So after hanging out with some friends for a couple hours i decide its time to head home (approx. 12am). As Im heading down 10th street and turn right on Monroe, I see the dreaded blue and reds in my rearview. So i pull over on Virginia Ave. and wait til the cop approaches. He walks up to my window and informs me that he lasered me at 50 mph in a 30. Before i have time to despute this, he procedes to tell me that he smells alcohol on my breath( i hadnt been drinking). Which i firmly deny. So he tells me to get out of the car. I comply and he makes me blow into what he called a preliminary detector. Suprisingly(to him at least), i pass the test. All he says to this is "well i still smell it on your clothes then". He then procedes to tell me to get back in my car and he walks to his car. He writes me a ticket for 50 in a 30 and when i question him about where exactly he "lasered" me from, he gets defensive and says "if you want to know that, go to court". The most BS part of this entire story is that 10th had traffic on it, and there was no way i was going above 30 (i diddnt believe i was going faster than 20). Long story short, does anyone know what i should do about this? It was city of atlanta PD, and ive gotten tickets but have always gotten them dismissed, but that was dekalb county...not City of Atlanta. Should i fight it? I think i should, but maybe someone in this forum will know more about CoAPD. It doesnt suprise me that some dirty cop was fishing for DUIs, but why did he have to pick me. My last car was a silver g35 coupe and i never attracted any attention, is this random or do cops target black BMWs?

or do cops target black BMWs?

Yes they do. Had a cop pull me over RIGHT after he pulled over an all blacked out Suburban. He had him pulled over in a gas station lot, then as he was done with him he saw me and immideatly flipped a bitch and went after me. He followed me for a good while till he turned on the lights n sirens, pulled me over for my blinker not being "amber enough". Needless to say he let me off with a "warning" which is just a coverup story for him fishing for something worse.

I cannot offer you much advice for your area but if the cop says he lasered you at 50mph that means he should be able to prove it in court. If he cannot, then you might be able to turn this in your favor.

My last car was a silver g35 coupe and i never attracted any attention, is this random or do cops target black BMWs?

I won't speak to the rest right now, but this did catch my attention due to my own experiences. I've owned three E34 535's over the past ten years: a white one from '97 to '00, a black one from '00 to '03, and a silver one from '03 to present. Mods have basically been identical on all three cars, and my driving habits remained constant. At one point or another during the ownership of all three cars, I had the appearance of some long-haired punk, and at other times I appeared as respectable as it is possible for me to appear. Basically, the only thing that changed was the color of the car. The results? I was never pulled over in the white car, I've been pulled over one time in the silver car, and I was pulled over five times in the black car. Only one ticket was issued as a result of all of these police-citizen interactions, but I still found it interesting that the black car drew more attention than the others. I can only imagine that I'd be in jail somewhere right now if I had owned a red car.

This highly unscientific and purely anecdotal study has been brought to you by your friendly neighborhood delgadoduvidoso.

Well ive checked into the matter some....in georgia you cant use a speed detection device within the first 300 feet of a school zone...(i got pulled over right by Grady HS and the Children's School) and you cant use speed control devices on a grade of 7% or higher. 10th street is downhill on that section but i dont know the grade or anyway to find out. Well ill drive by there tonight to see if i can get some evidence. Im really getting tired of the Police right now- My housekeeper's son just got convicted of murder when all of the witnesses admitted they could not Id the man who did it. As much as i love Atlanta, the Police are terrible and jerks (thats not to say I havent met the occasional really nice one).

I won't speak to the rest right now, but this did catch my attention due to my own experiences. I've owned three E34 535's over the past ten years: a white one from '97 to '00, a black one from '00 to '03, and a silver one from '03 to present. Mods have basically been identical on all three cars, and my driving habits remained constant. At one point or another during the ownership of all three cars, I had the appearance of some long-haired punk, and at other times I appeared as respectable as it is possible for me to appear. Basically, the only thing that changed was the color of the car. The results? I was never pulled over in the white car, I've been pulled over one time in the silver car, and I was pulled over five times in the black car. Only one ticket was issued as a result of all of these police-citizen interactions, but I still found it interesting that the black car drew more attention than the others. I can only imagine that I'd be in jail somewhere right now if I had owned a red car.

This highly unscientific and purely anecdotal study has been brought to you by your friendly neighborhood delgadoduvidoso.

I don't know that I would say that you have ever looked respectable.

Well ive checked into the matter some....in georgia you cant use a speed detection device within the first 300 feet of a school zone...(i got pulled over right by Grady HS and the Children's School) and you cant use speed control devices on a grade of 7% or higher. 10th street is downhill on that section but i dont know the grade or anyway to find out. Well ill drive by there tonight to see if i can get some evidence. Im really getting tired of the Police right now- My housekeeper's son just got convicted of murder when all of the witnesses admitted they could not Id the man who did it. As much as i love Atlanta, the Police are terrible and jerks (thats not to say I havent met the occasional really nice one).
I can guarantee that 10th street isn't a 7% grade. Mountain passes are lucky to hit 6%, so yeah...

uh... just be glad you didn't have a dead body in the trunk. :rolleyes

uh... just be glad you didn't have a dead body in the trunk.

Thats not really something i have to worry about...do you?

Thats not really something i have to worry about...do you?
:shifty



:shifty


:help

Well i guess the 5-series' larger trunk does have its uses

Well i guess the 5-series' larger trunk does have its uses
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yup :D

Calling M3Bill.....

He should be able to help.

Calling M3Bill.....

He should be able to help.

Nope. Not my area of law.

:shifty

do cops target black BMWs?

Cops target black people in BMW's.

Every person who gets a speeding ticket in the GA regionals (including me) asks m3bill for legal advice. I think we really need a traffic lawyer on these boards.

Cops target black people in BMW's.

I'm a black guy driving a black, 15% tinted BMW... :help

Yeah, but im a young white guy driving a completely stock 325, no tint - fishbowling. The cop was black also, but it was dark so i doubt if he could tell if I was white or black.

Every person who gets a speeding ticket in the GA regionals (including me) asks m3bill for legal advice. I think we really need a traffic lawyer on these boards.

For certain cases, I send folks on here to a couple of awesome traffic attorneys. But I have to pick and choose very carefully. Bad referrals can do a lot of damage in my line of work...

Yeah, but im a young white guy driving a completely stock 325, no tint - fishbowling. The cop was black also, but it was dark so i doubt if he could tell if I was white or black.

Hmmmmm, a young white guy driving a BMW in Midtown around Midnight. Maybe the cop thought you were gay and trolling for teh cock.

:dunno

Hmmmmm, a young white guy driving a BMW in Midtown around Midnight. Maybe the cop thought you were gay and trolling for teh cock.

:dunno

Those people drive white BMW's.

I don't know how it is in Atlanta, put up here in Pennsylvania they use a point system. Collect enough points from tickets and your license goes away for a little while. You always take a hearing because you have nothing to lose. DON'T expect to get the ticket dropped, rather try for a compromise. I always try to get the points eliminated but pay the fine. By dropping the points you lower your risk of losing your license and you also lower the risk of your auto insurance from increasing. Again, all this appiles to PA, not sure about GA ticketing system.

Jer

Those people drive white BMW's.

Hmmm so...

Black BMW = More likely to be a criminal

White BMW = More likely to be "teh ghey"

Bronze BMW = More likely to be old

Red BMW = ?

Blue BMW = ?

Silver BMW = ?

Yellow BMW = ?

Those people drive white BMW's.

:rofl:

The uber ghey ones drive 2 white BMWs.

Those people drive white BMW's.
:confused

:confused

Don't worry your car is an albino. It thinks it is black.






Hope that makes you feel better.

Don't worry your car is an albino. It thinks it is black.






Hope that makes you feel better.

:rofl:

You can tell by just looking at the wheels.

Don't worry your car is an albino. It thinks it is black.






Hope that makes you feel better.
No.. Now I am like some religous nutcase chasing after Tom Hanks. :D

No.. Now I am like some religous nutcase chasing after Tom Hanks. :D

Glass half full version: You are a really cool guitar player that never got the recognition that you truly deserved. (showing my age here. Wonder if anyone will get it)

Blue BMW = Greatest people on the planet

Fixed.

Fixed.


And Calypso says what?

And Calypso says what?

Fastest car ever.

:shifty

Fixed.
Excellent.

Fixed.

Blue BMW = Shifty greedy evil lawyers who are the most vile creatures on the planet

Doubly fixed :D

Blue BMW = Shifty greedy evil lawyers who are the most vile creatures on the planet

Doubly fixed :D

That hurts. Deeply.

That hurts. Deeply.

Yeah ok Bill, whatever you say. We all know you have to have a soul and a conscious to be offended or hurt.

;)

Yeah ok Bill, whatever you say. We all know you have to have a soul and a conscious to be offended or hurt.

;)


Beat me to it.

Beat me to it.

:thumbup:

Anyway lunch time is over, back to jury duty!

Glass half full version: You are a really cool guitar player that never got the recognition that you truly deserved. (showing my age here. Wonder if anyone will get it)
Johnny Winter?

Johnny Winter?

Very good....:buttrock:buttrock

Yeah ok Bill, whatever you say. We all know you have to have a soul and a conscious to be offended or hurt.

;)

Good point. I have neither. Makes life much more enjoyable.

I've got a black E34 and have never been stopped in it. My old Nissan on the other hand... I was stopped 5 times. There have been times I should have been pulled over too in the BMW.

Go to court... The cop probably won't show, thus, the judge will throw it out. This happened with my daughter's last ticket.

I was never stopped in my black '88 M5, black '90 M3, black 90 325i, '98 black 318ti sport or my current black x5. My black '84 745i, on the other hand, got stopped all the time. Gangster tint and lowered black 745i rolling through Roswell seemed to give the local constables the fits. I got stopped for having an obscured tag sticker on the license plate. He actually wrote the ticket and I had to go to court over that. The judge threw it out. What a joke.

In georgia, the cop is required to tell you where laser'd you, show a printout, show the gun is certified to use in georgia, a show his certification for use of the laser (if asked for). Since he wouldnt tell me where he lasered me and shut me down when i asked if he could use it while moving by saying "ask in court". I should be able to get it dismissed. But, who knows what the judge will do, so i am trying to DECIDE whether to trust that justice will be done, or hire a lawyer and spend money to better my chances of justice getting done.

My black '84 745i, on the other hand, got stopped all the time.

In your defense, I was a passenger during one of those stops, so that one probably shouldn't count towards the total.

In georgia, the cop is required to tell you where laser'd you, show a printout, show the gun is certified to use in georgia, a show his certification for use of the laser (if asked for). Since he wouldnt tell me where he lasered me and shut me down when i asked if he could use it while moving by saying "ask in court". I should be able to get it dismissed. But, who knows what the judge will do, so i am trying to DECIDE whether to trust that justice will be done, or hire a lawyer and spend money to better my chances of justice getting done.
Now I'm not saying that this would happen, but hypothetically if you say tell your story and the officer comes to court, and he denied it, the court will believe the officer, and you'll lose.

Just sayin. The system sometimes sucks.

In your defense, I was a passenger during one of those stops, so that one probably shouldn't count towards the total.

And McCoy, if I recall correctly. The face on that officer was quite amusing. I know he wished he could have gotten a laser on us. Good thing Mike got the G-tech disconnected. Police officer "I don't know how fast you were going but I know you were speeding." Yeah, so, can we go now?

In georgia, the cop is required to tell you where laser'd you, show a printout, show the gun is certified to use in georgia, a show his certification for use of the laser (if asked for). Since he wouldnt tell me where he lasered me and shut me down when i asked if he could use it while moving by saying "ask in court". I should be able to get it dismissed.

I'm not sure who you heard this from, but it is another old wive's tale. He has to provide all of that documentation at the hearing, but he doesn't have to show it to you on the side of the road. I don't know why people think that...

:dunno


You can read about other speeding ticket myths here: http://www.trafficticketsecrets.com/speeding-ticket-myths.html

I'm not sure who you heard this from, but it is another wive's tale. He has to provide all of that documentation at the hearing, but he doesn't have to show it to you on the side of the road. I don't know why people think that...

:dunno


You can read about other speeding ticket myths here: http://www.trafficticketsecrets.com/speeding-ticket-myths.html

Because they read it on the internet.

Because they read it on the internet.

Such an interesting mix of sarcasm and irony in your post...

:rofl

Such an interesting mix of sarcasm and irony in your post...

:rofl

I know, ain't it great.


da troof dog, I saw it onda internets.

Yeah, i guess i spend too much time on car forums. That myth is on most of them. Sorry for my ignorance.

Yeah, i guess i spend too much time on car forums. That myth is on most of them. Sorry for my ignorance.

One down, 126,762 to go. :buttrock

You can read about other speeding ticket myths here: http://www.trafficticketsecrets.com/speeding-ticket-myths.html

Well, I guess it's time to take the aluminum foil off my wheels and stop honking my horn whenever I pass an officer. And I guess I can take the chains of my car as well. But I'm keeping my Int'l Drivers' Permit.

What's the world coming to when you can't trust the information you get from the internet?

So is it or is it not permissable for an officer to pull me over for not wearing my seatbelt and no other infraction?

I ask because I've been pulled over and let go when the officer sees my Schroth draped over the back of my seat.

You have my permission...

I think you can be pulled over for not wearing a seatbelt w/o another infraction involved.

...the officer sees my Schroth draped over the back of my seat.

As seen in porn...

So is it or is it not permissable for an officer to pull me over for not wearing my seatbelt and no other infraction?

I ask because I've been pulled over and let go when the officer sees my Schroth draped over the back of my seat.

In depends on the state. In Georgia, not wearing your seat belt is a primary violation, which means there doesn't have to be any other violation for you to get pulled over. In other states, it is a secondary violation.

Those aren't the legal terms, but they are better terms to use to describe the situation.

Hmmmmm, a young white guy driving a BMW in Midtown around Midnight. Maybe the cop thought you were gay and trolling for teh cock.

:dunno

he was on monroe......

well after going to traffic court @ city of atlanta over 20 times since summer of 99 when i moved here, i can tell you go, plead not guilty, keep going,
ive only had to pay 1 ticket in city of atl. everytime ive gone ive plead not guilty, kept going, brought up every technicality i could find, and esp for speeding where you were, bring a map showing where the officer said you were, note traffic conditions and how it would be impossible to obtain that speed, etc, seriously waste their time enough and the judges always realize its not worth the 200$. ive even requested a trial by jury for an 88 in 55 on 75/85 beside tech, solicitor deaddocketed it as most of my charges have been. srsly = waste their time as much as possible. and every atl judge ive had will drop it if the officer doesnt show up, only probs ive had are twice the officer didnt show up then they rescheduled it but the rescheduled date the officer didnt show up, another time he was in the building but not in the courtroom so the judge let me and 3 other people off, he walks in as we walk out and wasnt happy but im not complaining.

In GA, he can.

well after going to traffic court @ city of atlanta over 20 times since summer of 99 when i moved here, i can tell you go, plead not guilty, keep going,
ive only had to pay 1 ticket in city of atl. everytime ive gone ive plead not guilty, kept going, brought up every technicality i could find, and esp for speeding where you were, bring a map showing where the officer said you were, note traffic conditions and how it would be impossible to obtain that speed, etc, seriously waste their time enough and the judges always realize its not worth the 200$. ive even requested a trial by jury for an 88 in 55 on 75/85 beside tech, solicitor deaddocketed it as most of my charges have been. srsly = waste their time as much as possible. and every atl judge ive had will drop it if the officer doesnt show up, only probs ive had are twice the officer didnt show up then they rescheduled it but the rescheduled date the officer didnt show up, another time he was in the building but not in the courtroom so the judge let me and 3 other people off, he walks in as we walk out and wasnt happy but im not complaining.

That hurt my head to read...good god man, learn how to write.

That hurt my head to read...good god man, learn how to write.
Sort of an e. e. cummings meets Tom Clancy.

Beat me to it.

This comment from a car salesman?

This comment from a car salesman?

:lol :lol :lol

Cops target black people in Mercedes'.

Fixed

Just kidding I have only had one run in with the law in GA. That was after being in the state for all of 4 hours. But other than a huge fine and community service I am not bitter. Now come to my parents neighborhood and area in NC. A black man in a BMW or MB will get pulled over at least twice a week. TRUST ME I KNOW FIRST HAND. Sometimes they are nice enough to follow/escort you home to make sure you got home safely/YOU ACTUALLY LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

Please tell me you asked for a radar/laser accuracy check (which you should always do anyway). And if you didn't, did he happen to ask you if you wanted an accuracy check? Some jurisdictions are required to ask you if you'd like an accuracy check. But it pretty much sounds to me like he pulled 50 in a 30 out of his ass. I would try and fight it.

The original post bring back memories. In the early 90's coming home from the Stien Club I got pulled over On 10th right in front of grady HS for 55 in ??(don't remember) Cop ask's If I have been drinking ( I'm straight edge so I had't been drinking) Gets me out of the car starts with the test's. Walk this line , touch your nose, ABC's frontwards then ask's me to do my ABC's backwards to wich I replied " FUDGE man Just give me the Breath a liser, I am tired and wanna go home" I still got the ticket for speeding.

As Im heading down 10th street and turn right on Monroe, I see the dreaded blue and reds in my rearview.

he was on monroe......

He was on 10th St first and then turned onto Monroe. The cop said he was speeding on 10th. Good god man, RIF!!!!

Oh, thanks for the B&T & Cigars!!! :buttrock:buttrock

Oh, thanks for the B&T & Cigars!!! :buttrock:buttrock

no prob man! sorry i couldnt get ya a couple of cases
i was in absolute shock as i hit columbia and stopped at every exit trying to find you and i some black and tan , wtf, why would a state close liquor stores at 7pm?
that blows my mind

What was the officer's name or car number?

I am good friends with the APD supervisor for the midtown area, which is where you were pulled over.

I'll give him a call tomorrow if you can identify the officer.

This comment from a car salesman?

Birds of feather and all that mess.

By the way, I have a really nice 318ti for sale. Just saying.

In VA, they tend to pull you over for seatbelts, tinting, bumper height (on 4x4's), going more than 5mph above the speed limit and then conduct a "safety inspection" to see what else they can nail you on. Also, if you're crazy enough to run a detector up there (illegal + big fine), it had better be off and behind the driver's seat.

I haven't heard of that around here with the exception of Halston when the tow guy jumped in his M3 and hauled azz to the impound lot.

Sorry assifer, I thud the light was orange...

no prob man! sorry i couldnt get ya a couple of cases
i was in absolute shock as i hit columbia and stopped at every exit trying to find you and i some black and tan , wtf, why would a state close liquor stores at 7pm?
that blows my mind

Joe, any B&T is better than no B&T!!!!

What was the officer's name or car number?

I am good friends with the APD supervisor for the midtown area, which is where you were pulled over.

I'll give him a call tomorrow if you can identify the officer.

Hmmmmmm how did someone your age become "good" friends with an APD Supervisor, and in Midtown of all places?

Joe, any B&T is better than no B&T!!!!



Hmmmmmm how did someone your age become "good" friends with an APD Supervisor, and in Midtown of all places?



he did "favors"

Im at work and dont have the ticket with me, but ill post the officers' name when i get home. BTW, this has been a terrible fu--ing week. This morning as i was driving to take my car to Auto europe to fix the PS pump, I took a left on Piedmont Circle instead of coming from monroe like i normally do. Well this lifted jeep blocked my view of the no left turn from 7-9 and 4-6 sign. And I made a left. This is my fault because I always drive there and i seen the sign before, but it was early and i wasnt thinking. Well as soon as i turn i see these moto cops in the parking lot next to auto europe and i get a ticket for illegal left turn. They got me and like 3 others while i was there. This was my fault, but i hate how ATL PD would just sit in a parking lot and give out tickets instead of busting crack dealers. I pay their salary with my tax dollars and i cant stand it when they do stuff like that. Jack told me at AE that they are there every morning. Wow, thats what i want all my policeman doing.

Im at work and dont have the ticket with me, but ill post the officers' name when i get home. BTW, this has been a terrible fu--ing week. This morning as i was driving to take my car to Auto europe to fix the PS pump, I took a left on Piedmont Circle instead of coming from monroe like i normally do. Well this lifted jeep blocked my view of the no left turn from 7-9 and 4-6 sign. And I made a left. This is my fault because I always drive there and i seen the sign before, but it was early and i wasnt thinking. Well as soon as i turn i see these moto cops in the parking lot next to auto europe and i get a ticket for illegal left turn. They got me and like 3 others while i was there. This was my fault, but i hate how ATL PD would just sit in a parking lot and give out tickets instead of busting crack dealers. I pay their salary with my tax dollars and i cant stand it when they do stuff like that. Jack told me at AE that they are there every morning. Wow, thats what i want all my policeman doing.

Well now you pay their salaries with your fines.

The officer's name is S. Gilmore

Those people drive white BMW's.

:lol

:rofl:

The uber ghey ones drive 2 white BMWs.

:rofl:Damnit I should start reading the whole post first, lol.