Has anyone seen any pricing info on the new 1s. I may have my wife talked into waiting for one!!!

128i is expected to be $27-$29k. 135i somewhere between $32-$35k. These are "base" prices. 135i should come pretty well loaded for that price.

A used e46 M might have some competition with a brand new 135i as far as my next car purchase is concerned!

i was hoping they would start off at 26k......when in 08 are they coming out?

Yup... 1st post!

I was in the market for the 335i, but the 1 series is intriguing. I sold my 2005 WRX for the 335i and now I'll have to wait for this. The price is much more attractive, although, nothing is official yet.

sweet, so by the time i'm out of college, it should be low enough that i can afford one :devillook 3-4 years

i was hoping they would start off at 26k......when in 08 are they coming out?

You might be able to get a base 128i for that price. Rumor has the release of mid March (the 22nd sticks in my head for some reason or another) in 2008, but some think November of 2007 is possible.

latest Autoweek magazine says the 1 Series will go on sale here in October and a 128i and a 135i will be available. It says the 135i will have performance just barely under the new M. It also says it is on par with a Cayman S.

The 128i will be no slouch as it has 230 HP. What it didn't tell us is the weight.

I'll probably wait 2 or 3 years before picking up a 1 series after they work out all of the kinks.

My source at BMW told me that a reasonably equipped 128 would be $25,000-26,000.

You might be able to get a base 128i for that price. Rumor has the release of mid March (the 22nd sticks in my head for some reason or another) in 2008, but some think November of 2007 is possible.

thats all I want plus some bi xenon projectors........The 1 series will sell like HOT CAKES if they are under 28k. I don't think they will do it because a fully loaded mini cooper is around 27k...

My source at BMW told me that a reasonably equipped 128 would be $25,000-26,000.

id like to see that!!!!:D:eek::buttrock

latest Autoweek magazine says the 1 Series will go on sale here in October and a 128i and a 135i will be available. It says the 135i will have performance just barely under the new M. It also says it is on par with a Cayman S.

The 128i will be no slouch as it has 230 HP. What it didn't tell us is the weight.

I'll probably wait 2 or 3 years before picking up a 1 series after they work out all of the kinks.


this was for the 130i

Length × Width × Height in: 171.7 × 68.8 × 55.4
Weight lb (kg): 3438 (1560)


so im estimating the 128i to be maybe a little bit lighter

this was for the 130i

Length × Width × Height in: 171.7 × 68.8 × 55.4
Weight lb (kg): 3438 (1560)


so im estimating the 128i to be maybe a little bit lighter
This is EU weight, which includes 175lb driver and full tank of fuel.

orly?

damn thats gonna be nice then! a lot lighter than im expectin it to be now

I'll probably wait 2 or 3 years before picking up a 1 series after they work out all of the kinks.

They've been selling the 1 series for awhile elsewhere in the world. Any reason you feel that wouldn't have the kinks worked out by the time they bring it here?

orly?

damn thats gonna be nice then! a lot lighter than im expectin it to be now

and much heavier than I expected

They've been selling the 1 series for awhile elsewhere in the world. Any reason you feel that wouldn't have the kinks worked out by the time they bring it here?

Yes, but I think the 2 door coupe destined for America is different from the 1 series that is sold in Europe. Aren't the European 1 series cars all hatchbacks with different engines from those planned for the American 1 series?

The 1 series looks pretty cool. It reminds me more of the e36; small agile and sporty. If I had a better job than waving those housing development signs around, I would consider buying a new 135. Until then, my 1/18th scale M3 will have to do.

This is EU weight, which includes 175lb driver and full tank of fuel.

That's still rather heavy at around 3150 pounds.

Definitely excited about the 128i and 135i. I could easily see my self picking one up used after I'm done with school.

BMW needs to get on the hog with this one and get us some official pricing...

if they price it low enough, they won't do ANYTHING to their image and they'll sell as many as they can make....

From what I understand it may be a little while before they release any pricing info. One of the local dealers here says, BMW is notorious for the calculated timing of when they release details. More is definetly expected in the next couple months, but he said he wouldn't be suprised the details are released so late that people are preordering without firm pricing info.

Yes, but I think the 2 door coupe destined for America is different from the 1 series that is sold in Europe. Aren't the European 1 series cars all hatchbacks with different engines from those planned for the American 1 series?

The 1 series looks pretty cool. It reminds me more of the e36; small agile and sporty. If I had a better job than waving those housing development signs around, I would consider buying a new 135. Until then, my 1/18th scale M3 will have to do.

The engines are used in the 3 already, so it's not like they're anything new. The oil temp problem in the N54 should be worked out by then. And the suspension setup is supposedly recycled from the E46.... Not much that's really "new" on this car. There shouldn't really be any kinks.

And for anyone saying 31XX or 32XX pounds is too heavy for a US-spec car which seats four, has 300HP, and has all the hardware to make the power manageable, is CRAZY. This is not an Elise, it's not 1975, and we can't have paper thin doors like they do in Japan....

I've taken a liking to these spiffy little coupes. If they really do sell for less than $28k, and couple that with BMWs spectacular lease deals, I may be able to get one some time after they come out.

I need a 135i under $33k and in the 3100lb range. If BMW can do that, I'm in.

I need a 135i under $33k and in the 3100lb range. If BMW can do that, I'm in.
The weight's what I'm worried about. If they can keep it 3100, like you said, I'll be interested. If it ends up being a German pig, I'm looking elsewhere.


~Zar4

the problem isn't the weight on the 135, its the weight on the 128...

the problem isn't the weight on the 135, its the weight on the 128...
Please expand on that statement. Are you saying that 230hp isn't enought for the 128 or that the 1 series in general is just too heavy (which would be my point of view).

the 135 wont really feel the weight, the 128 WILL...

Ok. So how much do you think the GREEDY dealers are going to mark up these car? I 'd say at least 5K for the 135i and 2 to 3 K for the 128i. This will be the norm for the 1st year or so. Makes more of the case to go with the 335i...

the 1 series is going to be quick in 128i and stupid fast for the 135i....the 1 series isn't a porker, but the days of cars under 2800lbs for a BMW model is over. Aside from the body, drivetrain, you have all the electric nannies, pointless gizmos, and tons and tons of sound deadening material. A 128i is going to be on par w an e36 M3 in terms of acceleration while the 135i with be on par w the e46 M

The 135i certainly looks like a great option for me after I graduate college :)

They've been selling the 1 series for awhile elsewhere in the world. Any reason you feel that wouldn't have the kinks worked out by the time they bring it here?


the history of bmw waiting a few years to offer the best deal. case n point the 2005 M3 Comp Package for only 4k more. Had I bought an 01 M3 - 04 M3, I wouldve been quite disappointed that I couldve gotten a nicer M3 for a mere 4k more.

Same goes for the E92 M3... you gotta be 'silly' to buy that thing in November.

Wouldn't weight be at least ~100lb or so difference between the 135 and 128? Considering the weight of the turbos/manifold/plumbing, that it will probably be more "loaded", etc.

Either way, I'm pretty set on a 128... The only thing to deter me now is a lack of a limited slip.

That's still rather heavy at around 3150 pounds.

Definitely excited about the 128i and 135i. I could easily see my self picking one up used after I'm done with school.

heavy? it doesn't way much(if any) more than your e36, that's light for a new car

Wouldn't weight be at least ~100lb or so difference between the 135 and 128? Considering the weight of the turbos/manifold/plumbing, that it will probably be more "loaded", etc.

Either way, I'm pretty set on a 128... The only thing to deter me now is a lack of a limited slip.

Aftermarket LSDs should be a-plenty, or wait for a possible 128 ZHP?

Ok. So how much do you think the GREEDY dealers are going to mark up these car? I 'd say at least 5K for the 135i and 2 to 3 K for the 128i. This will be the norm for the 1st year or so. Makes more of the case to go with the 335i...

i was thinking this same thing.

i like the look of the 135 but whats the point? financially i feel like i should just get the 335.

I think 36k loaded for a 135

Cant wait for this sucker.

I think 36k loaded for a 135

Wouldn't that be nice? No matter how "loaded" a base 135i will be (brakes, suspension, wheels, etc...) I'm sure BMW will be able to make a case to justify $4k+ in available options.

So you're guessing $32k for a base 135i? I really doubt that's possible although that would be enough good news to tide me over for years.

I figure I've been driving for 12 years without Nav, so that's completely unnecessary to me. Just one more thing to get hooked on.... That alone runs what...? $1400? And the premium package I could definitely do without unless it comes with seats that are much better than the base model. Premium sound I could do without because I pretty much always build a sound system from scratch with aftermarket components anyway....

So lets take a stab at guessing lease options. Im gonna say 2999 down, 299 per month for 36 months. If thats the case, I might sell my car and get one, and my wife probably will get one! Im excited to see one.

335i msrp is ~$41k, so i would say $32k is a reasonable estimate for the 135i

<3200lbs with 300hp? I guess all of you guys with E36's hate your cars because they are all pigs...

vjlax18,
Be nice now. But the E36 will be feeling dated alright (as a 12 year-old design should).

My E36 M3 sucks because it's 3175lbs and only has ~310hp at the crank.

I'm all about the 1 series, and for people to bitch about a car being heavy at 3200lbs is rediculous. Welcome to 1992...

I can't wait to get a 135 for a daily driver and keep my M3 as the toy.

That's a good plan!

The 135i certainly looks like a great option for me after I graduate college :)

stay in school, there's nothing more important than a good education.

the problem isn't the weight on the 135, its the weight on the 128...

Nah, the problem is the extra 65 lbs on *my* frame vs. that of the "average" European! :D

thats all I want plus some bi xenon projectors........The 1 series will sell like HOT CAKES if they are under 28k. I don't think they will do it because a fully loaded mini cooper is around 27k...

a fully loaded cooper S is more than 27k, quite a bit more, you can really go crazy on mc options

a fully loaded cooper S is more than 27k, quite a bit more, you can really go crazy on mc optionsI've seen $31K Cooper S buys on NAM forums pretty regularly. I didn't go crazy and we paid MSRP of $25,120 for our '07 MCS.

I've seen $31K Cooper S buys on NAM forums pretty regularly. I didn't go crazy and we paid MSRP of $25,120 for our '07 MCS.

Doesn't everyone pay MSRP for a Mini? I was told by my dealer to go online, configure the car, print out the specs, and bring it in for order. The price on the sheet is what I would pay. He said it was standard procedure for Minis now, since some dealers were marking them up when they were first released. I paid just under $27k for my Mini (loaded minus nav, premium sound, and JCW kit) The JCW kit will get the Mini into the low $30k's

Yeah, I kept to Premium, heated cloth seats, sport suspension and LSD. All-in-all a very nice car, but man, does that thing have torque steer!

my mcs will be here in a week or two

I paid 500 under msrp, but with junk doc fees and shiping charges it works out to MSRP out the door

anthracite headliner, sport, premium, heated cloth seats, LSD, red with black roof

I did not get the sport package, I was told it was only thicker swaybars, now info has come out that it's springs, shocks, and swaybars

no biggie though, I'll put on coilovers and lower it anyway

my out the door price is 25,724 $

As to pricing, expect a whole lot of mark ups. I guess you have not bought too many new bmw's, everything is an add on...

i read somewhere that the 135i should do 0-60 in around 5.2 sec.

As to pricing, expect a whole lot of mark ups. I guess you have not bought too many new bmw's, everything is an add on...

suposedly the 135i comes with a ton of options standard


personally in 3 years when I probably will get one, I hope they have "delete" options

Wouldn't weight be at least ~100lb or so difference between the 135 and 128? Considering the weight of the turbos/manifold/plumbing, that it will probably be more "loaded", etc.

Either way, I'm pretty set on a 128... The only thing to deter me now is a lack of a limited slip.

Agreed, between the turbos, larger wheels, bigger tires, brakes, beefier suspension, the 135 will be a good 100 lbs heavier than the 128 I bet. I'm down for a base 135 for around $33K hopefully. Shoot, even the base has the sweet brakes, 6 speed manual, 18's, etc etc. :buttrock

thats all I want plus some bi xenon projectors........The 1 series will sell like HOT CAKES if they are under 28k. I don't think they will do it because a fully loaded mini cooper is around 27k...

Which is exactly why they would do that. The 1 series is going to be direct cooper competition.

Which is exactly why they would do that. The 1 series is going to be direct cooper competition.

a fully loaded cooper is a LOT more than that

I got a bare one for 27k

Yeah and people that pay 30 grand for coopers crack me up. :rofl It's a econocar for chrissakes. I've been behind the wheel of one for 20K+ miles, so I know the cars inside and out, they're a ripoff at best. You can get a MKV GTI base which comes with xenons, 17's, 210 hp turbo, etc etc for $22K....WAY more car than a cooper could hope to be. I don't pay for cuteness in my cars. :) The 1 series is in a different planetary alignment than a cooper.

Yeah and people that pay 30 grand for coopers crack me up. :rofl It's a econocar for chrissakes. I've been behind the wheel of one for 20K+ miles, so I know the cars inside and out, they're a ripoff at best. You can get a MKV GTI base which comes with xenons, 17's, 210 hp turbo, etc etc for $22K....WAY more car than a cooper could hope to be. I don't pay for cuteness in my cars. :) The 1 series is in a different planetary alignment than a cooper.


there's a bunch of us that bought the new mini cooper turbo's INSTEAD of the 1 series

I've never driven a more fun car, I test drove the vw, did not like it as much as the MCS

there's a bunch of us that bought the new mini cooper turbo's INSTEAD of the 1 series

I've never driven a more fun car, I test drove the vw, did not like it as much as the MCS

they are fun cars! my gf has a 06 mc, its slow but i love how good it corners. However, I wouldn't pay more than 25k for a mcs. I dont even want alot of things on it, and i still can't get a brand new one for less than 25.lol i rather buy the 1 series. I test drove the gti vw and those cars are straight crap!!! The inside is soo cheap! I guess if you are under 25 years old you could love that car to death. It didn't seem all that faster than the mcs. Mini cooper is a 100 times better quaility and a better car! I hope the 128i with bi xenon headlights is under 28k and im sold.

Our '07 MCS cost 25K. My wife is 55 and she loves it to death. The turbo and direct injection made a world of difference from our '02 MCS.

mine was 27k, I only got a few options, heated seats, LSD, premium for the sunroof, and the sport package, that's pretty bare bones compared to most

did you all notice how much they want for the nav? it's a 2200 $ option, that's almost 10 % of the cost of the car! they are insane

I'm old school and think Nav is worthless anyway. If I ever decide I MUST have it, I'll get a Garmin or similar.

I'm old school and think Nav is worthless anyway. If I ever decide I MUST have it, I'll get a Garmin or similar.

same here, I've got 4 cars and I travel for work, a garmin is much much better for me

I was wrong on the price, it was 26k for me, I posted all the options I got in this thread earlier

I will wait until late winter 09. The 135i is mine. By then the price should be MSRP at max. I won't pay over sticker ever. If its loaded for $35k thats fine, but I read that BMW's idrive/nav is crap. Acura has the best NAV. But FWD sucks with 286hp. What will the dry weight be for the 135i manual?

... What will the dry weight be for the 135i manual?
No one knows since dry weights aren't published. The weight shown elsewhere on this forum are EU weights, which include driver, one piece luggage and full fuel. Best estimates of US curb weight run ~3250.

If it weighs 3250 its about 300# lighter then the 335i. Thats a decent difference. 0-60 should be a little faster then the 335i. 0-60 from 4.8 to 5.1 seconds seams accurate. What about a possible 2 series? How would that fit between the 1 and 3 series? They aren't much diff in weight.

Anyway, I will be VERY ready to buy a 135i in a little over a year. COOL.

While speaking to my salesman this morning he reported the 08' 3-series cars on his lot have not had a price increase, they are priced as the 07' herd. That should mean the 135i will be a bit less than the 3-series. Good news.

Cody

Cody, are you messin' with us again? I don't know how there are '08 3-Series on the dealer's lot in August when '08 production doesn't normaly start until September '07.

That's what he told me. I'm just returning to this BMW 'thing' so you guys will be leading the way.

Cody

I work at a BMW dealership and we have had the 08 models on the floor for at least 2 or 3 weeks.

Which '08 models?

Cody, are you messin' with us again? I don't know how there are '08 3-Series on the dealer's lot in August when '08 production doesn't normaly start until September '07.

He's right, I've seen the memo, from what I recall it stated no price increases in the MY 08 3 series pricing.

I wasn't saying the memo, which I've read, wasn't right. Just that I've never heard before of actual next MY cars showing up this early.

I wasn't saying the memo, which I've read, wasn't right. Just that I've never heard before of actual next MY cars showing up this early.

my 2000 Z3 2.3 Roady was built in March of 1999 had an original in-service date of (IIRC) April 18, 1999

it's august, that's pretty common for next-years models to show up.

Learn something every day.

All the 08 models except the 1 series are at the dealership.

Are we sure that the Spring 2008 release of the 1er won't be called a 2009 model?

I think it might actually be a 2009 model but i'm not sure.

I want one now. :(

WOW, if you can get an 09 model in March 08 thats great. Keep the mileage low and get a free year of use. Use it for a year and sell for what you paid. Sweet.

That would be cool

My buddy who is doing Euro Delivery says to expect Euro Invoice for Euro Delivery on the 135i to be about 28k. with a $700 paperwork fee from the dealer. Dont know how accurate that is though.

That's closer to ED price for nicely equipped 128i. I expect ED price for a 135i to be ~$33K

That's closer to ED price for nicely equipped 128i. I expect ED price for a 135i to be ~$33K

I honestly dont know. But we are picking up his 335i at the end of septmeber. He chose ED with the Euro invoice price, fully optioned at a cost of $41k with only a $700 fee from the dealer for doing the paperwork. If he didnt get ED and chose MSRP it would have been $46k

From what he told me there are 4 prices for BMW. There is US MSRP, US Dealer Invoice, Euro MSRP, and Euro Invoice, with him getting the latter of the 4.

I hope the decked out 135i manual will be no more then $36k. But I don't need iDrive/nav. But it would be nice to get everything for $36k.