If so, I am trying to see if i can get interest from some of the local peeps to have chris (dr.vanos) come down from TX and do a mass install (I'm trying to see if I can make it worth his while).

for info/reviews on the unit:
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=822044
and
www.drvanos.com

I hear it does wonders for any of us that might have worn/noisy vanos units...:buttrock Post on here if you would be interested in having this done and maybe i can coordinate a date to have him do this for us..

Jon,

I'm a "maybe", depending on timing. Sorry I can't give a full committal at this point.

Terry

Nice idea... I'll definitely pass the word.

Do you have to take the cams out ton replace the vanos? If so, you might find a few people with m50 engines that want m3 cams installed to add to the list.

Do you have to take the cams out ton replace the vanos? If so, you might find a few people with m50 engines that want m3 cams installed to add to the list.

no, you dont have to take the cams out, however, im trying to convince him to put my cams in. Hopefully more expensive jobs like that will convince him to come down. Right now, he wants a minimum of 4-5 people for him to make the trip down.

-jon

yes. price?

yes. price?


$485. That's for a stage II kit, installed, and your old vanos.

hey chris, now that you saw this thread, would you be open to installing cams for a couple of us?

Subscribed , for my 95 m3

Subscribed , for my 95 m3

does that mean you are in?

hey chris, now that you saw this thread, would you be open to installing cams for a couple of us?

Yeah, once you have the vanos out, it's not much more work to swap the cams.. maybe another hour.

if he'll agree to put cams in for a few extra $ i might do it

hell, i might do it anyway, but my vanos seems fine..

Awesome!!! lets start getting a list together:


Username Work You Want done
1. M3j0n: Dr.Vanos stg 2, cam install, possible upper/lower tensioner if necessary
2.
3.
4.
5.

does that mean you are in?

No,sorry not in at this time.
I'am Gathering info. Besides I'am in the west coast of FL.

There is a meet on Thursday nights that I will spread the word to next week... maybe some of them will be interested.

Im in but first where is this planned on going down?

There is a meet on Thursday nights that I will spread the word to next week... maybe some of them will be interested.

thanks kev! I appreciate it! the more the merrier!

Im in but first where is this planned on going down?

add your name to the list. Once i have a list compiled, I will propose some spots that will be a compromise for all interested (to be fair). I wont speculate on the location until i find out who/where the interested parties are/coming from. FOr example, if 4 out of 5 people are from naples, then naples will be the location. If we are scattered around south FL, then we will pick a spot that works for all of us and allows chris a good spot for a vacation when hes done working :buttrock.

-Jon

bump! come on guys, lets get this done! Get some more power out of your motors!

Awesome!!! lets start getting a list together:


Username Work You Want done
1. M3j0n: Dr.Vanos stg 2, cam install, possible upper/lower tensioner if necessary
2.Garrett M Stage 1 kit.
3.
4.
5.
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sweet!! this will also serve as an opportunity for FL members to meet each other for the first time! woohoo!! Serge sign up for cam install!!! garrett, see if david will want some work done.

I would.. But im not rich. I still have a full tranny swap layin about that i wanna get done first :(

this is more important than the tranny,. :)

Where would this take place.... also I'm too lazy to read the entire 80pg thread. I have a '94 325i with 150k miles. Basically between 1000-3000ish RPM there is a lack of power, I.E.: If i floor it it will accelerate and around 3k just take off and when I'm at idle I have that annoying tin can/marbles/diesel engine sound. The VANOS causes that problem, no?

once i have a list of committed parties, i will contact chris and setup a date that works for everyone. BTW, hes having a group buy price on the units right now, so the sooner we have a list, the better!

once i have a list of committed parties, i will contact chris and setup a date that works for everyone. BTW, hes having a group buy price on the units right now, so the sooner we have a list, the better!


You guys are getting the super cheap install deal on this private GB, so no need to worry about getting one from the other GB.

nice :)

bumpage.... anyone?

i'd be interested in the group buy purchase as well. at least stage I. thx

hell yes. sign up on the list. Once i get a full list, ill contact chris and we can go from there with scheduling and locations.

Quote:
Originally Posted by m3j0n
Awesome!!! lets start getting a list together:


Username Work You Want done
1. M3j0n: Dr.Vanos stg 2, cam install, possible upper/lower tensioner if necessary
2.Garrett M Stage 1 kit.
3. jletend: 328i Stage I kit
4.
5.

I *may* not need the install as i work with a local mechanic and want to send him business but would love to know the GB price if it's decided yet? thank you

hmm.. i think we need people on the list that need install.

i understand. thanks for the reply. if i decide to do this job i'll just have to order it off his site. good luck and sorry i couldn't add to your list.

np. im sure we can find some more local peeps..

Do you have any idea *where* this will take place? I'll got anywhere but Sarasota/panhandle.

Do you have any idea *where* this will take place? I'll got anywhere but Sarasota/panhandle.



add your name to the list. Once i have a list compiled, I will propose some spots that will be a compromise for all interested (to be fair). I wont speculate on the location until i find out who/where the interested parties are/coming from. FOr example, if 4 out of 5 people are from naples, then naples will be the location. If we are scattered around south FL, then we will pick a spot that works for all of us and allows chris a good spot for a vacation when hes done working :buttrock.

-Jon

please read the thread....:confused. It looks like most people are in the southern part of florida, so we will decide on a place that is convenient for everyone. Sign up if youre still interested and we'll have another member in the southeast! :)

anyone else?
so far the list is as follows:

Username Work You Want done
1. M3j0n: Dr.Vanos stg 2, cam install, possible upper/lower tensioner if necessary
2.Garrett M Stage 1 kit.
3. jletend: 328i Stage I kit
4.
5.

Im down. stage 1, mabybe stage II if it will benefit my s/c setup in anyway.

sign up!! add your name! stg 2 would be best if you throw some cams in there. That's my plan.

what cams are you going to be running?
Thinking about it, I probably wont be running cams since my tune was not meant for them and I dont want to pay someone $8-1200 for a retune.
whats the eta for your car now?

what cams are you going to be running?
Thinking about it, I probably wont be running cams since my tune was not meant for them and I dont want to pay someone $8-1200 for a retune.
whats the eta for your car now?

Im either going to run the schricks or the sunbelts; im still undecided at this point. I Just got the car back from the bodyshop and it looks amazing; just in time for this amazing weather we're having :(:help. I'm not very pleased with the fitment of the vorsteiner hood, but they told me they would take care of it when the "new version" comes out. Anyway, the next task is getting that clutch/flywheel in, then going the vanos work for the twinscrew install.:buttrock

Regardless, you should add your name to the list.

anyone else?
so far the list is as follows:

Username Work You Want done
1. M3j0n: Dr.Vanos stg 2, cam install, possible upper/lower tensioner if necessary
2.Garrett M Stage 1 kit.
3. jletend: 328i Stage I kit
4.Bimmeracer3 Stage 1 Kit
5.

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AWESOME~!. I'll see if hes willing to do it for 4 people.

btw, does that price on his website include installation?

Hey if its close and i have the time off, I will take the stage 2

where in FL are you located?

How much more labor would it be to do the retainers on my 95 at the same time??

Hey i live in Jupiter, I work at Winecountrymotorsports

How much more labor would it be to do the retainers on my 95 at the same time??

I'd really like to keep this limited to the vanos kits, and maybe one or two sets of cams. Swapping 24 retainers is an all day deal.

Looks like were getting close to 5 people. You guys who are just wanting the stage I should think about the stage II... Much nicer kit, it will last longer, run smoother and is only $120 more.

would stage 2 be any benefit to us who are using stock cams?

[quote=ceegeezM3;10816297]I'd really like to keep this limited to the vanos kits, and maybe one or two sets of cams. Swapping 24 retainers is an all day deal.

I understand, I think Im just trying to get out of doing this myself :( . My Vanos isn't makig any noises (yet), but in your experience should I takle the retainers before I do anything else, its a 95 with 94k on the clock.

would stage 2 be any benefit to us who are using stock cams?

Definitely!

Regardless of cams, the stage II has several nice upgrades that just makes the vanos work better and last a lot longer, so any engine will benefit from it.

I usually recommend the stage II if you are going to do cams because you have to take all that stuff off anyway, so you might as well upgrade it while you're in there... but that doesn't mean that you can't benefit if you have stock cams.


should I takle the retainers before I do anything else, its a 95 with 94k on the clock.

With that many miles, I wouldn't worry about it. If you track the car a lot and have schrick cams, then yes, I would upgrade... but if it's just a daily driver there's no reason to upgrade now.

Hey if its close and i have the time off, I will take the stage 2

add your name to the list!

yo chris,

hit me up on AIM when you get a chance. I'm totally serious about doing this as soon as you can manage to get some free time :).

so far the list is as follows:

Username Work You Want done
1. M3j0n: Dr.Vanos stg 2, cam install, possible upper/lower tensioner if necessary
2.Garrett M Stage 1 kit.
3. jletend: 328i Stage I kit
4.Bimmeracer3 Stage 1 Kit
5.

iirc, cams require a retune?

generally...yes.

Username Work You Want done
1. M3j0n: Dr.Vanos stg 2, cam install, possible upper/lower tensioner if necessary
2.Garrett M Stage 1 kit.
3. jletend: 328i Stage I kit
4.Bimmeracer3 Stage 1 Kit
5.Bimlet57 Stage 2 kit

VERY NICE!!!

Chris, lets make this work ASAP :)

To the guys on the list, can you add your locations so we can figure out the best place to have this done.


Username Work You Want done Location
1. M3j0n: Dr.Vanos stg 2, cam install, possible upper/lower tensioner if necessary (Boca Raton)
2.Garrett M Stage 1 kit.
3. jletend: 328i Stage I kit
4.Bimmeracer3 Stage 1 Kit
5.Bimlet57 Stage 2 kit

VERY NICE!!!

Chris, lets make this work ASAP :)

To the guys on the list, can you add your locations so we can figure out the best place to have this done.


Username Work You Want done Location
1. M3j0n: Dr.Vanos stg 2, cam install, possible upper/lower tensioner if necessary (Boca Raton)
2.Garrett M Stage 1 kit.
3. jletend: 328i Stage I kit
4.Bimmeracer3 Stage 1 Kit Royal Palm Beach
5.Bimlet57 Stage 2 kit
.

Chris, lets make this work ASAP

I'm ready, just let me know when and we can work out the details off line.

Username Work You Want done Location
1. M3j0n: Dr.Vanos stg 2, cam install, possible upper/lower tensioner if necessary (Boca Raton)
2.Garrett M Stage 1 kit.
3. jletend: 328i Stage I kit
4.Bimmeracer3 Stage 1 Kit Royal Palm Beach
5.Bimlet57 Stage 2 kit

can you other guys add your locations please so I can plan on a FAIR meeting place for install?

Chris, what kind of facilities do you need for this type of install? Would access to a lift be helpful, etc?

1. M3j0n: Dr.Vanos stg 2, cam install, possible upper/lower tensioner if necessary (Boca Raton)
2.Garrett M Stage 1 kit.
3. jletend: 328i Stage I kit
4.Bimmeracer3 Stage 1 Kit Royal Palm Beach
5.Bimlet57 Stage 2 kit Jupiter

If you want i can plan for somthing in jupiter at my shop.

Chris, what kind of facilities do you need for this type of install? Would access to a lift be helpful, etc?

Just a garage would be fine, no lift required.

Of course A/C would be nice, cold beverages, flat screen tv, etc. :D

fantastic!

1. M3j0n: Dr.Vanos stg 2, cam install, possible upper/lower tensioner if necessary (Boca Raton)
2.Garrett M Stage 1 kit. ARE YOU IN BOCA OR NAPLES?
3. jletend: 328i Stage I kit WHERE RE YOU LOCATED?
4.Bimmeracer3 Stage 1 Kit Royal Palm Beach
5.Bimlet57 Stage 2 kit Jupiter

If you want i can plan for somthing in jupiter at my shop.

Sounds good. I have a place in Pompano where we can have it done. I can bring the drinks/beer. But no TV :(... The computer plays DVDs though :)

How would a meathead know if the vanos has left the stage and needs to be replaced?

becomes louder/makes weird noises (not 100% of the time), gradual power loss that probably isnt noticeable because its been so gradual....

check out www.drvanos.com

i have a 6th person signed up (in North Palm Beach County), but wishes to remain nameless. If we do end up with 6 people, chris has offered to take off another $25 per person!!!

Now we need to decide when/where this is going to take place... I'm still waiting for a couple of you to list where youre coming from so I can plan the most acceptable location for all involved...

1. M3j0n: Dr.Vanos stg 2, cam install, possible upper/lower tensioner if necessary (Boca Raton)
2.Garrett M Stage 1 kit. ARE YOU IN BOCA OR NAPLES?
3. jletend: 328i Stage I kit WHERE RE YOU LOCATED?
4.Bimmeracer3 Stage 1 Kit Royal Palm Beach
5.Bimlet57 Stage 2 kit Jupiter
6. "mysteryman" stg 2 North Palm beach

i have a 6th person signed up (in North Palm Beach County), but wishes to remain nameless. If we do end up with 6 people, chris has offered to take off another $25 per person!!!

Now we need to decide when/where this is going to take place... I'm still waiting for a couple of you to list where youre coming from so I can plan the most acceptable location for all involved...

1. M3j0n: Dr.Vanos stg 2, cam install, possible upper/lower tensioner if necessary (Boca Raton)
2.Garrett M Stage 1 kit. ARE YOU IN BOCA OR NAPLES?
3. jletend: 328i Stage I kit WHERE RE YOU LOCATED?
4.Bimmeracer3 Stage 1 Kit Royal Palm Beach
5.Bimlet57 Stage 2 kit Jupiter
6. "mysteryman" stg 2 North Palm beach


I am in Naples. How for sure is this?

damn near 95% :)like i said, if we get a sixth person, he'll knock off another 25 bucks.

my question is as follows would there be another visitation from dr. vanos at a later date? sometime after the new year, also included, this time some where btw tampa and ft. myers. i think thats how i want to phrase that.

Hey When can we set a date for Him to come?

Hey When can we set a date for Him to come?

im currently workign on that... everyone needs to tell me if they are free on weekends. I also need to find out the best compromise for the location.

my question is as follows would there be another visitation from dr. vanos at a later date? sometime after the new year, also included, this time some where btw tampa and ft. myers. i think thats how i want to phrase that.

no. its already a stretch to have heim come down here for this.



1. M3j0n: Dr.Vanos stg 2, cam install, possible upper/lower tensioner if necessary (Boca Raton)
2.Garrett M Stage 1 kit. Naples
3. jletend: 328i Stage I kit WHERE RE YOU LOCATED?
4.Bimmeracer3 Stage 1 Kit Royal Palm Beach
5.Bimlet57 Stage 2 kit Jupiter
6. "mysteryman" stg 2 North Palm beach

Garrett, would you be willing to drive over to the east coast to have this done? (i think you have a home over here in boca if im not mistaken, right?)

i wish i didn't spend my money on the rsc36 exhaust.

I don't live in Boca, I used to go to school there. I am on the other coast now...

If I can be one of the first to go so I can leave earlier to make it back at an OK time because of the drive ill be more then happy.

just a heads up, my car is having down time and I dont have anyone local to check to see if its the HFM. I plan on towing it on tuesday to RoadNRace and then I will update you guys on my car then.

Ok put me down for a stage II if Chris can take my payment by credit card or paypal ahead of time.

Ok put me down for a stage II if Chris can take my payment by credit card or paypal ahead of time.

add your name to the list and fill out the info.:buttrock

So can we get a final price on stage one?

Ok put me down for a stage II if Chris can take my payment by credit card or paypal ahead of time.


Yeah, I can do that if needed. Prefer cash to avoid paypal fees if possible, but whatever works.


So can we get a final price on stage one?

It would be $365 installed, but I will take another $25 off once 6 or more people have paid.

Wow.

Love the drvanos site.. it's great you've got a video to confirm the noise I've been hearing is my vanos unit taking a dump.

Lately it's been rattling pretty bad in between shifts.. and now I'm hearing a worn bearing kinda sound on the highway.. not to mention it seems there are times my power is kinda poopy :( like it is working most the time, but sometimes it's not.

Chris, I seen you rent out the special tools.. are they often available for rental? Are they also the tools needed to swap out cams too while at it.. in case I get ahold of S50 cams and wanna put them in whilst I replace the vanos?

If you were closer, I'd get in on this deal myself.. but goin clear down there is just too much of of a trip.

Great thread!

I was just wondering if there are any dates thrown out there yet. IF not what would be the best day of the week to do this. I know that Sundays and any day in the week is good for me. I just really want to get this done my vanos is driving me crazy!!!!!!!!!!!

So I think my "VANOS noise" actually is the alternator belt or tensioner.

So I think my "VANOS noise" actually is the alternator belt or tensioner.

so are you in or not? If you are, please add your name to the list and fill in your info. We can start thinking about a date for this. I think weekends would probably be best, right?

Depending on my money situation, im still undecided.

so are you in or not? If you are, please add your name to the list and fill in your info. We can start thinking about a date for this. I think weekends would probably be best, right?

I'm not sure. "VANOS noise" only at idle, if I turn off the A/c (blower motor draws alot of power), headlamps & radio the noise basically goes away the RPMS don't drop at all. I know the belts are cracked...

ok, well i think we have 6 even without these guys... lets get a location and date established.

my vanos sounds like crazy maracas!!! but I don't have the necessary funds right now :(

my vanos sounds like crazy maracas!!! but I don't have the necessary funds right now :(

steal, loot, and pillage. FIND THE FUNDS. Itll be worth it.. i assure you. Its like getting a new car!

Ok. Problem. I might have to skip out on this.

pussy ;)

Let me know around what time you guys are looking to get this done, because my car is still not running and I am not sure how much $$$ it is going to cost to get it running.
What would be the price for the kit if you come down, but dont install the kit, if we get the 6 people?
I would like to know just encase I cannot get my car running in time.

with 6 people, he will knock off another 25 bucks

who cannot have it done from this list>?

1. M3j0n: Dr.Vanos stg 2, cam install, possible upper/lower tensioner if necessary (Boca Raton)
2.Garrett M Stage 1 kit. Naples
3. jletend: 328i Stage I kit WHERE RE YOU LOCATED?
4.Bimmeracer3 Stage 1 Kit Royal Palm Beach
5.Bimlet57 Stage 2 kit Jupiter
6. "mysteryman" stg 2 North Palm beach

Hey if everyone wants they can come up on a saturday and have a DR. Vanos install/BMW MEET. Its right of 95 or the turn pike. WE have a nice set up. Check out the site wine country motor sports .com.

taht would be great.. but remember im getting chris to come to florida from texas, so we have to give him a heads up. I need to know that we have 6 people for sure and have them prepay before he comes...

well i am in, and as for a date on a saturday lets have Chris decide on this one.

Take me off the list its the a/c compressor in my car.

what is the price without install on the group buy for Stage II w/ Sunbelt cams. My engine is being worked on now and I'm interested since it is apart to perhaps take care of this at the same time... I never noticed noise, but I'm at 140k miles and if this helps with the sunbelt cams then I am in.

what is the price without install on the group buy for Stage II w/ Sunbelt cams. My engine is being worked on now and I'm interested since it is apart to perhaps take care of this at the same time... I never noticed noise, but I'm at 140k miles and if this helps with the sunbelt cams then I am in.
i am +1 on this question.

but i noticed a lil noise so i am gettin intrested to get the re-pair done.

what is the price without install on the group buy for Stage II w/ Sunbelt cams.

If you just want to order the kit and install it yourself, shoot me a PM for info.

hey chris, i was discussing this with pat (renegade bmw here on the forums). He is an experienced wrench and was discussing with him that I was going to be doing this.

Regarding how the vanos works, he was saying that it was like v-tec (on at high rpm off at low rpm) whereas, i alwasy thought it varies the intake cam throughout the entire rpm range.

HE also said that if the vanos isnt workign properly, itll throw a CEL. I always thought that the vanos could become sluggish over time and even the solenoid can go bad w/o throwing a CEL.

Does the vanos get progressively bad over time, or is it one of those things thats either working, or not working? BAsically his advice to me was to leave it alone unless i can definitely diagnose it as a problem.

Can I have your thoughts on those points please? Im still in for the GB regardless.

Regarding how the vanos works, he was saying that it was like v-tec (on at high rpm off at low rpm) whereas, i alwasy thought it varies the intake cam throughout the entire rpm range.

Well, you're actually both wrong. :D


The vanos advances the intake cam at low rpms (when under load, and other specific conditions are met... but not by just revving the engine), and stays advanced until 4-5k rpm, then it retards back to it's normal position.

Advancing the intake cam at low rpm helps fill the cylinders more efficiently by creating some valve overlap, so the exhaust gases rushing out will actually help pull the intake charge into the cylinders = more low rpm power. This is why a failing vanos kills your low end torque. If it doesn't advance the intake cam, you get a pittance of air/fuel and the engine bogs down until 4k or so, and then it pulls like a mother to red line because the engine now has serious air velocity going on. At high rpm's you no longer need (or want) that kind of valve overlap, so it retards the intake cam back to the normal position.

The vanos can fail for a couple of reasons, but usually the oil seals shrink up and you don't get enough oil pressure behind the vanos piston to fully advance the cam, or the piston seizes up (due to metal on metal contact) and does nothing when the DME tries to advance it.

Since there are literally 4 or 5 things that can go wrong with a vanos, you may or may not get a CEL. Typically you never get a CEL and you don't even notice the loss of low end torque because you've become used to it or attribute it to something else in the engine. I've also seen cases where the vanos would only randomly work, and sometimes you'd have all kinds of low end torque and other times it would just bog.

I can't tell you how many customers have said their car feels noticeably quicker with a fresh vanos installed, even though they initially bought it to cure the rattle... especially now that most people are hitting the 100k mile mark on these cars.

Keep in mind that the rattling does not always mean a failing vanos, and vice-versa, but if the car has a ton of miles I can almost guarantee that the vanos is not operating at 100%, whether it rattles or not. It's got moving parts, and it can definitely wear out.

thanks.. no wonder they call you DR. vanos :). Ill send pat a link to this explanation. Thanks a ton! I cant wait to get my stg 2 :)!

I spoke with Chris yesterday evening regarding my particular situation. Extremely helpful and a great communicator. I'm not knowledgeable on w.r.t engines, cams, timing, etc... Chris explained it well. I ordered the stage II w/ sunbelt limiter.

JOIN US FOR OUR GB INSTALL!! We'll all save 25 bucks if you will be our sixth!

My engine is completely disassembled atm at a local shop... undergoing some surgery... I simply plan on swapping out vanos while its apart.

allright already ,


I bet everyone is ready to get it underway , like myself, its been long enough driving with the vanos rattle . the cool weather has my car begging to revive its vanos.
I really thought I would rather do it myself but the way things are going that might not be till spring


count me in for a stage II:buttrock

I am in for a stage two set up , as long as i can pay with pay pal ....
put me on the list

can you add your name to the list and also include your Florida location? thanks! you will be our 6th and save us all 25 more bucks!!

1. M3j0n: Dr.Vanos stg 2, cam install, possible upper/lower tensioner if necessary (Boca Raton)
2.Garrett M Stage 1 kit. Naples
3. jletend: 328i Stage I kit ?
4.Bimmeracer3 Stage 1 Kit Royal Palm Beach
5.Bimlet57 Stage 2 kit Jupiter
6: belligerent, stage 2 , boynton beach ! ! ! ! !
:alright



is it all still a go?

it hasnt been too long a wait for Dr Vanos has it ???

hell yea! im trying to set it up at brad's (bimlet) shop in jupiter. since that seems to be the most convenient place for all of us.

i think garrett is out though.,

if this was in the spring I would come, hopefully we can get another one of these going come spring time

ummm.... this will be taking place in south FL.. i see youre located in Cali...

Whats the price down to now?

do you want it installed? or jsut the part?

ummm.... this will be taking place in south FL.. i see youre located in Cali...

umm road trip!!:buttrock

umm road trip!!:buttrock

hahaha... sounds good, but didnt you just crash your car and now its for sale?:confused

installed.

hahaha... sounds good, but didnt you just crash your car and now its for sale?:confused

purely cosemetics, going to body shop tomorrow. If its more than 2k to fix, either i'm selling it as is or parting it out. There will be another E36 M3 in the picture very soon don't worry, and I highly doubt it will have the DR VANOS already

installed.

Impressions?

so, i take it this gonna happen in january?

im trying to get this thing done ASAP, but some of these fools keep dropping out or making excuses why they cant take the plunge on this awesome part!:)

went to a local bmw race shop and they quoted me 3 hours labor to do the install, that might be worth it. I'll order the kit after xmas

Hey jon let get a date for this ASAP DEC or JAN

Jon
any updates ?




Bimlet,

what kinda facilities do you have there?
do you repair/ work on bmws there ?


luckily this noisy vanos thing isnt an absolutely critical part of driving the car. mine seems to totally be on and off with the noise and probably function too, but its not reall bad. WOuld be nice to know its working well by performance and sound ..:D

belligerent
we dont work on cars we sell everthing for them like SPARCO,MOMO,OMP,COBRA and so on. Look on the site
winecountrymotorsports.com We are having some really good sales in the store right now for the holiday. But only in the store not on the web

i recommend buying from brad. Great guy.

Hey jon let get a date for this ASAP DEC or JAN


Yes, we need to get this done asap! I have 6 vanos units here that are ready to be installed, so anytime is good with me really. I hate to wait much longer, but since Christmas is coming up maybe we could get a date set in early January.

chris, trust me, i would love to do this tomorrow if these jokers would join me:lol

Again, how much for everything?

Again, how much for everything?


3 - 5 people
$365 installed for the Stage I
$485 installed for the Stage II
plus your old vanos.

6 or more people and I'll take another $25 off.

whats the diff btw stage 1 and 2 ?

whats the diff btw stage 1 and 2 ?

come on man, please make some sort of effort.... www.drvanos.com... :confused

I am a possible for the stage 2 kit installed , the main detail for me would be the date this is set up for . I live in bradenton/sarasota area and only have tuesdays and most sundays off, or i could possibly get off early on a saturday , but i think jupiter is a couple hours away . Subscribed for a date set up . Thanks

forgot to subscribe :shifty

ok so i will do it for stage 2. just need a date 2 weeks in advance so i can take off work.

ok guys... please add your names to the list...

1. M3j0n: Dr.Vanos stg 2, cam install, possible upper/lower tensioner if necessary (Boca Raton)
2.Garrett M Stage 1 kit. Naples
3. jletend: 328i Stage I kit ?
4.Bimmeracer3 Stage 1 Kit Royal Palm Beach
5.Bimlet57 Stage 2 kit Jupiter
6: belligerent, stage 2 , boynton beach ! ! ! ! !
7.racer m , stage 2, sarasota , 2 weeks noticeable if possible before this happens

1. M3j0n: Dr.Vanos stg 2, cam install, possible upper/lower tensioner if necessary (Boca Raton)
2.Garrett M Stage 1 kit. Naples
3. jletend: 328i Stage I kit ?
4.Bimmeracer3 Stage 1 Kit Royal Palm Beach
5.Bimlet57 Stage 2 kit Jupiter
6: belligerent, stage 2 , boynton beach ! ! ! ! !
7.racer m , stage 2, sarasota , 2 weeks noticeable if possible before this happens
8. Phantom3: stage 2 , bradenton , pending install date

1. M3j0n: Dr.Vanos stg 2, cam install, possible upper/lower tensioner if necessary (Boca Raton)
2.Garrett M Stage 1 kit. Naples
3. jletend: 328i Stage I kit ?
4.Bimmeracer3 Stage 1 Kit Royal Palm Beach
5.Bimlet57 Stage 2 kit Jupiter
6: belligerent, stage 2 , boynton beach ! ! ! ! !
7.racer m , stage 2, sarasota , 2 weeks noticeable if possible before this happens
8. Phantom3: stage 2 , bradenton , pending install date

just got a PM from this guy bitching that he was removed from the list... please add him:

9. "mysteryman" stg 2 North Palm beach






so the current list is :

1. M3j0n: Dr.Vanos stg 2, cam install, possible upper/lower tensioner if necessary (Boca Raton)
2.Garrett M Stage 1 kit. Naples
3. jletend: 328i Stage I kit ?
4.Bimmeracer3 Stage 1 Kit Royal Palm Beach
5.Bimlet57 Stage 2 kit Jupiter
6: belligerent, stage 2 , boynton beach ! ! ! ! !
7.racer m , stage 2, sarasota , 2 weeks noticeable if possible before this happens
8. Phantom3: stage 2 , bradenton , pending install date
9. "mysteryman" stg 2 North Palm beach

so the current list is :

1. M3j0n: Dr.Vanos stg 2, cam install, possible upper/lower tensioner if necessary (Boca Raton)
2.Garrett M Stage 1 kit. Naples
3. jletend: 328i Stage I kit ?
4.Bimmeracer3 Stage 1 Kit Royal Palm Beach
5.Bimlet57 Stage 2 kit Jupiter
6: belligerent, stage 2 , boynton beach ! ! ! ! !
7.racer m , stage 2, sarasota , 2 weeks noticeable if possible before this happens(paying cash)
8. Phantom3: stage 2 , bradenton , pending install date
9. "mysteryman" stg 2 North Palm beach

what is the ltest up date????

are we all fine with a saturday or sunday?

are we all fine with a saturday or sunday?

With 9 (or more) people signed up we may have to do both. :eyecrazy

;) and im doing cams as well. I just want to make sure everyone on the lsit is good to go on a sat or sunday. btw, any discount for more than 6 ;) this is gonna be a nice payday(s) for you, chris!

just give us a date so i can take one or both days off.

this will be worth the wait, if it happens soon :stickoutt

im ready to go as soon as i find a schrick exhasut cam. literally any weekend will work for me. guys, we need a roll call for available weekends to do this so we can book chris' plane ticket in advance.

Any sunday in january is great for me , and maybe a saturday with some notice . hurry up though before i decide to add cams as well :D .

dates for sat. & sun. dates in january are 5-6, 12-13,19-20, 26-27.
lets make this happen

dates for sat. & sun. dates in january are 5-6, 12-13,19-20, 26-27.
lets make this happen

hehehe chris should tell us when HE is available first... hes the vital link ;) Plus, the further in advance the ticket is purchased, the more discount will be available.

hey chris,

when you get a free minute, visit this thread: http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showpost.php?p=2643179&postcount=1

apparently he says there is something wrong with your install.. Id love to know what hes talking about... fill us in please.

hey chris,

when you get a free minute, visit this thread: http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showpost.php?p=2643179&postcount=1

apparently he says there is something wrong with your install.. Id love to know what hes talking about... fill us in please.


So would I. :D I guess my DIY document is missing something.

dates for sat. & sun. dates in january are 5-6, 12-13,19-20, 26-27.

I think the first two weekends are a little too soon to get all the details worked out. How about the 26-27?

So would I. :D I guess my DIY document is missing something.

you should post on the thread and ask.. I REALLY want to know!!! Maybe he knows something you dont :lol


I think the first two weekends are a little too soon to get all the details worked out. How about the 26-27?

can you get that many vanos units ready by then? btw, how long should it take to get a schrick cam if i order it after Xmas? I definitely want you to install that while youre doing my vanos.

you should post on the thread and ask.. I REALLY want to know!!! Maybe he knows something you dont :lol

I did ask, and it was about a testing procedure. Not anything new... it's all in the BMW TIS documentation.

Can you get that many vanos units ready by then? btw, how long should it take to get a schrick cam if i order it after Xmas? I definitely want you to install that while youre doing my vanos.

Yeah, I have already ordered and started work on the 9 kits you listed, so I should have them ready in a week or so.

awesome! where do you recommend i order the exhaust cam from? Do you think now would be the time t upgrade the retainers? or is that a lot of work?

awesome! where do you recommend i order the exhaust cam from? Do you think now would be the time t upgrade the retainers? or is that a lot of work?

Yeah that's a lot of work! Several hours.

Have you tried Turner for the cam?

Yeah that's a lot of work! Several hours.

Have you tried Turner for the cam?

nah, ill make sure to call them when they reopen after the holidays. Is its significantly less labor to do the cam install? hit me up onaim when you get a chance.

used exhaust system , or brand new. rsc36 is nice and deep pm if you want a clip of me and mine.

Hi Folks -

Is it true that 528i 1998 e39's don't have a Vanos issue? Reading up on the topic is quite scary from expense point of view.

THX.

updates?

im ready to go as soon as i find a schrick exhasut cam. literally any weekend will work for me. guys, we need a roll call for available weekends to do this so we can book chris' plane ticket in advance.

is everyone available on weekends?... lets add a field for "availability" to the list.

so the current list is :

1. M3j0n: Dr.Vanos stg 2, cam install, possible upper/lower tensioner if necessary (Boca Raton)
2.Garrett M Stage 1 kit. Naples
3. jletend: 328i Stage I kit ?
4.Bimmeracer3 Stage 1 Kit Royal Palm Beach
5.Bimlet57 Stage 2 kit Jupiter
6: belligerent, stage 2 , boynton beach ! ! ! ! !
7.racer m , stage 2, sarasota , 2 weeks noticeable if possible before this happens(paying cash)uasally at the end off the months.
8. Phantom3: stage 2 , bradenton , pending install date
9. "mysteryman" stg 2 North Palm beach

so the current list is :

1. M3j0n: Dr.Vanos stg 2, cam install, possible upper/lower tensioner if necessary (Boca Raton) is free generally every weekend and can plan for a day during the week given a bit of notice.
2.Garrett M Stage 1 kit. Naples
3. jletend: 328i Stage I kit ?
4.Bimmeracer3 Stage 1 Kit Royal Palm Beach
5.Bimlet57 Stage 2 kit Jupiter
6: belligerent, stage 2 , boynton beach ! ! ! ! !
7.racer m , stage 2, sarasota , 2 weeks noticeable if possible before this happens(paying cash)uasally at the end off the months.
8. Phantom3: stage 2 , bradenton , pending install date
9. "mysteryman" stg 2 North Palm beach

done... come on guys!

done... come on guys!

I'm still working on these kits, and should be able to have them ready in a week or so. Should we just pick a date and stick with it? It's going to be tough to get everyone to commit just by asking. We need to just set a firm date and run with it or no one will step up.

this is srs bsns

this is srs bsns
off topic, we should roll down there together , i'm near you in bradenton .


Any sunday is ok with me and I could probably get a saturday off if need be.

off topic, we should roll down there together , i'm near you in bradenton .


Any sunday is ok with me and I could probably get a saturday off if need be.

i could do a sunday, but as long as i am givin a 10 day notice its all good. we could meet near state road 72 aka clark exit 205 or 203. i hardly use I-75 now a days:(

any updates?

Can someone i.m me ? or did this already take place ? I havent seen anything about this lately

chris, im at the point where I am jsut gonna have you ship me one.... will you honor the GB price if i do that? Its jsut been impossible to get people to commit. So many excuses and shit and I just dont have time for this nonsense. let em know.

Jon,

Sorry i just noticed your last post. I was afraid it would turn out like this, it's difficult to round up that many people at once.

If anyone on the list is still interested in buying a kit, please let me know.
The installation is really very straight forward and I do have tool kits for rent and very thorough DIY documents.

Thanks

Sad everyone flaked out. I have been tracking this thread with interest.

Before the thread dies, are the single vanos vehicles (1998 528i) as likely to fail as the double vanos?

Thanks.

Sad everyone flaked out. I have been tracking this thread with interest.

Before the thread dies, are the single vanos vehicles (1998 528i) as likely to fail as the double vanos?

Thanks.


As old as these cars are now, they can all benefit from a new vanos, even without the rattle. The seals are what goes bad and causes the poor performance issues.

http://drvanos.com/seals

All my kits come with new seals installed.

RE: VANOS

I know you want to sell parts and services, but you did not answer my question. You are welcome to try again. THX.

Haha, yes... let's try again.

Are the single vanos vehicles (1998 528i) as likely to fail as the double vanos?

Well, they don't fail so much as they just become less effective. The dual vanos units are obviously affected more by the worn seals and therefore shows more obvious symptoms like stalling and power hiccups. The single vanos doesn't seem to do this nearly as bad, but it is a noticeable difference once you get a fresh vanos in there with new seals.

So to try and answer your question, neither vanos completely fails... the seals just harden over time and cause the vanos to do funny things. The single vanos is less affected because it has 1/4 the number of seals as the dual vanos, so I guess you could say it's not quite as noticeable with those cars.

Ahhh... very nice and thank you very much. Appreciate the response. I thought I had read or heard somewhere that single vanos systems weren't as bad.

My 106k 528i seems to perform smoothly and quietly throughout the acceleration curve. I don't notice any unevenness, hiccups or choking.

Is there a way to measureably determine the improvement or know what the difference would be once completed if you don't notice any symptoms upfront?

Wish I had known of this before I replaced water pump, thermostat (which had just fallen apart) and some hoses, pulley / tensioner, etc. over the last year.

I didn't replace the fan and shroud so maybe if I go in to have that done the Vanos work would be a good idea at that time. Assuming I can find an indy to do it!

Thanks again.