View Full Version : www.bmw320i.com is a joke
BoostedE21 05-15-2007, 11:54 AM So i was board at work yesterday and i diecided to check that site out after like 6 years. 6 years ago, i got banned for so reason along with AZ Matt.
Anyways, yesterday i registered and i got accepted (boy did i feel special :rolleyes ). So i made one post saying what up and a pic of my car. Today i go to sign in and guess what, i got banned again or something. That place is suck a joke. Rather then trying to bring the E21 community together or a place for E21;ers to go also, they push people away.
Anyway, anyone that knows the mods or owners there, feel free to point them to this thread. Should they look at this, i will say again, that site is a joke. They need new people to run it or a new owner then those 2 old dumbasses.
uberpanzer 05-15-2007, 11:57 AM Seriously! Ican understand if you killed the guys dog or something. But if all you had done in the past was offer a different opinion on how to tune/build a car WITH FACTS to back it up, there is no reason to ban you nor continue to ban you 6 YEARS later. I'm thinking maybe someone is butt hurt that your car is faster. :D
BoostedE21 05-15-2007, 12:02 PM Seriously! Ican understand if you killed the guys dog or something. But if all you had done in the past was offer a different opinion on how to tune/build a car WITH FACTS to back it up, there is no reason to ban you nor continue to ban you 6 YEARS later. I'm thinking maybe someone is butt hurt that your car is faster. :D
Thats exactly what i did, offer different opinions and had the facts to back it up. It was something dumb like "you can get more power building it N/A then boost", i simply told them thats not true...or something like that.
Yeah maybe the old guys are butt hurt cause i know more then them with a faster car and im alot younger.
blitzed310 05-15-2007, 12:17 PM Some places serve a different demographic.
People think this place is a joke. IMO, this is a great place for both info whether technical or general, and also a place to have a little entertainment.
jrcook320 05-15-2007, 02:02 PM It's owned and moderated by the guy that owns e21parts.net. I've heard he's a strange guy, but we all know his products are top notch.
My car is faster than most on that forum as well and I haven't been banned. In fact there is even a forced induction forum now.
I have even indirectly posted the DIY on how to fill your subframe bushings with poly which is somewhat in competition with paying him the big bucks to get the real parts.
uberpanzer 05-15-2007, 03:08 PM So then why would Atilla have been banned this time before posting?
....Dude...you DID kill his dog, didn't you?
Cerpin TaxT 05-15-2007, 03:28 PM ...Dude...you DID kill his dog, didn't you?
DOG KILLER
BoostedE21 05-15-2007, 03:31 PM So then why would Atilla have been banned this time before posting?
....Dude...you DID kill his dog, didn't you?
hahaha, no i didnt.
Not sure why i got banned this time after 6 years of staying away from that site.
But whatever, i wont recommend that site or any of the so called products.:nono
jrcook320 05-15-2007, 05:38 PM What was your screen name on 320i.com? I'm going to ask Fred why you've been banned. I don't really care if I get banned from the site, I've been more of a resource to the guys there than I have been asking questions.
jjgbmw323 05-15-2007, 05:50 PM Fred's products are top notch. That site is a lot different...banning people for no apparent reason
Luckly we have the best place on the net for our cars right here.
Thanks Bimmerfourms.
The entertainment is also good here although I seem to be a target.. boy you guys are going to eat some crow when my car actually does run.
BoostedE21 05-15-2007, 06:06 PM What was your screen name on 320i.com? I'm going to ask Fred why you've been banned. I don't really care if I get banned from the site, I've been more of a resource to the guys there than I have been asking questions.
The name is the same as it is here : boostede21
I would like to know why also. Let me know what you find.
BruceH 05-15-2007, 06:12 PM The entertainment is also good here although I seem to be a target.. boy you guys are going to eat some crow when my car actually does run.
You have really committed yourself now.
jjgbmw323 05-15-2007, 07:07 PM You have really committed yourself now.
:offtopic The pistons are being made right now. Soon bro
BMWJNKY 05-15-2007, 07:20 PM I got banned from there a while ago too. I was trying to help turn it into a club that did regular meets and drives and not just a site for information. I was actually a moderator for a while but after I had a few people get behind the idea of making it a car club too I was banned. Now that I think about it I think I got banned cause I was posting non-E21 off topic stuff in the off topic section, and it wasn't anything bad either I think it was just some photos of other cars I had owned and stuff I liked to do besides work on and drive my E21.
Broly238 05-15-2007, 09:16 PM I never got banned and I made a website and pulled about 20 people away from them...
waferman 05-15-2007, 09:54 PM Fred's products are top notch. .
Fred's stiff engine dampener is a $20 or so part from autozone, cobbled from some rear suspention part. Someone figured it out and posted it on his site, not knowing Fred sold the thing for a lot more. It wasnt deleted...
There used to be a 323i forum on the site also. Back when it was still there, a local BMW guru opposed a statement by someone, maby even Fred, and got banned. He didnt use profanity- he just bluntly stated "you are wrong. This is how it works" or some such..
IMO it's still a good site- I go here for some info (and entertainment from Matt and CJ:lol) and there are a couple of diehard gearheads that frequent 320.com that I trust for info. One guy is a machinest...
John
waferman 05-15-2007, 10:01 PM The name is the same as it is here : boostede21
I would like to know why also. Let me know what you find.
WOW I read your first post the other day, come to think of it..you had nothing but praise from the dudes there...Layne (machinest) was uncharicteristically excited by your pics...me thinks a grudge is afoot. Did you tell Fred he had a tiny willy or some such?
jrcook320 05-15-2007, 11:29 PM Fred's stiff engine dampener is a $20 or so part from autozone, cobbled from some rear suspention part. Someone figured it out and posted it on his site, not knowing Fred sold the thing for a lot more. It wasnt deleted...
There used to be a 323i forum on the site also. Back when it was still there, a local BMW guru opposed a statement by someone, maby even Fred, and got banned. He didnt use profanity- he just bluntly stated "you are wrong. This is how it works" or some such..
IMO it's still a good site- I go here for some info (and entertainment from Matt and CJ:lol) and there are a couple of diehard gearheads that frequent 320.com that I trust for info. One guy is a machinest...
John
It's actually an $8 part. I posted the part number here a while ago.
BoostedE21 05-16-2007, 12:24 AM WOW I read your first post the other day, come to think of it..you had nothing but praise from the dudes there...Layne (machinest) was uncharicteristically excited by your pics...me thinks a grudge is afoot. Did you tell Fred he had a tiny willy or some such?
I think freddy there is jealous. When i got banned SIX years ago, i basicly told freddy and that other foo they are wrong, they didnt like it and just banned me, thats why AZ Matt got banned also.
My first post there right now was nothing but a "hi" and pics of my car, nothing more, nothing less. Im still curious as what his reasoning is this time.
As other people have stated, if Freddy there dosent like what you said, you get the ban stick for no reason. To that i say, to hell with that site.
JR, let me know when you find out the Freddy boy there says.
autox320 05-16-2007, 01:33 AM long story guys, but don't hate
Bottom line is it's Fred's site and he can do whatever the hell he wants:D
shadyduk1979 05-16-2007, 10:16 AM It's actually an $8 part. I posted the part number here a while ago.
What is it?
BoostedE21 05-16-2007, 10:23 AM long story guys, but don't hate
Bottom line is it's Fred's site and he can do whatever the hell he wants:D
Yes of course we know that, but if he bans people for no reason, thats pretty mesed up. I would think he would want people that know a thing or two and help each other out...i guess hes not a true "enthusiast"
jrcook320 05-16-2007, 10:57 AM What is it?
A link to the thread is in the FAQ thread
TheNeek 05-16-2007, 11:09 AM long story guys
I've got nothing but time to listen. I too am one of the accused.
BoostedE21 05-16-2007, 11:42 AM I've got nothing but time to listen. I too am one of the accused.
+1, i think we all have the time to listen........
Broly238 05-16-2007, 11:47 AM long story guys, but don't hate
Bottom line is it's Fred's site and he can do whatever the hell he wants:D
Lol, then he obviously has no idea what kind of admin you have to be to run a forum.
jrcook320 05-16-2007, 11:59 AM Fred,
I am wondering why boostede21 (Attilla) was banned from bmw320i.com? I don't know what has happened in the past, but it seems that his recent post was harmless. In my opinion he is a benificial and valuable member of the group. There aren't many e21's as nice or as fast as his, and there aren't many CIS turbo m10's running around out there. He has put a lot of work into his car and I think he has a lot to offer to the group.
I think you have a great site, a great forum and your products are excellent. Why alienate members of the e21 community and potential customers over differing opinions posted on a message board? Discussing ideas and sharing your opinion is what the forums are for, there are bound to be differing opinions with as diverse a group as we have. Thanks for taking the time to consider my question.
Regards,
Josh Cook
Cerpin TaxT 05-16-2007, 12:06 PM Fred,
I am wondering why boostede21 (Attilla) was banned from bmw320i.com? I don't know what has happened in the past, but it seems that his recent post was harmless. In my opinion he is a benificial and valuable member of the group. There aren't many e21's as nice or as fast as his, and there aren't many CIS turbo m10's running around out there. He has put a lot of work into his car and I think he has a lot to offer to the group.
I think you have a great site, a great forum and your products are excellent. Why alienate members of the e21 community and potential customers over differing opinions posted on a message board? Discussing ideas and sharing your opinion is what the forums are for, there are bound to be differing opinions with as diverse a group as we have. Thanks for taking the time to consider my question.
Regards,
Josh Cook
***Attila's name has one L amigo :D
BoostedE21 05-16-2007, 12:11 PM Fred,
I am wondering why boostede21 (Attilla) was banned from bmw320i.com? I don't know what has happened in the past, but it seems that his recent post was harmless. In my opinion he is a benificial and valuable member of the group. There aren't many e21's as nice or as fast as his, and there aren't many CIS turbo m10's running around out there. He has put a lot of work into his car and I think he has a lot to offer to the group.
I think you have a great site, a great forum and your products are excellent. Why alienate members of the e21 community and potential customers over differing opinions posted on a message board? Discussing ideas and sharing your opinion is what the forums are for, there are bound to be differing opinions with as diverse a group as we have. Thanks for taking the time to consider my question.
Regards,
Josh Cook
Damn, nice write up, wonder what he will say to that...or not say.....:shifty
Broly238 05-16-2007, 01:09 PM Damn, nice write up, wonder what he will say to that...or not say.....:shifty
Fix your sig, or ban! ;)
Cerpin TaxT 05-16-2007, 01:25 PM What the hell was wrong with it?
blitzed310 05-16-2007, 01:32 PM It was too big.
"I think what she's trying to say is that you hungarian boys pack too much meat."
"What we have here, little yellow sister, is a magnificent specimen of pure Alabama Blacksnake. But it ain't too goddamned beau coup. "
booyaa take that Private! Sorry, I have nothing positive to contribute to this thread. I will see myself out.
autox320 05-16-2007, 01:49 PM Look, I enjoyed hanging out with Fred and helping him engineer parts specifically for the E21. Some of which completely made the difference of winning autocrosses.
I remember when just about each and every one of you were once on the forum and when each of you were banned. Simply put, Fred doesn't have time for kiddie shit on his forum. Then or now. He wants to keep it as professional as possible. He's recieved many threats and attacks on his website for one reason or another. Don't bother trying to sneek in, cause your all on a "list". It's his site it's his business. You can still use the forum for research, and buy the parts. Just email him and see if you can get back on as a grace period or something. Be happy the guy is still around, cause people like him won't be forever.
asta
blitzed310 05-16-2007, 02:00 PM I'll give my opinion on this I guess.
I have nothing against Fred. In fact I think he is a great guy. He helped me out on a group buy, and a few other things that I really appreciate (Thanks again Fred!). But when it comes down to it, the forum is his creation, and he has the right to do, and run it however way he wishes. He didn't make the forum to please you, if he doesn't like your car, your attitude, the way you walk, etc, then he has the right to vanish you. It shouldn't bother you if you are not allowed there. For some reason my account was never even authorized for posting privileges, and I registered twice. So who knows. Either way, this "kiddie" attitude you speak of sticks to this forum where I know most of these guys understand my demeanor. I wont take that attitude there, nor do I take it to Tri's site, or the other various forums I am a member off (not saying that comment was directed to me).
I commend Fred for his efforts in improving the E21, and being an ASSET to the community.
All in all, who cares.
jrcook320 05-16-2007, 02:38 PM I agree, he's an asset to the E21 community and we should appreciate everything he has done for all of us.
BoostedE21 05-16-2007, 02:47 PM Look, I enjoyed hanging out with Fred and helping him engineer parts specifically for the E21. Some of which completely made the difference of winning autocrosses.
I remember when just about each and every one of you were once on the forum and when each of you were banned. Simply put, Fred doesn't have time for kiddie shit on his forum. Then or now. He wants to keep it as professional as possible. He's recieved many threats and attacks on his website for one reason or another. Don't bother trying to sneek in, cause your all on a "list". It's his site it's his business. You can still use the forum for research, and buy the parts. Just email him and see if you can get back on as a grace period or something. Be happy the guy is still around, cause people like him won't be forever.
asta
:rofl i nearly fell out of my chair.."kiddie shit"...hahahah
Kiddie, i think some guys here know more then he does
Yes i know its his site and whatever, but come on, banned people for "professional" opinions and the facts to back it up is "kiddie shit". The only child i see at that site is freddy boy himself.
And you say be happy for what, he doesnt help me nor would i even ask for help or buy anything from a person like him. Plus, i dont want to on the site, just was bored a few days ago and wanted to go there and see if anything has changed in SIX years...i guess not LOL.
Tis a shame really to run a site that is made for people that are E21 enthusiast's and the owner himself isnt and bans true enthusiasts.
Oh well, not like i would buy anything or ask him for help LMFAO!
BoostedE21 05-16-2007, 02:47 PM Fix your sig, or ban! ;)
P.S is has been fixed since yesterday.....
BoostedE21 05-16-2007, 02:54 PM I agree, he's an asset to the E21 community and we should appreciate everything he has done for all of us.
Like what? I havent even heard that guy or what parts he sells. If you consider a person pushing away fellow E21'ers, sure look up to him, i surely dont look to anyone with that attitued, heck, i would welcome any and all E21 owners not push them away :rolleyes
Again, tis a shame for that site to be run by a child.
blitzed310 05-16-2007, 03:31 PM Like what? I havent even heard that guy or what parts he sells.
Name one other E21 store out there that caters to only the E21. Mind you this is a guy doing this on his spare time. There are people out there that don't use forums, and are not as savvy as some people here that can make their own subframe mounts or the numerous other parts he makes.
Just because you have personal beef with him, you cant deny that he is doing allot for the community.
BoostedE21 05-16-2007, 03:36 PM Name one other E21 store out there that caters to only the E21. Mind you this is a guy doing this on his spare time. There are people out there that don't use forums, and are not as savvy as some people here that can make their own subframe mounts or the numerous other parts he makes.
Just because you have personal beef with him, you cant deny that he is doing allot for the community.
I couldnt even name him before this, heck i cant even name one shop/store/person that makes/works on E21 parts. I did all this shit myself with my dads help.
My problem is that he acts like a child in banning people for reasons such as he doesnt like your opinion or your car is fast or whatever. Also, i wont deny what he has done or admit to what he has done, cause i dont know what he has done or dose, all i know is that its a shame there is a site for E21'er to go to and he pushs enthusiasts away, specially ones that know quiet about the car and can help out.
blitzed310 05-16-2007, 03:41 PM I know what your saying, and Im not trying to change your mind or pursuade you to think otherwise. Im providing a different perspective on the situation. And I know you did the work with our dad, but YOU did not make any of the parts you used, now did you.
Have you ever been to the E21Parts store? There are some top notch things on there.
BoostedE21 05-16-2007, 03:45 PM I know what your saying, and Im not trying to change your mind or pursuade you to think otherwise. Im providing a different perspective on the situation. And I know you did the work with our dad, but YOU did not make any of the parts you used, now did you.
Have you ever been to the E21Parts store? There are some top notch things on there.
Oh CJ, i know what your saying, so please dont me wrong either. As for the parts i used, no I didnt make them.....my dad made some parts. And no i havent been to the E21parts store. I'm telling you, i didnt really look for stuff for the car that well cause my dad could either get it or make something. The only stuff i looked for were of course wheels, race seats, intercooler etc etc.
But again, this thread is about how Freddy boy here acts to others within the "community".
Broly238 05-16-2007, 03:57 PM Oh CJ, i know what your saying, so please dont me wrong either. As for the parts i used, no I didnt make them.....my dad made some parts. And no i havent been to the E21parts store. I'm telling you, i didnt really look for stuff for the car that well cause my dad could either get it or make something. The only stuff i looked for were of course wheels, race seats, intercooler etc etc.
But again, this thread is about how Freddy boy here acts to others within the "community".
Why were you banned in the first place? With detail.
blitzed310 05-16-2007, 04:00 PM How the hell do you go 6 years in the community and have never seen or heard of the E21Parts products.
Liar :shifty
BoostedE21 05-16-2007, 04:05 PM Why were you banned in the first place? With detail.
If i remember correctly, 6 years ago i was talking about turbocharging my E21, and a topic came up about you'll get more power and its better to go N/A then boost, and i told them they are wrong, you put boost into the M10 and you'll see more gains then a fully built M10.
And not after SIX years, i go there and post a hi and a few pics of my car and i get banned for that one post.
I think that was about it, it was pretty stupid and made me question how much these guys really know about cars in general.
BTW please enable my sig, it has been fixed since yesterday :D
CJ, i should re-phrase what i said, i have HEARD of them but have not checked them out or bought anything from them. If you were to ask me what stores/shops have E21 parts i would have said Bava auto BMP and thats it...TBH.
uberpanzer 05-16-2007, 04:05 PM The Control Arms he sells are nice, and there was something else on there I had my eye on.
I do remember when looking at some of the stuff he had that there was a cover for the spare tire well, cut to fit the top of the well perfectly. He was charging something over $85 for it I think. My ex-g/f's dad who is a wood worker in his spare time and bought my first e21 from me said that it would cost him about $10 in mats, IF that, and then about 20mins to make. I wish ~I~ was making $225/hr. :stickoutt
But seriously, if someone with a lot of info is acting like a goofball on YOUR site, ban them. If they are acting that way else where, let them have a short leash on your site, ban them if they get out of line. If they directly disagree with your opinion and have the facts to back it up but you ban them, that is just childish. Even worse, if someone has knowledge about a topic rarely discussed on your site (like car audio, which I'm guessing wasn't big in the e21 scene when Matt got banned), don't ban someone that HAS the knowledge just because you don't think that e21's should have that stuff in them. I know plenty of e21 guys with booming systems that also have TONS of useful info about other e21 topics, not just what dance moves are hot right now or what speakers hit hardest in the 12in range. I'm not even sure that is what Matt was banned for, but it sounds that way with Fred not saying anything one way or the other.
I hate to compare him to a certain previous e30 website owner, but he sounds like he's getting DANGEROUSLY close to being like Jordan was.
All of this in mind though, how many of US have taken the time, effort and money to run our own sites? It isn't easy, but there are things to keep in mind when you take certain actions. I applaud Fred though for working on the control arms and other projects that nobody else in the aftermarket seems interested in for the e21's.
blitzed310 05-16-2007, 04:08 PM CJ, i should re-phrase what i said, i have HEARD of them but have not checked them out or bought anything from them. If you were to ask me what stores/shops have E21 parts i would have said Bava auto BMP and thats it...TBH.
Just to clarify, none of those place make any parts for the E21, minus the headers (I think).
BoostedE21 05-16-2007, 04:13 PM Just to clarify, none of those place make any parts for the E21, minus the headers (I think).
Well there you go. The reason i dont know what store have E21 parts is like i said before, i never needed to look for parts, my dad could get them or make stuff.
I think BMP has the gauge pods and a few other things.....i think
uberpanzer 05-16-2007, 04:15 PM ...and BTW, I'm thinking from personal driving time and rides that a built M10 will NOT be as fast as a turbo M10. Hell, I'm thinking righ now that Attila's turbo car is probably faster than a S14 powered e21. But we'll see. :D
uberpanzer 05-16-2007, 04:18 PM Yup, BMP and BavAuto bot carry the gauge pods, and a few other e21 parts (poly steering rack bushings, and some other things that escape me right now) BESIDES all the OEM parts they have for our cars.
320i.com has a much smaller list, but they are SPECIFICALLY for e21's, nothing else.
BoostedE21 05-16-2007, 04:21 PM ...and BTW, I'm thinking from personal driving time and rides that a built M10 will NOT be as fast as a turbo M10. Hell, I'm thinking righ now that Attila's turbo car is probably faster than a S14 powered e21. But we'll see. :D
Well as we saw on the drive up to SB, you and CJ lined up and went for it, and you guys were pretty even, then i came along and well....you know..:D
Anyways, back on topic.....
jrcook320 05-16-2007, 04:55 PM I am suprised you've had your car as long as you have and haven't check his stuff out. I assume you've never had the e21 shimmy?
Go to the site and check it out
e21parts.net (http://www.e21parts.net)
Here's a few of the things he sells:
-dyno proven ignition kit
-distributor flange plug (for EDIS conversions)
-High-rev Rocker Arm Collars
-Urethane Engine Damper (it has a machined stainless collar so there's a little more time put into than the $8 end link I bought from autozone)
-poly bushed front control arms
-urethane rear subframe bushings (You NEED these, or at least do the DIY posted in the FAQ thread)
-Aluminum Rear Shock Tower Brace
-Aluminum Rear Shock Tower Brace & Battery Relocation Assembly
-Front Frame Rail Support Brace.
jrcook320 05-16-2007, 05:08 PM Yeah, a turbo m10 is going to be meaner than your average s14 or even knife edged m20 stroker e21.
It's easy to make over 200 hp, maybe even up to 240 hp using k-jet, and if its a turbo built m10 with efi, 300 hp isn't a problem. Do the math, a 190hp s14 or 190 hp m20 stroker weighs more as well. I'm curious to see where I am now, I'll get on the dyno during the hotrod power tour this June.
It takes a bit of work and a lot of money to get the S14 or the m20 up to 250 hp.
Just out of curiosity, did Jason line up with you Attila? I expect to see more video next year.
blitzed310 05-16-2007, 05:15 PM Just out of curiosity, did Jason line up with you Attila? I expect to see more video next year.
Jason was having issues with the Total Seal Gapless rings. So like any of us would do, he did a motor swap before the fest back to the NA motor so he could join us.
I am eagerly awaiting this match myself.
uberpanzer 05-16-2007, 05:15 PM Well as we saw on the drive up to SB, you and CJ lined up and went for it, and you guys were pretty even, then i came along and well....you know..:D
Actually we were even when CJ down shifted to 4th. He pulled a smiggen when he grabbed 3rd. So I decided to down shift to 4th, pulled pretty hard (not knowing just how MUCH throttle he was still using), then saw you coming up hard in my mirrors. I upshifted to 5th, but had nothing left for ya.
So currently I would say even a poorly tuned turbo M10 can walk on a built NA M10, both still being tuned for street use (my car passed smog, I'm thinking CJ's does too). I hate to break it to the NA guys, esp since I love my S14 and will never boost it. But forced induction is no joke and usually costs less than a hefty NA build. You will get better throttle response from NA, but in almost all cases not AS much power.
....NOW back on topic. :D
BoostedE21 05-16-2007, 05:18 PM JR, i have heard or those items, just never really needed to buy them since i was funding the turbo project. Also, who ownes E21parts.com? Freddy boy?
Jason and i didnt get a chance to line up, his car this year was the stock M10. When Jason had his running he didnt have it tuned so it was under powered big time and i even felt the motor holding back, but the way he was i would be faster, again that cause he was not tuned so i cant say for sure how it would have been if his was tuned.
I'm going to be buying Jason SDS system soon ( i hope) and with that i know i can make a lot more power. I can smooth out the powerband and give the proper timing thoughout the fuel curve (right now the MSD BTM is just a patch).
blitzed310 05-16-2007, 05:22 PM haha, yeah i was like oooo i pulled on Doug, then I was like awwww no mo powa. I think I would launch on you but after 2nd you would walk me. Once you hit 3500 all you hear is SPOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL.
Matt (AZ) almost pulled on me after dinner with Jason in the car. Until he realized afterwards that I downshifted from 4th to 3rd while the whole time he was at WOT in 2nd :stickoutt
uberpanzer 05-16-2007, 06:02 PM Straying SOOOO far off topic...
I wentto turbo because it dropped in my lap as a CARB legal one for a price I could afford. I did NOT go looking for it. For what I use the car for (autoX'ing), a peaky turbo might not be the right way to go, totally up for debate. You have SOOO much more low end torque than I do, and I envy you there. The run off the light with Attila showed us all that I have no torque (above a stock M10) at low rpms. Torque is nice to get out of the turns with. But we'll see at the end of this month what the peaky turbo (maybe even tuned a little) can do since I'll be at the SD autoX on the 28th.
And I SOOOO need to figure out a way to quiet down the motor a bit more so you can hear MORE of that spool. Sounds like a diesel truck turbo. :D
BoostedE21 05-16-2007, 06:11 PM Doug i love the sound your turbo makes, sadly i can heardly hear mine, which can be a good thing to make it a sleeper, but the BOV kinda gives that away :evil2
jjgbmw323 05-16-2007, 06:14 PM So currently I would say even a poorly tuned turbo M10 can walk on a built NA M10, both still being tuned for street use (my car passed smog, I'm thinking CJ's does too). I hate to break it to the NA guys, esp since I love my S14 and will never boost it. But forced induction is no joke and usually costs less than a hefty NA build. You will get better throttle response from NA, but in almost all cases not AS much power.
....NOW back on topic. :D
Thats so very true. Forced induction rocks.
Now back on topic..why does Fred keeping banning people?
BruceH 05-16-2007, 06:27 PM Now back on topic..why does Fred keeping banning people?
Because he has standards, it is his board and his call.
I think I am one of the few people here who has met him. He is a good guy that makes very good products. There is no comparision between a home made spare cover and what he sells. The hood pad is first rate. As I renew the Baur's suspension the parts will come from him.
Broly238 05-16-2007, 06:48 PM If i remember correctly, 6 years ago i was talking about turbocharging my E21, and a topic came up about you'll get more power and its better to go N/A then boost, and i told them they are wrong, you put boost into the M10 and you'll see more gains then a fully built M10.
And not after SIX years, i go there and post a hi and a few pics of my car and i get banned for that one post.
I think that was about it, it was pretty stupid and made me question how much these guys really know about cars in general.
BTW please enable my sig, it has been fixed since yesterday :D
CJ, i should re-phrase what i said, i have HEARD of them but have not checked them out or bought anything from them. If you were to ask me what stores/shops have E21 parts i would have said Bava auto BMP and thats it...TBH.
Thats odd, and you didnt call them anything? you just said something along the lines of, you are wrong. That is really stupid of him, it makes it seems as though he doesn't want to learn any more than he does about cars, so he can always be right.
I put in a word to the admins to re enable your sig.
kdanielson 05-16-2007, 06:52 PM I've stayed out of this unitl now...
I frequent this forum, Freds, and Tricords. Each has it's own "flavor" of members. This one definately has a younger crowd and more nickle dime BS than the others. I accept that and when it annoys me I just go away for a while.
I've done business with Fred on a couple occasions, he seems to be a straight up guy-old like me... BTW, he IS a true e21 enthusiast and a great benifit to the e21 community.
I have a pretty good understanding of human behavior and the thought process (that was my job for 5 years-seperate the BS from the truth) and I would bet that 6 years ago Bootsede21's posts (he was 6 years younger) on bmw320i.com were not as adult or professional as stated these days. That's my gut feeling but without hard copy to prove it either way. People tend to see things in the past the way they want to remember them and there is ALWAYS more than one side to every story-Yours, mine, anyone else nearby and the real truth...
I'll step out now and leave you to discuss turbos and such...
ken
Crusty320 05-16-2007, 07:12 PM I've done business with Fred on a couple occasions, he seems to be a straight up guy-old like me... BTW, he IS a true e21 enthusiast and a great benifit to the e21 community...ken
+1 :round
Beam318ti 05-16-2007, 08:43 PM I have met Fred in person and have also bought parts from him and in all my dealings with Fred he has been a gentleman and straight-up guy. He makes great parts for the E21 and is a true enthusiast.
autox320 05-16-2007, 11:27 PM Jason was having issues with the Total Seal Gapless rings. So like any of us would do, he did a motor swap before the fest back to the NA motor so he could join us.
I am eagerly awaiting this match myself.
Noozes! Wow can't say I've never heard bad things about TS rings. I won't say I told you so either, cause he built it right. Those rings are to hard IMO even with the correct cylinder wall.
Damn, good luck Jason with whatever you do man.
MattE21 05-17-2007, 04:26 AM French Connection United Kingdom that site.
http://www.dexigner.com/images/content/news/2272.jpg
blitzed310 05-17-2007, 10:09 AM Noozes! Wow can't say I've never heard bad things about TS rings. I won't say I told you so either, cause he built it right. Those rings are to hard IMO even with the correct cylinder wall.
Damn, good luck Jason with whatever you do man.
Apparently I heard that same thing a few times at bimmerfest. Now, I'm worried since I have the same rings...
blitzed310 05-17-2007, 10:09 AM French Connection United Kingdom that site.
http://www.dexigner.com/images/content/news/2272.jpg
This is your first post out from TO isnt it? Smart.
BoostedE21 05-17-2007, 10:23 AM Thats odd, and you didnt call them anything? you just said something along the lines of, you are wrong. That is really stupid of him, it makes it seems as though he doesn't want to learn any more than he does about cars, so he can always be right.
I put in a word to the admins to re enable your sig.
Nope no name calling, I thought it was a good topic to talk about and see people different views, i guess i was wrong:rolleyes
I've stayed out of this unitl now...
I frequent this forum, Freds, and Tricords. Each has it's own "flavor" of members. This one definately has a younger crowd and more nickle dime BS than the others. I accept that and when it annoys me I just go away for a while.
I've done business with Fred on a couple occasions, he seems to be a straight up guy-old like me... BTW, he IS a true e21 enthusiast and a great benifit to the e21 community.
I have a pretty good understanding of human behavior and the thought process (that was my job for 5 years-seperate the BS from the truth) and I would bet that 6 years ago Bootsede21's posts (he was 6 years younger) on bmw320i.com were not as adult or professional as stated these days. That's my gut feeling but without hard copy to prove it either way. People tend to see things in the past the way they want to remember them and there is ALWAYS more than one side to every story-Yours, mine, anyone else nearby and the real truth...
I'll step out now and leave you to discuss turbos and such...
ken
6 years ago i was 19 yrs old, so no, i was professional about it then not some immature kid, so sorry to say, but your gut feeling if off there and that the truth. BUT, i ask you this, if 6 years have past, and i make my first post there saying hi and posting a pic of my car, why get banned again? Cause of what might have happened SIX years ago? :rolleyes
I say again, true enthusiasts welcome their kind. Why try to build a community and push the fellow members away? follow me. Also, glad to hear some people like him, but you have SEVEAL people here that say they didnt do anything wrong and still got banned for no apparent reason. Yes its his site, but just shows you what type of person he really is.
Broly238 05-17-2007, 10:43 AM Nope no name calling, I thought it was a good topic to talk about and see people different views, i guess i was wrong:rolleyes
6 years ago i was 19 yrs old, so no, i was professional about it then not some immature kid, so sorry to say, but your gut feeling if off there and that the truth. BUT, i ask you this, if 6 years have past, and i make my first post there saying hi and posting a pic of my car, why get banned again? Cause of what might have happened SIX years ago? :rolleyes
I say again, true enthusiasts welcome their kind. Why try to build a community and push the fellow members away? follow me. Also, glad to hear some people like him, but you have SEVEAL people here that say they didnt do anything wrong and still got banned for no apparent reason. Yes its his site, but just shows you what type of person he really is.
I think the hardest part about trying to run a web forum is to pick the difference between what a person is trying to say. Its hard to tell if they are being a prick or if they are just debating because you can't hear the tonal qualities of their voice. So he might have assumed you meant it one way...
But regardless of past mistakes, the quick ban was uncalled for on his part as a web admin. If its been 6 years, that is a lot of time to hold a grudge against someone without giving them any sort of second chance. You people can say that he can run his website however he wants, that is true. But the approach he took is not very web admin-like.
BoostedE21 05-17-2007, 10:59 AM I think the hardest part about trying to run a web forum is to pick the difference between what a person is trying to say. Its hard to tell if they are being a prick or if they are just debating because you can't hear the tonal qualities of their voice. So he might have assumed you meant it one way...
But regardless of past mistakes, the quick ban was uncalled for on his part as a web admin. If its been 6 years, that is a lot of time to hold a grudge against someone without giving them any sort of second chance. You people can say that he can run his website however he wants, that is true. But the approach he took is not very web admin-like.
But see, even six years ago, i was given no reason as to why i was banned, he just didnt like my opinion and banned me, i guess i wasnt the only one. If you are going to run a site for a community, you treat people fairly and you give them warnings, yeah he can run it the way he wants, but come on, what he does is childish plain and simple.
jrcook320 05-17-2007, 11:04 AM French Connection United Kingdom that site.
http://www.dexigner.com/images/content/news/2272.jpg
It's attitudes like this that probably got you banned, Matt. I think you're a cool guy and all, but I would ban you too if you acted like this on my forum. Now quit wasting our time here.
autox320 05-17-2007, 11:24 AM Apparently I heard that same thing a few times at bimmerfest. Now, I'm worried since I have the same rings...
you guys never heard my rant on them? and my smoke pics? lol wasn't pretty, but good luck with those
my buddy had a 3000gt and never made it far after break in either
just can't make the power they claim if you can't get the rings to seat in the first place
save your money and stay stock deeves or JE standard rings
blitzed310 05-17-2007, 11:44 AM you guys never heard my rant on them? and my smoke pics? lol wasn't pretty, but good luck with those
my buddy had a 3000gt and never made it far after break in either
just can't make the power they claim if you can't get the rings to seat in the first place
save your money and stay stock deeves or JE standard rings
I wasn't aware of forums when I built my engine. The engine has 35k on it, and has excellent compression.
m3maker 05-17-2007, 11:50 AM they just jealous man..thats all..they jealous because your car is hella boosted and they wish they had theirs like yours..I met you once when there was the Old Schoold meet at the back of the Best Buy in burbank I saw your car it looked dope (meaning good)...man that was a while back...
BoostedE21 05-17-2007, 12:06 PM they just jealous man..thats all..they jealous because your car is hella boosted and they wish they had theirs like yours..I met you once when there was the Old Schoold meet at the back of the Best Buy in burbank I saw your car it looked dope (meaning good)...man that was a while back...
damn that was a long time ago....hope there will be another meet there again.:redspot
jrcook320 05-17-2007, 12:07 PM Attila, here is Fred's response:
Failure to conform to forum guidelines. Want to piss me off in a hurry? Post an image on my forum that belongs on a wide screen TV. Two of the three images were huge, I first edited the post, removed them and sent a PM informing him of the problem. I then checked to see if his profile was filled out and as specifically requested in the forum registration acceptance email and as suspected, nothing was filled out. The more I thought about it, I came to the conclusion that I had made a mistake allowing someone like that another chance to access to our Information Group. Key word there is "Group". I do not run an E21 community. It's a group of selected, mature individuals that share a common interest. After reviewing his post on Bimmerforums this morning, I know I made the right decision.
Just because an individual owns an E21 it does not give them the right to plant themselves where ever they want on the internet. bmw320i.com is a non-revenue generating web site funded solely by me and I exercise the right to determine who is allowed access to the forums. Obviously some don't like those terms. In short, if someone doesn’t like the way I run my website, I suggest they go somewhere else.
- Fred
It would appear that he just plain doesn't like you and you didn't make enough of an attempt to play by the rules. And I would guess that this thread has sealed the deal. Sorry.
BoostedE21 05-17-2007, 12:14 PM Attila, here is Fred's response:
It would appear that he just plain doesn't like you and you didn't make enough of an attempt to play by the rules. And I would guess that this thread has sealed the deal. Sorry.
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
I wasnt even signed on for more then 5 hours and i get banned :lol, shit i was at work when i registered, i didnt even have time to access the profile to fill it all out, dont you think one should give a person more then hours to fill out what he asked for. The pics were not that big either, they were the ones CA Matt posted in the detail thread, so you can see the pics are NOT big. Sent a PM, i never got a chance to even see what he wrote LOL..seems like Freddy boy here is jealous or is still butt hurt that i proved him wrong six years ago....oh well, not like i was gonig to be that active on that site anyways, and if i wanted to, i'm sure i could get in by other means, but i wont waste my time. Oh and he is talking about being mature lmao.........
Man that was a good laugh, thanx JR. :rofl
jrcook320 05-17-2007, 12:16 PM It appears that the mistake you made was posting too large of a pic and not filling out your profile per the registration email's instructions. I posted too large a pic once cause I forgot and he just removed it. I never post pics there anymore cause its not worth the hassle of sizing them down.
Here is what the email reads:
When you receive the computer-generated password used to log into our members area of the forums, please remember that the username and password are case sensitive. You may wish to login and change your password to something easier to remember. This can be done by going to the My Home section of the forums, then click on Edit to the right of the personal information part of the Main Configuration. While your there, please fill out the Edit profile page with as much information as you feel comfortable with. Letting the other members know a little about your geographical location and some information about your vehicle is helpful when posting to the boards on the forum.
"As you feel comfortable with"? What if you're not comfortable with filling out any personal info in your profile?
BoostedE21 05-17-2007, 12:20 PM It appears that the mistake you made was posting too large of a pic and not filling out your profile per the registration email's instructions. I posted too large a pic once cause I forgot and he just removed it. I never post pics there anymore cause its not worth the hassle of sizing them down.
Here is what the email reads:
"As you feel comfortable with"? What if you're not comfortable with filling out any personal info in your profile?
Bingo, not to mention, if its their FIRST DAY or even FIRST few hours, dont you think they should be given some time to fill it out. Heck i was gonig to go into detail cause i know alot of people would be asking question, so this way, they refer to my profile and everything is right there. Not to mention, people have lives so things come up and they cant do things right then and there.... :rofl
blitzed310 05-17-2007, 01:01 PM I think this thread should be put to rest now. We heard the argument, and now its just the same thing over and over.
BoostedE21 05-17-2007, 01:07 PM I think this thread should be put to rest now. We heard the argument, and now its just the same thing over and over.
I think you should have a glass of "shut the hell up"........;)
blitzed310 05-17-2007, 01:35 PM Serve yourself. I'm not the one crying like a little girl.
BoostedE21 05-17-2007, 01:44 PM Serve yourself. I'm not the one crying like a little girl.
please, i aint crying over nothing....would you still like a cup tho.....:D
MR 325 05-17-2007, 01:47 PM Wow this guy is a douche. Sometimes you just have to feel sorry for ignorant people.
BoostedE21 05-17-2007, 01:54 PM Wow this guy is a douche. Sometimes you just have to feel sorry for ignorant people.
+1
uberpanzer 05-17-2007, 02:38 PM I KNEW mentioning Jordan would eventually get some e30 lurkers to chime in. :D
MR 325 05-17-2007, 03:18 PM I KNEW mentioning Jordan would eventually get some e30 lurkers to chime in. :D
Hahaha. I actually go through the E21 forum pretty often, I don't really know why! :)
BoostedE21 05-17-2007, 04:38 PM BTW this was taken from their website:
"The E21 series BMW 320i Web site has been developed for those
individuals that take pride in owning, restoring and maintaining
these finely crafted classic automobiles."
Someone is contradicting themselves. :rolleyes
jrcook320 05-17-2007, 05:08 PM I think CJ was right, lets stop complaining about this.
Here's the established facts mixed in with my opinion:
I think Fred has a great site and great products and is an asset to the e21 community. He is the boss at 320i.com and can ban whoever he wants for whatever reason he wants.
Do I think he banned you prematurely and for no good reason? Yes. I think most of us will agree that your large pictures and lack of a filled out profile, or even the fact that he thinks you're a spoiled brat who's daddy built his car for him, are all silly reasons to ban you. It appears to me that he had a distaste for you from the start.
Do I think that you have convinced him that banning you was the right choice? Yes. Coming on here and blasting him and his site was an immature response, and that is the sort of attitude that he doesn't care to deal with on his site.
If you really wanted to be on his site, you could have emailed him and asked for an explanation and a 2nd (or 3rd) chance in a courteous and professional manner, even though he may not have treated you with the same respect.
*end of thread*
BoostedE21 05-17-2007, 05:20 PM I think CJ was right, lets stop complaining about this.
Here's the established facts mixed in with my opinion:
I think Fred has a great site and great products and is an asset to the e21 community. He is the boss at 320i.com and can ban whoever he wants for whatever reason he wants.
Do I think he banned you prematurely and for no good reason? Yes. I think most of us will agree that your large pictures and lack of a filled out profile, or even the fact that he thinks you're a spoiled brat who's daddy built his car for him, are all silly reasons to ban you. It appears to me that he had a distaste for you from the start.
Do I think that you have convinced him that banning you was the right choice? Yes. Coming on here and blasting him and his site was an immature response, and that is the sort of attitude that he doesn't care to deal with on his site.
If you really wanted to be on his site, you could have emailed him and asked for an explanation and a 2nd (or 3rd) chance in a courteous and professional manner, even though he may not have treated you with the same respect.
*end of thread*
First, i dont care for him or that site, as i see it, he doesnt really do anything for the comunity but buy $8 parts and sells them for a lot more. Secondly, he may think that daddy built the car, but fact of the matter is, i put in as much time and effort as daddy did. Third, i tried to e-mail him this second time and guess what, i got the e-mail returned to me saying that the e-mail was a bad e-mail address.
Bashing his site, i dont care. As i see it, he really doesnt do much but ban people that know more then him and have alot nicer and faster cars then him (jealousy is a bitch huh freddy boy)....as i see it Freddy is immature.
This thread can now be locked. I think he had enough bashing and peope can see how he is really like.
MattE21 05-17-2007, 05:46 PM http://supercanuk.gnn.tv/_cgi/_cache/scale-center-middle-360-480-no-%5B-%5D_var%5B-%5Dblogs%5B-%5D17706-1d68e97f5e8457375ed687e587dabe78.jpg
jrcook320 05-17-2007, 06:10 PM yes, it is serious business. :lol
Attila, just to set the record straight the whole spoiled brat line is not my opinion. Just quoting.
Broly238 05-17-2007, 06:56 PM :deadhorse:
I'm just going to close this because nothing more will come out of this thread. I'm sorry about your situation Attila, banning you the second time because you made a picture too big and didn't fill out some stupid info is not very cool. But regardless, I think this thread should be over with.
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