Well, I finally got hit with a speeding ticket today for the first time ever :mad I was thinking about fighting the ticket using ticket assassin, but am not sure its worth it.

I was going down I-80 this morning doing close to 90 when I ran a cross a speed trap. I didn't see the cop until it was too late thanks to a couple big semis. I braked hard when I saw him, but after I flew by he pulled out and flipped on the lights. When he came up to my car he asked for the license and registration. He then told me he hit me at 86 initially using his radar's "fast mode" and then got me at 82 and 79 in front of him. He didn't ask me anything and simply said he was going to be nice and write me up at 80 and then went back to his car. The whole ordeal took about 5 minutes. I guess he was trying to get in as many tickets as possible that morning. lol. :mad

Has anyone had any luck with ticket assassin? I have been told you always want to fight traffic tickets, but since I was doing close to 90 and was written up at only 80 im not sure its worth it. I checked the fine online and for 80 it is only $140 whereas 80-90 would be almost $300. If you fight it by mail, can you get traffic court if you lose? Since this is my first ticket I qualify for traffic school and with my insurance as high as it is already I do not need it to go up because of a ticket.


BTW, I am about to buy a v1. I guess I'm not invincible after all. :(

I’ve had plenty O speeding tickets and 95% of the time it’s a waste of your time fighting them. I recently got a speeding ticking in WI and I live in MN, I was doing 77 in a 65 and the fine was $186.00. Also I had a Escort 8500 in my car and all it told me was I was getting a ticket (Granted it was laser). In general radar decors are just letting you know you have a ticket.

ok, :

A. You should be worried about maintaining "clean" license with NO points on it, rather than worrying about the cost of the fine.

B. Today I got a ticket for pulling out on the main road sideways with white smoke :D Got pulled over in an unmarked white van with the Painting magnets all over the sides. He wrote me up for an "Unsafe start". Now that I should be able to beat, will tell the judge parking lot i was pulling out from was unpaved and lots of gravel, car is RWD and that its manual (it isnt) - so I couldnt help it to pull out w/o some gravel flying around. However, as far as speeding tickets go, there just isnt too many reasons IMO to justify it. But then again, good luck.

C. V1 (have it for 4 years now) is the shit, compared it side to side via Escort 8500 and it beats it on any band + laser (laser on 8500 is useless), not to mention V1 having 360 degree laser AND RADAR retection. Yes it has more false alarms, but hey, better that than too late!!! But it has arrows and driving with them and then w/o them is like driving regular and blindfolded. The only time I got a ticket, was the REAR hit via LASER gun, and it still warned me. It's just with Laser, even if u detect it (which Escort does rarely from the front, let alone THE REAR HIT) its too late. But then again, there's are LAser Detectors out there, absolutely legal (other than Virginia, Maryland, DC and maybe 1 or 2 others), so u can jam it on initial hit and by the time he tries to hit u again, ull have enuff time to slow down. Im gonna get those things eventually, along with some VEIL gel, that u put on ur license plates and the headlights, so they dont reflect light as much. But as of right now I had my V1 for 4 years (even tho back then i was driving POS Ford Escort) and it has saved me countless times. Cant go wrong with them, NEVER!!! :buttrock

ok, :

A. You should be worried about maintaining "clean" license with NO points on it, rather than worrying about the cost of the fine.

B. Today I got a ticket for pulling out on the main road sideways with white smoke :D Got pulled over in an unmarked white van with the Painting magnets all over the sides. He wrote me up for an "Unsafe start". Now that I should be able to beat, will tell the judge parking lot i was pulling out from was unpaved and lots of gravel, car is RWD and that its manual (it isnt) - so I couldnt help it to pull out w/o some gravel flying around. However, as far as speeding tickets go, there just isnt too many reasons IMO to justify it. But then again, good luck.


I am really trying to maintain a clean record most importantly, which is why I am thinking of just paying the small fine and doing traffic school. I have to imagine this would be a pretty tough ticket to win especially since he got me on radar at 86. I a grateful he was kind enough to write me up at only 80.

ok, :

(laser on 8500 is useless)

There all useless on laser, once you’ve detected it your pretty much F’ed

I don’t care what radar detector you have you can still get a ticket with them which I have gotten so there kind of pointless. With the money you spend on the detector you could have paid the ticket and some.

I don’t care what radar detector you have you can still get a ticket with them which I have gotten so there kind of pointless. With the money you spend on the detector you could have paid the ticket and some.
I have never used a detector, so I could be all wrong, but I would imagine the ticket I got today could have been easily avoided with a detector.

eh fucking pigs I wouldn't fight it in this case the cop might be an asshole and say that u were actually going 86 in court ( can they do that? ) I use Passport 8500 X50 saved me from the pigs a few times supposedly one of the best radar detectors out there.

I fight every ticket I get... usually get the points cleared... I don't care what the fine is as long as I don't get any points

If your goal is to keep points off your license, and you are willing to pay the fine plus a couple hundred bucks for an attorney, find a cheap attorney who handles minor criminal matters who works in the jurisdiction of the cop. (And of course tell the court you are pleading not guilty in a timely manner per the instructions that came with the ticket.) He or she will in all likelihood tell the cop you are a good guy who is remorsefull, and the cop will be willing to reduce the ticket to one with no points, but a fine.

One other thing: If you use a radar detector, get it out of sight before the cop comes to the window. Also, there's a book called "the speedewrs guide to avoid getting tickets" or something like that. I recommend it for tips as to how to avoid a ticket once the cop car's lights go on.

Fight the ticket. I have had radar ticket's dropped, it is really not too bad. I spent 200 on a sleasy lawyer and he got the ticket dropped. Some of the better one's will not charge you if they can't get it dropped:cool You just gotta decide if it is worth the expense of a lawyer, your time, travel, ect.

If you plead not guilty and show up to court, 90% of the time the DA will offer to lower the ticket to something smaller....sometimes change it to something without points.

Worth the trip to court.

I don't know about your state, but here in Illinois you just hire a lawyer and they get it dropped to a non-moving violation and you're good to go. It will cost you some money, but it's usually better than letting your insurance go up. Or if you are feeling lucky you can show up to the court date and if the cop doesn't show then the ticket is dropped.

eric77 - Was it a 65? 80 in a 65?

For those that do fight their traffic tickets...how would you fight that if the cop got him on radar?

I have a court date on the 25 for 85 in a 65 - reckless driving. Also, my first speeding ticket

The cost of the radar does not compare to the cost of the ticket. The ticket cost the fine, then there is the ins hike, that you keep on paying. So the V1 is worth every penny tou spend on it. Get a new one, so if you have any future prob with it, you can send it back to them with no problem..

Fight the ticket, you will in most cases beat it with an exp lawyer. It may be cheaper to pay for the lawyer than the fine. And then there is the possibility of your ins going up. Avoid the points..... And the V1 is a great product, but it is not perfect, as stated above, the "Laser" can and will get you everytime".

You can fight any ticket, but you want to fight them with a lawyer who knows a thing or two about traffic laws. That is their specialty. In some states, speed traps are illegal, and must be justified by surveys, therefore they can be beat.

Good luck with your situation.

eric77 - Was it a 65? 80 in a 65?

For those that do fight their traffic tickets...how would you fight that if the cop got him on radar?

I have a court date on the 25 for 85 in a 65 - reckless driving. Also, my first speeding ticket

You are screwed:

http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/18/1818.asp

My 2 year clean streak hit its end. I got hit twice over the past 3 weeks. Both by laser - V1 was no help with either incident other than to tell me that I just got hit. WI state patrol is using laser very heavily - no radar traps but lots of laser. I drove through I-94 last night and thought the V1 might become useful as I thought they wouldn't ran laser traps at night. I was wrong - they still run laser traps at night! Luckly, my crappy headlights we're keeping my speed down so I wasn't going fast enough to get tagged (again). Radar detectors are slowly becoming useless as more police start using laser.

YMMV with every single ticket. I've fought so many with vastly different results each time. Some city/county attorneys are dicks, some are nice. If they don't cut a deal at the arraignment hearing, do a detailed request of discovery and bring the cop in. Make them work and turn the lose-win situation into a lose-lose.

I once had a bitchy city attorney bring the cop in twice for my 66/55 ticket. After informing them that it was going to cost the city more money to bring the cop back a second time than to just let me pay the ticket with no points, she replied with "it's not about the money." Obviously not, the cop showed up at the second hearing and I just paid the damn thing as I wasn't prepared to go in front of the judge.

Has anyone tried the Passport SRX or the Bell Pro RX75 which are both built in units which come complete with laser jammers? If so, how the the V1 compare?

I have never used a detector, so I could be all wrong, but I would imagine the ticket I got today could have been easily avoided with a detector.

if he got you on radar then yea it possibly could have been avoided. if he was pickin people off by shooting them with radar then your v1 could have picked it up a while back and by the time u passed him you'd be going the speed limit.

v1 is probably the best radar detector out there...and at $400 it aint cheap BUT IT worth the $$

it doesn't save you from a ticket but it sure does help.

as mentioned above if cops in your area use laser then by the time your radar detector picks up the laser you're gonna get a ticket....

but for x/k/ka band radar the v1 works great.....u never know when you're getting hit with radar so its good to have a detector..

I used an Escort 8500 for 2 years, up until it broke yesterday. It saved my ass lots of times, but began getting screwy with old age and giving way too many false alarms. Going to go with a V1 next. Driving without a radar detector feels like walking naked in public.

You are screwed:

http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/18/1818.asp

Actually, I got the ticket a month or so before, so I'm good. :D

Im a Law enforcment officer in RI, and in RI you can get your 1st ticket removed and only pay a small court fee. I dont know if other State have a good driver Law. You might want to look into it.

Im a Law enforcment officer in RI, and in RI you can get your 1st ticket removed and only pay a small court fee. I dont know if other State have a good driver Law. You might want to look into it.

You're a policeman? Let me ask you something, is their a quota per month cops need to meet or is that just a myth?

You're a policeman? Let me ask you something, is their a quota per month cops need to meet or is that just a myth?

I don't care what they say it's a myth. :mad

Well let me clear something for all you guys. This will come as a shock. Especially you Valentine and expensive escort radar detector units. There is NOTHING that can beat the latest radar or Laser. I do Warning systems speed monitoring systems for some of the towns around here in middlesex and some towns in PA. I have tested every radar/laser gun there is. These things can and will lock onto you in 1 second flat. Too late for the detectors to do anything. They will have a lock on you a mile away, granted clear line of sight. The only time a radar detector is good when there are a bunch of cars together but by then you will see a few cars up ahead hit their brakes telling you that a speed trap is up ahead. Now if your traveling in the fast lane and there is not many cars in front of you, you will be hit! Yes the detector will go off but by that time it will be too late. Also the radar guns can actually HEAR you hit the brakes. So not only can they detect speed but they can also tell if you hit your brakes. The cop is probably laughing at you when you hit your brakes cause he can hear you slow down too. When you hit your brakes, the speed obviously drops. That speed drop is audibly heard on the speaker of the radar gun and sounds like a cheap digital toy car or plane. Hard to explain.

Me and my boys did a test a few months back. They would not believe what I was saying. They had the latest Valentine and one of the Passports with the blue screen. I always clocked them speeding. At 1-2 mile intervals. They did say the detectors went off but it was way too late. I heard them slow down but still too late. Then we also did a head on radar where I was driving towards them and still no dice. The gun calculated everything within 1/2 a second.

Most radars now are instant on. They can be off till the cop wants to hit you. 99% of all radar on the east coast is now either Lidar (Laser) or pop radar (instant-on).

BTW radar jammers are garbage.They are not jamming anything. Remember instant on gets a reading in less then a second. If the jammer DOES work, it still has a 2 second lapse......2 seconds too late.


Alot of people say their detector saved them. No it didnt. Not only were you probably doing a speed thats under the pull over threshold but the cop also heard you brake the minute you saw him. Now if your doing 90 in a 45 and it saves you, then its a miracle. Have you noticed that when your detector goes off, your already doing a decent speed? Now if your doing 100, you will get caught regardless. nothing can save you.

Anyone want to test what I have written here, sure, lets have a bmw meet. I will bring all my toys, granted they are not already installed in cruisers.

Good luck with the tickets. I have beaten every ticket. There is no ticket out there that cant be beaten but you must play dirty. I wont give you the methods but it does entail screwing the court. also the cop will look like a complete idiot. Even though the cop will know he is right, he cant do anything since you are providing him "legit" evidence.

Wow, I got pulled over during the July 4th holiday break around 2 something in the morning. I was cruising it around 95mph and next thing I see are the flashing red light behind me.

After I pull over he asked for license, registration and insurance. I showed him my DL and told him that my registration and insurance was in my trunk, from my past experience cops dont like to have have the driver get out of the car unless they have to. So he asked me to open the trunk and get the registration and insurance he then gives me a sober test. I passed his sober test I was not worried about that since I was 100% sober, he then hands me my paper work and tells me he is going to let me go with a warning. I was in shock I didnt expect him to be let me go with a warning.

OP, according to the location you listed, I am assuming you are in California.

Whatever happened to you was not a "speed trap," please don't call it that. In California, a speed trap is partially defined as the following by CA DMV website:

CVC 40802:(1) A particular section of a highway measured as to distance and with boundaries marked, designated, or otherwise determined in order that the speed of a vehicle may be calculated by securing the time it takes the vehicle to travel the known distance.

Visit this link to read all about it: http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d17/vc40802.htm

You can fight the ticket but many factors come into play such as the officer showing up and how lenient the judge is. I say always fight it because it is your right, but if you don't have the time or the patience, just pay the bail and get the point taken care of by attending online traffic school. Easy as pie.

And when I talked to my cop friends who use the radar stuff, they concur with some of the other posters that radar detector's don't prevent squat, they just give speeders a false sense of security.

Good luck.

I don’t care what radar detector you have you can still get a ticket with them which I have gotten so there kind of pointless. With the money you spend on the detector you could have paid the ticket and some.

Some of us would get tickets which exceed the cost of a V1+remote display <the little red dude with shades>

Cheers,
Andre

I drove about 3k miles this past Holiday week and found enough radar speed traps to still be glad that I have the V1, but I think it is only a mater of time before the V1 becomes obsolete.

As for an e39 topic, does anyone else find themselves getting more tickets in the e39? I've been driving e36 and e30 m3's for several years now. I think I've gotten stopped about 3 times in the e30 and maybe 1-2 times in the e36 - over 5-7 years. I always find myself driving way too fast in the m3's and have been known to break 100 more than I should. I've had my e39 for a little over a month now and 2 tickets right off the bat. And, I'm not driving that fast in the e39. I got a 528i vs. the 540i for this reason - to keep my street driving speeds more reasonable. It's accomplished this, but hasn't helped a bit in terms of getting tickets. Does a black e39 528i just stand out too much??? During the first ticket I got in the e39, I was picked out of a group of 6-8 cars. I didn't even flinch when the V1 laser detector went off and the cop pulled out. I was certain he was going for one of the cars in front of me, but instead he slowed waaaay down and got behind me. Do people perceive the e39 as being a more expensive vehicle and more worthy of speeding tickets?

OP, according to the location you listed, I am assuming you are in California.

Whatever happened to you was not a "speed trap," please don't call it that. In California, a speed trap is partially defined as the following by CA DMV website:

CVC 40802:(1) A particular section of a highway measured as to distance and with boundaries marked, designated, or otherwise determined in order that the speed of a vehicle may be calculated by securing the time it takes the vehicle to travel the known distance.

Visit this link to read all about it: http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d17/vc40802.htm

You can fight the ticket but many factors come into play such as the officer showing up and how lenient the judge is. I say always fight it because it is your right, but if you don't have the time or the patience, just pay the bail and get the point taken care of by attending online traffic school. Easy as pie.

And when I talked to my cop friends who use the radar stuff, they concur with some of the other posters that radar detector's don't prevent squat, they just give speeders a false sense of security.

Good luck.
yeah, this was in Cali on I-80 just west of Tahoe. Do you know if its possible to have the ticket lowered to something with no points and a fine? I know some states do this, but I'm not sure it happens in cali. As much as I hate paying the actual ticket, keeping my record clean is most important, which is why I am very hesitant to fight it and possibly miss out on traffic school.

btw, I just ordered a V1. Hopefully it works well enough.

Well let me clear something for all you guys. This will come as a shock. Especially you Valentine and expensive escort radar detector units. There is NOTHING that can beat the latest radar or Laser. I do Warning systems speed monitoring systems for some of the towns around here in middlesex and some towns in PA. I have tested every radar/laser gun there is. These things can and will lock onto you in 1 second flat. Too late for the detectors to do anything. They will have a lock on you a mile away, granted clear line of sight. The only time a radar detector is good when there are a bunch of cars together but by then you will see a few cars up ahead hit their brakes telling you that a speed trap is up ahead. Now if your traveling in the fast lane and there is not many cars in front of you, you will be hit! Yes the detector will go off but by that time it will be too late. Also the radar guns can actually HEAR you hit the brakes. So not only can they detect speed but they can also tell if you hit your brakes. The cop is probably laughing at you when you hit your brakes cause he can hear you slow down too. When you hit your brakes, the speed obviously drops. That speed drop is audibly heard on the speaker of the radar gun and sounds like a cheap digital toy car or plane. Hard to explain.

Me and my boys did a test a few months back. They would not believe what I was saying. They had the latest Valentine and one of the Passports with the blue screen. I always clocked them speeding. At 1-2 mile intervals. They did say the detectors went off but it was way too late. I heard them slow down but still too late. Then we also did a head on radar where I was driving towards them and still no dice. The gun calculated everything within 1/2 a second.

Most radars now are instant on. They can be off till the cop wants to hit you. 99% of all radar on the east coast is now either Lidar (Laser) or pop radar (instant-on).

BTW radar jammers are garbage.They are not jamming anything. Remember instant on gets a reading in less then a second. If the jammer DOES work, it still has a 2 second lapse......2 seconds too late.


Alot of people say their detector saved them. No it didnt. Not only were you probably doing a speed thats under the pull over threshold but the cop also heard you brake the minute you saw him. Now if your doing 90 in a 45 and it saves you, then its a miracle. Have you noticed that when your detector goes off, your already doing a decent speed? Now if your doing 100, you will get caught regardless. nothing can save you.

Anyone want to test what I have written here, sure, lets have a bmw meet. I will bring all my toys, granted they are not already installed in cruisers.

Good luck with the tickets. I have beaten every ticket. There is no ticket out there that cant be beaten but you must play dirty. I wont give you the methods but it does entail screwing the court. also the cop will look like a complete idiot. Even though the cop will know he is right, he cant do anything since you are providing him "legit" evidence.

cool post gumbi. I must say that I didnt know cops could 'hear' you slow down. interesting. I learned something new today lol. anyway I definately get what youre saying, but its a bit extreme to say that radar detectors dont save you. most definately if youre the only car around and youre speeding, when your detector goes off its too late. anytime youre directly hit with radar, its too late. this is not new news to me. my detector 'saves me' when it alerts me of cars being hit with radar 1/4 mile or 1/2 mile ahead of me. then I know theres radar somewhere in the near future so I drop down from 95 to 70. sure enough a little ways down the road theres a trooper hiding behind a thicket of grass and you cant see him until you go past him, and I would not have seen him at all if I hadnt been diligently looking for him. thank god or I would have almost surely gotten pulled over for 90+ mph...this has happened to me at least 3 times in the last month.

my point is of course you cant drive around blindly speeding and expect to be good to go b/c youre sporting a radar detector. of course if a cop directly hits you with radar your detector is useless. but I felt your post was basically saying that radar detectors are worthless and never save you and theres no point in having one since they cant 'beat' pop radar, etc. and thats just crazy talk. they definately help out by alerting you of nearby/upcoming radar, not radar that youre presently driving past.

and I agree anything with laser youre screwed lol

You guys should read this, free advice and it works for the most part. I've tried some of these and they work.

http://www.keelynet.com/misc/ticket1.htm

Well let me clear something for all you guys. This will come as a shock. Especially you Valentine and expensive escort radar detector units. There is NOTHING that can beat the latest radar or Laser. I do Warning systems speed monitoring systems for some of the towns around here in middlesex and some towns in PA. I have tested every radar/laser gun there is. These things can and will lock onto you in 1 second flat. Too late for the detectors to do anything. They will have a lock on you a mile away, granted clear line of sight. The only time a radar detector is good when there are a bunch of cars together but by then you will see a few cars up ahead hit their brakes telling you that a speed trap is up ahead. Now if your traveling in the fast lane and there is not many cars in front of you, you will be hit! Yes the detector will go off but by that time it will be too late. Also the radar guns can actually HEAR you hit the brakes. So not only can they detect speed but they can also tell if you hit your brakes. The cop is probably laughing at you when you hit your brakes cause he can hear you slow down too. When you hit your brakes, the speed obviously drops. That speed drop is audibly heard on the speaker of the radar gun and sounds like a cheap digital toy car or plane. Hard to explain.

Me and my boys did a test a few months back. They would not believe what I was saying. They had the latest Valentine and one of the Passports with the blue screen. I always clocked them speeding. At 1-2 mile intervals. They did say the detectors went off but it was way too late. I heard them slow down but still too late. Then we also did a head on radar where I was driving towards them and still no dice. The gun calculated everything within 1/2 a second.

Most radars now are instant on. They can be off till the cop wants to hit you. 99% of all radar on the east coast is now either Lidar (Laser) or pop radar (instant-on).

BTW radar jammers are garbage.They are not jamming anything. Remember instant on gets a reading in less then a second. If the jammer DOES work, it still has a 2 second lapse......2 seconds too late.


Alot of people say their detector saved them. No it didnt. Not only were you probably doing a speed thats under the pull over threshold but the cop also heard you brake the minute you saw him. Now if your doing 90 in a 45 and it saves you, then its a miracle. Have you noticed that when your detector goes off, your already doing a decent speed? Now if your doing 100, you will get caught regardless. nothing can save you.

Anyone want to test what I have written here, sure, lets have a bmw meet. I will bring all my toys, granted they are not already installed in cruisers.

Good luck with the tickets. I have beaten every ticket. There is no ticket out there that cant be beaten but you must play dirty. I wont give you the methods but it does entail screwing the court. also the cop will look like a complete idiot. Even though the cop will know he is right, he cant do anything since you are providing him "legit" evidence.

Most of what you're saying is only relevant if your driving on a flat straight road with no other cars. I've been saved by my detector more than a dozen times, but yes because there were other cars down the road being hit before me and I was getting their warning. And for a miracle story, I got lasered doing 95+ in a 70MPH zone, I looked in my rear-view mirror and saw two cops on the top of an overpass. I maintained speed for a couple of seconds and then increased it and got off at a near exit. I now know about this trap on I-75 in Michigan where the police do laser radar from on top of an overpass at the Chrysler Tech Center and radio down to other police cars to pull over the offender. I saw the cop drive down the road while I was on the exit ramp. Could he have been after someone else? ...maybe, but I don't think so I and quite happy I had my warning.

Anyway, I think just as the police use their tools, the detector is only a tool and you have to know how to use it. And I agree the Police tools are getting more and more sophisticated, but I still want a tool to fight back.

cool post gumbi. I must say that I didnt know cops could 'hear' you slow down. interesting. I learned something new today lol. anyway I definately get what youre saying, but its a bit extreme to say that radar detectors dont save you. most definately if youre the only car around and youre speeding, when your detector goes off its too late. anytime youre directly hit with radar, its too late. this is not new news to me. my detector 'saves me' when it alerts me of cars being hit with radar 1/4 mile or 1/2 mile ahead of me. then I know theres radar somewhere in the near future so I drop down from 95 to 70. sure enough a little ways down the road theres a trooper hiding behind a thicket of grass and you cant see him until you go past him, and I would not have seen him at all if I hadnt been diligently looking for him. thank god or I would have almost surely gotten pulled over for 90+ mph...this has happened to me at least 3 times in the last month.

my point is of course you cant drive around blindly speeding and expect to be good to go b/c youre sporting a radar detector. of course if a cop directly hits you with radar your detector is useless. but I felt your post was basically saying that radar detectors are worthless and never save you and theres no point in having one since they cant 'beat' pop radar, etc. and thats just crazy talk. they definately help out by alerting you of nearby/upcoming radar, not radar that youre presently driving past.

and I agree anything with laser youre screwed lol

Good point buddy. Yes RADAR detectors are best when used in conjunction with fellow drivers ahead of you. Recently I got my hands on a newly released radar. Its very new and not many are using it. North east troopers will be the first to get it and costs waaay too much for towns and city's. Strictly highway use. It can catch multiple targets and give range in feet. For instance our turnpike here is 4 lanes at some points. If 4 cars are travelling within a few feet of each other in all 4 lanes, the detector will get readings on all 4 vehicles and give you the lane number. Our good friends at MPH came up with it. Right now it has kinks in it but Im still trying to figure out if its a major threat to us speeders lol. For now we dont have to worry about it.

As for good and bad detectors, I guess if you spend the good money for a Valentine and a nice passport, it will give you a warning quicker. And yes it might save you. Most of the time we do have fellow drivers in front of us to help us get warnings but the newest pop radar which some towns have started using dont give off a strong enough signal for the detectors to go off and give a decent warning jolt. We did a test with one of our BEE 3 radar guns and set it at a low setting. it still caught speed readings when the vehicle was about a 1/4 mile away and the detector only got 0-1 bar at 1/4 mile and as it got closer, the highest the detector ever got to was 2 bars and this was when the two vehicles crossed.

Then once we set the bee to stealth settings, the detector didnt go off till it was about 4 car lenghts away from the radar gun. Usually this is interpeted as a false reading due to the way the radar is sending out pulses. I know sometimes driving around, even the best radar will give you a single bar due to over head wiring and lighting.

Its one of the questionable things. I guess just dont speed. When your hauling ass and your all alone at night, then your looking to get clipped.

Recently I got my hands on a newly released radar. Its very new and not many are using it. North east troopers will be the first to get it and costs waaay too much for towns and city's. Strictly highway use. It can catch multiple targets and give range in feet. For instance our turnpike here is 4 lanes at some points. If 4 cars are travelling within a few feet of each other in all 4 lanes, the detector will get readings on all 4 vehicles and give you the lane number.

That's some scary shit! Just goes to show how much $$ the towns and states make from nabbing speeders that a company could afford to do the R&D to create this. The amount of money they can make must be one of the reasons Montana dropped this
http://www.us-highways.com/montana/mtspeedsign.jpg

That's some scary shit! Just goes to show how much $$ the towns and states make from nabbing speeders that a company could afford to do the R&D to create this. The amount of money they can make must be one of the reasons Montana dropped this
http://www.us-highways.com/montana/mtspeedsign.jpg

Reasonable and prudent? WTF is that supposed to be? To me its usually 80-85 and 90 at night.

That's what the speed limit (or guideline) used to be in the state of Montana. It only needs this sign too to make it complete:

http://thefunnybone.com/slower/realsign.gif

I like this one a little better:

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No im not a local cop, but im in Law Enforcement. To answer your question in RI there are no quotas for tickets.

I like this one a little better:

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I agree :buttrock

I like this one a little better:

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If only the f***er doing 70 in the left lane that I had to pass on the right when I got my ticket would have followed that. I'd probably still be ticket free. :mad

eric77, anything is possible in traffic court. It all depends on the commissioner/judge. I have been to traffic court many times and have seen people give the stupidest excuses for why they did what they did to try to get out of a ticket. In the end, they still got the fine, a point, but the commissioner/judge still asked if they wanted to go to traffic school if they were eligible.

If you present a good case and the commissioner/judge sees it your way, case dismissed or an alternate consequence such as lowing the fine. If the officer doesn't show up for any reason, case dismissed. Case dismissed is a very good thing for you. Doesn't hurt to try.

BTW radar jammers are garbage.They are not jamming anything. Remember instant on gets a reading in less then a second. If the jammer DOES work, it still has a 2 second lapse......2 seconds too late.

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What about laser jammers?

If only the f***er doing 70 in the left lane that I had to pass on the right when I got my ticket would have followed that. I'd probably still be ticket free. <delete red face>

Not to rain on your parade, but if you want to play accept the risk to pay.

Nothing makes you want to drop a pickle more than having a CHP cruizer catch up with you after you are off the interstate (I-5) after you just redlined/WOT for 10 minutes watching your V1 Ka signal drop to zero, and then pull up behind you and pulse his Ka at night. Get yourself the remote display, or you will be picked out in the dark. Oh yeah, if I had gotten pulled, my speedo in my 928 only goes to 85MPH and that has been enough to get me off the hook. It is okay to watch the officer laugh his ass off at a Porsche w/ a speedo stopping at 85, especially when you don't get a ticket for being close to 100.

What about laser jammers?

Any jammer. they do NOT work. Spend the money on a valentine or a passprt which is over 299 bucks then your in the game. Also I DONT advise you do this but if you pop open your radar detectors, there is a small circular
POTS adjuster. Its like a small phillips head screw that just turns but doesnt unscrew. It adjusts the sensitivity of the radar detector. If you adjust this on a cheaper detector like a cobra, the damn thing wont shut the fuck up but if you have a top end model, it will work nicely. It will give you single bar detection up to 3 miles away BUT it will give some false positives. The expensive models have anti-false alarm circuitry which will help some of the false alarms.

Any jammer. they do NOT work. Spend the money on a valentine or a passprt which is over 299 bucks then your in the game. Also I DONT advise you do this but if you pop open your radar detectors, there is a small circular

Radar jammers do not work, laser jammers do and there are plenty of tests on the web from magazines to prove it. I've had a V1 for 12 years (and have upgraded), with laser and all the newer forms of radar, it's far from the protection it used to be.

Those mags are paid by the manufacturers. Only trust one from an inbiased reviewer. Im not a cop and I dont work for the manufacturer. Im just telling you what i know and what i have dealt with.

Those mags are paid by the manufacturers. Only trust one from an inbiased reviewer. Im not a cop and I dont work for the manufacturer. Im just telling you what i know and what i have dealt with.

Not all the reviews are from the manufacturers, but their are plenty of crap reviews on the net. Laser jammers aren't disputed as to whether they work......just how well depending on model. Only sure way to keep away from tickets these days is to stay 10 or so over the speedlimit max.

Radar jammers are crap unless they are active jammers and then they are super illegal.......so a lose lose on that one.

http://www.guysoflidar.com/testing.html

Anyone know how inflated our speedometers are? I have always known they were somewhat inflated, but never figured out by how much.

Yesterday I was driving along the freeway at an indicated 74-75 and my dad was right behind me in an aston martin. While my speedo was reading 74-75 he told me his digital speedo was at 68. If his speedo was correct that means mine is off by nearly 10%!

Anyone know how inflated our speedometers are? I have always known they were somewhat inflated, but never figured out by how much.

Yesterday I was driving along the freeway at an indicated 74-75 and my dad was right behind me in an aston martin. While my speedo was reading 74-75 he told me his digital speedo was at 68. If his speedo was correct that means mine is off by nearly 10%!

Easy to figure out, just run a GPS in the car and see what it tells you. I've noticed my speedo is a few miles high at speeds 50 and above.

Easy to figure out, just run a GPS in the car and see what it tells you. I've noticed my speedo is a few miles high at speeds 50 and above.
Unfortunately, I don't have a gps or know anyone that does.

Mine is a consistently 2-3 mph high compared to the gps.

Unfortunately, I don't have a gps or know anyone that does.

You can get a decent one these days for 200-300 that mounts on the windshield. Best mod on the planet in my opinion.

You can get a decent one these days for 200-300 that mounts on the windshield. Best mod on the planet in my opinion.
I think those things look hideous. Too much clutter for me. lol. I can get directions off my blackberry if necessary.

I think those things look hideous. Too much clutter for me. lol. I can get directions off my blackberry if necessary.

I have multiple GPS systems these days. My PDA allows full GPS, MP3 and AVI playback.....need to hook that up to the BMW some day....but time isn't on my side at the moment. When I travel it's what I use for rental cars.

My fiancee's Blackberry hooks up to my PDA's GPS module, so I can use Google maps (download it for the Blackberry), to pick up traffic and also locate my position. I refuse to use a Blackberry myself.....I like to have a life :).

The Magellan GPS is also decent......we only pull it out when we need it and saves a bunch of hassle getting lost. I travel all the time and living without one isn't something I can think of these days.

Form follows function for everything in my case.....so doesn't bother me at all.

FYI, in CT you don't get points on your license for speeding if you just plead no contest and send in the ticket. Not sure how many other states do this.

http://www.jud.ct.gov/faq/traffic.html#q12

As long as you aren't going over 85 which is considered reckless driving you should be good with regard to being able to send it in and not get points. I got caught doing 90 in my wife's 330i a few weekends ago and the guy wrote it up at 85 so I sent it in.

FYI, in CT you don't get points on your license for speeding if you just plead no contest and send in the ticket. Not sure how many other states do this.

http://www.jud.ct.gov/faq/traffic.html#q12

As long as you aren't going over 85 which is considered reckless driving you should be good with regard to being able to send it in and not get points. I got caught doing 90 in my wife's 330i a few weekends ago and the guy wrote it up at 85 so I sent it in.

85 is reckless driving in CT.....but I haven't been able to find anything that says you won't be assessed points for regular speeding. In fact, I've found the opposite:

I'm changing my license to CT soon.....and not looking forward to the new rules. NY doesn't accept tickets from out of state (with the exception of Canada....go figure). CT, on the other hand, assesses point etc for everything.

http://www.dmv.org/ct-connecticut/point-system.php

my gps shows me goin 5 to 10 mph slower than my speedo says..i always thought that the gps couldn't tell exactly how fast you are going, but maybe i'm wrong with that