what's ibtl? lol


and how does one get into autox?

by driving a BMW instead of a POS Pontiac.

There is a subforum devoted to autocrossing and tracking. It is full of helpful information.

Sign up with BMWCCA and start :pimpflash.

But what do I know... :rofl

Sign up with BMWCCA and start :pimpflash.

But what do I know... :rofl

I was about to say... WTF are you doing giving autoxing advice. :rofl

Basically, you find out who puts on events, sign up for one, then show up and do what the people in charge tell you to do.

There is a subforum devoted to autocrossing and tracking. It is full of helpful information.

where?

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=128

what's ibtl? lol

ibtl = in before the lock

where?

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=&f=128

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=&f=128
I beat you ;)

But yeah. Register for one of the BMWCCA ones, even though you don't have a BMW. You have to make sure you register pretty much right when registration opens (there's a notice the day before, or check the calendar at www.peachtreebmwcca.org) and pay $10 more if you're not a BMWCCA member (which you also don't have to have a BMW to do), and then come out to one of ours.

I just started doing AX over the last two, and they've been a blast.

ibtl

I beat you ;)

But yeah. Register for one of the BMWCCA ones, even though you don't have a BMW. You have to make sure you register pretty much right when registration opens (there's a notice the day before, or check the calendar at www.peachtreebmwcca.org) and pay $10 more if you're not a BMWCCA member (which you also don't have to have a BMW to do), and then come out to one of ours.

I just started doing AX over the last two, and they've been a blast.

Yeah, this kid beat my time with a bone stock boat ;)

ibtl.

I beat you ;)

:rofl

Yeah, this kid beat my time with a bone stock boat ;)

ibtl.
Didn't you run in the rain though :confused

And only I get to call her a boat. She's sensitive about her weight and I'm the only person who's allowed to use that to manipulate her. :nono

Basically, you find out who puts on events, sign up for one, then show up and do what the people in charge tell you to do.

I truly LIKE your answer!

by driving a BMW instead of a POS Pontiac.

Ignore this crap. Any car is welcome. If you have any questions feel free to PM me.

I truly LIKE your answer!

Thanks! I tried to keep it generic. :D

I truly LIKE your answer!

+1

www.myautoevents.com is a great place to find them. that will (should) include BMW CCA, NASA and SCCA events. In addition, you'll find track events, road rallys, off-road rallys and other sorts of car events. www.motorsportreg.com is another good one BMW CCA uses to register (and pay) for events.

sweet thanks guys- i appreciate all the help. oh yea m3bill- would george's 318is be good for autocross? i'm wondering if i could use that to join?

sweet thanks guys- i appreciate all the help. oh yea m3bill- would george's 318is be good for autocross? i'm wondering if i could use that to join?

It would be a far better track car than autocross car, but why not use it for both?

:wave

It would be a far better track car than autocross car, but why not use it for both?

:wave

Yes, Bill. Why not use ANY e30 for both? :shifty

Oh yeah, you keep going to the track when you should be going to autocrosses. :shifty :shifty

Yes, Bill. Why not use ANY e30 for both? :shifty

Oh yeah, you keep going to the track when you should be going to autocrosses. :shifty :shifty

I will autocross it in September, most likely. We will just be getting back from Germany, so I won't have time to prep for Roebling, so I think I'll autocross it instead.

:wave

Good to hear. :buttrock

what's the diff between track and autocross?

what's the diff between track and autocross?

Autocrossing takes place in parking lots (like Turner Field) and airfields. Track driving takes place on a purpose built track (like Road Atlanta). Autocrossing speeds barely get above 50-60MPH unless you have some serious hardware on an open course. Track driving gets you as fast as your car (and talent) can take you. Autocrossing costs between $20-$40 to compete where as HPDE, drivers schools and lapping days cost between $200-$500, assuming you use your own car. More if the school provides the car (like BMW or Panoz Driving Schools).

If you have never done any of the above, start autocrossing. This will help you develop the basic skills necessary that will be useful when you do get to track driving. You've got to learn to walk before you run, after all.

You should plan on coming to the next BMW or SCCA autocross. It's best to just jump in with both feet, though some prefer to watch their first event. Even if you don't want to drive the first time, you can ride along with some of the people here and get a feel for what they are all about and get some very helpful hints and tips from people who have been doing this a VERY long time.

Autocrossing takes place in parking lots (like Turner Field) and airfields. Track driving takes place on a purpose built track (like Road Atlanta). Autocrossing speeds barely get above 50-60MPH unless you have some serious hardware on an open course. Track driving gets you as fast as your car (and talent) can take you. Autocrossing costs between $20-$40 to compete where as HPDE, drivers schools and lapping days cost between $200-$500, assuming you use your own car. More if the school provides the car (like BMW or Panoz Driving Schools).

If you have never done any of the above, start autocrossing. This will help you develop the basic skills necessary that will be useful when you do get to track driving. You've got to learn to walk before you run, after all.

You should plan on coming to the next BMW or SCCA autocross. It's best to just jump in with both feet, though some prefer to watch their first event. Even if you don't want to drive the first time, you can ride along with some of the people here and get a feel for what they are all about and get some very helpful hints and tips from people who have been doing this a VERY long time.

Well said. Minor point to be aware of; non-bmw cca members are no longer allowed to visit the AX events. This is an insurance issue and can be circumvented by being a guest of an event participant. Visitors are still welcome at DE events.

PM me with your direct contact info and I will arrange for you to visit us at the 8/11 AX. I, an others, will also take you on some runs.

One thing to add to the above. AutoXing will vastly improve your overall skills, along with learning what the limits of you and your vehicle are. (Yes, even in a parking lot). The worst thing you can do is tag an orange cone that lays-out-the course. (But while the speeds mentioned seem "seem"
low, it will be extremely fast while you are negotiating the course itself).

One drive-along will get you hooked..............come out as Bruce offered.

Well said. Minor point to be aware of; non-bmw cca members are no longer allowed to visit the AX events. This is an insurance issue and can be circumvented by being a guest of an event participant. Visitors are still welcome at DE events.

PM me with your direct contact info and I will arrange for you to visit us at the 8/11 AX. I, an others, will also take you on some runs.
so where is the next AX event? If I join BMWCCA before then, can I just go and watch?

so where is the next AX event? If I join BMWCCA before then, can I just go and watch?

I believe they are held at the Gwinnett County Fairgrounds. You can reread posts 10 & 19 for links to find out more info though. ;)

Doing your own homework FTMFW!!! :D

Ignore this crap. Any car is welcome. If you have any questions feel free to PM me.

You might have a Mercury Marquis, a Ford Focus and a Ferrari in your run group. The dude in the Marquis will have the best time.

Autocrossing is for people who are too skeered to drive really fast...


:paranoid:


Just kidding.

I actually started tracking first and then did a couple of autocrosses. I intend to do a lot more autocrosses in the future. They are both a blast and, in my humble opinion, the skill set you develop in each "sport" transfers over to the other "sport" fairly well.

Autocrossing is for people who are too skeered to drive really fast...


:paranoid:


Just kidding.

I actually started tracking first and then did a couple of autocrosses. I intend to do a lot more autocrosses in the future. They are both a blast and, in my humble opinion, the skill set you develop in each "sport" transfers over to the other "sport" fairly well.

Agree'd. Autox definitely helped me go alot faster at Road A this time around. And I'm sure skills that I can't pick out have helped me in autox as well.

so where is the next AX event? If I join BMWCCA before then, can I just go and watch?

August 11. Always at Gwinnett County Fairgrounds. PM me for help in joining. If you are a member you are welcome to attend.

Autocrossing is for people who are too skeered to drive really fast...


That is going to win you a lot of friends. When is the next AX you are attending? I am sure that your runs are going to get a lot of attention from the announcer over the PA system.

That is going to win you a lot of friends. When is the next AX you are attending? I am sure that your runs are going to get a lot of attention from the announcer over the PA system.

Those with a sense of humor will laugh...

;)

I'll be attending in September. :wave

Those with a sense of humor will get TO'd...

:shifty

:paranoid:

:paranoid:

:confused

:wave

:paranoid:

:rofl:

+1

:devillook

:confused

:paranoid:

:wave

:wave

Okay, okay, back on topic...


Bruce, what's the latest on the "insurance question," for those leery about using daily drivers as "happy fun time" vehicles at AXs & DEs? Does the club have alternatives for coverage it recommends or endorses? :ponder


:cool

wow sweet, i'd love to come ride with somebody! only thing is...is there a diff time other than 8/11? i'm out of town then...thanks for the input guys

Actually the AutoX will be on Sunday (8/12)............... Saturday (8/11) is the TeenStreetSurvival school. Next one after that is Sept29th (Saturday).

what's the diff between track and autocross?
Track is a road course (i.e. Road Atlanta) Basically higher speeds, longer turns, longer straights. Autox is short track, tight turns, slower speeds, etc...
Max

Okay, okay, back on topic...
Bruce, what's the latest on the "insurance question," for those leery about using daily drivers as "happy fun time" vehicles at AXs & DEs? Does the club have alternatives for coverage it recommends or endorses? :ponder
:cool

You won't get any endorsement from a BMW CCA Officer for AX or track insurance. Most insurance policies do not cover any timed event. DEs are NEVER timed but the insurance companies have tightened up on track events.

Read your policy carefully, talk to your agent. Recently a local insurance rep was at a Peachtree DE talking about track insurance. The Chapter has no position on his offerings. I am sure that some of the track junkies, who are not Officers, can jump in with their knowledge.

Was that evasive enough for a public forum?

wow sweet, i'd love to come ride with somebody! only thing is...is there a diff time other than 8/11? i'm out of town then...thanks for the input guys

Keep checking the MSR link.
http://www.peachtreebmwcca.motorsportreg.com/

September 29 is AX#6.

You won't get any endorsement from a BMW CCA Officer for AX or track insurance. Most insurance policies do not cover any timed event. DEs are NEVER timed but the insurance companies have tightened up on track events.

Read your policy carefully, talk to your agent. Recently a local insurance rep was at a Peachtree DE talking about track insurance. The Chapter has no position on his offerings. I am sure that some of the track junkies, who are not Officers, can jump in with their knowledge.

Was that evasive enough for a public forum?
:rofl

Yes, I think it was, thanks! :D

Regarding track insurance -

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=724236