View Full Version : HELLP, won 2, lost 2, then embarassed myself


318ibmw
05-19-2007, 03:16 AM
k i neeeed answers so off topic but im so ashamed, i got a 325is 1995 auto JC chip, short ram intake, m3 exhaust,,,,went to race city tonite best run 17.1.....seems normal i think, i was racing a 2003 325ci, first 2 races i won then i tought him how to drive stick and rev to 4000 at launch, he was going to 2000, then next 2 races he just beat me anyways so then we go to street races, and i race a stock basic rsx 160hp and lose, is this just cuz my engine was bagged all night or what?? seemed like my vanos was dead after race city!!

Juwanski
05-19-2007, 02:16 PM
k i neeeed answers so off topic but im so ashamed, i got a 325is 1995 auto JC chip, short ram intake, m3 exhaust,,,,went to race city tonite best run 17.1.....seems normal i think, i was racing a 2003 325ci, first 2 races i won then i tought him how to drive stick and rev to 4000 at launch, he was going to 2000, then next 2 races he just beat me anyways so then we go to street races, and i race a stock basic rsx 160hp and lose, is this just cuz my engine was bagged all night or what?? seemed like my vanos was dead after race city!!
i'm pretty sure rsx's do the 1/4 faster then 17 secs, remember your 325 has what 180 hp? vs 160 where he is alot lighter then u, plus he was prolly stick instead of auto like u

318ibmw
05-19-2007, 02:18 PM
he was basically stock at 160hp....anyways i got home and my vaccum line from intake came undone, i dunno if that would have anything to do with it and yea im 180 with chip intake and exahaust i clearly shoulda taken him

M Roady
05-19-2007, 02:24 PM
You lost to the RSX because your car is slower than the RSX. ;)

DU09
05-19-2007, 02:55 PM
17.1? oh my god that is a slow time...... is that a horrible track or something? and you should have no problem with a base rsx i toast them.

318ibmw
05-19-2007, 07:32 PM
DU09, are u auto or stick??? i called a rerun with him, and yea i know 17.1 is terrible, the 325ic 2003 best run was 16.2 so i dunno highest mph reither of us hit was 83....i dunno its weird

Lee101315
05-19-2007, 07:37 PM
damn this is like the special olympics

ohnoes
05-19-2007, 07:40 PM
Is this a joke? An E30 or E36 325iS should walk a base RSX. The RSX-S, on the other hand, is a different story. More HP than either the E30 or E36, and lighter than the latter. The RSX-S would walk both.

NYY42
05-19-2007, 07:52 PM
Is this a joke? An E30 or E36 325iS should walk a base RSX. The RSX-S, on the other hand, is a different story. More HP than either the E30 or E36, and lighter than the latter. The RSX-S would walk both.

I won't jump into this convo too much but I'll leave it at my 325is walks on a type-s:D The base rsx is a slow piece of shit lol.

ohnoes
05-19-2007, 07:52 PM
I won't jump into this convo too much but I'll leave it at my 325is walks on a type-s:D The base rsx is a slow piece of shit lol.

Well, your 325iS isn't stock. :)

NYY42
05-19-2007, 07:54 PM
Well, your 325iS isn't stock. :)

sure it is:devillook

Schneller Bayer
05-19-2007, 08:03 PM
I can picture you crying when you type:rofl
a 325 should do much better than a 17.

318ibmw
05-19-2007, 08:05 PM
well fu** im puttin my OEM chip back in next week and getting my time... i see on dragtimes.com avg is about 15, but those are all stick...but i shouldnt be 2 seconds behind maybe half a second

NYY42
05-19-2007, 08:15 PM
well fu** im puttin my OEM chip back in next week and getting my time... i see on dragtimes.com avg is about 15, but those are all stick...but i shouldnt be 2 seconds behind maybe half a second

so its an auto 325?

318ibmw
05-19-2007, 08:17 PM
ya

DTM325
05-19-2007, 08:25 PM
well fu** im puttin my OEM chip back in next week and getting my time... i see on dragtimes.com avg is about 15, but those are all stick...but i shouldnt be 2 seconds behind maybe half a second

maybe it's the driver and not the car:shifty

mstrbatingbear
05-19-2007, 08:44 PM
you would be surprised how much an automatic tranny can slow you down. i'm calling driver error w/ auto= 2 seconds slow

96m3SC
05-19-2007, 08:51 PM
you would be surprised how much an automatic tranny can slow you down. i'm calling driver error w/ auto= 2 seconds slow


yes


at least the base model rsx will run a consistent 16 seconds of slow.


that 17.1 will not beat one on the streets

mstrbatingbear
05-19-2007, 09:00 PM
back when i was rockin' the mustang gt(5.0) auto, i was only running mid 14s with some light modification. 5-speeds FTW!!!!

ohnoes
05-19-2007, 10:19 PM
yes


at least the base model rsx will run a consistent 16 seconds of slow.


that 17.1 will not beat one on the streets

Well, an E36 M3 isn't the epitome of fast, either. 14 second 1/4 miles are pretty slow, but it's all relative. You could say and 11-second 1/4 mile is slow, if you have a 7-second drag racer. Again, it's all relative. A 16-second 1/4 mile is much quicker than the majority of cars on the road, but it's significantly slower than a particular segment of cars--the ones of which we are "enthusiasts."

M3/4 LIFE
05-20-2007, 09:15 AM
damn this is like the special olympics

:lol:lol:lol

NYY42
05-20-2007, 09:48 AM
Is circuit city related to race city?

stanksbeamen
05-20-2007, 10:21 AM
damn this is like the special olympics

LOLOL haha omg...:confused:)

Schneller Bayer
05-20-2007, 02:48 PM
You can only make so many driver errors with an auto... weird.

Spoolin'
05-20-2007, 05:44 PM
Well, an E36 M3 isn't the epitome of fast, either. 14 second 1/4 miles are pretty slow, but it's all relative. You could say and 11-second 1/4 mile is slow, if you have a 7-second drag racer. Again, it's all relative. A 16-second 1/4 mile is much quicker than the majority of cars on the road, but it's significantly slower than a particular segment of cars--the ones of which we are "enthusiasts."

Its getting to the point where a 16 second car is just slow in general. When stock suvs, trucks and sedans are faster, you have a slow car.

318ibmw
05-20-2007, 06:09 PM
ive been told this is a terrible city to get a time in, calgary alberta..... practically denver colorado of the us!!! i dunno how much that would have in effect though

Bailey
05-20-2007, 06:09 PM
Its getting to the point where a 16 second car is just slow in general. When stock suvs, trucks and sedans are faster, you have a slow car.

+1

Mstngcobr761
05-20-2007, 08:51 PM
Is this a joke? An E30 or E36 325iS should walk a base RSX. The RSX-S, on the other hand, is a different story. More HP than either the E30 or E36, and lighter than the latter. The RSX-S would walk both.

what are you talking about....stock e36 M trashes RSX-S'

n00bjabi
05-20-2007, 09:02 PM
k i neeeed answers so off topic but im so ashamed, i got a 325is 1995 auto JC chip, short ram intake, m3 exhaust,,,,went to race city tonite best run 17.1.....seems normal i think, i was racing a 2003 325ci, first 2 races i won then i tought him how to drive stick and rev to 4000 at launch, he was going to 2000, then next 2 races he just beat me anyways so then we go to street races, and i race a stock basic rsx 160hp and lose, is this just cuz my engine was bagged all night or what?? seemed like my vanos was dead after race city!!
Uhh... I ran my bone stock 87 CRX (91hp) and I ran 17 flat... 17.1 in your car seems embarassing, does the automatic really make it that much slower?

God damn...

BKHuff
05-20-2007, 10:16 PM
17.1 is way high...
I got a 328i which i bought with modifications already in it. he never specified what mods(family friend I'll seif i cant get a list) but I went nose to nose with a type-s all the way to 3rd and in the end of 3rd i pulled away. He might have started breaking though couldnt find out tho he wouldnt run with me again.

96m3SC
05-21-2007, 12:20 AM
Well, an E36 M3 isn't the epitome of fast, either. 14 second 1/4 miles are pretty slow, but it's all relative. You could say and 11-second 1/4 mile is slow, if you have a 7-second drag racer. Again, it's all relative. A 16-second 1/4 mile is much quicker than the majority of cars on the road, but it's significantly slower than a particular segment of cars--the ones of which we are "enthusiasts."

sorry guy that car is slower then my buddies bone stock 93 civic ex with over 160k miles.
at least it ran a 16.6 and high 16's all day, never once did he run a 17 or slower.

and it's bone stock not even droped plus we are in cali were people run slower times then other states.

i bet the rsx base will do better then this civic

Spoolin'
05-21-2007, 01:01 AM
what are you talking about....stock e36 M trashes RSX-S'

He was talking about the 325is.

318ibmw
05-21-2007, 01:41 AM
k so times are slower in calli, but u would expect therm to be alot slower at a higher elevation correct?? like i said were basically a denver of canada....although how much slower should it be?

mstrbatingbear
05-21-2007, 02:44 AM
ok, i got a little bit of math for ya. if you figure that you have appx. 180hp with your mods at 5ft above sea level, then when you shoot up to about a mile above sea level, you hp will drop to about 148. now granted, weather is also a factor as is your exact hp. it may also be beneficial to search and try to find out how much slower the automatic is than the 5-speed. i have a question for you guys though...did they make a auto iS? and if so, why?

caleb d.

math sourced from SlowGT.com/calc2.htm tech calculators and is appx. click on Basic Altitude Versus Horsepower Calculator...i would link, but i got powned trying to because of the low post count.

SQ Bimmer
05-21-2007, 02:49 AM
What a mess of a thread. Were we ever able to figure out the elevation the track was at?

NYY42
05-21-2007, 01:28 PM
Its getting to the point where a 16 second car is just slow in general. When stock suvs, trucks and sedans are faster, you have a slow car.

They make 13 second trucks, suvs and 11 second sedans:confused

Spoolin'
05-21-2007, 02:14 PM
They make 13 second trucks, suvs and 11 second sedans:confused

Obviously you understand what I meant right? :rolleyes

mstrbatingbear
05-21-2007, 02:25 PM
Were we ever able to figure out the elevation the track was at?

he said that he was in the "denver of canada" so i used about a mile high. i used 180hp as a base figure from a approximation from another member.

also, OP, how sure are you that that RSX was stock? just because it sounds stock doesn't mean it necessarily is. oh, and have you ran it again since you fixed that vaccum line?

(btw: answered my own question in my previous post....too tired to edit.)

318ibmw
05-21-2007, 02:35 PM
naw ill run it again this friday, but yea thats what i figured being so high above sea level would affect it, if i run a 17 second hear what would i run in a ideal location approx?

hooRAH
05-21-2007, 02:52 PM
What was the best time that the 03 325ci ran?

NYY42
05-21-2007, 03:45 PM
Obviously you understand what I meant right? :rolleyes:D

318ibmw
05-21-2007, 06:57 PM
best time of the 03 325 was 16.6, or 16.8 forget wich one.....thats why im thinkin our air myst suck, cuz thats soo high for that car and i mean theres not a whole lot of room for error on a auto, and he launched about 2 cars ahead of me then i very slowly caught up, not enough to pass.....hes stock as i said and i got chip intake exhaust

ohnoes
05-21-2007, 08:55 PM
Auto 325ci should run high 15's, manual low to mid 15's.

318ibmw
05-21-2007, 10:15 PM
once again depends on the climate

06dc5s
05-21-2007, 10:35 PM
i own an rsx-s and im not here to flame or start anything up butttttt, the rsx-s is pretty quick down that 1/4, i did 13.4 w/ just boltons and stock tires and for you douchbags saying that "its a honda, wut do you expect?"

i was beating my friends 5 series when i was bone stock, beating new 330s bone stock..ive beaten alot of "faster" cars. so guys plz dont say its just a honda, cuz the rsx has probably the best mod responding motor out there.

btw im looking to get rid of the rsx for a 335, we'll see :)

318ibmw
05-21-2007, 10:48 PM
u race that 5 series any longer he woulda blew by u, and the 330 didnt know how to drive, after fixing my vaccum line, i went out and raced my friends type s and despite the start me being auto him manual, he only had half a car, from that point on it was slowly gaining till about 100kmh went by him im callin :bs on your kills

ohnoes
05-21-2007, 11:05 PM
i own an rsx-s and im not here to flame or start anything up butttttt, the rsx-s is pretty quick down that 1/4, i did 13.4 w/ just boltons and stock tires and for you douchbags saying that "its a honda, wut do you expect?"

i was beating my friends 5 series when i was bone stock, beating new 330s bone stock..ive beaten alot of "faster" cars. so guys plz dont say its just a honda, cuz the rsx has probably the best mod responding motor out there.

btw im looking to get rid of the rsx for a 335, we'll see :)

13.4 with bolt-ons???? Nearly E46 M3 territory????


:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

Thanks for the laugh!


Maybe with a bolt-on turbo!

blackspecE46
05-21-2007, 11:16 PM
and it's bone stock not even droped plus we are in cali were people run slower times then other states.

WTF?! Cali is at sea level depending what city you are in, so you SHOULD run faster since the engine should run better bc of the lower elevation, I have relatives in Oregon and whenever I drive there my car gets better acceleration and makes me wanna race anyone, so your not making sense dude.

06dc5s
05-21-2007, 11:30 PM
raced the 5 series from a stop. i got so far ahead of him i let off at end of 4th, around 110mph. from a roll we went pretty even (40mph, end of 1st for me) i did get on him by a car then at the end of 3rd he right next to me. 330 wasnt even a match...a 3.0 liter making 215hp in that heavy car, seriously no match for a stock type s.

call bs on my kills, i don't care bro. theres alot of 05 type-s hitting mid 13s w/ bolt ons and no ecu mods. ive gotten my ass handed to me vs my cuzzins stock 335 from a stop and from a roll. and again, im not here to start anything up...i love the rsx-s and love the 335 but i just want you guys to know that some rsx-s out there arent a joke just how some 3 series arent a joke, and i respect them both. i'm just a car enthusiast like that... not to brag or anything but if guys are interested i can list some of the cars ive killed and gotten killed by.

edit; wtf is the e46 m3? im not familiar w/ the "e" infront of each bmw lol

blackspecE46
05-21-2007, 11:34 PM
i was beating my friends 5 series when i was bone stock, beating new 330s bone stock..ive beaten alot of "faster" cars. so guys plz dont say its just a honda, cuz the rsx has probably the best mod responding motor out there.

btw im looking to get rid of the rsx for a 335, we'll see :)
:lol:lol:nono
I'm sorry to break your bubble but the K20 is not the best motor out there, so dont try to brag! With only an estimated 200hp AT the crank?! So unless you have all the goodies like turbo and nitrous and a built motor you wont walk over BMW's thats if your friends knew how to drive. My brother in law has an ep3 with the type s head a couple of bolt ons and my 323ci beats him every time with just a CM lightweight flywheel and a couple of bolt on as well, so do us all a favor and plz just DONT!

NYY42
05-21-2007, 11:37 PM
i own an rsx-s and im not here to flame or start anything up butttttt, the rsx-s is pretty quick down that 1/4, i did 13.4 w/ just boltons and stock tires and for you douchbags saying that "its a honda, wut do you expect?"

i was beating my friends 5 series when i was bone stock, beating new 330s bone stock..ive beaten alot of "faster" cars. so guys plz dont say its just a honda, cuz the rsx has probably the best mod responding motor out there.

btw im looking to get rid of the rsx for a 335, we'll see :)

your i/h/e + hondata might get you very high 13s. NOT 13.4

06dc5s
05-21-2007, 11:45 PM
and a stock type s is supposed to do 14.9 on the 1/4. i did 14.4 w/ just a cold air intake

an rsx is supposed to lose to a 350z, g35, neons w/ turbos, s200s, but ive only lost to a stage 1 neon...is it hard to accept my times? goto clubrsx and look at the drag section. theres alott of guys doing mid 13s w/ boltons.

Spoolin'
05-22-2007, 12:40 AM
i own an rsx-s and im not here to flame or start anything up butttttt, the rsx-s is pretty quick down that 1/4, i did 13.4 w/ just boltons and stock tires and for you douchbags saying that "its a honda, wut do you expect?"

i was beating my friends 5 series when i was bone stock, beating new 330s bone stock..ive beaten alot of "faster" cars. so guys plz dont say its just a honda, cuz the rsx has probably the best mod responding motor out there.

btw im looking to get rid of the rsx for a 335, we'll see :)


I have heard of rsx's with bolt ons getting as good as 13.7 passes. It wouldnt terribly shock me if there were a few running 13.4s, but Im sure some ecu tuning was required. Their motor does respond quite well to mods, but to say that its the best responding motor is just plain hondaboy mentality.

You are not doing a great job of representing the honda tuning community. :rolleyes

06dc5s
05-22-2007, 01:06 AM
lol i meant to say that the k series is probably the best motor honda has made since the b series. sorry dude

98M3Sedan
05-22-2007, 03:48 AM
k i neeeed answers so off topic but im so ashamed, i got a 325is 1995 auto JC chip, short ram intake, m3 exhaust,,,,went to race city tonite best run 17.1.....seems normal i think, i was racing a 2003 325ci, first 2 races i won then i tought him how to drive stick and rev to 4000 at launch, he was going to 2000, then next 2 races he just beat me anyways so then we go to street races, and i race a stock basic rsx 160hp and lose, is this just cuz my engine was bagged all night or what?? seemed like my vanos was dead after race city!!

haha i saw a tercel run a 21 :devillook

mstrbatingbear
05-22-2007, 12:09 PM
edit; wtf is the e46 m3? im not familiar w/ the "e" infront of each bmw lol

i hate to bump this up again, but OMFG!!! that is the most hilarious thing. E46 is the body style/year model of the M3 in question. if you have bothered to look at the "car specific" forums down below, you would have noticed that.

96m3SC
05-22-2007, 12:44 PM
your i/h/e + hondata might get you very high 13s. NOT 13.4


i don't know man if the k20 was in a hatch i would believe you but in a rsx body a 13.4 is way fast for just bolt ons.

i ran a rsxs that dyno 220 at the wheels when i had my turbo hatch (I'm striped out with 225 drag radials) for $50 and regulated him by so many cars i couldn't count it any more.

i knew it was an unfare match but that fool talk so much shit like he was running 12's or something. and told me he's been smoking turbo hondas left and right.

had to shut him up. and took his money