View Full Version : feeler: Miller MAF group buy


Brody
07-17-2007, 07:04 PM
Hey guys, just curious if there are at least 10 people that would purchase in the group buy if one were to be held.

Non M car MAF @: 440.00 (Regular 520.00)

MCar MAF @: 489.99 (Regular 569.99)

At least ten people needed to initiate the GB.

All our MAF Conversions are in stock and ready to go.

Alpine535i
07-17-2007, 07:56 PM
Can you post a link to a dyno graph, what is the power/torque increase again? Is this the new one that only needs to splice one wire? Thanks.

detroit635csi
07-17-2007, 07:59 PM
son of a...

grr i just bought a new chip for my car...this comes about a month too late...but i think next summer im going with the maf upgrade...thanks for the offer

atl530i
07-17-2007, 07:59 PM
I would be in if they came out with a conversion for the M30B28. It would be nice for the whistle sound to go away, lol.

GWL
07-17-2007, 09:12 PM
I would be interested for an 87 M6. I missed the last group buy at Big Coupe

5271990
07-17-2007, 09:24 PM
I''m in for an M30 maf (and possibly an M20 aswell :shifty)

Dr. Bimmer
07-18-2007, 02:07 AM
I would be interested in one for a M30B35

Brody
07-18-2007, 12:31 PM
Alright then guys, get the word out there more so we can get enough people.

also, which dyno's did you want to see. Some of the engines are still waiting independent testing, but we have them for the M30 from the e28 and e34, the M20. We have some AFTER results for the M3 as well.

DonFather
07-18-2007, 12:32 PM
Can you post some charts for the M30?

E34N
07-18-2007, 01:03 PM
I bought a MAF from Brody during the last group buy. One of my best purchases of the year. couldn't be happier, and these guys have great customer service. Brody is a stand up guy.

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u120/e34ntoys/DSC05245.jpg
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u120/e34ntoys/DSC05244.jpg

Russianblue
07-18-2007, 01:37 PM
Brody, do you work for Miller? I have one of the first M20 kits on my car. I'd love to see the M20 Dyno Graphs. Either way, I wholeheartedly endorse the product.

A few pics here (http://picasaweb.google.com/tigrfan/2006_1130_BMW_Engine_Compart?authkey=mh-oAtOstnk) on my 528e2i along with the SMT6 and Mallory ignition controller.

LuvMy328is
07-18-2007, 02:07 PM
So since I don't see it on the website, there is no E36 option?
~Phil

jays323i
07-18-2007, 02:40 PM
I'm interested for my 87 535is. I will be turboing within the year, will I have to get it re-chipped? Oh and is this totally plug & play (ie) no splicing?

Brody
07-18-2007, 05:46 PM
Can you post some charts for the M30?I will have some up in the morning

Brody, do you work for Miller?Yes, I do. Glad to see your MAF is still pleasing you.

So since I don't see it on the website, there is no E36 optionYou already have a MAF unless you have the M42 engine.

I'm interested for my 87 535is. I will be turboing within the year, will I have to get it re-chipped? Oh and is this totally plug & play (ie) no splicing?It's impossible to get away from splicing completely, however, we have gotten it down to one wire on the ECU end of things, and the temperature sensor out in the engine bay. Its not to technical and anyone should be able to do it. And as for you chip, yes, you would need a re-tune. We have a service that you can get so that we can long distance tune for you.

jrkoupe
07-18-2007, 08:44 PM
I missed the last one.......



Id like to see graph for m20. Do you retune any chip...or?. I run a Mark D chip...which I love. What is cost of a re tune?......thank you.

LuvMy328is
07-19-2007, 02:42 AM
You already have a MAF unless you have the M42 engine.

Wow, I'm dense. I thought this was an upgraded meter :stickoutt

~Phil

BMWMPow3r
07-19-2007, 05:01 PM
interested in some dyno numbers. 21 h.p. for the $250 D'silva chip is hard to beat. I'de still like to buy one, but its out of my range right now.

herragge
07-19-2007, 05:24 PM
Although power numbers are very important, the most HP numbers will not reflect how a conversion to MAF from AFM will feel. The car will respond differently; for the better! Throttle response will be greatly increased, better idle...all troubles that having an AFM will give you.

I would definitely be interested in the M20 MAF.

E34N
07-19-2007, 06:23 PM
Although power numbers are very important, the most HP numbers will not reflect how a conversion to MAF from AFM will feel. The car will respond differently; for the better! Throttle response will be greatly increased, better idle...all troubles that having an AFM will give you.


+1

I actually had an EAT chip. I loved it. but the MAF definitely helped with the overal driveability.

kxmills
07-19-2007, 07:46 PM
Add my name to the list.

BMWMPow3r
07-20-2007, 09:01 AM
so the $440 for a non-m car includes all hardware and software needed to upgrade including shipping? How much splicing is needed? Do you have an online writup on the procedure?

GADINA
07-21-2007, 05:12 AM
I'm in for one for M30 too, but I would like to see answers on the previous post :)

felip
07-21-2007, 05:42 PM
Anyone that want to get one should, should get one i got one on my 1990 325is, and i love it!

NHbmw325I
07-21-2007, 07:51 PM
For non-m cars is it changed to a 3.5" size or something?

Brody
07-21-2007, 08:23 PM
Hi guys,

Sorry, I have been working on our new website so i have been busy there. Yes, for Non M car MAF systems, the price is 440 plus 25 dollars for shipping. Everything is included that you would need for installing.

There is two spots for splicing. Very minimal, but you can't avoid it. You need your own tools etc. but all the hardware to make install go smoothly is included.

We have a manual you can review, but due to our website being down right now you can't access it. Once the site is back up and running I will let everyone know. Its going to be very different from what you guys are used to. And its for the better!

GWL
07-21-2007, 09:15 PM
Hi guys,

Sorry, I have been working on our new website so i have been busy there. Yes, for Non M car MAF systems, the price is 440 plus 25 dollars for shipping. Everything is included that you would need for installing.

There is two spots for splicing. Very minimal, but you can't avoid it. You need your own tools etc. but all the hardware to make install go smoothly is included.

We have a manual you can review, but due to our website being down right now you can't access it. Once the site is back up and running I will let everyone know. Its going to be very different from what you guys are used to. And its for the better!
Ok I will be watching as I do want one for my 87 M6 S38 engine.

ajw45
07-22-2007, 01:37 AM
I'm in for an s38 kit....

M6ermike
07-24-2007, 08:41 PM
Gotta have one -- count me in for an '88 M6.

dan735il
07-25-2007, 12:15 AM
I'm definitely in!

m5roller
07-26-2007, 11:01 PM
M20 dynos please.

bmw2nur
07-29-2007, 08:28 PM
Im in for a M20 kit, but I have a question...
will it work with a 524 ecu? and whats the rev limit at?
thanks

mdok
08-01-2007, 05:59 AM
I sent Brody PM

Think a MAF sounds yummy for my M20

pbclax423
08-01-2007, 01:31 PM
I will have some up in the morning

Yes, I do. Glad to see your MAF is still pleasing you.

You already have a MAF unless you have the M42 engine.

It's impossible to get away from splicing completely, however, we have gotten it down to one wire on the ECU end of things, and the temperature sensor out in the engine bay. Its not to technical and anyone should be able to do it. And as for you chip, yes, you would need a re-tune. We have a service that you can get so that we can long distance tune for you.

i have an m42 motor.. do you have maf for that one?..

GADINA
08-03-2007, 12:37 PM
What happend with this one?Do we need more people or we're enough?

ajw45
08-04-2007, 10:43 PM
Yeah, what's going on with the GB? I'm ready to buy and get this thing in along with my cams.....

JeffOlson
08-18-2007, 06:45 PM
Can I join in? I have a 1989 325ix with an automatic.

cbouchez
08-18-2007, 10:19 PM
interested M20 engine.

jrkoupe
08-19-2007, 06:31 PM
Can I join in? I have a 1989 325ix with an automatic.


no sorry......




















j/k:redspot

GADINA
08-24-2007, 11:01 AM
Brody where did u dissapear?I can see more than 10 people waiting for you...

THM3
08-24-2007, 03:02 PM
One for the S14! And what do I have to do to run this as far as a chip goes is that included in this group buy?

DonFather
08-29-2007, 11:36 PM
Is this still going on?

GADINA
08-30-2007, 01:12 AM
Broooodyyyyy we neeed yoooou :)

BigM62
09-01-2007, 11:11 AM
If you advertise and promote a performance upgrade,why not do a dyno BEFORE you promote.;)

GWL
09-01-2007, 11:28 AM
They would have to do a Dyno run on every model of car they build for. Not even large firms do this. They will typically show a Dyno run on a representative car only. Miller is not that large a firm. In an email from Miller the engineer said that they have chosen to leave Dyno runs up to the individual buyer. I suspect that is why so many prospective buyers depend on what previous users say about the upgrade. Some say no perceived increase in HP and some say they get some. All praise the improved throttle response and smoothness the MAF brings to their engines. I too wish they had more information, especially since I will have to pull my Conforti chip and use Miller's modified chip for this modification.

Pofke13LT
09-01-2007, 01:57 PM
I too wish they had more information, especially since I will have to pull my Conforti chip and use Miller's modified chip for this modification.

Well count me in for a MAF for my M30, however I dont know If im too keen on the idea of taking out my EAT chip...

GWL
09-01-2007, 03:56 PM
Well count me in for a MAF for my M30, however I dont know If im too keen on the idea of taking out my EAT chip...Unfortunately, this MAF kit requires a Chip change because Miller modifies the code in the chip to allow it to read the signals from the MAF. (unlike the Split Second system that uses an adjustable translation system that intercepts the signal from the MAF and converts it to one readable by the stock or custom chip.) I exchanged email with one M6 owner who had a Conforti chip and converted to the Miller. His seat of the pants analysis was that the car ran smoother, with no loss of power compared to the Conforti chip. That is why I am in line for this group buy.

toki
09-01-2007, 05:42 PM
so whats going on with this? very interested in picking up one for an M30.

GADINA
09-01-2007, 08:46 PM
Allright guys, I revieced an answer, here it is:

hey brody where did u dissaper mate, we're like 15 people waiting for you in the group buy...:rolleyes

There has been a lot going on up here with development and some personal issues with myself. Sorry for the delay. If you want to post the Promo Code GB987 and let everyone know its ready please do. It would help out a lot.

for the people that followed the instructions and emailed me they will be getting an email as well.

again can you post the coupon code GB987, that is used during the checkout process.

Thanks.

-Brody-

zubbie
09-02-2007, 06:39 AM
Just wondering whatever happened to this group buy. Were there not enough people? You can add me to the list if the option is still available. M30B35

DonFather
09-03-2007, 12:43 AM
I just checked the site, and it said that there are no kits for the 3.3 M30?!

Can someone please clear that for me. I really wanted to purchase one.

E34N
09-03-2007, 12:49 AM
I just checked the site, and it said that there are no kits for the 3.3 M30?!

Can someone please clear that for me. I really wanted to purchase one.

http://millerperformancecars.com/catalogue/11.html

kxmills
09-03-2007, 06:34 AM
I received my coupon on Saturday

chuck5
09-09-2007, 12:21 AM
is the group buy over?

BMWMPow3r
10-25-2007, 04:27 PM
is this offer still in the air? I'm interested, but my e28 has over 280k and I've read that you may encounter some driveability problems, if your car has less than perfect(idle control valve, fpr, o2 sensor, air leaks, other ecu sensors) fuel injection system. the MAF isn't as adabtable as the restrictive AFM, so a failing peice of electronics could get exploited by the Maf kit and cause drivability issues.
even though these problems should be addressed anyways.

the thing is, i believe that I have a weepy headgasket, because I lose coolant, but have no exterior leaks, and no oil/coolant mix. i believe its weeping into the combustion chamber, thus impacting the A/F mixture which the current AFM setup isn't bothered to much by. Its very apparent in the morning start-up, not all chambers fire like they should at first.

anyways, i am interested, and plan on including it on my next project, headgasket/shrick cam, Miller MAF kit.

would the $420 for the m30 motor include the tuned high octane chip for the shrick cam?

jrkoupe
01-29-2008, 06:34 PM
Just wanted those interested to know my new/unused/never instlld MAF/chip for the m20 is for sale. (I want to go s50)....... it is the later gen., like the one from this past GB. Im in NY.......$430....we can work on shipping .