans lined in a row. They were holding up "SAVE THE ENVIRONMENT" posters in the middle of the ceremony...

:dunno I went to GSU and I turned out ok. I'm about to head down there now to go workout. I'll see if the flags are still there.

Thanks, and you're right about the Al Gore following around campus. Not even 20 feet from the bag pipes, there was an environmental club contest that involved pitching aluminum cans into a group of trash cans lined in a row. They were holding up "SAVE THE ENVIRONMENT" posters in the middle of the ceremony...

Dumb asses are everywhere it just so happens allot of them are in Georgia. Probably a product of inbreeding. I would have to say that if I saw, 100's of flags in the ground I would not jut take them either. Because then when you did someone would yell at you saying its a memorial. I do think A sign or announcement would have worked.

Bah. You needed a "PLEASE TAKE ONE" sign or something.

for real. did you have any sign tha said it was ok or encouraged to please take one?

i know myself if i saw that someone put a lot of time to stick 3000 little flags in one area if there wasnt a sign saying it was to take one that i would not because i thought it was possibly a memorial put together of some type.

That is a really awesome thing that you guys did. I really think that people probably thought it would be bad to take one, as if your display was and artful memorial. I would not have taken a flag either, unless I saw signs, BIG signs, that said it was ok to have one. I'm sure no one meant any insult man. Do you?

Dumb asses are everywhere it just so happens allot of them are in Georgia. Probably a product of inbreeding. I would have to say that if I saw, 100's of flags in the ground I would not jut take them either. Because then when you did someone would yell at you saying its a memorial. I do think A sign or announcement would have worked.

for real. did you have any sign tha said it was ok or encouraged to please take one?

i know myself if i saw that someone put a lot of time to stick 3000 little flags in one area if there wasnt a sign saying it was to take one that i would not because i thought it was possibly a memorial put together of some type.


That is a really awesome thing that you guys did. I really think that people probably thought it would be bad to take one, as if your display was and artful memorial. I would not have taken a flag either, unless I saw signs, BIG signs, that said it was ok to have one. I'm sure no one meant any insult man. Do you?

We brought hundreds more and were handing them out...no one accepted them.

:(

We brought hundreds more and were handing them out...no one accepted them.

:(

I would have taken an afghanistan flag if you had one :dunno

Viva la mexico!

I would have taken a rainbow flag if you had one :dunno

Viva la anus!

Fixed.

Fixed.



I'm not the one who goes to state :alright

oh yea, I saw a lady today with the tag "FL G8TR"

Wow. Truly pathetic. :confused


But you can bet if Al Gore took a dump in a bucket, they'd fight each other tooth and nail just to get a sniff while it was still warm. :rolleyes



Good job with the gesture, nonetheless. Sometimes doing the right thing is it own - and only - reward.

+1

OH OK now that is a horse of another colour. That is sad in my opinion. Where you wearing Orange and Blue?

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I'm not the one who goes to state :alright

oh yea, I saw a lady today with the tag "FL H8TR"

Great gesture, Kevin. It's not called libearal arts for nuthin', ya know?

We brought hundreds more and were handing them out...no one accepted them.

:(

I find that hard to believe. I'm going to ask my sister about it.

Wow. Truly pathetic. :confused


But you can bet if Al Gore took a dump in a bucket, they'd fight each other tooth and nail just to get a sniff while it was still warm. :rolleyes



Good job with the gesture, nonetheless. Sometimes doing the right thing is it own - and only - reward.

I love reading the Wha.

I love reading the Wha.

You mean, the "Daily Wha"?

It doesn't surprise me. The people who asked about the flags are probably the same asshats who told me that I could not register for classes because they didn't have my immunization records or my high school transcripts AFTER I had already taken a semester of classes at GSU! One would think that filing paperwork is not that difficult, but then again they were probably trying to save the environment and do not multitask very well.

I love reading the Wha.
:smiliecap
You mean, the "Daily Wha"?
:rofl

I was at GSU today but didnt go by that part of the courtyard. sorry to hear about that. not one professor mentioned 9/11 today. i only overheard two students even talking about it today, and they were the ones commenting that no one has said anything.

They were holding up "SAVE THE ENVIRONMENT" posters in the middle of the ceremony...
After years of being told they're special, told "it's all about the kids", and coddled at every turn by a parental bulwark designed to shield them from every advance of reality around them, is it really any shock that the remembrances of the pivotal moments of history fail to garner a sideways glance?

Bring a cause-du-jour that allows them to water their inner need for self-righteous praise and they rally around, Nuremberg-style. Raise a flag in memorial to the victims and heroes of a tragic event in history to remind them that there are those who showed greatness in the face of horror without having it spoon fed and they ignore.

Next time, pull a gun and cap a couple of them. That seems to get their attention.

I'll go wait for my ban now in disgust.

After years of being told they're special, told "it's all about the kids", and coddled at every turn by a parental bulwark designed to shield them from every advance of reality around them, is it really any shock that the remembrances of the pivotal moments of history fail to garner a sideways glance?

Bring a cause-du-jour that allows them to water their inner need for self-righteous praise and they rally around, Nuremberg-style. Raise a flag in memorial to the victims and heroes of a tragic event in history to remind them that there are those who showed greatness in the face of horror without having it spoon fed and they ignore.

Next time, pull a gun and cap a couple of them. That seems to get their attention.

I'll go wait for my ban now in disgust.

:clap :handclap

That sucks and I would've taken a flag but maybe there's some good in it. I'm tired of hearing about 9/11 too and have moved on. Senseless killing goes on everyday and this was just another unfortunate event. Unless they make it a holiday, 9/11 is just another day for me now.

That sucks and I would've taken a flag but maybe there's some good in it. I'm tired of hearing about 9/11 too and have moved on. Senseless killing goes on everyday and this was just another unfortunate event. Unless they make it a holiday, 9/11 is just another day for me now.

+1

It's turned into just another political football.

Besides, GSU has the best radio station on the planet.

http://www2.gsu.edu/~www885/wraslogo.jpg

After years of being told they're special, told "it's all about the kids", and coddled at every turn by a parental bulwark designed to shield them from every advance of reality around them, is it really any shock that the remembrances of the pivotal moments of history fail to garner a sideways glance?

Bring a cause-du-jour that allows them to water their inner need for self-righteous praise and they rally around, Nuremberg-style. Raise a flag in memorial to the victims and heroes of a tragic event in history to remind them that there are those who showed greatness in the face of horror without having it spoon fed and they ignore.

Next time, pull a gun and cap a couple of them. That seems to get their attention.

I'll go wait for my ban now in disgust.

+2 George. I echo that sentiment.

Honestly, I am not suprised at all.

I'm glad that a few good people tried to get others to show their respects but it seems very few had respect at all.

Wha said it perfectly, Truly Pathetic.

BTW, I am patriotic. I would die for this country for a good reason.

It's cool that you did that. I'm not surprised though that people didn't seem to care. Too many people out there don't care about tragedies such as 9/11 unless it happens to/effects them.

That sucks and I would've taken a flag but maybe there's some good in it. I'm tired of hearing about 9/11 too and have moved on. Senseless killing goes on everyday and this was just another unfortunate event. Unless they make it a holiday, 9/11 is just another day for me now.
A very valid point; I'm not at all impressed with the yearly media-driven orgy of hand-wringing and renewed mourning merely for mourning's sake. We could all stand to "get on with it" a lot more than we're led to believe.

However, the question here is the reason for the nonchalant non-participation. An absence of appreciation out of ignorance or disaffection is not the same as a sense of mature, determined resolve. When it comes to a college campus, I seriously doubt the attitudes expressed spring from the latter.

.02

Besides, GSU has the best radio station on the planet.

+1 Best radio station in Atlanta!

sorry to go off topic but WREK rules over those wussy's at wras! I commend the OP efforts on his 9/11 memorial but don't get so upset over what other people are doing, or in this case are not doing. Personally I think the best way to beat those bastards is not show emotion. Don't let them think they hurt you , It may be cold but thats how I choose to deal with.

sorry to go off topic but WREK rules over those wussy's at wras! I commend the OP efforts on his 9/11 memorial but don't get so upset over what other people are doing, or in this case are not doing. Personally I think the best way to beat those bastards is not show emotion. Don't let them think they hurt you , It may be cold but thats how I choose to deal with.

WREK used to be right there with RAS, but they went off on a weird 'white noise' tangent and I haven't been back.

BTW, why do so many people feel that guns are the first option rather than the last?

Blows my mind that anyone would want to kill someone for not paying attention to a memorial service. :dunno

Great gesture, Kevin. It's not called libearal arts for nuthin', ya know?

They teach spelling at UGA? Nice that you already put it in bold, so I didn't have to.

They teach spelling at UGA? Nice that you already put it in bold, so I didn't have to.

:lol:lol:lol

Unless he misspelled "liberal" intentionally, which I highly doubt, "self-ownage" FTL :lol

Great gesture, Kevin. It's not called libearal arts for nuthin', ya know?

A very valid point; I'm not at all impressed with the yearly media-driven orgy of hand-wringing and renewed mourning merely for mourning's sake. We could all stand to "get on with it" a lot more than we're led to believe.

However, the question here is the reason for the nonchalant non-participation. An absence of appreciation out of ignorance or disaffection is not the same as a sense of mature, determined resolve. When it comes to a college campus, I seriously doubt the attitudes expressed spring from the latter.

.02
Word. That's why I said I would've taken a flag and would've even thanked him (or whoever was handing it out). Kevin went out of his way to pay honor and respect to those who died on 9/11 and people just ignored that. I would be pissed too putting in that effort and thought and have people ask what it was for. As he said, he refrained from soliciting the students with College Republicans materials and handed the flags out from of the goodness of his heart and the students still didn't pay their respects. Shame on them.

On a serious note, let's look at a few points of why this happened.

-A sign or two stating "Please take one" or "Take a flag" would of definitely helped the situation
-There are dozens of organizations in Downtown Atlanta on the perimeter of GSU campus handing out fliers, newspapers, papers, pamphlets, etc. People are sick of having to grab a flier or pamphlet then holding and then figuring out where to throw it away. Many students and faculty simply ignore them since they are annoyed. The roads and sidewalks of Atlanta aren't the cleanest in the world yet many people do not want to "litter" to add to the problem.
-As Adeel and Wha mentioned above, many people are sick of all the coverage and the redundant news as they would like to move on to forget about the incident. It is a tragic event but it has been almost six years and Americans would simply like forget about the tragedy.
-This is a urban campus where the student life is very fast and busy so students are always on the run to hurry to class and whatnot.
-It looks as though that "setup" of the flags was just a temporary monument and didn't seem as though you were allowed to pick one up. Again small sign simply stating "Please take one" would have significantly change the situation.
-Also location is everything, that location you picked doesn't seem to be the center of the courtyard as it seems in the corner of Sparks Hall. Also it is on the ground basically. A stage or table would have helped the situation. There have been dozens of times where an organization is handing out pamphlets or fliers and a table is setup. Also a stage has been setup near the courtyard as well for promotions as well.

I do not want to come off as being anti-9/11 or non-patriotic but I'm simply elaborating on the cause and effect. I do want to attack or oppose Kevin's and the groups efforts but was simply stating the facts. A college education does teach us to analyze and examine incidents so we can comprehend them effectively and this is what I'm doing. I simply wanted to explain of why this happened.

Also not even "one?" There wasn't one person that took a flag? Even if there wasn't a person I wouldn't be surprised since there wasn't a sign and the location was on the side.

Even if people took a flag they probably would have end up in a garbage or on the ground adding to the garbage on the ground that exists.

Again I'm not opposed to giving out the flags nor I'm unemphatic toward the tragedy of 9/11. It is a very sad day and the victims will be remembered. Also I'm not attacking the OP's or anyone else's effort but simply stating the facts why the goal wasn't an successful.

On a serious note, let's look at a few points of why this happened.

-A sign or two stating "Please take one" or "Take a flag" would of definitely helped the situation
-There are dozens of organizations in Downtown Atlanta on the perimeter of GSU campus handing out fliers, newspapers, papers, pamphlets, etc. People are sick of having to grab a flier or pamphlet then holding and then figuring out where to throw it away. Many students and faculty simply ignore them since they are annoyed. The roads and sidewalks of Atlanta aren't the cleanest in the world yet many people do not want to "litter" to add to the problem.
-As Adeel and Wha mentioned above, many people are sick of all the coverage and the redundant news as they would like to move on to forget about the incident. It is a tragic event but it has been almost six years and Americans would simply like forget about the tragedy.
-This is a urban campus where the student life is very fast and busy so students are always on the run to hurry to class and whatnot.
-It looks as though that "setup" of the flags was just a temporary monument and didn't seem as though you were allowed to pick one up. Again small sign simply stating "Please take one" would have significantly change the situation.
-Also location is everything, that location you picked doesn't seem to be the center of the courtyard as it seems in the corner of Sparks Hall. Also it is on the ground basically. A stage or table would have helped the situation. There have been dozens of times where an organization is handing out pamphlets or fliers and a table is setup. Also a stage has been setup near the courtyard as well for promotions as well.

I do not want to come off as being anti-9/11 or non-patriotic but I'm simply elaborating on the cause and effect. I do want to attack or oppose Kevin's and the groups efforts but was simply stating the facts. A college education does teach us to analyze and examine incidents so we can comprehend them effectively and this is what I'm doing. I simply wanted to explain of why this happened.

Also not even "one?" There wasn't one person that took a flag? Even if there wasn't a person I wouldn't be surprised since there wasn't a sign and the location was on the side.

Even if people took a flag they probably would have end up in a garbage or on the ground adding to the garbage on the ground that exists.

Again I'm not opposed to giving out the flags nor I'm unemphatic toward the tragedy of 9/11. It is a very sad day and the victims will be remembered. Also I'm not attacking the OP's or anyone else's effort but simply stating the facts why the goal wasn't an successful.
terrorist.

I do agree with the point above, even at tech I get crap shoved into my face all the time. The only fliers, pamphlets, etc I take are from the Jewish Student Union at tech

Also another point, maybe if the flags were located in the Law building it may of helped.

I do agree with the point above, even at tech I get crap shoved into my face all the time. The only things I take are from the Jewish Student Union at tech
:confused

:confused

During Israel week they always bring this Camel, I tried to buy it from them and even offered 10,000 Dirham but they wouldn't sell it to me :shifty I'm trying to get on their good side

http://www.arabnews.com/2005/04/camel17_.jpg

During Israel week they always bring this Camel, I tried to buy it from them and even offered 10,000 Dirham but they wouldn't sell it to me :shifty I'm trying to get on their good side

http://www.arabnews.com/2005/04/camel17_.jpg
lol @ Camelschwartz

Is that a actual red camel? Whatever it is, it's ugly.

Is that a actual red camel? Whatever it is, it's ugly.
Are you colorblind? It's black, camelschwartz black. And it's pretty hot. I have a 2 hump one on order.

Are you colorblind? It's black, camelschwartz black. And it's pretty hot. I have a 2 hump one on order.

Whatever it is, it looks disgusting.

Whatever it is, it looks disgusting.

They have been a mode of transportation for thousands of years, I'll pretend I didn't read that.

They have been a mode of transportation for thousands of years, I'll pretend I didn't read that.

Not that kind, I know there are prettier ones. Why the hell did you pick the ugliest camel on Google images for an example anyways?

Not that kind, I know there are prettier ones. Why the hell did you pick the ugliest camel on Google image for an example anyways?

Why are you being racist? Sorry its not a white camel

They have been a mode of transportation for thousands of years, I'll pretend I didn't read that.
+1

He's disgracing our heritage. Camels, especially that one, are hot. Look at the love that young arab is showing that camel. See how affectionate and caring his gaze is towards that beautiful beast. His love is the love all arabs should share towards their camels.

I am disappointed in you, qidm67. May your progeny bear the weight of a thousand Jews.

+1

He's disgracing our heritage. Camels, especially that one, are hot. Look at the love that young arab is showing that camel. See how affectionate and caring his gaze is towards that beautiful beast. His love is the love all arabs should share towards their camels.

I am disappointed in you, qidm67. May your progeny bear the weight of a thousand Jews.

:lol :rofl

Also another point, maybe if the flags were located in the Law building it may of helped.

Are you kidding? Law students have less time to care about what is going on in the outside world than Undergrad students.

Why are you being racist? Sorry its not a white camel

qidm67 is very non-white.

qidm67 is very non-white.

lol, I know I was just jokin around

Are you kidding? Law students have less time to care about what is going on in the outside world than Undergrad students.
I was only throwing that in there because politics and republicans was mentioned. That is why I mentioned the law building. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the law building does share a few political science classes and gov classes.

qidm67 is very non-white.
:devillook

qidm67 is very non-white.

And what do yo mean by very? :rofl

-It looks as though that "setup" of the flags was just a temporary monument and didn't seem as though you were allowed to pick one up.
Just a note for accuracy: They weren't expecting people to pick up the flags that were on display. There were people there handing out other flags (http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10602635&postcount=10).


One other point to consider is that if you use an age of a ballpark 18-20 years old for most GSU types, six years ago, they'd only have been 12-14. Definitely not the age when attention to world events is key. Worse, in the era of "protecting the chiiiiiiilllllldren" from everything that isn't a singing purple dinosaur, mommy & daddy probably went to great lengths to shield their precious impressionable babies from the violence and disturbing images on TV, rather than engage in a meaningful discussion of what was going on.

Of course, that's assuming the typical career uteri are even capable of such dialogue, which is a helluva reach at best. :rolleyes

So in addition to all the foregoing, your intended audience probably only had a passing footnote's worth of an idea as to why you were doing that.


Still, good job. :thumbup:


:cool

They should be shot anyway. :shifty

They teach spelling at UGA? Nice that you already put it in bold, so I didn't have to.

Typo, asshat.