CAR IS SOLD


Guys, I have been trying for quite sometime to sell my car. First for 35K then for 32K. I have had action, but not a sale yet. THIS CAR NEEDS TO GO. I want offers. Make me offers, of course reasonable for the car, and I will definitely consider them. I want this car gone. Here are the details.

http://www.s14.net/forums/showthread.php?t=24936

here they are.


To ask any further questions, call me at 860 601 0214. Thanks, Mike


Also, read through onto the second page of the link, it contains links to the cover photos Hemmings took for the November issue 2006 6and for the 2008 Calendar.

for $32,000 dollars, this thing better be like, car show winner, fully built evo 2.5litr motor or custom super-duper turbocharger set up.

and even then, over 30k for an 80s M3?

can you sell a 1990's M3 for that much? nope.. not even a 1999 for that much, mint!

so if you really want it gone i'd suggest finding the private sale value of the car in kelly blue book and try to sell for within a 1,000 dollars of that price.

otherwise itll sit.. 4evar! & this is not bashing but pure honesty. its damn beautfiul, but .. was it $32k even when it was brand new? lmao..

:lol

lol end of discussion

Wow that guy really has no clue huh. I think realisticly you can get 25-27K for it. It is nice, in fact very nice but there is nothing very special about it i.e if it was a Henna or even a imported EVO it would fetch your money. Good luck with the sale and have you tried Ebay? I have seen pristine examples on there go for some really good money. You either need to find a collector or someone with more money than they know what to do with.

;9842748']for $32,000 dollars, this thing better be like, car show winner, fully built evo 2.5litr motor or custom super-duper turbocharger set up.

and even then, over 30k for an 80s M3?

can you sell a 1990's M3 for that much? nope.. not even a 1999 for that much, mint!

so if you really want it gone i'd suggest finding the private sale value of the car in kelly blue book and try to sell for within a 1,000 dollars of that price.

otherwise itll sit.. 4evar! & this is not bashing but pure honesty. its damn beautfiul, but .. was it $32k even when it was brand new? lmao..


two word for this guy who obviously has no clue and should be banned for stupidity.

FVCKING IDIOT

Henna cars in actuality should bring more due to their limited number, however, they dont due to the fact that many people dont like the orangey color. As far as this car being special. Ask yourself when the last time you saw one of these driving down the road, chances are you have seen a 150K dollar 62 vette more recently. these cars are special, there are said to be less than 2000 left on the road of the original 5000 they brought to america over 4 years 88-91. These cars are RARE, and now with the low low low miles compared to almost all, this car is worth a premium. read on S14.net what the guys say about my car and the history, it will change your mind. I do appreciate the complements, the car is fantastic.

Everytime he makes a for sale thread, people crap on it all the time. (This is probably the 3rd thread or so.)
These comments fill up the thread with nonsense.
If you guys don't have anything good to say about it then don't post.

I would take a well kept E30 M3 an e36 M3 in better condition...
The only downside is the maintainence (from what I've heard)
It may be on the pricey side, but they're very rare and the mileage on this particular car is super low. (I think it has less miles than my brother's E46, and he only uses it on the weekeneds and such.)
When it was brand new, it may have been around that price, but the equivalence would make it more than "$32000" because of inflation.
damn, my dad got a BRAND NEW CIVIC for $1000 back in 83, so that would tell you something about inflation. (New Civics nowadays are what, $18000?)

Good luck on the sale man.

-Randy

I would buy it, but I think I'd rather have a used e46 m3 for the same price...

Thanks, I would love an e46, but to some the e30 is the more desirable car. I have gotten 2 calls today from California from serious buyers, please cross your fingers for me, I want to sell this thing. It is BS that people always shit on my threads, it makes this site worthless to sell on and to many it even puts such a sour taste in their mouths that that leave the site as a whole.

;9842748']for $32,000 dollars, this thing better be like, car show winner, fully built evo 2.5litr motor or custom super-duper turbocharger set up.

and even then, over 30k for an 80s M3?

can you sell a 1990's M3 for that much? nope.. not even a 1999 for that much, mint!

so if you really want it gone i'd suggest finding the private sale value of the car in kelly blue book and try to sell for within a 1,000 dollars of that price.

otherwise itll sit.. 4evar! & this is not bashing but pure honesty. its damn beautfiul, but .. was it $32k even when it was brand new? lmao.. Well you've got to admit, stupidity can be amusing! It looks like a splendid example. If it had black interior I would already have bought it. The tan has a tough time holding up over time (just my experience). I would imagine that the market would support something in the mid to upper 20's. I think if it were at 25 or below, it would be gone pretty quickly. Pretty soft market right now. Good luck. There aren't many good ones left.

Um.. first off, I am not a "f*cking idiot" and I didn't call you any names so why are you calling me names? You're talking about I should be banned, you can really actually get banned for saying things like that to people on the msg boards. I wasn't being mean to you I was just stating an opinion that most people I imagine would share. I know there is a minority group of collectors out there that have entirely too much money on their hands and will pay exuberant amounts of money over the value for a mint car. I guess you are holding out for one of those people. You said you want it gone though, so I gave my advice. No reason to be called an idiot.

There was a red E30 M3 with black interior, mint inside and outside, with less than 100k miles (92k to be exact) at the local BMW specialist mechanic a couple years ago I was looking at to possibly buy. He was selling it for 16k, which was over the kelly blue book value back then, lol. So it certainly is now, and you're asking for twice as much. And this mechanic is known to overprice alot of his BMWs for sale.

And to m2002, if you are implying that i am displaying stupidity and that you find it amusing, ie; that im stupid, you're probably one of those guys that would pay that much, in that small group of 'collectors' I just mentioned. Especially looking @ all the nifty cars you own. Maybe you should buy it from him if I am so stupid..

KBB is not relevant on e30 m3's.

;9855080']Um.. first off, I am not a "f*cking idiot" and I didn't call you any names so why are you calling me names? You're talking about I should be banned, you can really actually get banned for saying things like that to people on the msg boards. I wasn't being mean to you I was just stating an opinion that most people I imagine would share. I know there is a minority group of collectors out there that have entirely too much money on their hands and will pay exuberant amounts of money over the value for a mint car. I guess you are holding out for one of those people. You said you want it gone though, so I gave my advice. No reason to be called an idiot.

There was a red E30 M3 with black interior, mint inside and outside, with less than 100k miles (92k to be exact) at the local BMW specialist mechanic a couple years ago I was looking at to possibly buy. He was selling it for 16k, which was over the kelly blue book value back then, lol. So it certainly is now, and you're asking for twice as much. And this mechanic is known to overprice alot of his BMWs for sale.

And to m2002, if you are implying that i am displaying stupidity and that you find it amusing, ie; that im stupid, you're probably one of those guys that would pay that much, in that small group of 'collectors' I just mentioned. Especially looking @ all the nifty cars you own. Maybe you should buy it from him if I am so stupid..

wow,

you really have no clue.

Now get the f*ck out of the thread and don't come back.

if i really have no clue then fill me in? aw crap looks like im back! your forceful comment didn't deter me... lol

seriously. if i am so stupid and i just "dont get it" , someone fill me in and ill apologize for ever saying a word and be on my way. but dont take turns calling me names and cussing at me just b/c I "dont get it" even though nobody has said crap about "it" .

only thing i heard was jusdrake1 saying the kbb isnt relevant with e30 m3s. thats the first time ive heard that. but if thats the case, what do you go by when pricing them?? how fat your wallet is, or how much you paid for it?

to me it just looked like one of those ads where the seller wants like just a few pennies less than what he paid when it was brand new. i didnt think they were so "uber rare" to have no "standard value". i've certainly had my chance to buy a couple locally in VA in the past few years, and I was never "looking" for them, I just noticed them for sale.

So fill me in without calling me names or cussing at me and ill give you an apology and leave. Not that im gonna stay in the thread ne way, unless yall keep acting like children, then ill stay until a mod sees it all. im sure they could decide whos being stupid and who isnt per the rules of the board. right now you guys are making me not so proud to drive the same brand of vehicle.

Runetang, thank you for successfully 'crapping' this thread. You've been a member here for about 5 years now, yet haven't developed a sense of forum etiquette when respecting another member's sale thread. You're not doing anyone a service here by 'informing' us of what you think a car's value should be. Do you think we're idiots and don't know the value of a car? You speak to us as if we were born yesterday and have no idea what the used car market is like...

Why don't you go here: http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=218441

and read rule #6...better yet, here, let me copy and paste it for you...

Under No Circumstances is anyone to reply to a post suggesting that the item can be found cheaper elsewhere. That is the responsibility of the purchaser to look for the best deal - not for forum members to point out. Members are trying to sell their items in a safe environment without fear of others trying to undercut their sales.

So before you decide to report people next time, maybe you should double check to see if it might be YOU that is breaking the rule....

;9856528']
So fill me in without calling me names or cussing at me and ill give you an apology and leave. Not that im gonna stay in the thread ne way, unless yall keep acting like children, then ill stay until a mod sees it all. im sure they could decide whos being stupid and who isnt per the rules of the board. right now you guys are making me not so proud to drive the same brand of vehicle.

Please leave. I have seen it all. After being here for 5 years, you should understand how to conduct yourself around these forums.

I love the irony of this post of yours and I am sure the other members will too.

'Not so proud to drive the same brand of vehicle'? C'mon, and you're accusing WHO of acting like children? Again, the irony (and the ignorance I might add) of the situation astounds me.


Word of advice. Go apologize to everyone here, especially the seller. Karma is a bitch, don't let it crawl up your ass like you did to the seller.

runetang, here's a bit of information on what makes this car special, and definitely worth his asking price for the right buyer. BTW, my '88 listed for just over $32,000 new in May 1987.

Generally, kbb used car values are not reliable for older, limited-production, non-mainstream cars. There's just no way to reliably price something that isn't a commodity, or at least wasn't when new.

Tuned e30 M3s (e.g., the turbo or Evo mods you mentioned) will command fewer dollars than stock/factory correct cars. Most purists would rather have an unmolested example.

From wikipedia.org:

"Based on the 1986 E30 3-Series, the first M3 was introduced with a 2.3 L S14 engine, derived from the BMW M88 inline-6 block and the valve train and head architecture from BMWs M1 and later M6 inline-6 cylinder. One of the main reasons for production of the road car was to homologate the M3 for Group A Touring Car racing, as an answer to the "2.3-16V"-model of the Mercedes-Benz W201 which was introduced in 1983. A notable characteristic of the E30 M3 is its racing pedigree, campaigned by BMW as well as other racing teams including Prodrive and Schnitzer Motorsport.

The first version produced 195 hp (143 kW) (catalyzed model). Evolution models (not sold in North America) continued with 2.3 liters but adopted revised cam timing, increased compression along with the lack of a catalyst producing approximately 215 hp. Later the Sport Evolution model increased engine displacement to 2.5 L and produced 238 hp (175 kW). 786 cabriolets were also produced, all by hand in BMW's Garching plant, at the time the 215 hp example was the world's fastest four seater convertible.

The E30 M3 differed from the rest of the E30 line-up in many ways. The M3 was equipped with a revised stiffer and more aerodynamic body shell as well as "box flared" fenders to accommodate a wider track with wider and taller wheels and tires. The only body panels the standard model and the M3 shared were the hood and roof. It also had three times the caster angle of any other E30. The M3 shared larger wheel bearings and front brake calipers with the E28 5-Series.

To keep the car competitive in racing following homologation rules, homologation specials were produced. Homologation rules roughly stated that the race version must reflect the street car aerodynamically and in engine displacement; therefore, improved models were periodically released for the public. Special editions and homologation specials include: the Evo 1, Evo 2 and Sport Evolution some of which featured less weight, improved aerodynamics, taller front fender arches (Sport Evolution; to further facilitate 18 inch wheels in DTM), brake ducting, and more power.

Production of the original E30 M3 ended in 1991.

Having won more road races than any other model in history, the E30 M3 is considered by many to be the world's most successful road race car. Its wins include the Deutsche Tourenwagen Meisterschaft, European Touring Car Championship and even the one-off World Touring Car Championship title in 1987. The E30 M3 is also a multiple winner of Guia Race, 24 Hours Nürburgring and Spa 24 Hours.

In 2004, Sports Car International named this car number six on the list of Top Sports Cars of the 1980s."

Thanks to all for backing me on this one, it is nice to have some people appreciate the car I am selling and not bash it. For those who care, I recieved 2 offers yesterday, and another this morning, so the car is actually becoming a hot topic around the 30K mark. I have no doubt it will selll within the next few days. Thanks for the support

Dude, if I had the money I would definately buy this from you. The E30 M3 is IMO the best and truest M3 out there and in the condition yours is in you'll sell in no time. Good luck!!

Stunning machine.

come on guys lets be respectful..hes a forum member too..all we gotta do is lead him towards the right direction..that price is way off..and 100% sure you wont get that kind of money...like someone said here..check your bluebook to see how much its worth and then go from there..for that price I can buy 3 e36 m3's which have more HP than that and in clean condition...or e46...in anycase good luck with the sale...:)

Being this side of the pond, we have "special" E30 M3's, even the best of the best EVO lll's go for £15k tops, what is this E30 M3??

You guys should pick up a copy of this months BIMMER and they will explain to you that E36 and E46 M3's are dime a dozen. E30 M3 is special, rare and they aren't making any more! If you going to crap on someones thread at least know WTF you are talking about.

Being this side of the pond, we have "special" E30 M3's, even the best of the best EVO lll's go for £15k tops, what is this E30 M3??

£15k = $30k

:bash

Damn...I hope one of those two people who offered will buy it...
I think this is the 8th thread he made, reposted because people keep crapping on it.
I honestly hope it sells.

-Randy

£15k = $30k

:bash

Yes for a super rare "special" model, 1 of 50 sort of car!!! Hence me asking what his E30 M3 is?? I believe it to be a normal model,,,,, no?

I really does hope he sells it so we don't have n00bs coming on here saying it's not worth xxx. The seller can ask whatever amount they want, and this will reflect how slow or fast the vehicle sells, and in this case, it's been for sale for a while. anyways, GL, beautiful example.

I really does hope he sells it so we don't have n00bs coming on here saying it's not worth xxx. .

aimed @ me?

This car is hard enough to find here as it is.
Especiall with those miles on it.
It's the regular one, I dont think they offered the other ones here.

'Not so proud to drive the same brand of vehicle'? C'mon, and you're accusing WHO of acting like children? Again, the irony (and the ignorance I might add) of the situation astounds me.


Truth and fact of the matter is thus: I was called an f---ing idiot, just for giving my opinion and advice. Anyone who sees my first reply to this will see that I start off being slightly rude but by the end of the post Im even complimenting the mans car, saying "damn beautiful car". And in reply I get "fucking idiot" . Yet im displaying stupidity? Right. You are displaying it for not seeing the true stupidity there, if anyone is. IMO nobody is displaying stupidity besides you and possibly myself though. Rudeness and stupidity are different.


Word of advice. Go apologize to everyone here, especially the seller. Karma is a bitch, don't let it crawl up your ass like you did to the seller.

Why should I apologize for giving my opinion and advice, then giving him a compliment on his car, only to be personally insulted? Uhh yeah. I'm sorry that you called me names for giving you advice and a compliment. better? give me a break. I'll never apologize for BEING insulted. I do apologize for ever saying a word, I shouldve let this post stay on page 7 or wherever the hell I revived from, clearly on its way to nowhere land, bumping it up and giving the man all this extra exposure. I shouldnt have, because all I got for that was insults and even more rudeness from even you, a moderator. The OP took an official crap on this thread when he went out of line with his comments just because of what I said which was not, at that time, anything bad.


runetang, here's a bit of information on what makes this car special, and definitely worth his asking price for the right buyer. BTW, my '88 listed for just over $32,000 new in May 1987.

Thank you for showing me this 88M3inVA. Instead of being an insulting prick like everyone else, including the mod, you actually posted some kind of information that might shed some light on why it's normal to sell them them for the sticker price they had when new. Seriously, you were mature and gave me a mature reply and you were the only one to do that so thank you very much for rising above the pettyness of the rest. ( I still dont think it's worth the sticker price it had when brand new but .. thats just my opinion. )

Thanks to all for backing me on this one, it is nice to have some people appreciate the car I am selling and not bash it. For those who care, I recieved 2 offers yesterday, and another this morning, so the car is actually becoming a hot topic around the 30K mark.

I never bashed your car kiddo, I complimented it. Look back into page 1 and see where I complimented it. Never once did I say one word bad about the thing. It's great, really, it is. Nobody bashed it. Only bashing that has happened was you and others bashing me, but they were smart enough not to directly attack me over it. I just dont get it with you people. You people create the situation by blow my words out of proportion, not to mention outright adding things that I supposedly did when I did the contrary and its just ridiculous.

As to those recent offers you got, I bet if I didn't raise your thread from the dead with my frank comments then my COMPLIMENT, you may not have even got those because they may not have even seen it. Who truely knows. So just think about that before talking more sh*t to me.


come on guys lets be respectful..hes a forum member too..all we gotta do is lead him towards the right direction..that price is way off..and 100% sure you wont get that kind of money...like someone said here..check your bluebook to see how much its worth and then go from there..for that price I can buy 3 e36 m3's which have more HP than that and in clean condition...or e46...in anycase good luck with the sale..


m3maker, dont agree with me about it being overprice or they'll start talking mad sh*t to you for giving your 2 cents next. It's not safe to speak the truth anymore these days even the mods will start crap w/you. But you know, even though youre 100% agreeing with me here, the ppl in the thread are all mad at me for saying exactly what you just said. Its true though.


Damn...I hope one of those two people who offered will buy it...
I think this is the 8th thread he made, reposted because people keep crapping on it.
I honestly hope it sells.


Oh this has happened repeatedly before? lol. I never seen one before. I guess there must be a reason for this! Lightbulb in anyones head yet? If you ask me if people were polite, theyd accept a bump even if it was blunt criticism because it was HONEST INTENT NOT HATEFUL OR MEAN. Sounds like the OP has the prob if this happens to all his threads. But i never read them so I dont know the truth about that, or really care TBH.


I really does hope he sells it so we don't have n00bs coming on here saying it's not worth xxx. The seller can ask whatever amount they want, and this will reflect how slow or fast the vehicle sells, and in this case, it's been for sale for a while. anyways, GL, beautiful example.


ive been here for 5 years im not a n00b and I, like many other posters, know this car is not worth the same amount it was worth when it was brand new on the lot for the first time, $32,000. that is our opinion but since we ARENT NOOBS, we know this to be true. think what you want though. i think the best thing going for the seller is peope like me reviving his threads from the dead giving them more exposure. if it wasnt for me, he probably wouldve needed to make a new thread by now. This thing was at least page 8 when I first replied.

I regret that. Theres a reason this thing was headed for its grave, and those of us who know the truth know why. I wont be making the mistake to help the OP by reviving one again. And im not apologzing to anyone who didn't receive one already, which was the only guy who disagreed and didn't act completely stupid about it.

Man,

you aren't too bright. 32k in 1987 is not the same as 32k in 2007. Daaaaarrr....

ban?

Runetang, since you respect my opinion...

When you're already in a hole, stop digging.

32k in 1987 is not the same as 32k in 2007


I mentioned that earlier too...with an example!
"$32,000.00 in 1987 had about the same buying power as $57,064.75 in 2006."
According to http://www.dollartimes.com/calculators/inflation.htm
do it yourself, then you can see that $32k back in 87 has the same value as today's $57k...
$57k is around the same price as the E46 M3 when it was new...

Inversely,
"$32,000.00 in 2006 had about the same buying power as $17,944.53 in 1987."
so he isn't really getting all his money back if that's what you keep thinking.
These figures are just an estimation, but you guys get the point.

-Randy

come on guys lets be respectful..hes a forum member too..all we gotta do is lead him towards the right direction..that price is way off..and 100% sure you wont get that kind of money...like someone said here..check your bluebook to see how much its worth and then go from there..for that price I can buy 3 e36 m3's which have more HP than that and in clean condition...or e46...in anycase good luck with the sale...:)

Again, someone who just doesnt get it. READ BUDDY READ

And btw. CAR IS SOLD

Congrats!! How much did you get for it if you don't mind me asking?

Finally!!
Congrats on the sale man, I know you've had that car listed FOREVER...

-Randy

for these kind of cars you just have to wait for the right buyer. same wiht my E34, no real bites yet, high price.

however, runetang, the person that really wants that car, has no choice but to pay such a high price. its supply and demand and has nothing to do with bluebook. i am one of those people that would pay a high price for a special car, even though its "just" an old M3. old 911's are "just" old porsches to me and I wouldn't pay for them, but thats because everybody has different tastes and wants.

even though its "just" an old M3. old 911's are "just" old porsches to me and I wouldn't pay for them, but thats because everybody has different tastes and wants.

true that

;9862006']Why should I apologize for giving my opinion and advice, then giving him a compliment on his car, only to be personally insulted? Uhh yeah. I'm sorry that you called me names for giving you advice and a compliment. better? give me a break. I'll never apologize for BEING insulted. I do apologize for ever saying a word, I shouldve let this post stay on page 7 or wherever the hell I revived from, clearly on its way to nowhere land, bumping it up and giving the man all this extra exposure. I shouldnt have, because all I got for that was insults and even more rudeness from even you, a moderator. The OP took an official crap on this thread when he went out of line with his comments just because of what I said which was not, at that time, anything bad.


Maybe you should apologize to everyone for wasting their time with such a long post. *I am kidding*

You got insulted because you instigated it first by breaking the rules of the forum. What part of that don't you understand? When it says:
Under No Circumstances is anyone to reply to a post suggesting that the item can be found cheaper elsewhere. That is the responsibility of the purchaser to look for the best deal - not for forum members to point out. Members are trying to sell their items in a safe environment without fear of others trying to undercut their sales.
...and you do exactly that, it's going to ruffle the feathers of the OP. Do you think that he was just going to sit there and say 'okay, I'll adjust it because you said so'

Also, if you think I was 'rude' to you...good, it could have been worse. You wouldn't like it if someone came into any of your threads to do what you've done. That is why we have certain rules in place...because situations like this come up and it becomes a hassle to everyone involved. One side takes it as being innocent while the other takes it personally. People really should read the rules more so this crap doesn't happen. I do apologize it has come to this though, but the car has been sold. So let's bury this thread and move on.

Let's cool down, shake hands, and play nice everyone.