long time reader first time poster....

spec's

1993 325
vf s/c 6psi
hiop headers
trackpipe
hks exhaust

200X s2000
intake
exhaust

it was about 55 degrees out, no wind, and no one on the road. As i was leaving downtown i see a guy switching in and out of lanes trying to catch up to me. i figured he wanted to line up. I usually don't race (due to past driving record) and i wasn't about to race downtown or near campus-so i lead him out to the bypass for a nice empty road leading out of town.

We hit a light, he pipes me, and i get ready. I watch the yellow light, bring the RPM's up-turns green and take off. Both had a decent launch-RPM climb and i'm right in my powerband-i hit 2nd gear he jumps 1/4 of a CL, he shift and i we're back mirror to mirror, 3ed gear he starts to pull about 1-1 1/2 CLs.
Hit 4th and he's about 3 CL and pulling

My speed was about 115ish before i shut it down. After i caught up asked him if he was modded or stock-told me he had a cai and exhaust-said good race,sweet BMW- and we parted ways

-Cliff notes
s/c'd 325 lost to an s2000 by 3+CL

:( 2.5L FTL

Sweet looking car though :)
-Ted

ouch. more boost coming up.

yeah...i know, more boost is on the way:devillook

ot-i raced my friends s50'd m3 (cai, sw and cat back), i walked him from 2nd gear on....don't m3's usually beat s2000's? or is it more intraweb bs?

hm... I figured a car like yours would put down close to 250whp and beat the s2k.

yeah...i know, more boost is on the way:devillook

ot-i raced my friends s50'd m3 (cai, sw and cat back), i walked him from 2nd gear on....don't m3's usually beat s2000's? or is it more intraweb bs?

maybe the s2k had more in it? A factory freak? M3's generally pull on s2ks.

Good conditions for the non intercooled blower. I would think that if all 6 psi were there, with your mods, you would have been making considerably more than his likely 250 crank hp. Have you checked your boost? Any possible explanations?

Philip Bradley

i have a boost gauge-it's reading 6psi a little before 6200rpms. the vac is around 20 at idle and 10 at part throttle. Has a smotth idle, no CEL's...did a compression test and was all good across the board. Pre s/c it did 185-189whp and 163-167ft/lbs-so the motors pretty decent.

put in a 3.38 rear end and some lighter wheels ... :)

Do you have a aftermarket flywheel/clutch/ssk etc?

189 whp isn't that far from stock M3 territory, so I would think you would be able to dust one with the SC. Are you sure your clutch isn't slipping or something?

This makes no sense, I beat one in my tacoma from a roll...

has zf swap-AAltw fly and m3 clutch w/ AA ssk-

weight reduction-
car is lightly gutted (no rear seat, spaire, jack, ect...)
sparco seats
cf hood, deck lid

18" wheels 21lbs each

weight adder-
roll bar
e46 330 brake swap

yeah, that guy must have a freak of a motor or more mods than he cares to admit... cause with your mods and pre sc dyno numbers and weight reduction, you should dust him.

You got sprayed. He probably lit it up going from 3rd to 4th and walked you out after you staying with him through the first 3 gears.

Did you notice dark gray/black smoke from his exhaust or did you smell a burnt match smell?

If so ...you got sprayed.:confused

Just an Intake and exhaust on an S2000 will not wallk away that much if at all on you. In all reality is should be...

You> lightly modded E36 M3>S2000

wasn't really paying attention if there was smoke, and i had my windows up so i didn't smell anything.

i'm kinda wondering if my clutch is the problem...but an stock m3 clutch with about 5,xxx miles should be fine.

What mods did you have when you dynoed at 189whp? Thats what those have stock at the crank.

What mods did you have when you dynoed at 189whp? Thats what those have stock at the crank.

i thought they have 240 at the crank

i had intake, sw, headers, trackpipe, exhaust

opps i read that wrong

EDIT: i thought you were talking about the s2000 having 189 at the crank...i'm dumb

i think the guy in the s2k wasnt given u all the info

Many of the S2000 owners change their final drive gearing as well, just like BMW owners. He also could have had a CF supercharger, especially considering how well he launched (e.g., Comptech)...

i thought they have 240 at the crank

i had intake, sw, headers, trackpipe, exhaust

Your stock would have 189 at the crank, so that's why it was questionable that you dynod at 189 pre-s/c. :shifty

actually i said i did 185-189whp with 163-167 ft.lbs.
meaning i did more then 1 run. 5 to be exact. and if you want to get specific my air fuel was rich dropping into 12's towards the top.

but that's besides the point. i'm waiting to dyno again with the s/c. and it will be on the same dyno and close to same conditions.

edit:i re-read that post and thought the guy was talking about the s2000....

the S2 had to have more then that to walk on you.
probably some kind of ecu upgrade like hondata with all the bolt ons

What are your numbers and weight?

210whp S2000 at say 2800lbs vs 240-250whp?

I would reason that the S2K was making similar power figures if not more to leave you like that

Spray or blower

no numbers yet, still waiting to get to the dyno.

but i would hope to be in the 260+whp range.

i have no clue what the car weights, lighter thern stock, but not sure how much...

gd run but i think u got sucked in, he prolly had a lil extra.