I have for sale one of my spare heads for my race car. Here's the description:

Start with VAC stage 3 ($3500 + core = ~$4000) add the following:

Upgrades:
- fresh proper race valve job (5 angle using Serdi) VALUE $2600 retail

- Ferea valve train upgrade (VAC does not use these on their Stage 3 heads - ask me how I know). I installed Ti retainers, dual matched valve springs new lifters, etc) $1600 retail

I have over $8 k in this head with the above work and every bit new. I have used the head 1 time. Total of less than 2 hours on the head.


It is for sale for $3500 plus shipping from Southern California.

No Cams - No Header

Pictures attached.

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Bump

FYI, all the head work on this head was done by an x-BMW Formula 1 engine builder! It is as good as you are going to see this side of the atlantic.

Free bump, and a question: Why are ya selling? Something even crazier going on?

Free bump, and a question: Why are ya selling? Something even crazier going on?

Thanks - YES!! Something even crazier!! Custom cams, big porting, some amazing valves, etc, etc - much lighter wallet.

Should be fun!!

Will this fit my flathead ford v-8?

Marco ;-)
amazed at the number of stupid questions I get when I try and sell something.
btw - those headers look nice!

LOL - as a matter of fact, YES Marco!! This will fit your flathead Ford! Just send me the money, and I'll send you the head!!

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Will this fit my flathead ford v-8?

Marco ;-)
amazed at the number of stupid questions I get when I try and sell something.
btw - those headers look nice!
Wow - pigs must be flying - Marco Romani on BFC! Welcome to the chaos!

Thanks on the headers, they took us a while to build but they came out nice enough!

Come on guys, this is OBO

How much would this thing be to ship to PA? I might have cracked my head last week so I may need to buy a new head. May be interested..

Don't know exactly - but I would split shipping with you and cap your exposure to $40 to ship it. So if it cost over $80, I would pay the difference.

Bump - I will sell E36 M3 Cams with this head - same price.

What's the max safe rev limit on this head?

Safe rev limit is completely CAM dependent. The head is newly rebuilt however, and I felt (along with my engineer) to spin my motor to 7500 with the stock M3 cams.

As jon stated, it is about the cam. We have cams that we can sell that will allow you to rev to 8700 without danger with this head, BTW. (Yes with Hydro lifters).

Thanks
brad

this is a crazy deal! someone pick this up!

New Price - $3250 shipped to CONUS.

Cool head

looks nice! good luck with the sale

looks nice! good luck with the sale

Thanks - BUY IT!!

very tempting... free bump for an insane head

So this will fit S52 motor? I have a 97 M3 with S50 manifold and obdI, and my next step is race head and shrick cams. Will this work? How well will it work with a set of Shrick cams. Sorry for all the questions...very interested.

Thanks,

Tom

So this will fit S52 motor? I have a 97 M3 with S50 manifold and obdI, and my next step is race head and shrick cams. Will this work? How well will it work with a set of Shrick cams. Sorry for all the questions...very interested.

Thanks,

Tom

Yes, this will work on an S52 motor. It will work fine with a set of Schrick cams. I have run Schricks with this head, and it currently has M3 Cams (S52) in it now.

What would you consider the safe rev limit with Schrick cams?

What would you consider the safe rev limit with Schrick cams?

I don't like Schrick Cams. I think their profile stinks and is too pointy to be a good cam for high RPM application. With that in mind, I would say that I wouldn't want to spin ANY head much past 7k with Schrick cams in it.

Now, a cam that has a better profile, like the ones evosport has been developing for me? I would spin them all day long to 7500. Maybe even 7800 with a little more data.

My question is though, why do you want to spin an S50 or S52 that high? The head runs out of steam and really starts not flowing well way up there.

In the context of high level autocross in the almost unlimited SCCA Street Mod class, the E36 M3 is a proven winner. Many national class winners have gone for boost (mostly supercharged, one turbo), so head flow at high rpms is not a huge handicap.

An advantage for the class winner with an S54 swap into the E36 is their ability to out rev the S52/50 and remain in the power and a higher speed without the shifting downtime of 2nd to 3rd gear and back to 2nd for each of the corners.

In my case the previous owner installed Schrick cams & my present budget doesn't make sense to replace them with Sunbelt or Evosport cams.

In the context of high level autocross in the almost unlimited SCCA Street Mod class, the E36 M3 is a proven winner. Many national class winners have gone for boost (mostly supercharged, one turbo), so head flow at high rpms is not a huge handicap.

An advantage for the class winner with an S54 swap into the E36 is their ability to out rev the S52/50 and remain in the power and a higher speed without the shifting downtime of 2nd to 3rd gear and back to 2nd for each of the corners.

In my case the previous owner installed Schrick cams & my present budget doesn't make sense to replace them with Sunbelt or Evosport cams.
I had a mild port and polish done to mine when we built my head. Mine has all Ferrea components and oversized valves. I rev to 7800 with stock cams.

This head looks like it's similar.

I had a mild port and polish done to mine when we built my head. Mine has all Ferrea components and oversized valves. I rev to 7800 with stock cams.

This head looks like it's similar.

I would feel so much better reving to that number with stock M3 cams!! I just wouldn't want to do it with Schricks - sorry. :(

hmmn college tuition or super sexy cylinder head:stickoutt

hmmn college tuition or super sexy cylinder head:stickoutt

That's easy!!! Not even a decision. Cylinder head of course!! :)

It's on the EBAY!! HEAD HERE!!!! (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280157315610&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fmotors.search.ebay.com%3A80%2F%3Ff rom%3DR40%26satitle%3D280157315610%26fvi%3D1)

Whats the difference with between this vac stg. 3 head and one I would buy from vac? I see that you changed out the valve components. Why did choose to change them from the ones vac provides with the stg. 3 head? The heads come with titanium retainers and dual spring upgrades already.

Whats the difference with between this vac stg. 3 head and one I would buy from vac? I see that you changed out the valve components. Why did choose to change them from the ones vac provides with the stg. 3 head? The heads come with titanium retainers and dual spring upgrades already.

I think I answered this in the description. VAC did not use Ferea Valves or valve train in the Stage 3 Head I purchased. They used an inferior brand that did not live up the the rigors of race use. I had to replace everything in the head with all new components.

I'm sorry for going OT here but mind sharing what brand they use? and what it might stand up to on the street?

And GL with sale if it were 1k I'd get it :( sorry.

I'm sorry for going OT here but mind sharing what brand they use? and what it might stand up to on the street?

And GL with sale if it were 1k I'd get it :( sorry.

Call them and ask them, I know, but it is not my place to say.

Thanks.

I've tried emailing them with no response. but thanks. I'll just have to try a little bit harder to get ahold of them I guess.

Thanks however. I understand it's really not your place to say and all. But thought I'd ask.

Bump - I got two offers. One guy is trying to "get money into paypal" - Anyone else???

Sold pending funds.

Payment sent:D

Payment sent:D
Congrats on the purchase, it's a good deal. I spent well over that amount to have my head built.

Congrats on the purchase, it's a good deal. I spent well over that amount to have my head built.

Thank you, we'll see how it works with my supercharged application. :D Now for the install cost.....:(

Thank you, we'll see how it works with my supercharged application. :D Now for the install cost.....:(
Well you're only 1.5 hours or so from us. Give us a call if you don't already have a shop that you trust.

So is the ebay auction going to be pulled off now?

So is the ebay auction going to be pulled off now?

Already did.

Thank you, we'll see how it works with my supercharged application. :D Now for the install cost.....:(

i think that will be pretty good...can spin the s/c so much faster with the much higher red line:buttrock

Already did.

Thank you again, install date to be around the 11th:D.

Well you're only 1.5 hours or so from us. Give us a call if you don't already have a shop that you trust.

Thank you for the offer, The M Shop will be doing the install plus other upgrades but will keep your shop in mind for my next project.

Edit. Actually, do you happen to have an s54 radiator for sale?

damn. I was about ready to take out a student loan for this... My sunbelts would have loved to call the head home.

Do you drive a big truck with a Evosport sticker on the windshield?

Do you drive a big truck with a Evosport sticker on the windshield?

Yes- White Excursion

You and I live in the same neighborhood in Irvine. Also, remember I bought a hood from you in 2002 or so.

damn. I was about ready to take out a student loan for this... My sunbelts would have loved to call the head home.

Tell me about it,lol, I'm refinancing the house:stickoutt

Jon, sent you an email today. Please read.

Thank you for the very quick reply. Appreciate the concern.