View Full Version : Modded M5 vrs. E55 (modded?)


GMM
08-19-2007, 11:55 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqrjTd_lZEk

Not sure if the E55 is stock but it probably is...

VADER13
08-20-2007, 12:00 AM
I have driven both cars, there is no way its like that no way..the M5 seems to have a bit more of a pull when in the 3rd gear and up but it'snot even close to being like that, when the E55 gets going, it takes the F-Off..
The M5 feels a bit more crisp though the gears and the E55 feels a bit sluggish..it's a pretty even race.
Stock to stock..
Remember the E55 is S/C and with just a little ol chip it puts out close to 600hp..

GMM
08-20-2007, 12:05 AM
I have driven both cars, there is no way its like that no way..the M5 seems to have a bit more of a pull when in the 3rd gear and up but it'snot even close to being like that, when the E55 gets going, it takes the F-Off..
The M5 feels a bit more crisp though the gears and the E55 feels a bit sluggish..it's a pretty even race.
Stock to stock..
Remember the E55 is S/C and with just a little ol chip it puts out close to 600hp..


Well...Thats the outcome in that video. Like I said I don't know if the E55 is stock.

VADER13
08-20-2007, 12:06 AM
It does not even seem like the E55 was pushing it modded or not.
TO make 600 the E55 needs a pully and Chip but it's a simple mod.
TO have that much of a lead the M5 would need some F/I and that's major work and $.
Looks like he has done everything but the F/I after I read his thing.

GMM
08-20-2007, 12:11 AM
It does not even seem like the E55 was pushing it modded or not.
TO make 600 the E55 needs a pully and Chip but it's a simple mod.
TO have that much of a lead the M5 would need some F/I and that's major work and $.
Looks like he has done everything but the F/I after I read his thing.


Here is another from the same user http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTu4AnUsjYA&mode=user&search=

MD318is
08-20-2007, 12:11 AM
Is this video new? I have seen the same or a very similar video and it was discussed at length how it seemed very odd to pull that much.

GMM
08-20-2007, 12:13 AM
Is this video new? I have seen the same or a very similar video and it was discussed at length how it seemed very odd to pull that much.

I don't know I'm just posting it.

Aerosoul
08-20-2007, 12:16 AM
The same user has several videos. Another one he indicates the cars (M5 and E55) in the vid are both stock, and it's a much closer race.
Here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOnCjm0feH0

ellinopedo182
08-20-2007, 12:16 AM
e55 are faster than that. the m5 needs serious mods to get it REAL Fast, e55 needs a chip to be VERY FAST.

FrankW
08-20-2007, 01:08 AM
nice vid...e55 looks stock :)

but the dudes in the M5 sounds too cocky....

DLSJ5
08-20-2007, 01:25 AM
Stock for stock the M5 will easily pull after 100 on the E55. Here's a vid where a stock M6 walks an E55 with a Kleeman K4 kit . Stock for stock the M6 is only marginally faster than an M5, the M5/M6 are beasts on the highway.

youtube.com/watch?v=Q17bTXt7paA

ellinopedo182
08-20-2007, 02:34 AM
Stock for stock the M5 will easily pull after 100 on the E55. Here's a vid where a stock M6 walks an E55 with a Kleeman K4 kit . Stock for stock the M6 is only marginally faster than an M5, the M5/M6 are beasts on the highway.

youtube.com/watch?v=Q17bTXt7paA

LOL. that video is complete BS. an e55 with the kleeman k4 will have about 640hp. How can a 150-200lbs lighter car (m6) with 140 less hp beat it that badly top end. im just trying to understand rationally.

JuM3
08-20-2007, 03:06 AM
oh man kleeman ecu on the e55, first/next upgrade, but i can't seem to find 6 grand lying around.

FrankW
08-20-2007, 04:13 AM
LOL. that video is complete BS. an e55 with the kleeman k4 will have about 640hp. How can a 150-200lbs lighter car (m6) with 140 less hp beat it that badly top end. im just trying to understand rationally.

because people believes in BS? :devillook:D:D

Jimmy540i.com
08-20-2007, 04:35 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqrjTd_lZEk

Not sure if the E55 is stock but it probably is...


how's that possible?

legendary
08-20-2007, 05:34 AM
thye don't look like they are trying....well, a least the MB driver does not.:embarrasm

blackbenzz
08-20-2007, 09:55 AM
LOL. that video is complete BS. an e55 with the kleeman k4 will have about 640hp. How can a 150-200lbs lighter car (m6) with 140 less hp beat it that badly top end. im just trying to understand rationally.
Its the magical badging.

Dont make me post a bunch of vids of benzes killing modded and stock M5/6's

Shodanusmc
08-20-2007, 10:00 AM
I have a stock 06 E55, my brother has a stock M5. Running up to 100, he has never beaten me.

Then again on this board, 16 year old Garrett's 318 pretty much takes anything on the road.

blackbenzz
08-20-2007, 10:26 AM
Then again on this board, 16 year old Garrett's 318 pretty much takes anything on the road.
... and in the water or air.

EvilEmpirE
08-20-2007, 10:34 AM
how's that possible?


it is absolutely legit in my eyes. I have ran stock E55s and stock M5s, as well as modded E55s and modded M5s. The M5 in the vid is modded (underdrive pulley, charcoal filters removed, exhaust, 2nd cat delete, ECU) vs a basically stock E55 AMG (exhaust only i believe).

FACT: Stock for stock though.....an E55 AMG is faster to 100 MPH, but after, the M5 will pull ahead and continue.......

EvilEmpirE
08-20-2007, 10:37 AM
I have driven both cars, there is no way its like that no way..the M5 seems to have a bit more of a pull when in the 3rd gear and up but it'snot even close to being like that, when the E55 gets going, it takes the F-Off..
The M5 feels a bit more crisp though the gears and the E55 feels a bit sluggish..it's a pretty even race.
Stock to stock..
Remember the E55 is S/C and with just a little ol chip it puts out close to 600hp..

why not come out and run a couple M5's soon? You and perhaps PSK145 (moderator on this board) can come out and run a pair of M5's in the OC area. Then you can find out for sure by lining up both cars? Couple E55's, couple of M5's....sounds pretty fun =)

GTP540
08-20-2007, 10:37 AM
Its the magical badging.

Dont make me post a bunch of vids of benzes killing modded and stock M5/6's


I'd like to see a few....:D

ohnoes
08-20-2007, 10:39 AM
it is absolutely legit in my eyes. I have ran stock E55s and stock M5s, as well as modded E55s and modded M5s. The M5 in the vid is modded (underdrive pulley, charcoal filters removed, exhaust, 2nd cat delete, ECU) vs a basically stock E55 AMG (exhaust only i believe).

FACT: Stock for stock though.....an E55 AMG is faster to 100 MPH, but after, the M5 will pull ahead and continue.......

I do not buy that the E55 is faster to 100 MPH. I think they are pretty even...driver's race.

Shodanusmc
08-20-2007, 10:42 AM
Does anyone have any numbers to compare the E55/M5 times from 100 to 140 ish? We all realize that to 100 the E55 will take it, TORQUE...TORQUE TORQUE, but I doubt that an M5 will blow by at at 120. Then again, .02 seconfs when traveling at 120 is quite a bit of distance. Here, with rush hour, I really do not have to worry about someone running by me at 120 MPH on a daily basis. Now when I had my Jeep SRT, it would take both of them stop light to stop light. That was WET or DRY>

prash
08-20-2007, 10:47 AM
poor video of a V8 Kompressor vs M-car.

This is a better vid... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBBs_HGlGqE&mode=related&search=

EvilEmpirE
08-20-2007, 10:48 AM
Does anyone have any numbers to compare the E55/M5 times from 100 to 140 ish? We all realize that to 100 the E55 will take it, TORQUE...TORQUE TORQUE, but I doubt that an M5 will blow by at at 120. Then again, .02 seconfs when traveling at 120 is quite a bit of distance. Here, with rush hour, I really do not have to worry about someone running by me at 120 MPH on a daily basis. Now when I had my Jeep SRT, it would take both of them stop light to stop light. That was WET or DRY>


it won't "blow" away by any means.....think about it, both make similar HP. But up top, with the NA V-10, especially above around 110 mph.....a stock M5 will pull on an E55.....will prob pass it by about 120/125 or so is my best guess

PS. there is a bunch of videos from comparison runs that the Dallas guys made on M5board.....3 diff M5s vs the same E55 in the vid in this thread. They have a stock M5 vs stock E55, check those two clips out since I can't link.......

blackbenzz
08-20-2007, 11:15 AM
I'd like to see a few....:D
Modded CL600 vs. stock M6 (I was filming and the CL6 let the M6 go first, then jus blew him away!) http://youtube.com/watch?v=1KXdq6f1mUM (http://youtube.com/watch?v=1KXdq6f1mUM)

Modded CL600 vs. modded M5 (not really a "race") http://youtube.com/watch?v=z3wrk4x0i4Q (http://youtube.com/watch?v=z3wrk4x0i4Q)
I do not buy that the E55 is faster to 100 MPH. I think they are pretty even...driver's race.
I dont think anybody cares what you think. You're local, we can line em up. Oh wait, you dont even have a fast car, oops

ohnoes
08-20-2007, 11:20 AM
I dont think anybody cares what you think. You're local, we can line em up. Oh wait, you dont even have a fast car, oops

Ooohh... burn. :rolleyes

Maybe not fast by your standards, but it would take most cars on the road.

Get off your stupid high horse and go to a MB forum.

Fiorano599gtb
08-20-2007, 11:23 AM
poor video of a V8 Kompressor vs M-car.

This is a better vid... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBBs_HGlGqE&mode=related&search=




yea this one was better..

blackbenzz
08-20-2007, 11:35 AM
Ooohh... burn. :rolleyes

Maybe not fast by your standards, but it would take most cars on the road.

Get off your stupid high horse and go to a MB forum.
Face it, your car is slow. Its ok, I know my car is not the fastest either.

GMM
08-20-2007, 11:37 AM
Modded CL600 vs. stock M6 (I was filming and the CL6 let the M6 go first, then jus blew him away!) http://youtube.com/watch?v=1KXdq6f1mUM (http://youtube.com/watch?v=1KXdq6f1mUM)

Modded CL600 vs. modded M5 (not really a "race") http://youtube.com/watch?v=z3wrk4x0i4Q (http://youtube.com/watch?v=z3wrk4x0i4Q)

I dont think anybody cares what you think. You're local, we can line em up. Oh wait, you dont even have a fast car, oops


Well most would expect a modified 150k V12 to be a highway beast.

And I don't see a modded M5 in the second video at all.

blackbenzz
08-20-2007, 11:39 AM
Well most would expect a modified 150k V12 to be a highway beast.

And I don't see a modded M5 in the second video at all.
Yes, most smart people would. Even though the car doesnt cost anywhere near 150k now but nice try. Its cheaper than the M6

Oops I posted the wrong vid, here ya go http://youtube.com/watch?v=uuG948yy6s8 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=uuG948yy6s8)

GMM
08-20-2007, 11:40 AM
Yes, most smart people would.

Oops I posted the wrong vid, here ya go http://youtube.com/watch?v=uuG948yy6s8 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=uuG948yy6s8)

Mods on the CL600?

ohnoes
08-20-2007, 11:43 AM
Face it, your car is slow. Its ok, I know my car is not the fastest either.

Again - it's all in the eye of the beholder. Slow by whose standards? A freakin' 318 5 spd. is quick to people coming from 4-cylinder automatic Camry.

Anyway, what point are you trying to make, and why? Your car is not "the fastest?" That's putting it lightly.

ohnoes
08-20-2007, 11:59 AM
Just try and ignore him...He really lets his ignorance show. Esp when ever it is a BMW beating an AMG.

Yeah, no kidding. I guess he is a little butthurt, which is totally understandable, given that he is on a BMW FORUM. :lol

Anyway, I thought he was a cool guy before... and I've actually met him at a couple of meets. But I don't like his attitude here.

Montague
08-20-2007, 12:01 PM
Blackbenzz is not a bad guy. He just has a East Coast Euro mentality.

ohnoes
08-20-2007, 12:02 PM
Blackbenzz is not a bad guy. He just has a East Coast Euro mentality.

:lol

Yeah, what a successful site ECE was...till doug$ deleted it.

Nah, I really don't have any problem with Blackbenzz but I'm trying to figure out why he's so insistent on pointing out how slow and inferior BMWs are. :D

GTP540
08-20-2007, 01:32 PM
Modded CL600 vs. stock M6 (I was filming and the CL6 let the M6 go first, then jus blew him away!) http://youtube.com/watch?v=1KXdq6f1mUM (http://youtube.com/watch?v=1KXdq6f1mUM)

Modded CL600 vs. modded M5 (not really a "race") http://youtube.com/watch?v=z3wrk4x0i4Q (http://youtube.com/watch?v=z3wrk4x0i4Q)



Wow that first vid..uh...just..WOW... left the M6 under WOT like that....(thanks, great lunch break..:stickoutt)

VADER13
08-20-2007, 01:32 PM
:lol

Yeah, what a successful site ECE was...till DOUCHE$ deleted it.

Nah, I really don't have any problem with Blackbenzz but I'm trying to figure out why he's so insistent on pointing out how slow and inferior BMWs are. :D

FIXED

ohnoes
08-20-2007, 01:52 PM
FIXED

Well, to put a blunt--but so damn true--edge on it, yes. :stickoutt

Shodanusmc
08-20-2007, 03:21 PM
:rolleyes You can't even get your info right. Only the M3 does that. Your an idiot.

Go stand in the corner and learn to behave yourself. Kids like you need a good a$$ whipping.

blackbenzz
08-20-2007, 03:30 PM
FIXED
Werd

Ohnoes- I dont remember ever meeting you. I tell it like it is, sorry you dont like it. Its not a AMG vs. M thing. I like both cars, its just that certain people like to spread false info and THAT, I dont like.

eightyseven
08-21-2007, 02:52 PM
I personally have raced a E60 M5 from a dig and it was no contest, he was a good ways behind and stayed there.

I don't know if he was at optimal setup (P500, M6..yadda yadda) but the beautiful thing about my E55 AMG is that is always ready to romp.

I have caught many 996TT and C5 Z06 owners sleeping at the line, and wondering why they can't catch up to me by 100.

The E60 M5 is a BEAST on the fwy, I wouldn't try against one if I was in a stock E55.

GMM
08-21-2007, 03:06 PM
Go stand in the corner and learn to behave yourself. Kids like you need a good a$$ whipping.

Uh ok...Is there a reason why this was needed at all?

BingM3
08-21-2007, 03:47 PM
We see BMW modded kills over stock cars, here is a good example the other way...look how fast this thinng takes off in about two seconds:)

http://www.tremek.com/forum/porsche-videos/35276-protomotive-911-turbo-vs-bmw-m6-good-video.html

Shodanusmc
08-21-2007, 04:01 PM
Uh ok...Is there a reason why this was needed at all?

Yep! Thank God school starts soon. At least keeping you off the Internet for a few hours a day will help. Since you are what, 16, have you thought about your future?

Also please do not send me any more of your "special" PM's. I am not into little boys, Fluffer!

shirazi89
08-21-2007, 05:51 PM
+1
thye don't look like they are trying....well, a least the MB driver does not.:embarrasm

Shodanusmc
08-21-2007, 06:37 PM
Im a soph in college, have an Roth IRA, rest of my money in CDs, member/ founder of an investment club, own a business....Im doing pretty well, thanks for your concern.

But that still doesnt answer why you have to come in here and act like a little child. By starting drama in a perfectly fine thread. All you ever do is compare you "E55" to your brothers "M5" every chance you get.

Back on topic please.

Does Barber College really count? Ok, so your Daddy put $50 bucks into an IRA for you, you have a paper route, and you post crap all day long. Stock for Stock, there is no comparison between the E55 and M5. Learn how to spell torque. I know, the M5 is quicker for 120-141....ok, great for the real world. Have you considered menial labor? Again, stop PM'ing me. I am not into your kind of special fun!

VADER13
08-21-2007, 07:27 PM
they are both fast cars..for the money..ill take the older low miled Benz and throw a stage 2 in it..that will pretty much run ya under 60k and will rap3 a stock m5 blus it has more lux anyway..

LoveLEE143
08-21-2007, 07:32 PM
STFU all of you I will pwn you all with my 1983 240D

prash
08-21-2007, 09:24 PM
Luxury? I really dont care for my moms interior to much. Don't get me wrong it is a very nice interior. But I just love the M5's interior. And yes they both are very fast cars! But then again you cant really compare modded vs. stock.


The E60 interior looks like ass anyway you cut it. E60 owners won't even argue with you about that.

GMM
08-21-2007, 09:26 PM
The E60 interior looks like ass anyway you cut it. E60 owners won't even argue with you about that.


Speaking for all of them? I think its an awesome interior.

VADER13
08-21-2007, 09:36 PM
M5 interior, not so much.. the plush benz AMG seats are awesome, put 600hp (CHIP UDPK) under that and lookout..oh and not to mention thre airmatic suspension.
Benz has always pwned BMW in the Lux dept, imo BMW is more sporty and with that you lose comphy cush.
So, in regards to my opionons on sports cars..
The BMW M 3 series is it..why do you need a sporty boat?
The M5 better beat the E55 that has been out since 03..
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedan/112_0305_2003_mercedes_benz_amg_e55

NobleForums
08-21-2007, 09:38 PM
This thread is comedy gold! A+++++, exactly as promised, will read again soon.

ohnoes
08-21-2007, 10:02 PM
This thread is comedy gold! A+++++, exactly as promised, will read again soon.

Agreed. :rofl: :rofl :rofl:

NOCTURNAL
08-22-2007, 05:10 PM
This thread is comedy gold! A+++++, exactly as promised, will read again soon.

yup. I spent about ten minutes reading everything.

alanhenson
08-22-2007, 06:00 PM
That could have been an E500 with an AMG body kit.

Aerosoul
08-22-2007, 07:46 PM
The E60 interior looks like ass anyway you cut it. E60 owners won't even argue with you about that.
I will.

Ingenere
08-23-2007, 09:11 PM
I have driven both cars, there is no way its like that no way..the M5 seems to have a bit more of a pull when in the 3rd gear and up but it'snot even close to being like that, when the E55 gets going, it takes the F-Off..
The M5 feels a bit more crisp though the gears and the E55 feels a bit sluggish..it's a pretty even race.
Stock to stock..
Remember the E55 is S/C and with just a little ol chip it puts out close to 600hp..

When we tune the 55 cars, a straight ECU tune will yield betwwen 45-55hp, and adding the pulley we get 80+. they are great cars to tune.

blackbenzz
08-24-2007, 01:34 PM
When we tune the 55 cars, a straight ECU tune will yield betwwen 45-55hp, and adding the pulley we get 80+. they are great cars to tune.
Where are you located? Wanna do a custom tune on a Kleemann CLK55? :D

psk145
08-24-2007, 02:19 PM
When we tune the 55 cars, a straight ECU tune will yield betwwen 45-55hp, and adding the pulley we get 80+. they are great cars to tune.

I didnt see that much gain from the renntech software, but then again, my software is still a little messed up and needs tweaking

jrhaile
08-24-2007, 05:11 PM
Sick ass videos, but I'd take a slower M car over any Benz any day (SLR excluded). I'd like to actually be able to take my car around a corner if needed. I don't think anyone here can honestly say that a Benz handles as well as a M6 or M5. Simply put, BMWs are more drivers car and Benz's are more pimpin' balla-ass-shit with ridicalous power.

ImtheDriver
08-24-2007, 05:20 PM
Nice win!

blackbenzz
08-25-2007, 02:11 AM
Sick ass videos, but I'd take a slower M car over any Benz any day (SLR excluded). I'd like to actually be able to take my car around a corner if needed. I don't think anyone here can honestly say that a Benz handles as well as a M6 or M5. Simply put, BMWs are more drivers car and Benz's are more pimpin' balla-ass-shit with ridicalous power.
I would say my modified CLK55 handles as well as a M5/6 :stickoutt

VADER13
08-25-2007, 04:12 AM
I didnt see that much gain from the renntech software, but then again, my software is still a little messed up and needs tweaking

Your shits always got probs kid...lol
Hey, I will be back in OC next week, time for a Ortega run.

Tank0001
08-25-2007, 04:20 AM
Here is another from the same user http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTu4AnUsjYA&mode=user&search=


damn that pulled hard

psk145
08-25-2007, 02:35 PM
Your shits always got probs kid...lol
Hey, I will be back in OC next week, time for a Ortega run.

Im headed to vegas next week, but I'll be back for the weekend. My car will be in the shop for its third renntech pulley while Im gone.

let me know when you get back.

blackbenzz
08-25-2007, 04:14 PM
[quote=psk145;10452002My car will be in the shop for its third renntech pulley while Im gone.[/quote]
WHAT?!?!?!?! :eek:

psk145
08-25-2007, 06:48 PM
WHAT?!?!?!?! :eek:

long story. Look for posts on mbworld from jangy regarding renntech and creative autoworks

blackbenzz
08-25-2007, 08:56 PM
long story. Look for posts on mbworld from jangy regarding renntech and creative autoworks
Sorry to hear bro.