http://www.techtv.com/news/scitech/story/0,24195,3418192,00.html

Front and rear looking radar story. Heads up courtesy of Tech TV.

Thanks for the heads up!

i dont think the link works

link doesn't work for me either.

anyway, if it's about new chp white cameros, you should beware of those any where in the bay area.

link worked for me. interesting little read.

At the end it directly states that the money they make from the tickets goes right back to them...substantial increase in tickets -> substantial increase in yields wtf is this state coming to

~Matt Segal

You coyote valley commuters better get a V1.

ahhh fvck... it's gilroy pd. guess i better slow down when i go to the outlets now. fvckers.

Hopefully the guy(s) driving it will be the type that leave the radar on a lot and really broadcast their presence to anyone with a detector. Fortunately I don't go south past Morgan Hill much except on 101.

Come to think of it, that's where I got my first motorcycle speeding ticket - on the day after I got my class M license...

Matt, IIRC most of the money collected from traffic violations goes to the county court system and the state, and the state really increased its share of the take a few years back which means that the localities have to give out many more tickets to try to just stay even in that revenue. I expect it to get worse now that the idiots in charge went on a wacky spending spree during the dot-bomb era and we now have the HUGE budget shortfall. In fact they're trying to *triple* the vehicle registration fee or sales tax, I forget which. Either sucks! :mad111:

vehicle registration fee.....yes it sucks. I paid 300 this year and it would have been 820 before the rebate thats currently in place.....

I've seen two of these Camaro CHP cars here. Both have that new low profile light fixture on top. They run around on Monterey Road, Santa Teresa, and 101 between Morgan Hill and Gilroy. I've seen one Crown Victoria with the low profile lights also and a red Impala cop car. Cops rollin in style these days. I'll take pictures next time of all the various cars.

My buddy drives this at work. They are pretty sneeky. I'm not sure if it is equipped with a laser speed detection system. My V1 goes crazy when I'm around it while it is running. They are hard to distinguish from a distance and it is too late once you realize it is johnny law. The sucker will go up to 150+ MPH!!! I know, a ran with my buddy one night out of curiousity. He made me promise to never tell. Oh well, It sticks with the M3 well, but it is a bit sluggish because of all the weight, but it does haul ass. Watch out!

CHONGUS

i see those things alot on 680, also 280. Watch out for them, very sneeky. I also noticed a large increase with cops and radar in the almaden area for anyone who is nearby. mostly around oakridge.

This is old news for people in san jose. I've already gotten pulled over by one of the white camaros locally two years ago when I had my Prelude. I wasn't speeding, I just didn't have a front license plate. The cop took one look at my car and after seeing I was young and Asian, he made me pop my hood. Don't say I'm being racist here because a lot of times when my Caucasian friends get pulled over by him, he just lets them go with a warning. After the cop proceeded to pop my hood and gave me fix it tickets for my legal AEM intake and DC headers which had Carb exempt #s on them. What a bastard! I had to take my car to the smog referee and pay them $30 bucks to tell me what I already knew...that my mods were legal. Be careful of them, especially in the West san jose area.

i thought the article was saying the city of gilroy got one, and not the chp who got some a while back. :dunno

edit: okay, it is gilroy pd. car seems to be more high tech than the chp version, and it doesn't have a light bar on top (light bar on chp version is hard to see tho since it's clear and small).

Still good information since I live not far from Oakridge as mentioned in one post, and work near Santa Teresa and Monterey, as mentioned in another. Lucky me.

In fact, there has been a regular unit out working the area of Santa Teresa and Bailey (where I work) for the last hour or so, saw him giving out tickets twice today.

I hadn't heard about a red Impala. Is that a marked unit?

yeah the chp ones have been around already for a while, dont get em mixed up. This articles just talking about these camaro's that gilroy pd has and even more so is that they can now tell your speed via radar when your coming up from behind them, and since they dont got a lightbar, it's too late to slow down...

Also, santa clara county sherriffs have some camaro's w/o light bars too, i've seen one or two of 'em. those bastards, they have a light in the front and rear deck and you can' t even notice it's a sheriff til your side by side and see their logo... But i think u can still tell through the "e" exempt license plate thingy though

Originally posted by iwannadinanm3
But i think u can still tell through the "e" exempt license plate thingy though


Don't depend on the "E" on the plate to give it away. I see lots of law enforcement cars without indentifying plates, plain wrapper sedans of varying makes/models.

"Lets be careful out there and do it to them before they do it to us."


I almost got snagged twice on Sunday, saved both times by morons who couldn't see the revenue roller pacing me, blew past me and the cop. Thanks morons! Seems lots of black & whites out these days.

santa barbara has those now 2....=(

Originally posted by badmonkey
Don't depend on the "E" on the plate to give it away. I see lots of law enforcement cars without indentifying plates, plain wrapper sedans of varying makes/models.

"Lets be careful out there and do it to them before they do it to us."


I almost got snagged twice on Sunday, saved both times by morons who couldn't see the revenue roller pacing me, blew past me and the cop. Thanks morons! Seems lots of black & whites out these days.

haha was it a marked car pacing u?

Originally posted by iwannadinanm3
haha was it a marked car pacing u?


Yeah a marked car. Black and white, full size light bar, symbol on door. Both times they saw me cruising at a good clip and tried to sneak up on me. I saw them merging from their hiding spots both times, by the time they had a good view I was speed limit. Good cat and mouse stuff :) Both times it was a riced Honda passing me and the CHiP. Both times I gave a friendly "thank you" wave to the morons.

:biglaughb


I'm driving my '01 B3000 this week. It can't break any speed limits.

actually a lot of the new "e" plate vehicles don't have the "e" anymore. instead it says "ca exempt" where it would usually say "california."

anybody ever see back in the late 90's when the santa clara county sheriff had a saturn? now that thing was hard to spot out! i saw it quite a bit for about a year when i commuted from sunnyvale to de anza college. don't know what ever happened to it.

Originally posted by shragon
actually a lot of the new "e" plate vehicles don't have the "e" anymore. instead it says "ca exempt" where it would usually say "california."

anybody ever see back in the late 90's when the santa clara county sheriff had a saturn? now that thing was hard to spot out! i saw it quite a bit for about a year when i commuted from sunnyvale to de anza college. don't know what ever happened to it.

ahh yeah that's right it says ca exempt now. still means the same thing i guess

Originally posted by iwannadinanm3
ahh yeah that's right it says ca exempt now. still means the same thing i guess


Some are completely palin wrap, not even a "ca exempt", nothing. I've seen them in action. You'd never know otherwise... except for the guy driving looks like a plain clothes cop.

Originally posted by badmonkey
Some are completely palin wrap, not even a "ca exempt", nothing. I've seen them in action. You'd never know otherwise... except for the guy driving looks like a plain clothes cop.

ahh alright, i got it

Another heads up for people in the Bay Area. Highway 85 has been the target of CHP airplane speed traps. They had it going on yesterday and have had it going on on and off the last 3 months. Sucks cause you won't see any police till it is too late. They wait off on side streets till the plane tells them who to get. So if you see any planes flying around in weird circles ahead SLOW DOWN!
jc

thanks for the heads up!

my friends dad who is a cop drives around a durango. Their is NO WAY at all to tell its a cop car. He has a radio, siren, lots of stuff in the trunk, and a light mounted right infront of his rear view mirror. He used to have a crown victoria but thats gone now.

Originally posted by JCsilverM3
Another heads up for people in the Bay Area. Highway 85 has been the target of CHP airplane speed traps. They had it going on yesterday and have had it going on on and off the last 3 months. Sucks cause you won't see any police till it is too late. They wait off on side streets till the plane tells them who to get. So if you see any planes flying around in weird circles ahead SLOW DOWN!
jc

haha wow that sux, i go on 85 whenever i go to work, usually cruise around 90 mph, thanks for the heads up tho. but do u know which area on 85? like more towards saratoga, or like more towards almaden area?

The systems range in price from $1,500 to $2,000 per vehicle, but they can quickly pay for themselves since departments that use them see a dramatic increase in the number of tickets they write. The Gilroy Police Department won't say how much of an increase it has seen, but it calls the increase "substantial."


bastards. :mad:

Fortunately my commute on 85 is very short, Almaden Exwy to Cottle, and if they really want to make $$$ they'll have their hands full nabbing the many carpool violations instead of picking on me for doing 80 or so. I also have a "reverse commute" (heading south in the morning) and I carpool with my wife so we're only on the highway for a couple of minutes.

Other than when they were responding to accidents, I've seen the CHP maybe once or twice on my morning commute in something like 4 or 5 years. I do see them more regularly on the way home (northbound.)

Originally posted by ///DavidC
Fortunately my commute on 85 is very short, Almaden Exwy to Cottle, and if they really want to make $$$ they'll have their hands full nabbing the many carpool violations instead of picking on me for doing 80 or so. I also have a "reverse commute" (heading south in the morning) and I carpool with my wife so we're only on the highway for a couple of minutes.

Other than when they were responding to accidents, I've seen the CHP maybe once or twice on my morning commute in something like 4 or 5 years. I do see them more regularly on the way home (northbound.)

yeah i dont see em all that often on 85 every time im on my way to work. I've seen em the opposite direction, usually have someone pulled over both ways too... Other than that, nothing really

Most of the activity seems to be around Saratoga ave or st towards 280. Probably also looking for carpool offenders.
jc

Originally posted by JCsilverM3
Most of the activity seems to be around Saratoga ave or st towards 280. Probably also looking for carpool offenders.
jc

I see, were u an unlucky one to get a ticket by the aircraft btw?

I've see one of these Camaros by Gilroy last weekend. It was on the side of the road giving someone a ticket...so I resumed my 85 and kept on going

Na during the week days I drive my work van in the morning to keep the miles off of the M. That thing would be lucky to hit 55 down a steep mountain. No worries about a ticket there.
jc

:lol: that's good u didn't get a ticket then

Last summer I saw a solid white Z28 (no markings at all and only one small antenna, although I didn't see the plates) with the low profile, white lens, light bar with someone stopped on I 80 north of Vacaville. Scarred the crap out of me.

yep, bastard po's.

Bigtime evil. They're crawling all over the 17 during commute hours. I see a Camaro with the low-pros nearly every morning prowling the s/b traffic at the Summit, where daytrippers are going to get some speed up.

Thanks for the tip on the 85 ... I used to get a little spirited there when I was doing the Palo Alto - Santa Cruz commute three days a week.

There are a few stealth Crown Vics with just the "CA Exempt" around Los Gatos these days, too.

I also see lots on 101 just south of the 85 merge ...

It's because of the State's budget deficit. The gov't is pushing more agencies to rely on their own revenue because Gray davis spent all of the tax payers money. I hate liberals!

CHONGUS

Originally posted by TiAg ///M3/4
Bigtime evil. They're crawling all over the 17 during commute hours. I see a Camaro with the low-pros nearly every morning prowling the s/b traffic at the Summit, where daytrippers are going to get some speed up.

Thanks for the tip on the 85 ... I used to get a little spirited there when I was doing the Palo Alto - Santa Cruz commute three days a week.

There are a few stealth Crown Vics with just the "CA Exempt" around Los Gatos these days, too.

I also see lots on 101 just south of the 85 merge ...


damn in lg? i haven't seen any, i know theres one or two lg ocp cars with the low profile led light bars now though, those bastards

Now now, I work with those LG-MSPD "bastards" so be nice. :cop:

Originally posted by ///DavidC
Now now, I work with those LG-MSPD "bastards" so be nice. :cop:

are u serious??? tell me what u do.

I'm on the DART team. If you're not familiar we assist PD with, let's see, search & rescue, traffic control, crime scene control and evidence searches, some training, first aid at local events, etc. Most of the officers have probably shot me with Simunitions at one time or another too LOL. Fun stuff, lots of stories. Way OT though, so I'll shut up!

Originally posted by ///DavidC
I'm on the DART team. If you're not familiar we assist PD with, let's see, search & rescue, traffic control, crime scene control and evidence searches, some training, first aid at local events, etc. Most of the officers have probably shot me with Simunitions at one time or another too LOL. Fun stuff, lots of stories. Way OT though, so I'll shut up!

what are simunitions? btw are u comin to the meet sunday? share the stories wit me there :biglaughb

Simunition ammunition is basicallly like playing paintball with real guns modofied to fire the cartridge. I have too been shot with one. They hurt to say the least. I have fired several Glock 17FX simunition training pistols. They are identified with the blue polymer frame. Great for training LE and tactical shooting professionals. It simulated what can happen in CQB without getting killed. A more "realistic " form of training. Not available for civilians though.

CHONGUS

Chongus has it right, although the hurt is minimal-to-zero if you're hit in a spot where you have the protective gear (more stories there too hahaha!) And while civilians can't typically purchase Simunitions gear you can still experience it in advanced classes at several shooting schools. [Insert Orange Gunsite family alma mater music here] Very different than just shooting paper targets.

Omied, I'll be at the meet on Sunday so I can tell you about getting shot to pieces in your HS cafeteria several times in training, things like that. Remind me to tell you the flashbang story too. :D Not sure what I'll be wearing but I'll be in my silver E36 M3/4, clear corners, license plate starts with 5AM (new plates so I don't remember the rest off the top of my head.)

And so this isn't totally OT, I heard that San Jose has started using an automated radar/ticket unit regularly in the residential areas that have those new "speed control zone" (or whatever) signs up. One of those streets is about 2 blocks away from me. I can take a picture and post an image of the sign if anyone doesn't know what they look like.

Originally posted by ///DavidC
Chongus has it right, although the hurt is minimal-to-zero if you're hit in a spot where you have the protective gear (more stories there too hahaha!) And while civilians can't typically purchase Simunitions gear you can still experience it in advanced classes at several shooting schools. [Insert Orange Gunsite family alma mater music here] Very different than just shooting paper targets.

Omied, I'll be at the meet on Sunday so I can tell you about getting shot to pieces in your HS cafeteria several times in training, things like that. Remind me to tell you the flashbang story too. :D Not sure what I'll be wearing but I'll be in my silver E36 M3/4, clear corners, license plate starts with 5AM (new plates so I don't remember the rest off the top of my head.)

And so this isn't totally OT, I heard that San Jose has started using an automated radar/ticket unit regularly in the residential areas that have those new "speed control zone" (or whatever) signs up. One of those streets is about 2 blocks away from me. I can take a picture and post an image of the sign if anyone doesn't know what they look like.

whoa our cafeteria? crazy stuff, i'll have to hear about this heheh

My buddy outran one of these Camaro cops in his 300zx twin turbo, on highway 4 about 2 months ago or so, got busted anyway though blew up his engine.

More and more regular police cars are using clear plastic antennas..

"It has the option of working in both a moving and stationary mode," Svardal says. "If someone is coming up behind me at a high rate of speed, I can turn the antenna on and it'll tell me how fast they're approaching me. If someone is coming at me, I can turn the front antenna on and see how fast they're coming at me."

That's right -- he can track your speed if he's behind you, in front of you, and in both directions even if he's moving.

One of the radar antennas fits snuggly atop the dashboard. The other rests inside the rear window. Software algorithms take the cruiser's speed into account so it doesn't interfere with an accurate reading.

Correct me if i'm wrong but doesn't that mean the radar is on full blast all the time? A V1 would pick this sucker up a mile away.

I think you're reading too much into it. I think he can turn the system on, pointing forward or backward, at will. Just because the system has a front/rear directional option doesn't mean that it also has to be ON all the time. That was my take anyway.

jsn117, cops in california are smart, they know most speeder use radar detector, hence they don't always turn on their radar until they spot a car that is faster than the traffic ... your assumption could bring you in trouble