Don't feel like making a huge post, but it was a fast little bugger, no comparison up high though. We went twice from a 40 roll I easily walked 5 or 6 cars by 120 both times. :dunno I guess I was expecting more for a 5.4 Claimed 0-60 & 14.0 1/4 mile (C&D May '07)

was still faster then I thought, definitely a sleeper.

:thumbup: to who ever you were though

Yeah Mazdaspeed 3's are actually pretty quick actually & i know your not stock either so but I will say they will pull a stock E36 m3 with no problem i'm sure. Now if you raced a Mazdaspeed 6 which is pretty much a major comparison vs a EVO 9 for prime example but good runs.

mazdaspeed 3 specs.
ENGINE
Type: turbocharged and intercooled inline-4, aluminum block and head
Bore x stroke: 3.44 x 3.70 in, 87.5 x 94.0mm
Displacement: 138 cu in, 2261cc
Compression ratio: 9.5:1
Fuel-delivery system: direct injection
Turbocharger: Hitachi-Warner K04
Maximum boost pressure: 15.6 psi
Valve gear: chain-driven double overhead cams, 4 valves per cylinder, variable intake-valve timing
Power (SAE net): 263 bhp @ 5500 rpm
Torque (SAE net): 280 lb-ft @ 3000 rpm
Redline: 6700 rpm

The Mazdaspeed 3 is actually a little quicker than the Mazdaspeed 6. In fact I would say that the Mazdaspeed6 is probably better competition for the Subaru Legacy GT. I haven't raced one or anything like that with my Evo but I've read a lot online about how evenly the Mazdaspeed6 and the Legacy GT stack up in nearly every perfomance category.

Yeah Mazdaspeed 3's are actually pretty quick actually & i know your not stock either so but I will say they will pull a stock E36 m3 with no problem i'm sure. Now if you raced a Mazdaspeed 6 which is pretty much a major comparison vs a EVO 9 for prime example but good runs.

mazdaspeed 3 specs.
ENGINE
Type: turbocharged and intercooled inline-4, aluminum block and head
Bore x stroke: 3.44 x 3.70 in, 87.5 x 94.0mm
Displacement: 138 cu in, 2261cc
Compression ratio: 9.5:1
Fuel-delivery system: direct injection
Turbocharger: Hitachi-Warner K04
Maximum boost pressure: 15.6 psi
Valve gear: chain-driven double overhead cams, 4 valves per cylinder, variable intake-valve timing
Power (SAE net): 263 bhp @ 5500 rpm
Torque (SAE net): 280 lb-ft @ 3000 rpm
Redline: 6700 rpm
I only have an m50 manifold, and from a roll at around 45 ish, I've walked them pretty good..

They need to be short shifted at around 6000rpms because they really die after that. 5 or 6 cars is excessive though so I think the driver wasn't up to par because they have tight gearing a 6 speed gearbox. 5 or 6 cars is a raping for two similarly powered vehicles. Good kill though, they are nice cars

I only have an m50 manifold, and from a roll at around 45 ish, I've walked them pretty good..

Sure you arnt thinking of just the plain mazda3?

Sure you arnt thinking of just the plain mazda3?
I've only raced one, and yes it was a mazdaspeed 3s.

How much power do they put down anyways? I heard around 210-215whp?

I've only raced one, and yes it was a mazdaspeed 3s.

How much power do they put down anyways? I heard around 210-215whp?

I recall about 235fwhp and about 270fwtq with 93 octane. Could be wrong though.

I've only raced one, and yes it was a mazdaspeed 3s.

How much power do they put down anyways? I heard around 210-215whp?

People have dyno'd at around 250hp to the wheels(278+- at the crank). Which makes me question your claim.

Yeah Mazdaspeed 3's are actually pretty quick actually & i know your not stock either so but I will say they will pull a stock E36 m3 with no problem i'm sure. Now if you raced a Mazdaspeed 6 which is pretty much a major comparison vs a EVO 9 for prime example but good runs.

mazdaspeed 3 specs.
ENGINE
Type: turbocharged and intercooled inline-4, aluminum block and head
Bore x stroke: 3.44 x 3.70 in, 87.5 x 94.0mm
Displacement: 138 cu in, 2261cc
Compression ratio: 9.5:1
Fuel-delivery system: direct injection
Turbocharger: Hitachi-Warner K04
Maximum boost pressure: 15.6 psi
Valve gear: chain-driven double overhead cams, 4 valves per cylinder, variable intake-valve timing
Power (SAE net): 263 bhp @ 5500 rpm
Torque (SAE net): 280 lb-ft @ 3000 rpm
Redline: 6700 rpm

that makes me wonder y VW never tuned the 1.8t or 2.0t to there full potential from the factory...i bet it woulda made that many more sales

Stock I took one.

People have dyno'd at around 250hp to the wheels(278+- at the crank). Which makes me question your claim.
Really? That's quite impressive assuming they come with ~260 crank from factory.


Which makes me question your claim. Link?:stickoutt


Also, please, I do not want to be part of the arguments that occur in this section.

We lined up at a stoplight entering the ramp, driver of the mazda wanted to run, we raced up to I don't know around 90ish I had him by some and we parted ways. Simple as that.

Really? That's quite impressive assuming they come with ~260 crank from factory.


Which makes me question your claim. Link?:stickoutt


Also, please, I do not want to be part of the arguments that occur in this section.

We lined up at a stoplight entering the ramp, driver of the mazda wanted to run, we raced up to I don't know around 90ish I had him by some and we parted ways. Simple as that.

I dont have a link, the dyno is in sport car compact. (the issue with the elise vs the mr2) Even if that was a fluke, they shouldnt be putting anything less than 240 to the wheels.

Im not trying to antagonize you, it just seemed by the way you described it that you walked him by a good amount which raised a red flag. With driver error and everything I dont doubt that you did beat him, but it would probably be close.

Im not trying to antagonize you, it just seemed by the way you described it that you walked him by a good amount which raised a red flag. With driver error and everything I dont doubt that you did beat him, but it would probably be close.
It's understandable.

If the Mazda indeed puts down 240whp+ at the wheels.. Well then, props to Mazda.

Your flag made you roll hard on that Mazda Spaint! ;)

Rogo

Yeah go eco power :rofl

My secondary car is faster than you primary automobile *S* I'm glad you were able to roll on a Mini!

Do you have a video of that amazing speed?

What's eco-power?

Rogo

What's eco-power?


Im actually interested in this as well.

My secondary car is faster than you primary automobile *S* I'm glad you were able to roll on a Mini!

Do you have a video of that amazing speed?

What's eco-power?

Rogo

hahahahahahaahahahahh be careful with your words son,

No I don't have video of me driving and racing at the same time sorry not to easy shifting and filming :rofl

I do have a video of some p.o.s stage 4 saab getting is doors blown off after he was talking shit as well..? But you have probably already seen that huh.

Im actually interested in this as well.


It's something saabs have that make them faster, something born from jets :rofl

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_H_engine

Zfomg He Means Viggen The Airplane, He'll Demolish Us All

I do have a video of some p.o.s stage 4 saab getting is doors blown off after he was talking shit as well..? But you have probably already seen that huh.

No I've not seen that video. If it's a fourdoor and not a Viggen then it doesn't matter what you post-but I'll look at it and laugh at you for racing such a slug ;)

Rogo

Zfomg He Means Viggen The Airplane, He'll Demolish Us All

Why are you even posting? You don't have a car! LOL

Link?

Would you like to run on my secondary Paint?

Rogo

Why are you even posting? You don't have a car! LOL

Link?

Would you like to run on my secondary Paint?

Rogo

What makes you think I don't have a car:cool Link to what? Did i touch a nerve?

Zfomg He Means Viggen The Airplane, He'll Demolish Us All

:rofl so true

No I've not seen that video. If it's a fourdoor and not a Viggen then it doesn't matter what you post-but I'll look at it and laugh at you for racing such a slug ;)

Rogo

hahahaha oh so sorry it wasn't a viggen o no It had 2 extra doors but still apparently put down 300hp ooo k :rolleyes

http://videos.streetfire.net/search/bsaint/0/f24c129b-783d-4e36-b70b-ec7558cf2ac0.htm

Why are you even posting? You don't have a car! LOL

Link?

Would you like to run on my secondary Paint?

Rogo

He might not a car, but that doesn't make the fact that you're talking shit with a Viggen any less funny.

He might not a car, but that doesn't make the fact that you're talking shit with a Viggen any less funny.

:alright

It's ok most saab owners are like this.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=hDLS57tssQU :rofl

Viggen 0-60 is ever so impressive as well 6.4 so wait...? the Mazda speed is faster then you. :confused

:rofl so true



hahahaha oh so sorry it wasn't a viggen o no It had 2 extra doors but still apparently put down 300hp ooo k :rolleyes

http://videos.streetfire.net/search/bsaint/0/f24c129b-783d-4e36-b70b-ec7558cf2ac0.htm


LOL that wasnt even a race ur m3 killed that SAAB or SOB loll

LOL that wasnt even a race ur m3 killed that SAAB or SOB loll

But DOOOD! it was a stage IIII lol

Wait for viggen boy he is prob trying to call his other saab buddys :rolleyes

lets just back on topic before this turns into another BMW vs another car manufacturer thread.

:thumbup:

It hasn't stopped Rogozhin from PMing me fun hate mail hahahahah what an mature person. :rolleyes

in the words of the immortal george carlin:

"saaaab??? who would want that finnish piece of s*** saaaaaaaab?"

in the words of the immortal george carlin:

"saaaab??? who would want that finnish piece of s*** saaaaaaaab?"

lol the Old Jet motors were made by Volvo and now Saabs are made by GM lol talk about quality :redspot

anyways mazdaspeed 3 are fast cars, wouldn't mind having one myself.

good kill op!!:buttrock

anyways mazdaspeed 3 are fast cars, wouldn't mind having one myself.

good kill op!!:buttrock

Thank you, :buttrock I heard they were fast and a good match for a stock M3 so I was expecting a good fight, he held there with me from 40 to about 70ish then after I just kept pulling I wanted to keep going 140+ but he kept flashing his high Beams,

Id say that the the Speed3 was probably a a good match for you. Power to power not knowing what your car actually puts down...but here are dyno results from Automobile Mag on the speed3.

http://www.automobilemag.com/features/0610_gti_civic_mazdaspeed3_dyno/mazdaspeed_3.html

Id say you out drove him! Good Kill. :buttrock

Are you SURE it was 6 cars? 6 cars, if you don't realize, is a LOT. That's at least 1.5-2 bus lengths.




I want an MS3 now.

Are you SURE it was 6 cars? 6 cars, if you don't realize, is a LOT. That's at least 1.5-2 bus lengths.




I want an MS3 now.

Holy cow! what kinda car are you talkin about? A stretch limo? :eek:

Or maybe Bsaint was talkin 6 Mini car lengths (about .5 buses). :D

Please don't take any of that seriously, just playin around.;)

BTW Bsaint, awesome car, love the look!
Oh, and nice kill.:embarrasm

Holy cow! what kinda car are you talkin about? A stretch limo? :eek:

Or maybe Bsaint was talkin 6 Mini car lengths (about .5 buses). :D

Please don't take any of that seriously, just playin around.;)



I dunno, if you think about it, a bus isn't that much bigger than 3 average cars. People over-estimate the length of a bus I think :redspot

I dunno, if you think about it, a bus isn't that much bigger than 3 average cars. People over-estimate the length of a bus I think :redspot

a bus is about 2-3 car lengths so yes I am sure it was 6.

I rarely over exaggerate is my old races video... the car is not very stock

http://videos.streetfire.net/search/bsaint/0/1c9ce4b9-7560-46f3-8ff1-52d773e73ba0.htm

and that was from Jan last year, it is a bit faster now.

BTW Bsaint, awesome car, love the look!
Oh, and nice kill.:embarrasm


Thanks Bro:buttrock

I only have an m50 manifold, and from a roll at around 45 ish, I've walked them pretty good..

It's called break-in. Maybe if you had ever bought a NEW car you might know what that means.

It's called break-in. Maybe if you had ever bought a NEW car you might know what that means.

Breaking in the corolla must have been a pain.

It's called break-in. Maybe if you had ever bought a NEW car you might know what that means.
Hehe. I am not going to say anything because I think you've had enough pain for the rest of your life having to own a turbo Corolla.

Why so pissed panda bear?

It's called break-in. Maybe if you had ever bought a NEW car you might know what that means.

yeah and any smart person knows as long as the engine is warmed up it is alright.

What's The Best Way To Break-In A New Engine ??
The Short Answer: Run it Hard !

Nowadays, the piston ring seal is really what the break in process is all about. Contrary to popular belief, piston rings don't seal the combustion pressure by spring tension. Ring tension is necessary only to "scrape" the oil to prevent it from entering the combustion chamber.

If you think about it, the ring exerts maybe 5-10 lbs of spring tension against the cylinder wall ...
How can such a small amount of spring tension seal against thousands of
PSI (Pounds Per Square Inch) of combustion pressure ??
Of course it can't.

Best ways to Break in an Engine

1) on a dyno
2) on the street, or off road (Motocross or Snowmobile.)
3) on the racetrack

Q: What is the most common cause of engine problems ???
A: Failure to:
Warm the engine up completely before running it hard !!!

Q: What is the second most common cause of engine problems ???
A: An easy break in !!!

Ironically, an "easy break in" is not at all what it seems. By trying to "protect" the engine, the exact opposite happens, as leaky rings continue to contaminate your engine oil for the rest of the life of your engine !!

But hey, if you owned a performance car you would know that :rofl

Look at my car. 144,000+ miles later, runs stronger then the day it was purchased.

It's called break-in. Maybe if you had ever bought a NEW car you might know what that means.

I highly suggest reigning in the attacks and piss-poor attitude if you wish to remain on this site. Consider this your warning, and do feel free to respond to me with your usual combative ire, as it will only expedite what I suspect is the ultimate and inevitable conclusion to your presence on Bimmerforums. :)

yeah and any smart person knows as long as the engine is warmed up it is alright.

What's The Best Way To Break-In A New Engine ??
The Short Answer: Run it Hard !

Nowadays, the piston ring seal is really what the break in process is all about. Contrary to popular belief, piston rings don't seal the combustion pressure by spring tension. Ring tension is necessary only to "scrape" the oil to prevent it from entering the combustion chamber.

If you think about it, the ring exerts maybe 5-10 lbs of spring tension against the cylinder wall ...
How can such a small amount of spring tension seal against thousands of
PSI (Pounds Per Square Inch) of combustion pressure ??
Of course it can't.

Best ways to Break in an Engine

1) on a dyno
2) on the street, or off road (Motocross or Snowmobile.)
3) on the racetrack

Q: What is the most common cause of engine problems ???
A: Failure to:
Warm the engine up completely before running it hard !!!

Q: What is the second most common cause of engine problems ???
A: An easy break in !!!

Ironically, an "easy break in" is not at all what it seems. By trying to "protect" the engine, the exact opposite happens, as leaky rings continue to contaminate your engine oil for the rest of the life of your engine !!

But hey, if you owned a performance car you would know that :rofl

Look at my car. 144,000+ miles later, runs stronger then the day it was purchased.



Bull-sh^t.


I trust what my manual says. After all, if their objective is to spare warranty issues and the like.


BMW and Porsche engineers likely know their cars better than we do.

Turbos, by nature, have reduced operating ranges, but the Mazdaspeed 3 seems to be particularly susceptible to that limitation. It has prodigious torque in the midrange, but the engine feels anemic below 3000 rpm or above 5500. Honda's normally aspirated Si makes at least 85% of its maximum torque from 2000 to its redline. That means that if you floor the Honda's loud pedal anywhere between two and eight grand, you'll have at your disposal at least 85% of the maximum quoted torque. VW's turbo GTI will hand over at least 70% of its peak number at any time from two grand to its own redline. The Mazda is far behind the others at 20%.

From the link posted of the dyno's. That essentially explains it. No area under the curve. Nice peak but it doesn't last long.

The turbo has enough to flow some air in the high rpms but I did read somewhere that the ecu pulls all the boost above 6000rpms or so for some reason. They are trying to come up with a way to keep it alive up there. The turbo isn't that tiny where it should lose 100 hp and trq between 5500rpms and 6700rpms,even if it is a 2.3 liter. When they figure it out, the car will be even quicker. No more short shifting ftw.

:rofl so true



hahahaha oh so sorry it wasn't a viggen o no It had 2 extra doors but still apparently put down 300hp ooo k :rolleyes

http://videos.streetfire.net/search/bsaint/0/f24c129b-783d-4e36-b70b-ec7558cf2ac0.htm


I like at the 1.40 mark or so (last race) the passenger of the SAAB rolls up his window like its goning to make a difference. AND btw a few MS3s around here are getting bunch of HP with a top mount intercooler change, CAI, exhaust and TXS downpipe change. Close to 300whp and 330+ ftlbs. The car weights 3000+ and the torque makes it difficult to launch and holding gears past 6000 wastes time. Driven right-they are FAST.

Hey, mazdaspeed 3's commercial is better than most cars out there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9uEAl6DjVQ :)

Heh, I like the MS3, too bad it's a FWD though.

I highly suggest reigning in the attacks and piss-poor attitude if you wish to remain on this site. Consider this your warning, and do feel free to respond to me with your usual combative ire, as it will only expedite what I suspect is the ultimate and inevitable conclusion to your presence on Bimmerforums. :)

My attitude is perfectly appropriate.

yeah and any smart person knows as long as the engine is warmed up it is alright.

What's The Best Way To Break-In A New Engine ??
The Short Answer: Run it Hard !

Nowadays, the piston ring seal is really what the break in process is all about. Contrary to popular belief, piston rings don't seal the combustion pressure by spring tension. Ring tension is necessary only to "scrape" the oil to prevent it from entering the combustion chamber.

If you think about it, the ring exerts maybe 5-10 lbs of spring tension against the cylinder wall ...
How can such a small amount of spring tension seal against thousands of
PSI (Pounds Per Square Inch) of combustion pressure ??
Of course it can't.

Best ways to Break in an Engine

1) on a dyno
2) on the street, or off road (Motocross or Snowmobile.)
3) on the racetrack

Q: What is the most common cause of engine problems ???
A: Failure to:
Warm the engine up completely before running it hard !!!

Q: What is the second most common cause of engine problems ???
A: An easy break in !!!

Ironically, an "easy break in" is not at all what it seems. By trying to "protect" the engine, the exact opposite happens, as leaky rings continue to contaminate your engine oil for the rest of the life of your engine !!

But hey, if you owned a performance car you would know that :rofl

Look at my car. 144,000+ miles later, runs stronger then the day it was purchased.

BLAH BLAH BLAH why don't you fax your paper on "how to properly break in a new engine" to the Mazda owner who should've won that race, I'm sure he's DYING to get a piece of your mind.

Breaking in the corolla must have been a pain.

Much like your NEON.

Hehe. I am not going to say anything because I think you've had enough pain for the rest of your life having to own a turbo Corolla.

Why so pissed panda bear?

You just did say something.


Where is the "Great North". Canada?

BLAH BLAH BLAH why don't you fax your paper on "how to properly break in a new engine" to the Mazda owner who should've won that race, I'm sure he's DYING to get a piece of your mind.

Should of won that race.... ? why because he has a slower trap speed then me in 1/4 not as much top end and weighs more... yeah good luck with that sparky

I like at the 1.40 mark or so (last race) the passenger of the SAAB rolls up his window like its goning to make a difference. AND btw a few MS3s around here are getting bunch of HP with a top mount intercooler change, CAI, exhaust and TXS downpipe change. Close to 300whp and 330+ ftlbs. The car weights 3000+ and the torque makes it difficult to launch and holding gears past 6000 wastes time. Driven right-they are FAST.


Oh no doubt at all, there was a guy running 13.10s at the track easily capable of breaking into the 12s, not sure his mods though, it sounded beast.

Much like your NEON.

I'm sorry but he knows what his car is, even pokes fun of it in his signature... You however try to class up your car by adding turbo in front of it under cars... like we are all so impressed. IT IS A COROLLA!!! I don't care if you dropped a jet engine in the thing, it is a p.o.s and it fits the owner. We welcome any car owner on bf.c and respect anything or anyone who shows us respect, you do not. All of your posts are negative and you have no respect for anyone. You will go no where in life with your attitude and trolling the Kill section of a BMW will not help you sex life. Get out and shut up.

Done with you.

Don't feel like making a huge post, but it was a fast little bugger, no comparison up high though. We went twice from a 40 roll I easily walked 5 or 6 cars by 120 both times. :dunno I guess I was expecting more for a 5.4 Claimed 0-60 & 14.0 1/4 mile (C&D May '07)

was still faster then I thought, definitely a sleeper.

:thumbup: to who ever you were though


they are quick little things but their numbers and such are strange they are slower than their performance numbers suggest. Although slap a bigger turbo and some other stuff on there and crank out about 350hp, i think you would have a death trap.

Much like your NEON.


Yeah, but the corolla is a chick car. The neon is a........oh wait. :D

Should of won that race.... ? why because he has a slower trap speed then me in 1/4 not as much top end and weighs more... yeah good luck with that sparky




Oh no doubt at all, there was a guy running 13.10s at the track easily capable of breaking into the 12s, not sure his mods though, it sounded beast.



I'm sorry but he knows what his car is, even pokes fun of it in his signature... You however try to class up your car by adding turbo in front of it under cars... like we are all so impressed. IT IS A COROLLA!!! I don't care if you dropped a jet engine in the thing, it is a p.o.s and it fits the owner. We welcome any car owner on bf.c and respect anything or anyone who shows us respect, you do not. All of your posts are negative and you have no respect for anyone. You will go no where in life with your attitude and trolling the Kill section of a BMW will not help you sex life. Get out and shut up.

Done with you.

I have no respect for YOU specifically.

What should i call my car? Is it not, if fact, a turbo corolla? If any car needs to be made fun of it's yours for trying so hard to be fast while not succeeding.

It's interesting that every time i post ANYTHING people like you have to degenerate the conversation into a discussion of the merits of my car, the corolla. I will say what i want, when i want, where i want and you my friend will listen, because obviously you have NOTHING BETTER TO DO.


Oh and why is it that BMW guys always tie cars into their sex life? Do you really need that car to be attractive? Wait don't answer that, I know the truth.

nice kill, nice car I like the look bsaint.

all I know was after having my head rebuilt I was told that I had to wait 1000 miles before hitting my redline (7000rpm.). besides that I could drive it the way a BMW should be driven.

on RACE motor the bit of information Bsaint posted is true. On our motors when we break them in we fill them up with fluds and run them at idle till we get operating oil temperature. Let them cool for 4 hours and then we run it again this time holding rpm any where between 3000 and 4500 till we get temp. Then we dyno the car.
ON a street motor it can be a little different. but also remember they recommend those long break in periods to assure nothing might happen. They leave them selves a large buffer or safe zone. On a brand new car from a factory i would be more worried about hors the engine is running rather than miles. If the engine has run for 3 hours at normal driving use it should be ok for periodic full throttle use. and after 10 hours of normal driving use with the occasional to red line run it should be ready to have the ever living snot beat out of it.

My attitude is perfectly appropriate.

I will say what i want, when i want, where i want and you my friend will listen.

http://www.ziplink.net/~ctroiane/pics/peace.gif

http://www.ziplink.net/~ctroiane/pics/peace.gif

:rofl

PEEAAACCEEE!

:rofl

PEEAAACCEEE!

:D

We can dance if we want to
We can leave your friends behind
'Cause your friends don't dance and if they don't dance
Well they're no friends of mine
I say, we can go where we want to
A place where they will never find
And we can act like we come from out of this world
Leave the real one far behind
And we can dance

:redspot lol

We can dance if we want to
We can leave your friends behind
'Cause your friends don't dance and if they don't dance
Well they're no friends of mine
I say, we can go where we want to
A place where they will never find
And we can act like we come from out of this world
Leave the real one far behind
And we can dance

:redspot lol

I forgot what that song is called.

I forgot what that song is called.

Safety Dance, by Men With Hats lol

I have no respect for YOU specifically.

What should i call my car? Is it not, if fact, a turbo corolla? If any car needs to be made fun of it's yours for trying so hard to be fast while not succeeding.

It's interesting that every time i post ANYTHING people like you have to degenerate the conversation into a discussion of the merits of my car, the corolla. I will say what i want, when i want, where i want and you my friend will listen, because obviously you have NOTHING BETTER TO DO.


Oh and why is it that BMW guys always tie cars into their sex life? Do you really need that car to be attractive? Wait don't answer that, I know the truth.

Everytime I read a post from this guy, I remind myself of the walking, posting, jokes that infect our hobby. Sorry but your a nuisence to the wise, educated, well respect car enthusiast community. Your whole purpose on this board is strictly to entertain those who you will only be like after years of maturity. You make my day with your ingnorance. I love it..keep comming. Taking some time off work to read your responses are a delight to mine and everyone elses civil liftstyle..its like reality T.V on Bimmerforums. Your attitude will get you no where in life, your respect levels are below my shit after it goes through the Atlanta sewage system, and your lack of knowledge of reality is exactly why you drive, turbo and modify a 2001 Toyota Corolla.

I have no respect for YOU specifically.

What should i call my car? Is it not, if fact, a turbo corolla? If any car needs to be made fun of it's yours for trying so hard to be fast while not succeeding.

It's interesting that every time i post ANYTHING people like you have to degenerate the conversation into a discussion of the merits of my car, the corolla. I will say what i want, when i want, where i want and you my friend will listen, because obviously you have NOTHING BETTER TO DO.


Oh and why is it that BMW guys always tie cars into their sex life? Do you really need that car to be attractive? Wait don't answer that, I know the truth.

Everytime I read a post from this guy, I remind myself of the walking, posting, jokes that infect our hobby. Sorry but your a nuisence to the wise, educated, well respect car enthusiast community. Your whole purpose on this board is strictly to entertain those who you only be like after years of maturity. You make my day with your ingnorance. I love it..keep comming. Taking some time off work to read your responses are a delight to mine and everyone elses civil liftstyle..its like reality T.V on Bimmerforums. Your attitude will get you no where in life, your respect levels are below my shit after it goes through the Atlanta sewage system, and your lack of knowledge of reality is exactly why you drive, turbo and modify a 2001 Toyota Corolla. I suggest you leave this board, and come back with a new perspective. Or...Stay on the boards and watch. Some wise words i'm sure you'll take for grantid


Haha some entertainment. This guy is a real winner. Some of the most quote worthy stuff ever said on Bf.c


If any car needs to be made fun of it's yours for trying so hard to be fast while not succeeding.
:lol:lol:lol:lol
Hahahahah. I'm sure thats what he's trying to do. He's tryign so hard to be fast, look at him investing in turbo's, running drag radials..his cars not set up for suspension or anything..

Don't shoot me guys :ak but I recently replaced my beloved '95 M3 with a Speed3 after 13 years of devotion.

The Speed3 is a hoot....I believe from a roll, stock for stock, a Speed3 is a little quicker than a E36 M3 largely because of the low-end torque. As rpms rise, it is largely a wash. I do not believe a near-stock M3 could walk a Speed3 unless the Speed3 driver spun the motor past 6k (easy to do if you're not paying attention) and lost boost and power.

It's ok most saab owners are like this.

Viggen 0-60 is ever so impressive as well 6.4 so wait...? the Mazda speed is faster then you.

My father just bought a Saab identical to the first one pictured in the beginning of the video clip.

Ironically.. I've walked a few Jetta and a couple rich kid Civics all the way through the gears in it. Those things are heavy as hell but they have a peaky midrange torque like my 318i and it's kinda fun to mob around on

Slow as all fuckin hell though...

Safety Dance, by Men With Hats lol

Lol, it's Men Without Hats.

And that song is on the CD in my car right now.

My father just bought a Saab identical to the first one pictured in the beginning of the video clip.

Ironically.. I've walked a few Jetta and a couple rich kid Civics all the way through the gears in it. Those things are heavy as hell but they have a peaky midrange torque like my 318i and it's kinda fun to mob around on

Slow as all f'in hell though...

yeah they are, I drove a new sky redline today, I guess I was expecting too much thing was laggy and slow as balls same gm/saab turbo motor in the 9-3s exc.

Haha, I don't think that guy that got suspended realized CMT is a moderator...Idiot.

Okay, a little off topic, but I am getting tired of playing in this global automobile horsepower race. Just when you buy a nice fast car, the next year, there is a less expensive, with more HP and faster car for less money out there. Ten years ago, 240HP was teh sh#t, now it's not even a contender. I guess my next car is going to have to have at least 450 crank HP just to stay in the game.

[quote=trevordr;9556842]I have no respect for YOU specifically.

What should i call my car?[quote] ....................I've got it! We'll call it, The Turbrolla. :buttrock

Okay, a little off topic, but I am getting tired of playing in this global automobile horsepower race. Just when you buy a nice fast car, the next year, there is a less expensive, with more HP and faster car for less money out there. Ten years ago, 240HP was teh sh#t, now it's not even a contender. I guess my next car is going to have to have at least 450 crank HP just to stay in the game.

+1

makes me sad, but at the same time happy when I can beat some of these new modded srt-4s and evos and such, but throw a couple grand in mods and you have some 400+ hp car :(

makes me sad, but at the same time happy when I can beat some of these new modded srt-4s and evos and such, but throw a couple grand in mods and you have some 400+ hp car :(

Why would you feel sad about the thousands you've spent making an E36 faster than a stock neon? ;)

Rogo

Sorry for the thread resurrection but I don't get on here too often. I have both cars in question and just so happened to dyno both of them last weekend. With the Conforti intake/Euro HFM/chip kit, my 95 M3 put down 220 hp / 210 tq. On the same dyno, our bone stock MS3 put down 259 hp / 290 tq. Eventually I will run them head to head (with a friend driving one of them of course) but judging by how they accelerate, the M3 would take the MS3 to 60 but once the MS3 gets into 3rd, it will walk away. It also pulls harder in 4th and 5th than the M3. The MS3 is a difficult car to accelerate fast in 1st and 2nd gear, even with the factory 58% in 1st and 90% in 2nd power reduction. The car runs VERY rich and power drops off at 6k rpm. It has its quirks but the MS3 is an amazing car for just $22k (sport pkg).

my bsaint can beat anyone =]

259 hp / 290 tq? Damn, that's nice, too bad it's FWD.

Bombbuilder...wow, what a coincidence. :eek: My '95 M3 also had a Conforti Euro Intake....and now I have a Speed3...also with the Sport package. Also agree with your assesment. The low-end torque of the MS3 is pretty :eyecrazy

Should of won that race.... ? why because he has a slower trap speed then me in 1/4 not as much top end and weighs more... yeah good luck with that sparky




Oh no doubt at all, there was a guy running 13.10s at the track easily capable of breaking into the 12s, not sure his mods though, it sounded beast.



I'm sorry but he knows what his car is, even pokes fun of it in his signature... You however try to class up your car by adding turbo in front of it under cars... like we are all so impressed. IT IS A COROLLA!!! I don't care if you dropped a jet engine in the thing, it is a p.o.s and it fits the owner. We welcome any car owner on bf.c and respect anything or anyone who shows us respect, you do not. All of your posts are negative and you have no respect for anyone. You will go no where in life with your attitude and trolling the Kill section of a BMW will not help you sex life. Get out and shut up.

Done with you.

LOL:lol

Why would you feel sad about the thousands you've spent making an E36 faster than a stock neon? ;)

Rogo

a couple of mods in the neon and its faster than your e46, now does that suck or what. you probably spent like 40K on it too.


p.s. i think youre pathetic and you try making fun of other people online because u dont really have a social life outside the internet. its easy to act cool online, but harder in real life... am i right rogo, its ok... pretend im doctor phil and just trying to help you out with life ;)

People have dyno'd at around 250hp to the wheels(278+- at the crank). Which makes me question your claim.

216 whp and 245 ft lbs.............but i've seen one run in high 13s;)

216 whp and 245 ft lbs.............but i've seen one run in high 13s;)

Sorry for the thread resurrection but I don't get on here too often. I have both cars in question and just so happened to dyno both of them last weekend. With the Conforti intake/Euro HFM/chip kit, my 95 M3 put down 220 hp / 210 tq. On the same dyno, our bone stock MS3 put down 259 hp / 290 tq. $22k

:confused

Sorry for the thread resurrection but I don't get on here too often. I have both cars in question and just so happened to dyno both of them last weekend. With the Conforti intake/Euro HFM/chip kit, my 95 M3 put down 220 hp / 210 tq. On the same dyno, our bone stock MS3 put down 259 hp / 290 tq. Eventually I will run them head to head (with a friend driving one of them of course) but judging by how they accelerate, the M3 would take the MS3 to 60 but once the MS3 gets into 3rd, it will walk away. It also pulls harder in 4th and 5th than the M3. The MS3 is a difficult car to accelerate fast in 1st and 2nd gear, even with the factory 58% in 1st and 90% in 2nd power reduction. The car runs VERY rich and power drops off at 6k rpm. It has its quirks but the MS3 is an amazing car for just $22k (sport pkg).

I have put lengths on slightly modded E36 M3s and come down to a drivers race with most stock E46 M3s , but nice owning both :alright

my bsaint can beat anyone =]

:buttrock

Why would you feel sad about the thousands you've spent making an E36 faster than a stock neon? ;)

Rogo


I Haven't put thousands into my car, but I guess your right I could buy a 4 door family sedan and pretend its fast... I guess it could be worse.

:rolleyes

:confused A little :confused? well, here's a vid and dyno result;)

mazdaspeed 3 dyno (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rberk07Lozs)

here's another one with race pipe and intake
Modded mazdaspeed 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7oE2DM1-sQ)

a couple of mods in the neon and its faster than your e46, now does that suck or what. you probably spent like 40K on it too.


p.s. i think youre pathetic and you try making fun of other people online because u dont really have a social life outside the internet. its easy to act cool online, but harder in real life... am i right rogo, its ok... pretend im doctor phil and just trying to help you out with life ;)He's going to have a tough time replying. I think he was shown the door.:handclap

He's going to have a tough time replying. I think he was shown the door.:handclap

i know, ive been waiting about a week and some days to see those red words under his screenname... license revoked.

i know, ive been waiting about a week and some days to see those red words under his screenname... license revoked.
+1

I don't think we were the only ones.

A little :confused? well, here's a vid and dyno result;)

mazdaspeed 3 dyno (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rberk07Lozs)



That is a lot of engine movement, damn glad I make more power :alright

Sorry for the thread resurrection but I don't get on here too often. I have both cars in question and just so happened to dyno both of them last weekend. With the Conforti intake/Euro HFM/chip kit, my 95 M3 put down 220 hp / 210 tq. On the same dyno, our bone stock MS3 put down 259 hp / 290 tq. Eventually I will run them head to head (with a friend driving one of them of course) but judging by how they accelerate, the M3 would take the MS3 to 60 but once the MS3 gets into 3rd, it will walk away. It also pulls harder in 4th and 5th than the M3. The MS3 is a difficult car to accelerate fast in 1st and 2nd gear, even with the factory 58% in 1st and 90% in 2nd power reduction. The car runs VERY rich and power drops off at 6k rpm. It has its quirks but the MS3 is an amazing car for just $22k (sport pkg).

I dont get it. Stock they have 190kw (250hp) and 380nm (NFI what that is in american spec), but how does your car put down more power at the wheels than its making at the engine? Must be a misunderstanding here.

My friend has a Mazda 3 MPS, they are quick little bastards which average 14 flat 1/4mile times. Around a track the arent as good, but I put that down to it being FWD. If they were AWD they'd kill a WRX. Still for the price, best bang for buck!

I dont get it. Stock they have 190kw (250hp) and 380nm (NFI what that is in american spec), but how does your car put down more power at the wheels than its making at the engine? Must be a misunderstanding here.

I don't know, I was surprised too. The test was done on a DynoJet. The first two pulls were done back to back. The first pull was 229/299, second was 231/282. After 15 minutes, the third pull resulted in 259/290. All pulls were done with the hood closed with a large fan in front of the car. It is strange that the hp jumped considerably on the 3rd pull and I'm not sure what to think of it. The hp during the first two pulls sound more accurate according to manufacturer's claim but the torque is still way more than the claimed 280 crank hp. Maybe this is why there have been cases of broken front motor mounts on these cars. :D If you'd like, I can send you the dyno sheet (or post it here if that's allowed).

259 hp / 290 tq? Damn, that's nice, too bad it's FWD.

Yeah FWD is the suck part about it but it handles exceptionally well for the drive wheels being on the wrong end.