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NHbmw325I 09-07-2007, 03:41 PM I need to open up my headlights to see if the adjusting screw is not in place because one of the adjusters doesnt work right now, it "skips". So to open the headlights is it just those 4 metal clips, and those large plastic ones? I just want to be certain so I don't break anything. Also do I need to reseal anything after, and if so is there a recommended product?
I have DEPO Gen IV I believe, I got them 2 weeks ago from habbie, with the KDW? HID's.
Thanks,
Nick
NHbmw325I 09-08-2007, 10:51 PM bump
habbie 09-09-2007, 03:44 AM I need to open up my headlights to see if the adjusting screw is not in place because one of the adjusters doesnt work right now, it "skips". So to open the headlights is it just those 4 metal clips, and those large plastic ones? I just want to be certain so I don't break anything. Also do I need to reseal anything after, and if so is there a recommended product?
I have DEPO Gen IV I believe, I got them 2 weeks ago from habbie, with the KDW? HID's.
Thanks,
Nick
thats it, 4 metal vlips and the plastic tabs on each side.
spoonerDee 09-09-2007, 12:06 PM use a little muscle and take your time
NHbmw325I 09-09-2007, 01:19 PM thats what I wanted to hear, I dont want to break anything. I'll try it now.
cabin 09-09-2007, 01:33 PM I thought the "gen IV's" were also glued shut to prevent fogging. That would mean you need to put them in the oven to get them apart.
NHbmw325I 09-09-2007, 01:37 PM is that right? If so, crap lol.. im going to check it out now I got a little sidetracked.
RahgBag 09-09-2007, 02:32 PM My gen IV's were glued shut. I just took a razor and sliced through the glue and when I put them back together I just made sure that they were seated well and I've had no issues.
NHbmw325I 09-11-2007, 11:21 AM habbie, when you said the adjuster screw could be my skipping problem what exactly do I need to do with it? I have the front part of the headlight off. Now the adjuster turns freely, it just "skips" when the whole cover is back on the headlight, so what should I adjust? Thanks
habbie 09-11-2007, 02:43 PM habbie, when you said the adjuster screw could be my skipping problem what exactly do I need to do with it? I have the front part of the headlight off. Now the adjuster turns freely, it just "skips" when the whole cover is back on the headlight, so what should I adjust? Thanks
there will be a washer or nut of sorts loose in the headlight somewhere or it may still be attached to the bracket, long screw goes in it.
NHbmw325I 09-11-2007, 10:19 PM oh ok, it is in place and isn't loose. Any other ideas, I havent been able to drive my car for like 2 weeks now :( And my golf needs a timing belt so that car will be out of action soon.
habbie 09-11-2007, 10:21 PM oh ok, it is in place and isn't loose. Any other ideas, I havent been able to drive my car for like 2 weeks now :( And my golf needs a timing belt so that car will be out of action soon.
there are 2 of them in there, both are secured?
NHbmw325I 09-12-2007, 12:04 AM i'll take a pic tomorrow morning, I think you could explain it to me a little better that way.
Graham325is 09-13-2007, 09:48 PM dude, you should replace them for that guy if they came broken
///MZG 09-14-2007, 11:10 PM yeah, why not just send him a new set or at least the one that is broken?
NHbmw325I 09-20-2007, 12:31 AM This is true guys. I cannot get them to work, it cannot be something I have done. I aligned the other one correctly. And the adjuster screw is fine on the headlight. I have been trying for a while now to see what else I can do. So can I return both headlights for new ones? Or at least my drivers side that does not work? I dont have another means of transportation, I had to drive my VW everyday, but that broke down on me :(
habbie 09-20-2007, 12:38 AM This is true guys. I cannot get them to work, it cannot be something I have done. I aligned the other one correctly. And the adjuster screw is fine on the headlight. I have been trying for a while now to see what else I can do. So can I return both headlights for new ones? Or at least my drivers side that does not work? I dont have another means of transportation, I had to drive my VW everyday, but that broke down on me :(
not being able to properly aim the lights is not a defect, turning the adjustment screws out of the bracket is not a defect either.
you can return the headlights if you wish but if no defect is found you will have to pay shipping twice and get the same ones back.
also note that any damage to the headlights is not covered by the warranty, if they somehow broke during install or any other time that will not be covered.
NHbmw325I 09-20-2007, 12:23 PM I don't think they are out of the bracket, but if that is the case, do you have a DIY that explains this if it is something that I did incorrectly...
mds82 09-20-2007, 03:37 PM luckily you dont have an E90 - those headlights are a Pain to open.
habbie 09-20-2007, 03:42 PM I don't think they are out of the bracket, but if that is the case, do you have a DIY that explains this if it is something that I did incorrectly...
Nick,
all you have to do is follow the adjusting screws and make suren they are securly in the bracket, its a common issue where people over adjust their lights and the screw seperates from the bracket.
another common issue in adjusting the headlights is not turning it enough, it takes more then a few turns to make it move up or down hence the problem of them seperating.
also, from the pictures i saw last time, your lights were nowhere near installed properly nor were they lined up properly in the car which caused you to break the corner guides, that would certainly affect your ability to adjust them properly.
NHbmw325I 09-20-2007, 03:51 PM I have changed the mounting from last time, it is very close to the pictures you sent me of your car, or whoevers it was. The corner guide was already broken when I got it. The top sliding part if that is what you mean? Or do you mean the actual "pointy" part on the corner lights? I put my OEM corners back in for now anyways.
Let me take a pic of how my headlight is to give you an idea so I can get that headlight back in!
NHbmw325I 09-20-2007, 04:19 PM http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e38/94bmw325i/Headlights/P1010139.jpg
I know its not a great pic, but everything is secure there, and there are 3 threads visible.
euro96 09-20-2007, 04:27 PM depo adjusting screws suck beyond belief
i hate them...its all plastic and they bend around and flex, so the bevels never line up smoothly
habbie 09-20-2007, 04:31 PM http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e38/94bmw325i/Headlights/P1010139.jpg
I know its not a great pic, but everything is secure there, and there are 3 threads visible.
what about the other one?
NHbmw325I 09-20-2007, 04:42 PM the adjuster to the right of that one is the same, except has 2 more threads visible. Is that what you are asking about? The other headlight is in my car, and does not skip so I dont plan on taking that one out.
habbie 09-20-2007, 04:57 PM the adjuster to the right of that one is the same, except has 2 more threads visible. Is that what you are asking about? The other headlight is in my car, and does not skip so I dont plan on taking that one out.
so what is the difficulty then? if the adjusters are both in and turning you shouldn't have a problem adjusting them unless the knobs on the back broke.
post pictures from inside the car with the lights on and pics showing the output.
NHbmw325I 09-20-2007, 05:06 PM the knobs aren't broken, thats why I dont understand why it skips. It definetely does though. The allen heads are not stripped either.
habbie 09-20-2007, 06:38 PM the knobs aren't broken, thats why I dont understand why it skips. It definetely does though. The allen heads are not stripped either.
the plastic may have seperated from the metal screw where they mate, that my be your problem. again post pice or pm me some of the lights in action and ones showing the install like you did last time.
NHbmw325I 09-20-2007, 06:46 PM ok, ill do that in a bit after dinner. Will post pics in a few hrs of them installed, and pointing at my garage. My driveway is slightly slanted so they might look a little high if I can aim the other one also.
NHbmw325I 09-20-2007, 11:42 PM The side to side adjuster doesnt seem to do anything. And it no longer skips. My driveway has a slight slope also..
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e38/94bmw325i/Headlights/P1010140.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e38/94bmw325i/Headlights/P1010141.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e38/94bmw325i/Headlights/P1010142.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e38/94bmw325i/Headlights/P1010143.jpg
habbie 09-21-2007, 11:47 AM i still need to see install pics, pm me the same type as you did last time.
NHbmw325I 09-21-2007, 01:18 PM ill take some today, but I don't see that affecting one of the adjusters. The 1adjuster does nothing, it wouldn't move over at all. I didnt see it move at all on the garage. The other 3 had resistance when I turned, and moved the light visibly, but this one spins freely.
NHbmw325I 09-23-2007, 12:10 AM install pics coming sometime tomorrow. I still don't see how having them slightly off if they are, makes one of the adjusters not work at all, when the others adjust fine. I am curious to see if there is anything else I can do.
habbie 09-23-2007, 12:17 AM install pics coming sometime tomorrow. I still don't see how having them slightly off if they are, makes one of the adjusters not work at all, when the others adjust fine. I am curious to see if there is anything else I can do.
if the adjustment knobs are broken the only way to adjust the headlights will be with the inserts, judging by the install pics you sent me a while ago i'd say they somehow were over adjusted and eithr broke loose or worst.
im asking for pics since im not there, i need to see so i can have some sort of a clue and offer a solution rather then a guess.
NHbmw325I 09-23-2007, 10:26 PM the reason my one headlight was installed so poorly in those first install pics was because the adjuster didnt work, so I tried to aim my light with the mounting screws. I admit the other one was off also, but nowhere near what the drivers side one was. I'll take the pics tomorrow night as I dont have a camera tonight.
Quailane 09-23-2007, 11:10 PM not being able to properly aim the lights is not a defect, turning the adjustment screws out of the bracket is not a defect either.
you can return the headlights if you wish but if no defect is found you will have to pay shipping twice and get the same ones back.
also note that any damage to the headlights is not covered by the warranty, if they somehow broke during install or any other time that will not be covered.
He could not have over adjusted them if it never adjusted in the first place.
It seems like you want him to keep messing with his messed up headlight so that he can eventually damage it and you can say it is not your responsibility when in fact you have sold him a defective product.
Why don't you take his one headlight back and send him a new one?
habbie 09-23-2007, 11:26 PM He could not have over adjusted them if it never adjusted in the first place.
It seems like you want him to keep messing with his messed up headlight so that he can eventually damage it and you can say it is not your responsibility when in fact you have sold him a defective product.
Why don't you take his one headlight back and send him a new one?
no offense but how would you know, were you there? have you looked at the pictures?? i have.
second, breaking or damaging the adjustment knobs or corner guides is not covered by the warranty, it happens due to user error during install 99.9% of the time, he himself has claimed to have turned them on multipule occasions so that throws yet another of your arguments out not to mention that the adjusters dont stop working all on their own.
if asking for pictures so i can see what he did or did not do is somehow messing with his lights i would love to hear your explanation for that one.
lastly this between him and i, since you cant fix nor offer anything to help him solve his problem i would appreciate it if you left it up to us, we will deal with it and help him figure it out.
thank you
NHbmw325I 09-24-2007, 10:51 AM I didn't break the headlight corner guides, it broke during shipping. I remember pm'ing you a picture and you told me to use a soldering gun to fix it. I broke a plastic part on the actual corners, not the headlights. But right now I don't even care about that I just want to have working headlights, my VW died on me, I was using that to drive around at night. So right now I have nothing.. I will have pics up tonight.
Quailane has seen them in person, he is a friend of mine. He has looked at them a few times.
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