Who would win this race? (both drivers have similar skills)

0-60-
0-120-
1/4 mile-
Nurburgring-

Great pic. :buttrock

I would have to go with the M in every catagory you listed.

The M Coupe would win 0-120 1/4 mile and around Nurburgring but not 0-60

You'll get spanked. Bad. I assume that's an Exige S?

You may have a shot at 0-120. You'll probably have a legitimate shot at the Ring due to HP. And if the driver's fat you may have a shot in that he can't even get in and fit in the car. Otherwise...Bend over.

You guys should do it the old LeMans style start. It takes a freakin' contortionist to get in the Lotus. You'll probably win that way.

You'll get spanked. Bad. I assume that's an Exige S?


I'll have to revert to your info, I don't know anything other than this is a Lotus. Btw, is the "S" for sport model or what? I haven't heard of them having a letter designation.

M coupe will win in both 0-120 and 1/4 mile. For Nurburgring, I think it will be close.

That is an Exige S with a very capable driver. On this particular day it had just a few hundred miles on the odometer so there wasn't much high revving action.

0-60: I say exige-s
0-120: m coupe :buttrock
1/4 mile :help not sure...I think the Exige-s due to weight...hmmm maybe not
Ring: I think M coupe


Does any one have the times on the ring for these cars. I am sure they are out there some where.

The M Coupe would win 0-120 1/4 mile and around Nurburgring but not 0-60

+1:lol

+1:lol
Its the truth!

The M Coupe would win 0-120 1/4 mile and around Nurburgring but not 0-60

+3.
I wonder how much of a difference it is to 60.

o.5 sec?

The Lotus would absolutely spank the BMW. Besides, Dan is a horrible driver! =D

The Lotus (assuming an Exige S) would take the 0-60 with a 4.1 0-60, but tracked an 8:32 at the 'ring... slower than the M coupe (8:15-ish iirc?). 1/4 mile will be approx the same since both cars have shown an array of high 12 / low 13 times.

Just so everyone knows...Mick Opalak is the owner of the Exige S! He joined the board just to defend his car and rag on me!!!
:lol

I think the Exige would pull the M Coupe to 60 but I suspect the M would reel it in above 80 or so. Since the Exige is carrying about 1200 lbs less (2000 vs 3200) it also has the advantage in braking and cornering. I'm running RA-1's so my grip is a little better than the Yokahama A048's but not by much. Either way they are pretty close in figures for such different cars. Oh, Micks car has a LSD so the inside tire spin isn't an issue in the corners. Advantage - Exige S

I think, given the same time spent in the car, that the Lotus driver will go deaf faster.

You'll get spanked. Bad. I assume that's an Exige S?

You may have a shot at 0-120. You'll probably have a legitimate shot at the Ring due to HP. And if the driver's fat you may have a shot in that he can't even get in and fit in the car. Otherwise...Bend over.

You guys should do it the old LeMans style start. It takes a freakin' contortionist to get in the Lotus. You'll probably win that way.


Not even the ring, same driving skills...

The couple of long finishing straights on the back side aren't that long time and % of course wise.


LMAO at the running start!

Some people are so funny:

0-60: Lotus
0-120: M COUPE
1/4 Mile: M COUPE
Nurburgring: M COUPE

Now these all have been proven times but once again it takes a good driver

The Lotus (assuming an Exige S) would take the 0-60 with a 4.1 0-60, but tracked an 8:32 at the 'ring... slower than the M coupe (8:15-ish iirc?). 1/4 mile will be approx the same since both cars have shown an array of high 12 / low 13 times.

0-60 the Exige S wins hands down. 4.1s vs. 4.8. Here lightweight and gearing plays a big part.

0-120...I'm not so sure. Haven't seen any conclusive numbers to prove one way or another.

Quarter mile is close enough to call based on drag racing skill. The few drag slips I dug up of both cars seems to indicate high 12s, a quick recall on my brain has C&D getting a 12.7 for the Exige S and 12.8 for the MZ4 Coupe.

'Ring is no contest, there are too many sections where HP and top speed rule, and the MZ4 Coupe has both. If I'm not mistake, the Exige S takes the Ring at 8:3X and the MZ4 Coupe is in the very low 8:1X range.

Now that my Exige has twin black racing stripes it will definitely win any race. (2 stripes @ 30 hp/stripe = 60 extra horsies! Woot!)

I hear people are getting the Exige S from 220hp to 265 pretty easily (pulley, ecu flash, larger fuel injectors) so for a little $$$ the car can be made into a total beast. Thanks everyone for the feedback.

That C&D comparo article at VIR had the Exige S up there with the GT3, 997 Turbo, Corvette times. An entirely different level than the M Coupe.

http://www.caranddriver.com/assets/download/lightninglap_results.pdf

That C&D comparo article at VIR had the Exige S up there with the GT3, 997 Turbo, Corvette times. An entirely different level than the M Coupe.

http://www.caranddriver.com/assets/download/lightninglap_results.pdf

Car and driver sucks... Of course they make the 335 look better than the ZM because there are 4000x more of them... compare all the cars tested and the lotus and m coupe times make no sense!

:lol:lol:lol:lol:lolLMAO,

Yeah,

there's way more unbiased opinion about the Z versus another car here in the Z section of a forum rather than some stupid, long standing, widely popular Magazine!!!

(now here's the part where we try and say we're above the level of people who read it...:rolleyes Though should it have said the Z is a beast and the times were better, we'd all be singing about it.)

Though should it have said the Z is a beast and the times were better, we'd all be singing about it.)

Of course we would, because its the truth :D

I just posted it, because it is supposed to be a comparison between vehicles on the same track. Which is related to what this thread is about. If you want to argue that C&D fudges about everything they write, then fine, but at least it's a "comparison" of sorts.

I just posted it, because it is supposed to be a comparison between vehicles on the same track. Which is related to what this thread is about. If you want to argue that C&D fudges about everything they write, then fine, but at least it's a "comparison" of sorts.


You brought up a great point...

That doesn't mean ego's in hear will allow it won't want to blow hot air at it...