In general, is their line of products good and worth the money? or would you prefer another brand?

thnx for the help

I was always happy with their professional (mirror glaze) line. Their stuff is more affordable and works great.

I bought some of the expensive pinnacle stuff and a few other "exclusive" products... Have a nice orbital and used pastes etc.

I even did the side my side on the black car.

Meguires is absolutely good stuff... lasts as long (not that any carnuba has great life) easy on and off.


I'm sure there are folks that will say "you need to xyz special application blah blah blah, but I started working in body shops 25 years ago and have a good idea how to play...

You get very good bang for the buck and no way you get 2-3-4 times the shine etc with the super high dollar stuff.



IMO that's for folks that just feel better when they spend more money.

ight thanks the ur opinions... im goin out soon to get some stuff

thanks again!

I bought some of the expensive pinnacle stuff and a few other "exclusive" products... Have a nice orbital and used pastes etc.

I even did the side my side on the black car.

Meguires is absolutely good stuff... lasts as long (not that any carnuba has great life) easy on and off.


I'm sure there are folks that will say "you need to xyz special application blah blah blah, but I started working in body shops 25 years ago and have a good idea how to play...

You get very good bang for the buck and no way you get 2-3-4 times the shine etc with the super high dollar stuff.



IMO that's for folks that just feel better when they spend more money.
VERY well said.

There is no 'best' product out there, and having a higher priced product doesn't mean it will perform better. When it all comes down to it, it is just about which product you enjoy using the most; oh and prep work is KING!

+1 ^^^

Prep is the ground work for a great finish.

I used their stuff last month on my black '95 530i. I was amazed at how well it turned out.

I tried the old routine:
#83 Dual Action Cleaner/polish
#80 Speed Glaze
# 7 Show car glaze
#26 Hi Tech Yellow Wax

The #83 and #80 (applied via the Dual Action Polisher (Porter Cable)) took out light swirls and greatly improved the appearance of a few small 'problem spots' (Bird crap or who knows what messed up the surface). I'm not sure I really needed the #7 but was given an old bottle so what the heck.

For all I know one brand of product is just as good as the other, but their stuff worked out real good for me.

I use meg's on all three cars.

I used their stuff last month on my black '95 530i. I was amazed at how well it turned out.

I tried the old routine:
#83 Dual Action Cleaner/polish
#80 Speed Glaze
# 7 Show car glaze
#26 Hi Tech Yellow Wax

The #83 and #80 (applied via the Dual Action Polisher (Porter Cable)) took out light swirls and greatly improved the appearance of a few small 'problem spots' (Bird crap or who knows what messed up the surface). I'm not sure I really needed the #7 but was given an old bottle so what the heck.

For all I know one brand of product is just as good as the other, but their stuff worked out real good for me.

what pads did you use?

what pads did you use?
W-8006 yellow for the #83
W-9006 tan for the #80
For the #7 & #26 applied by hand and removed via W-7006 burgundy fitted with a microfiber bonnet over it

you are looking for opinions so i'll give mine. I like the Pinnacle products better than Megs. There I said it. Reasoning: Easier on/off AND deeper/ slicker results. But that is just me.

I'm guessing this also depends on the products.
I've just been using the following
85, 83, 2, 9 with my rotary
7 glaze by hand

I did the 85, 83 with a 3M waffle foam cutting pad
and the 83, 2 and 9 with a 3M waffle foam polishing pad

I found the "2" and "9" to be a bit too runny for the rotary (although it worked - it went on very wet and still dried too fast)

The 85 and 83 were a good consistency to work with.

I think I will switch to a Machine Glaze (80) rather than 7.

And I will also likely try the 82 polish rather than the 2 next time to see if it works better with the rotary.

This was the first polish and I spent a significant amount of time on the hood
though I am still seeing "spider webs" on the hood at 1 foot under strong sunlight. At 5 feet the polish is perfect.

I'm not sure whether I will try for better this year. In general the paint was not done very well and I don't have a meter to test the clear thickness.

Next time I will make sure I use a painter who can provide me less mistakes and with enough clear that I know I will be able to wet sand and polish to a higher quality finish.

I'm not sure how good the wax/wax substitutes are.

So is megs good. I think it is more a question of matching the product, the tool and what you are trying to do. I think the answer I have is 85 & 83 are excellent with a rotary and a cutting pad. 83 is pretty good as a first step with the rotary with the polishing pad.

Next time:
I'm going to drop 2 and try 82 then 9.
I'm going to swap out 7 and use a finishing pad with 80

W-8006 yellow for the #83
W-9006 tan for the #80
For the #7 & #26 applied by hand and removed via W-7006 burgundy fitted with a microfiber bonnet over it

I wonder if this is comparable to LC CCS orange and white. Reason I ask is I have been researching about getting the UDM and wanted to know what pads to get. I am coming to the conclusion though that a rotary might be better for speed and correction ability. I am just worried about edges, hence settling on the UDM. Having said that if the UDM can not correct what I need to I will get the $40 HF rotary and using that. I have already settled on #83 and #80 as what people recommend.

Meguires stuff is good stuff. It will get the job done with great results. As stated b4, the prep work and the process will determine the quality of the shine. There are alot of products out there that may be as good or better, but it is up to you to determine what your needs are, and how much work you plan on putting into the job.

As far as OTC stuff, I think Meg has a great line up, so you cannot go wrong with it.

I really like meguir's also. I use their clay bar product and have used the cleaner wax numerous times. The Meguir's Colorex (blk bottle w/rainbow colors on front) is simply put..awesome on my black paint. i use it as a finisher or just to touch up the deep shine from time to time. No real need to re-wax.

I am not a super detailer type, but I do like my cars to look nice and understand the importance of protecting the paint. I used different waxes and cleaners in the past along with my orbital buffer. It was always a 1/2 day affair twice a year or so. For the past two years I have been using Mequires NXT wax. This stuff is too easy to use. I think the results are good. In fact Saturday I hit my 99 with the clay and came back with the NXT and it looks great. Later that day, we did another black vehicle, one with a few faded panels, and the NXT brought it back to uniform coloring. So, I know this stuff is not the super deep lustre product etc., but it is sure good at what it does do. I have done six vehicles and still have 1/2 of the bottle left, so it is cheap to use also.

all i use is meguiars and im happy with it

I have been using the Meguiar's line for years. The products are a great value, in terms of price/quality.

I just tried the NXT 2.0 for the first time and really like the results.

Does anyone know if it's OK to apply multiple coats?

Or, would you just want to follow-up with the NXT liquid spray???

I have been using the Meguiar's line for years. The products are a great value, in terms of price/quality.

I just tried the NXT 2.0 for the first time and really like the results.

Does anyone know if it's OK to apply multiple coats?

Or, would you just want to follow-up with the NXT liquid spray???

Forget NXT spray wax and just move onto Ultimate Quick Detailer! I am telling you, this stuff compliments NXT 2.0 flawlessly. If you do want a boost in shine though, NXT spray will be a bit more effective, but for maintenance, keeping up that crazy beading/sheeting, light dusting/smudges, and protecting, UQD is the way to go. Much easier/quicker to use too.

haha i think since aug ive got the answer... ive moved onto things better than meg's :P

Sounds good. I have been using the UQD for quite a while. It is the shiznit. I'll finish polishing and waxing tomorrow and give it a try.
Forget NXT spray wax and just move onto Ultimate Quick Detailer! I am telling you, this stuff compliments NXT 2.0 flawlessly. If you do want a boost in shine though, NXT spray will be a bit more effective, but for maintenance, keeping up that crazy beading/sheeting, light dusting/smudges, and protecting, UQD is the way to go. Much easier/quicker to use too.

Forget NXT spray wax and just move onto Ultimate Quick Detailer! I am telling you, this stuff compliments NXT 2.0 flawlessly. If you do want a boost in shine though, NXT spray will be a bit more effective, but for maintenance, keeping up that crazy beading/sheeting, light dusting/smudges, and protecting, UQD is the way to go. Much easier/quicker to use too.
Ive heard good things from a number of people about NXT 2.0 and admit that Ive always been hesitant to try it (having an over stock of waxes). I do LOVE the NXT glass cleaner, though.

What kind of durability do you see with the NXT 2.0?

Ive heard good things from a number of people about NXT 2.0 and admit that Ive always been hesitant to try it (having an over stock of waxes). I do LOVE the NXT glass cleaner, though.

What kind of durability do you see with the NXT 2.0?

Well the product itself has only been out for what, 3 months? On top of that, I never let my paint run dry without protection; I wax about every month or two and use UQD every other day or so, so for me, durability is not an issue. Meguiar's claims it has twice the durability of the old stuff, so whatever durability you got with the old NXT, just double that. The general concenses is that the old stuff lasted 2-4 months, so with 2.0, I assume 4-8. I think that puts it up there as one of the more durable forms of protection, and tied with UQD, I see no reason why you can't meet or exceed that.

Just a quick story for everyone on UQD to show you the power of this combination. My friend has a black 528i and it was pretty dirty sitting in Socal sun on a bright and sunny day. Just about 1 minute before he was about to wash it, I quickly did half the trunk with UQD. Now his car desperately needed a wax job as water pooled on the car, but when the hose came to the UQD side of the trunk, it beaded up like no tomorrow! He finished washing the car in direct sunlight, on black paint with Gold Class and then when he went to rinse off the car, it beaded up just as strongly! Well I go back over there a week later to help him wax his car, and before we do, he washes it again in direct sunlight. Just as before, it beaded up very strongly on the UQD side even after the second wash. I don't know about you guys, but this proves not just the durability and protection
of UQD, but also will show just how well it will work together with NXT 2.0.

Oh yes, and when I did apply UQD, it didn't mar the paint at all, even with the dirty surface, and wiped off streak free on black paint that was too hot to touch.